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Post by Guardian on Apr 30, 2021 0:38:33 GMT
That was basically Liara though in ME 1... I don’t remember getting stalker vibes from her in ME1. But it has been a few years since I actually paid attention to her dialog in that game, guess I will see when LE drops in a couple of weeks.
I was; ME 1 she was MAJOR stalker vibes in ME 1. It's why I felt in ME 2 and 3 she was MUCH, MUCH better. Didn't get those vibes at all in ME 2 or 3; to me, she grew up and realized she was being way too stalker-ish when she first met Shep.
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Post by Guardian on Apr 30, 2021 0:40:54 GMT
And as we're talking about spicy takes.... * puts on flame shield* ....Miranda is nothing special - either in looks, personality or abilities. I just look at her and...well....I don't get the attraction or appeal of her. Chambers I see as being better than Miranda. ...I know this is hot takes about the trilogy, but while I don't get the appeal for Vetra either, VETRA I think is better than Miranda, and if someone said I had to romance one of the two, always taking Vetra. Agreed, especially on the First Lady being better than Miranda. Better in every way, shape, and form.
Another spicy take is that most the females are better than Miranda. I could only argue for maybe being tied with Peebee, but...that's kinda it. I mean, I like Miranda, but I don't get the mass appeal/following she seems to have.
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Post by mikaelnovasun on Apr 30, 2021 0:49:49 GMT
Agreed, especially on the First Lady being better than Miranda. Better in every way, shape, and form.
Another spicy take is that most the females are better than Miranda. I could only argue for maybe being tied with Peebee, but...that's kinda it. I mean, I like Miranda, but I don't get the mass appeal/following she seems to have.
Yvonne Strahovski and the popularity of the Chuck tv series around the time of ME2. When Sarah Walker(Yvonne) came out of the water in a white bikini pushing her hair back as water flowed off her body....yea Yvonne's romance is a good one...sorry...Miranda, Miranda's romance.
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Post by Guardian on Apr 30, 2021 0:54:18 GMT
Another spicy take is that most the females are better than Miranda. I could only argue for maybe being tied with Peebee, but...that's kinda it. I mean, I like Miranda, but I don't get the mass appeal/following she seems to have.
Yvonne Strahovski and the popularity of the Chuck tv series around the time of ME2. When Sarah Walker came out of the water in a white bikini pushing her hair back as water flowed off her body....yea Yvonne's romance is a good one...sorry Miranda, Miranda's romance.
No, I get Yvonne; I remember her work on Chuck. Just....the character was "meh" to me and honestly, if she wasn't shoved down our throats by the terrorists Cerberus, I probably would have forgotten all about her, really. For as much as people complain about Liara, to me, Miranda is on the same level of being a Mary Sue. She might not be Mac's pet favorite, but she sure felt like someone's in ME 2 and 3.
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Miranda is the only acceptable romance for Shep. He is an exceptional human being and Miranda is the only female in his league.
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Post by colfoley on Apr 30, 2021 0:56:27 GMT
Miranda is the only acceptable romance for Shep. He is an exceptional human being and Miranda is the only female in his league. Or her as the case may be. 
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Post by 10k on Apr 30, 2021 0:57:54 GMT
Another spicy take is that most the females are better than Miranda. I could only argue for maybe being tied with Peebee, but...that's kinda it. I mean, I like Miranda, but I don't get the mass appeal/following she seems to have.
Okay, I have to disagree with you here. I'm definitely not a Miranda follower. But I just don't think Liara, Peebee, Cora, or the female Garrus is more interesting than Miranda. Miranda arc is very interesting. Starts out as a extreme Cerberus loyalist, but slowly sees the flaws in the Illusive man thinking. In which she becomes conflicted. I mean she still is very vanilla, but tons more interesting than those 4.
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Post by 10k on Apr 30, 2021 0:58:53 GMT
Miranda is the only acceptable romance for Shep. He is an exceptional human being and Miranda is the only female in his league. Ha, no. It's Jack and will always be Jack.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2021 1:03:25 GMT
Miranda is the only acceptable romance for Shep. He is an exceptional human being and Miranda is the only female in his league. Ha, no. It's Jack and will always be Jack. Nope, fucking Jack is a pitty fuck from Shep. She is no where in his league. She was a crazed inmate that would still be in jail if it wasnt for Shep. Liara was an archaeologist that had to be told about the reapers from shep. and only became shadow broker because of sheps actions. Tali was just a teenager on her pilgrimage that became admiral depending on sheps actions. ashley was just a solider and only became a spectre because of serving under shep. Miranda and Shep are equals.
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Post by mikaelnovasun on Apr 30, 2021 1:08:13 GMT
Miranda is the only acceptable romance for Shep. He is an exceptional human being and Miranda is the only female in his league. I felt that way then ME3 rolled around, and went back to Ash. Not that she got a lot of screen time either. I tried the Miranda MOD last month which made me realize how much I missed her, she would likely be my canon romance if Bioware actually followed the Mods idea of her joining up after Horizon. I do like the head canon that the reason Ash is drunk is because she heard Shepard and Miranda had met privately at the citadel apartment. And part of the reason she goes so hard at Shepard about Cerberus is because she knows about Miranda. I see Ash as having trouble dealing with her jealously and she doesn't want to admit to herself that she may have screwed up on Horizon. Which could also explain her drinking then throwing herself at James in the citadel dlc while Shepard and Miranda are flirting in front of her. Time for a new play through with that head canon...
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Post by 10k on Apr 30, 2021 1:10:02 GMT
Ha, no. It's Jack and will always be Jack. Nope, fucking Jack is a pitty fuck from Shep. She is no where in his league. She was a crazed inmate that would still be in jail if it wasnt for Shep. Liara was an archaeologist that had to be told about the reapers from shep. and only became shadow broker because of sheps actions. Tali was just a teenager on her pilgrimage that became admiral depending on sheps actions. ashley was just a solider and only became a spectre because of serving under shep. Miranda and Shep are equals. Please. I like Miranda, I do. But the fact is she is a stuck up, self-righteous ass. Jack is the most powerful human biotic ever. If it wasn't for Shep, Miranda would been smeared on Normandy's walls. The fact is Miranda isn't even in Jack's league. Therefore she isn't in Shep's league.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2021 1:13:46 GMT
Nope, fucking Jack is a pitty fuck from Shep. She is no where in his league. She was a crazed inmate that would still be in jail if it wasnt for Shep. Liara was an archaeologist that had to be told about the reapers from shep. and only became shadow broker because of sheps actions. Tali was just a teenager on her pilgrimage that became admiral depending on sheps actions. ashley was just a solider and only became a spectre because of serving under shep. Miranda and Shep are equals. Please. I like Miranda, I do. But the fact is she is a stuck up, self-righteous ass. Jack is the most powerful human biotic ever. If it wasn't for Shep, Miranda would been smeared on Normandy's walls. The fact is Miranda isn't even in Jack's league. Therefore she isn't in Shep's league. Miranda, all on her own, was head of Lazarus project, the only known project that could bring a human being back to life. She is smarter than most humans and was designed to be perfect. Jack was a space pirate. take a seat.
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Post by Radec on Apr 30, 2021 1:18:27 GMT
Every romance is cringe anyway. Amusing to see the argument over them.
They all involve fraternization (regulation or otherwise, everyone on the ship takes your orders), and every Shepard who engages in them is a scumbag shitty Commander for obvious reasons.
Theres the additional health/readiness risks in the case of the xenos ones as well. Be pretty funny if you bang Tali and then she gets sick, isnt performing at 100% the next day and someone dies on the vent section as a result.
Ironically, Chobot is probably the least ethically compromising one, which is funny given the character only exists because of shitty ethics in gaming "journalism".
EDIT: Javik romance is the only exception and the true canon.
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Post by 10k on Apr 30, 2021 1:25:47 GMT
Please. I like Miranda, I do. But the fact is she is a stuck up, self-righteous ass. Jack is the most powerful human biotic ever. If it wasn't for Shep, Miranda would been smeared on Normandy's walls. The fact is Miranda isn't even in Jack's league. Therefore she isn't in Shep's league. Miranda, all on her own, was head of Lazarus project, the only known project that could bring a human being back to life. She is smarter than most humans and was designed to be perfect. Jack was a space pirate. take a seat. LOL No, the Illusive man and his team of scientist brought Shep back. Miranda was there first and foremost to keep tabs on Shep. She's not a super genius, and sure she was designed to be perfect, but as her arc mentioned, she's not. Her dad was just an ego-maniac obsessed with himself that he wanted to essentially create a female version of himself. There is nothing special about here. Also that space pirate could kill Miranda in a blink with her mind.
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Post by mikaelnovasun on Apr 30, 2021 1:26:23 GMT
Every romance is cringe anyway. Amusing to see the argument over them. They all involve fraternization (regulation or otherwise, everyone on the ship takes your orders), and every Shepard who engages in them is a scumbag shitty Commander for obvious reasons. Theres the additional health/readiness risks in the case of the xenos ones as well. Be pretty funny if you bang Tali and then she gets sick, isnt performing at 100% the next day and someone dies on the vent section as a result. Ironically, Chobot is probably the least ethically compromising one, which is funny given the character only exists because of shitty ethics in gaming "journalism". EDIT: Javik romance is the only exception and the true canon. Speaking of journalism and Javik, there were moments where I wanted a renegade interrupt to punch him in the face.
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Miranda, all on her own, was head of Lazarus project, the only known project that could bring a human being back to life. She is smarter than most humans and was designed to be perfect. Jack was a space pirate. take a seat. LOL No, the Illusive man and his team of scientist brought Shep back. Miranda was there first and foremost to keep tabs on Shep. She's not a super genius, and sure she was designed to be perfect, but as her arc mentioned, she's not. Her dad was just an ego-maniac obsessed with himself that he wanted to essentially create a female version of himself. There is nothing special about here. Also that space pirate could kill Miranda in a blink with her mind. Yeah who was the head scientist? Oh yeah Miranda. She was the one in charge. All TIM did was flip the bill.
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Post by 10k on Apr 30, 2021 1:29:23 GMT
Every romance is cringe anyway. Amusing to see the argument over them. They all involve fraternization (regulation or otherwise, everyone on the ship takes your orders), and every Shepard who engages in them is a scumbag shitty Commander for obvious reasons. Theres the additional health/readiness risks in the case of the xenos ones as well. Be pretty funny if you bang Tali and then she gets sick, isnt performing at 100% the next day and someone dies on the vent section as a result. Ironically, Chobot is probably the least ethically compromising one, which is funny given the character only exists because of shitty ethics in gaming "journalism". EDIT: Javik romance is the only exception and the true canon. That's alright. The Alliance can screw themselves with their regulation. I prefer Cerberus.
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Post by 10k on Apr 30, 2021 1:33:33 GMT
LOL No, the Illusive man and his team of scientist brought Shep back. Miranda was there first and foremost to keep tabs on Shep. She's not a super genius, and sure she was designed to be perfect, but as her arc mentioned, she's not. Her dad was just an ego-maniac obsessed with himself that he wanted to essentially create a female version of himself. There is nothing special about here. Also that space pirate could kill Miranda in a blink with her mind. Yeah who was the head scientist? Oh yeah Miranda. She was the one in charge. All TIM did was flip the bill. She's still not in Shep's league. She isn't powerful enough. She's a weakling.
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Post by Radec on Apr 30, 2021 1:35:38 GMT
Every romance is cringe anyway. Amusing to see the argument over them. They all involve fraternization (regulation or otherwise, everyone on the ship takes your orders), and every Shepard who engages in them is a scumbag shitty Commander for obvious reasons. Theres the additional health/readiness risks in the case of the xenos ones as well. Be pretty funny if you bang Tali and then she gets sick, isnt performing at 100% the next day and someone dies on the vent section as a result. Ironically, Chobot is probably the least ethically compromising one, which is funny given the character only exists because of shitty ethics in gaming "journalism". EDIT: Javik romance is the only exception and the true canon. Speaking of journalism and Javik, there were moments where I wanted a renegade interrupt to punch him in the face. Why would a Renegade get an interrupt to punch Javik? He's the ultimate personification of the Renegade thug life. Should be best buds. Maybe a Renegade high five when he trolls the asari or throws the machine out the airlock. Paragon might want to punch him but is too much of a bitchmade pansy to try it. Only punches down on weak scientists. |
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Post by mikaelnovasun on Apr 30, 2021 1:42:03 GMT
I only did this once and it almost broke me, romancing Miranda and having her die on Horizon. Most heart wrenching moment in the entire series bar none. Tali's got nothing on that...suicide....bah get your balls out of your purse and man up girl.
Ok ok...yea that one almost got me too. Death to the Geth!
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Post by Radec on Apr 30, 2021 1:43:07 GMT
Every romance is cringe anyway. Amusing to see the argument over them. They all involve fraternization (regulation or otherwise, everyone on the ship takes your orders), and every Shepard who engages in them is a scumbag shitty Commander for obvious reasons. Theres the additional health/readiness risks in the case of the xenos ones as well. Be pretty funny if you bang Tali and then she gets sick, isnt performing at 100% the next day and someone dies on the vent section as a result. Ironically, Chobot is probably the least ethically compromising one, which is funny given the character only exists because of shitty ethics in gaming "journalism". EDIT: Javik romance is the only exception and the true canon. That's alright. The Alliance can screw themselves with their regulation. I prefer Cerberus. Regulation is a problem, but isnt even really the point. Military, business, politics, pretty much everywhere, parlaying your superior position to screw subordinates is never a good idea if you actually want to be percieved as a good leader. But if you wanna play your Shep as space Bill Clinton, go off. |
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Post by Guardian on Apr 30, 2021 2:01:38 GMT
Another spicy take is that most the females are better than Miranda. I could only argue for maybe being tied with Peebee, but...that's kinda it. I mean, I like Miranda, but I don't get the mass appeal/following she seems to have.
Okay, I have to disagree with you here. I'm definitely not a Miranda follower. But I just don't think Liara, Peebee, Cora, or the female Garrus is more interesting than Miranda. Miranda arc is very interesting. Starts out as a extreme Cerberus loyalist, but slowly sees the flaws in the Illusive man thinking. In which she becomes conflicted. I mean she still is very vanilla, but tons more interesting than those 4.
You are welcome to disagree; that's perfectly fine. I however stand by what I said. I just really found Miranda about as interesting as Kaiden.
And I never said Miranda was less interesting than Peebee...I said I could argue Peebee being as interesting as Miranda...which wasn't much in my opinion.
But, to each their own. That's why this is my "spicy" take
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That's alright. The Alliance can screw themselves with their regulation. I prefer Cerberus. Regulation is a problem, but isnt even really the point. Military, business, politics, pretty much everywhere, parlaying your superior position to screw subordinates is never a good idea if you actually want to be percieved as a good leader. But if you wanna play your Shep as space Bill Clinton, go off. If shep is a democrat the media will cover for him
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Okay, I have to disagree with you here. I'm definitely not a Miranda follower. But I just don't think Liara, Peebee, Cora, or the female Garrus is more interesting than Miranda. Miranda arc is very interesting. Starts out as a extreme Cerberus loyalist, but slowly sees the flaws in the Illusive man thinking. In which she becomes conflicted. I mean she still is very vanilla, but tons more interesting than those 4. You are welcome to disagree; that's perfectly fine. I however stand by what I said. I just really found Miranda about as interesting as Kaiden. And I never said Miranda was less interesting than Peebee...I said I could argue Peebee being as interesting as Miranda...which wasn't much in my opinion. But, to each their own. That's why this is my "spicy" take
I said spicy, not wrong. Yeah who was the head scientist? Oh yeah Miranda. She was the one in charge. All TIM did was flip the bill. She's still not in Shep's league. She isn't powerful enough. She's a weakling. Ran out of arguments I see....
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