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Post by obbie1984 on May 6, 2021 22:48:36 GMT
EDI and Legion are two of the weakest characters into ME3. Legion in particular was bad. I also recall him being kind of manipulative. Him learning to be a real person just before his death was corny as hell. I'd have preferred if he acted like a logical machine. I didn't mind Legion, but yeah; by the time you can get him, it's so late game that it's almost like, "What's the point?". I liked the concept of EDI, but her as a combatant left quite a bit to be desired. Miranda's sister arc in ME3 was repetitive and boring. I don't care about Orianna. She is a bit better if romanced. That's another thing that confused me - why are they devoting such a decent portion of the game to a plot that was 1) already done in ME2 and 2) for someone who's not even a squadmate in ME3? Hale's acting is decent but really over-rated by some of her screeching fanboys/girls. Just like Meer she has instances where she sounds really bad or bored. Their constant need to put down Meer is also getting old. I've said this also earlier - Hale I think did better in ME2, but yeah...it wasn't as good in ME1 or ME3 compared to Meer's. And I agree - the constant need to put down Meer (or even MaleShep for that matter) is really tiresome. That's the problem with Legion in both games. We get him so late. He was pretty interesting in ME2 for what little time we had him. I like the possible outcomes there are and how his dialogue reflects that. But other than that, he was lousy to me in ME3. It would be nice if Bioware let us get him earlier in ME2 in MELE. But nope, I guess we can't have any new stuff in that game. But they sure as hell can remove stuff with no issues. I don't know why Bioware thought we should care about Orianna. Why do I care about Miranda's sister who is constantly getting in trouble and worrying Miranda. Do they think that we care because she is attached to someone we might actually care about? Well I don't. Orianna is a terrible plot device to drive Miranda's story in ME3. Its like they didn't know what else to do for Miranda so they just repeated her loyalty mission but for the entire game. It effects Miranda as a character. Like we get it, you love your sister. Can we know something else about you? Lol, I actually think her voice acting is at its worst in ME2. She drones on like a robot in many scenes. I also think her tough guy renegade act is not very good most of the time. She sounds like a chain smoker rather than an intimidating presence.
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Post by obbie1984 on May 6, 2021 23:03:57 GMT
I also have a few non gameplay ones: Garrus is ok at best. The fanbase loves him but I think he is a boring yes man that loves you no matter what you do. His arc from ME1 where it looked like you could kinda mold him amounted to nothing and he is forced as your best friend. Mordin's death is not that sad and felt like it was done to have a tear jerking moment. He seemed like he had time to attempt to escape but just lets himself die. His expertise could have been used further. EDI and Legion are two of the weakest characters into ME3. Legion in particular was bad. I also recall him being kind of manipulative. Him learning to be a real person just before his death was corny as hell. I'd have preferred if he acted like a logical machine. Miranda's sister arc in ME3 was repetitive and boring. I don't care about Orianna. She is a bit better if romanced. Hale's acting is decent but really over-rated by some of her screeching fanboys/girls. Just like Meer she has instances where she sounds really bad or bored. Their constant need to put down Meer is also getting old. Amazing. I'm with you on all those points. Garrus is cool and all, but I never found myself wanting to take him much on missions. He would usually just state the obvious about things/situations. I felt like I needed to take him on missions though because the game and fans made me feel like I had to, "He's your bro, bro!" Mordin was incredibly helpful and convenient, but I rarely ever took him on missions. He fit the role of the ship's scientist and I was happy to leave it at that. His death was a little sad, but hardly caused distress. If he had to die, I would've preferred him dying on Earth taking a shot for Shepard or something because Earth felt too safe/easy since no one dies. Legion is a computer. I don't care about its input and I never understood why fans love him so much. EDI is at least interesting and has something that amounts to personality. I still didn't take her on missions- she was better left taking care of the Normandy. Her squadmate status should've been given back to Miranda. Indeed. There are many types of ME fans, but Hale's fans are the ugliest and worst I've seen. They will literally shame you for even thinking about playing broShep, and will especially launch a personal vendetta against you if you mention you played Sheploo even once. So bizarre and they nearly ruined the series for me back in 2012. FemShep never bothered me, but now whenever I see femShep being used in ads, I get a bad taste in my mouth knowing she is there just to appease Hale's tiny, but rabid fanbase. F emShep players are like vegetarians and stick shift drivers. Nobody cares you do those things, but they always have to announce it and associate their identity with it. So dumb. I'm going to be super edgy and say I don't even think Garrus is that cool. He's kinda just boring. Lines that Garrus and his fans like to repeat (just like old times and calibrations), aren't funny. I will say in ME3, he breaks the game if you have a certain DLC weapon so there is a point to take him. But I always felt Wrex and Kaidan are better "bros." They seem like they can think for themselves, can still admire you, but still have their own characterizations. Though I still dislike how Wrex will pull a gun on you in ME1 even if you helped him and remain calm. Agreed with Hale fans. Its fine if you have a preference, but the constant need to put down Meer and male Shepard is silly. I've heard some people even say "only insecure idiots who can't handle a woman saving the galaxy can prefer male Shepard" or "Meer doesn't deliver a single line better than female Shepard." I generally don't see this same animosity from people who prefer male Shepard. It reminds me a lot of Assassin's Creed Odyssey where people who prefer the female character constantly put down the male and his voice acting. I think even Hale can get a little annoying with this. I remember an interview around when ME3 was coming out where she replaces Male Shepard's face with female Shepard. And her crying because female Shepard finally gets an official character model in MELE felt like a bit much to me. I also found it weird when I was watching an IGN video for MELE and they showed a lot more femshep and the speaker even said the "iconic female Shepard." I'm sorry, but isn't it Sheploo that's the face of this series? Also, I'm a vegetarian and I'm better than all of you.
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Vegetarians are people who don't have the courage to go full vegan, and are racist against eggs.
edit: yes this was my attempt at this alien thing called humor. I'll see myself out.
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Automatic isn't as prevalent here, yet. Although the EU is trying to change that. I've never made a fuss for driving stick. Honest! I'm also on keto. Ah. I forget most of the world is still stick even in 2021. In my part of the USA, stick isn't as common so those who do drive stick like to brag about it as if they're keeping some lost art alive. Even when I've traveled abroad to Israel, Mexico or Australia, my rental cars have been automatic. Honestly, the few times I've been in a stick car, I'm terrified how it always stops for a hot sec in the intersections as you switch gears before continuing on with some wheezes. Hills are even more terrifying lmao. Learn 2 shift
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Post by helios969 on May 7, 2021 8:09:21 GMT
Vegans Choose synthesis. Authoritarians Control. Libertarians Destroy. Vegetarians are people who don't have the courage to go full vegan, and are racist against eggs. edit: yes this was my attemp at this alien thing called humor. I'll see myself out.Is Vegan a polite way of saying fascist?
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Post by michaeln7 on May 7, 2021 18:23:23 GMT
Vegans Choose synthesis. Authoritarians Control. Libertarians Destroy. Vegetarians are people who don't have the courage to go full vegan, and are racist against eggs. edit: yes this was my attemp at this alien thing called humor. I'll see myself out.Is Vegan a polite way of saying fascist? Actually, it would appear that fascists choose the left option, anarchists choose the right option, and centrists choose the center option.
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Vegans Choose synthesis. Authoritarians Control. Libertarians Destroy. Vegetarians are people who don't have the courage to go full vegan, and are racist against eggs. edit: yes this was my attempt at this alien thing called humor. I'll see myself out.Libertarians are too stupid arguing about pot laws to get anything done.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on May 8, 2021 7:20:55 GMT
The sounds in me3mp are way overdone, also the screen shaking and overlays. Guns feel like every shot is a tank shell and rise up towards the ceiling immeadiately. Characters feel like they all have leadsuits on, even the 'fast' characters like .. cant even remember that woman who goes through the walls - they are slow and their evade animations take wayyy too long time to execute plus they all have those annoying stop-start delays. Glad they did a better game and learnt about the mistakes. Having powerful weapons is a bad thing?.... In my 23 hours what I endured the alpha test of multiplayer game, I never got drell or such. I also found zero powerful weapons. Guns were weak pewpews like in MEAMP in the beginning, but what I heard even ultra rares need a lot of leveling before they get near useable level. Slower campier? So you are describing me3mp then... hahah. Almost nobody except noobs camp in MEAMP, unlike everybody was camping in that... previous test of a mp game. Oh I remember some 'veterans' cursing here "everybody is running around why?" because THEY were camping and losing their oh so precious score points. I think most of these 'veterans' have problems with totally 3D movement games or something like that... Thankfully they toned town everything that was way too brash in that ... 'multiplayer' game. Constant heavy booms made me as professional mixer grind my teeth and edit the sound settings. I did not found a good balancing. Now the good part: Vanguards float on off-hosting, slow melees taking way too much time, melee useable mostly on krogan only, those freaking overlays, some kits cant even dodge wtf! Totally broken OP weapons what I hear about reegar lol. Bugs galore. Dumb passive trees, slow movement kits, stuffy maps, heavily imbalanced kits, no jump or jump melee, useless turrets.. I mean coming from games like UT2003 the .. that me3 alpha test game was soooo bad. I was super disapointed because I first thought they would make it better and faster than SP was. It is the best combat of the trilogy, but holds nothing on MEA combat, this is clear. Also the hype from 'veterans' like some people here, didnt really work out at all in favour of the game in the end. If you cannot properly move in the game, its very bad and in multiplayer game one must move properly. This game didnt mark that field at all, especially if you are near any other object. Game was worse in almost EVERY possible way, except I give it two: Map hazards (which are BUGGED too - you'll die suddenly and nothing was there etc.) and amount of enemy kits. I played it enough to make my own judgement, and it seemed to make the 'veterans' mad back in the day, like now. I laughed. I laugh now. I've played enough games during my ~50 years of gaming, and I also work in the industry (testing the games, their gameplay). Bugtickets avalanche... This isnt a case of git gud, its a case of game being not good enough for me to play it anymore. (also I think the game is dead, I could not find any lobbies the 2 last times I was about to make my self nauseous with the movement and screenshake ) I still sometimes endure me3sp but it reminds me too much of the bad things what me3mp showed me, especially after playing MEAMP Someone may still like it, more power to them. I deemed it a failure in mp gaming.
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Post by michaeln7 on May 8, 2021 8:32:49 GMT
Some posts have been removed. No politics. It isn’t new. And neither are any of you. Glad to see I'm not alone. This is why we love you guys. I was seeing how spicy it could get.
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Post by vonuber on May 8, 2021 8:33:28 GMT
People who drive manual are automatically superior beings.
God knows how you'd all cope riding a motorbike.
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Post by michaeln7 on May 8, 2021 8:39:44 GMT
The beef about there not being enough long-hair options has no foundation. You're an N7, a military unit. Long hair is absolutely terrible for military operations.
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Post by michaeln7 on May 8, 2021 9:15:10 GMT
Okay, here's another one.
Liam is a great squadmate and he's got some of the best character development in Andromeda. I love how his idealism isn't jaded, merely tempered into consideration over methods used and results achieved.
Though, to be fair, his tiff with Vetra always seems out of left-field with me.
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Post by michaeln7 on May 8, 2021 9:46:17 GMT
Okay, ONE MORE-one more from the milque-toast-fence-sitter.
I'm sure I've touched on this before, so forgive the potential repetition...
I think the ending to the trilogy was pretty good, and the Extended Cut made it even better.
It allows for headcanon to fill in the blanks better than the writers could, talent notwithstanding.
I like the Indoctrination Theory, but it would have created so many copyright issues if they had tried it after the fact.
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Post by SirSourpuss on May 8, 2021 9:52:08 GMT
I like the Indoctrination Theory, but it would have created so many copyright issues if they had tried it after the fact. They wouldn't have to confirm anything with Indoctrination Theory. They'd just have to go "maybe?" and post some emojis along with it on twitter and there it is. Even if it wasn't originally the plan, they could have internally agreed upon it in the meantime and pretended it was the plan all along. It's not like anyone would have known any better.
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Post by michaeln7 on May 8, 2021 9:55:46 GMT
I like the Indoctrination Theory, but it would have created so many copyright issues if they had tried it after the fact. They wouldn't have to confirm anything with Indoctrination Theory. They'd just have to go "maybe?" and post some emojis along with it on twitter and there it is. Even if it wasn't originally the plan, they could have internally agreed upon it in the meantime and pretended it was the plan all along. It's not like anyone would have known any better. True, but given how fickle and finicky social media can be, there's no telling what would really happen. Sometimes you just have to sit back and watch, or do some controlled burning to prevent disaster.
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Okay, ONE MORE-one more from the milque-toast-fence-sitter. I'm sure I've touched on this before, so forgive the potential repetition... I think the ending to the trilogy was pretty good, and the Extended Cut made it even better. It allows for headcanon to fill in the blanks better than the writers could, talent notwithstanding. I like the Indoctrination Theory, but it would have created so many copyright issues if they had tried it after the fact. How DARE you Love something I hate?!?!11 *proceeds to waste 20 hours writing an essay on why the endings are the worst thing since Ebola, give up because "it's not important", cry myself to sleep. Dreams of ME3 being two games, dark energy and cupcakes.
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Post by SirSourpuss on May 8, 2021 9:58:58 GMT
They wouldn't have to confirm anything with Indoctrination Theory. They'd just have to go "maybe?" and post some emojis along with it on twitter and there it is. Even if it wasn't originally the plan, they could have internally agreed upon it in the meantime and pretended it was the plan all along. It's not like anyone would have known any better. True, but given how fickle and finicky social media can be, there's no telling what would really happen. Sometimes you just have to sit back and watch, or do some controlled burning to prevent disaster. I don't think what they did with the ending, either Bioware themselves or the gaming media attacking the fans, was "controlled burning", nor that it "prevented disaster". Rather it stocked the flames as high as they possibly could. It really rubbed a lot of people the wrong way.
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Post by The Elder King on May 8, 2021 11:58:19 GMT
The beef about there not being enough long-hair options has no foundation. You're an N7, a military unit. Long hair is absolutely terrible for military operations. That would work overall for ME. In ME2/ME3, you’re a Spectre, and I guess since you can dress and talk to high ranking members of both human and alien organizations with a leather jacket and jeans, I think you could also have long hairs. Not to mention that this whole military unit thing doesn’t seem to apply to Ashley. Another point is that it’s not just long hair options that are lacking, but options overall.
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Post by Son of Dorn on May 8, 2021 12:04:13 GMT
Okay, ONE MORE-one more from the milque-toast-fence-sitter. I'm sure I've touched on this before, so forgive the potential repetition... I think the ending to the trilogy was pretty good, and the Extended Cut made it even better. It allows for headcanon to fill in the blanks better than the writers could, talent notwithstanding. I like the Indoctrination Theory, but it would have created so many copyright issues if they had tried it after the fact. How DARE you Love something I hate?!?!11 *proceeds to waste 20 hours writing an essay on why the endings are the worst thing since Ebola, give up because "it's not important", cry myself to sleep. Dreams of ME3 being two games, dark energy and cupcakes. *Sneaks in and replaces essay with cat videos* 😈
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Post by jrpN7 on May 8, 2021 13:25:40 GMT
People who drive manual are automatically superior beings. God knows how you'd all cope riding a motorbike. You do know that automatic motorbikes are a thing, yeah?
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People who drive manual are automatically superior beings. God knows how you'd all cope riding a motorbike. Please, call me when you drive an ambulance priority 1 lights and sirens. lol motorbikes have nothing on that.
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Post by smilesja on May 8, 2021 14:01:50 GMT
Okay, ONE MORE-one more from the milque-toast-fence-sitter. I'm sure I've touched on this before, so forgive the potential repetition... I think the ending to the trilogy was pretty good, and the Extended Cut made it even better. It allows for headcanon to fill in the blanks better than the writers could, talent notwithstanding. I like the Indoctrination Theory, but it would have created so many copyright issues if they had tried it after the fact. How DARE you Love something I hate?!?!11 *proceeds to waste 20 hours writing an essay on why the endings are the worst thing since Ebola, give up because "it's not important", cry myself to sleep. Dreams of ME3 being two games, dark energy and cupcakes. Just say you like Andromeda here and there'll be rants about how wrong you are. XD
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Post by mikaelnovasun on May 8, 2021 14:29:02 GMT
I don't know if you replayed ME's EC ending with no mods lately, but I did after forgetting to install an ending mod. Star kid is a giant turd. The stupid thing admits to being a reaper, and refers to the itself and the reapers as WE. And it flat out tells Shepard destroy is the wrong choice, and Shepard response is "Yea that sounds bad lets pick something else". The ending, even with EC, removes player agency in the dialogue and that is why IT was so popular, well that and AI somehow knows to use the image of the kid from Shepard's dreams. Now granted, I head canon the ending as Shepard fighting off the indoctrination and goes with destroy. It makes me scratch my head why people pick Synthesis or Control, it is what the stupid reaper AI wants you to pick, but to each there own head canon I guess.
Sorry, two days ago I beat ME3 after a reinstall and forgot an ending MOD. It brought back all my hatred for Star Kid. And has me leaning towards playing LE ME1&2, and playing a modded ME3.
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Post by mtheillusive on May 8, 2021 15:59:35 GMT
It makes me scratch my head why people pick Synthesis or Control, it is what the stupid reaper AI wants you to pick, but to each there own head canon I guess. Ummmm....maybe because that's the story that they (the player) wanted to tell?.... To you its a bad choice...well not every story has a happy ending...so that could have been the desire for the player (pre extended cut). Post extended cut, they either become a Godlike being or change the universe...literally . Once again, it all depends on the story the player wants to tell. Personally, while I never pick it for a canon ending myself, I thought the refuse ending (either with the speech or with the gun) was the most well done of the 4.
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