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Post by 10k on Apr 30, 2021 3:05:31 GMT
You are welcome to disagree; that's perfectly fine. I however stand by what I said. I just really found Miranda about as interesting as Kaiden. And I never said Miranda was less interesting than Peebee...I said I could argue Peebee being as interesting as Miranda...which wasn't much in my opinion. But, to each their own. That's why this is my "spicy" take
I said spicy, not wrong. She's still not in Shep's league. She isn't powerful enough. She's a weakling. Ran out of arguments I see.... lol, sure did.
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Post by Radec on Apr 30, 2021 3:39:14 GMT
Regulation is a problem, but isnt even really the point. Military, business, politics, pretty much everywhere, parlaying your superior position to screw subordinates is never a good idea if you actually want to be percieved as a good leader. But if you wanna play your Shep as space Bill Clinton, go off. If shep is a democrat the media will cover for him Another reason to bang the reporter on the side. Might wanna put a bag on her bloated ass face first tho.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Apr 30, 2021 3:58:12 GMT
Oh goodie, real life politics is entering this.
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Post by ahglock on Apr 30, 2021 5:15:47 GMT
I wouldn't call her a stalker after ME1, per se....but if the reaction is anything like what can happen on Virmire from Ash (shooting Wrex potentially), it'd probably make me reconsider NOT leaving her with the bomb... which kinda makes me think of another spicy take. Zaeed and Jack are the two best human companions (personality and powers). The rest are subpar. I also liked how Jack looked more in ME 3 than in ME 2 and felt the change was a vast, much needed improvement for her. It’s the armor in the trophy case that pushes her into stalker territory. I don’t know who on the writing staff thought that was a good idea, because it just comes across as creepy and obsessive even if romanced. Thats not weird or stalker like at all. I have multiple mementos of people I cared for that died. Lots and lots of people do. It is far more normal than recoiling from it.
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Post by The Elder King on Apr 30, 2021 5:32:58 GMT
My ‘spicy’ take: I must say that I didn’t miss the debates on the ‘best’ romances/LI in the franchise. Debating is fine an all, but the heat the discussions reach sometimes, as well as certain arguments used to demonstrate who is the better one, are baffling. Expecially considering how subjective this topic is.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Apr 30, 2021 6:10:55 GMT
Well, I don't care about the banging part. lol, I don't think humans and aliens should ever get that far in a relationship. But I do like that he left C-sec and became a mercenary. The whole Omega underground plot was interesting to me. I even wanted a ME game where the player is a mercenary. But alas, we got Andromeda instead. That’s right. I forgot you think they aren’t even people but just animals. So we got a much better game. Well... He IS a bird so...
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 30, 2021 6:47:45 GMT
See, I disagree with that. ME1 Garrus was better. ME2 Garrus just redid his arc from the first game, and now ladies can bang him. Well, I don't care about the banging part. lol, I don't think humans and aliens should ever get that far in a relationship. But I do like that he left C-sec and became a mercenary. The whole Omega underground plot was interesting to me. I even wanted a ME game where the player is a mercenary. But alas, we got Andromeda instead. I would love to be a mercenary in the MEU, but not the glorified goons with themed armor that we call mercenaries in Mass Effect, just unaffiliated soldiers of fortune that get driven into some big hero narrative somehow. All of those nagging questions of ethics in terms of who your character is with and the jobs they take fly out the window, plus it would be nice to not have the game have its lousy interpretation of politicians as people you constantly have to answer to.
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Post by michaeln7 on Apr 30, 2021 7:22:09 GMT
Regulation is a problem, but isnt even really the point. Military, business, politics, pretty much everywhere, parlaying your superior position to screw subordinates is never a good idea if you actually want to be percieved as a good leader. But if you wanna play your Shep as space Bill Clinton, go off. If shep is a democrat the media will cover for him Cerberus was only peacefully protesting. It's only an idea anyway.
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Post by Garo on Apr 30, 2021 8:09:54 GMT
Fans of Tali and Garrus made me view these characters as progressively more annoying as years went by.
Wrex works as Sheps best bro way better than Garrus. Garrus is too dependent on Sheps approval.
Actually, in my humble opinion the best characters are the ones that can tie their shoelaces without Shepard's help because they are just more interesting to me (Ashley comes to mind).
I like Brooks.
ME1 biotics are the best.
Fans went overboard with ME3 endings, they were stupid but the amount of crying over them is 2 much 4 me.
ME3 is the best in the series (with all DLCs)
I don't care too much for Legion.
I surely have more but this is what comes to mind.
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Post by mikaelnovasun on Apr 30, 2021 11:06:51 GMT
Liara's flirtation in the citadel dlc when coming to Shepard's "rescue" is one reason why I tend to romance Ashley. That was so weird when I was romancing Miranda. I was ready to turn around and fight my way back through CAT6 to escape the blue skinned stalker.
Speaking of Miranda and the citadel dlc. I HATE Mac Walters' Dark Horse ME comics and consider them non-canon mostly for contradicting Miranda's IN-GAME dialogue about not really knowing Brookes and knowing nothing about the clone. How hard is it to stay true to what you established in the actual game....nevermind he helped Hudson with the original ending(s) so he had trouble staying true to events within the same game.
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Post by michaeln7 on Apr 30, 2021 11:43:40 GMT
The reaction to the ending(s) is overrated, over-stated, and over-hyped.
The sci-fi nature of the setting and sheer buildup left little room to accommodate every player's "ideal" outcome.
If you can't headcanon from there, you lack imagination.
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Post by mikaelnovasun on Apr 30, 2021 12:02:54 GMT
The reaction to the ending(s) is overrated, over-stated, and over-hyped. The sci-fi nature of the setting and sheer buildup left little room to accommodate every player's "ideal" outcome. If you can't headcanon from there, you lack imagination. It wasn't the endings themselves that I had a problem with, but the way they were presented. The Star Child was the worst idea and its 5 minute exposition dump crapped all over themes established through out the entire trilogy. The EC did enough to at least patch it up where I just shrug it off and go with my own head canon, destroy destroy...and tis only a flesh wound, Shepard just walked it off after taking that breath.
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Post by RedCaesar97 on Apr 30, 2021 12:03:36 GMT
And as long as the Wraith is an option, I'll never use the Claymore. This might be the spiciest take in this thread. I hate it. Good job.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2021 12:59:55 GMT
Every romance is cringe anyway. Amusing to see the argument over them. They all involve fraternization (regulation or otherwise, everyone on the ship takes your orders), and every Shepard who engages in them is a scumbag shitty Commander for obvious reasons. Theres the additional health/readiness risks in the case of the xenos ones as well. Be pretty funny if you bang Tali and then she gets sick, isnt performing at 100% the next day and someone dies on the vent section as a result. Ironically, Chobot is probably the least ethically compromising one, which is funny given the character only exists because of shitty ethics in gaming "journalism". EDIT: Javik romance is the only exception and the true canon. So much this. Romances in ME are so overrated. The best ones are Steve and casual sex Jack. The rest are a borefest/ jeopardize the mission/ space twilight.
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Post by mikaelnovasun on Apr 30, 2021 13:15:01 GMT
Every romance is cringe anyway. Amusing to see the argument over them. They all involve fraternization (regulation or otherwise, everyone on the ship takes your orders), and every Shepard who engages in them is a scumbag shitty Commander for obvious reasons. Theres the additional health/readiness risks in the case of the xenos ones as well. Be pretty funny if you bang Tali and then she gets sick, isnt performing at 100% the next day and someone dies on the vent section as a result. Ironically, Chobot is probably the least ethically compromising one, which is funny given the character only exists because of shitty ethics in gaming "journalism". EDIT: Javik romance is the only exception and the true canon. So much this. Romances in ME are so overrated. The best ones are Steve and casual sex Jack. The rest are a borefest/ jeopardize the mission/ space twilight. Sure, sure, but have you seen Miranda's....assets. Forget the mission, screw the cheerleader. You only live once...or is it twice?
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Post by Cyberstrike on Apr 30, 2021 13:36:48 GMT
Not for me. But this message boards have strict rules against talking about real world politics because it never ends well for anyone.
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Post by Radec on Apr 30, 2021 13:43:42 GMT
And as long as the Wraith is an option, I'll never use the Claymore. This might be the spiciest take in this thread. I hate it. Good job. The tin can is just a Raider but for weaklings anyway. Amusing to see the heresy of it compared favorably to the High Lord. Feels like 2013 all over.
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Post by mikaelnovasun on Apr 30, 2021 13:56:04 GMT
Not for me. But this message boards have strict rules against talking about real world politics because it never ends well for anyone.
I look forward to people being able to take a joke again. Which seems to be happening at least outside of the twitter\facebook sphere. My papa always said sarcasm is the true sign of wit and humor.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2021 14:54:36 GMT
Well, I don't care about the banging part. lol, I don't think humans and aliens should ever get that far in a relationship. But I do like that he left C-sec and became a mercenary. The whole Omega underground plot was interesting to me. I even wanted a ME game where the player is a mercenary. But alas, we got Andromeda instead. I would love to be a mercenary in the MEU, but not the glorified goons with themed armor that we call mercenaries in Mass Effect, just unaffiliated soldiers of fortune that get driven into some big hero narrative somehow. All of those nagging questions of ethics in terms of who your character is with and the jobs they take fly out the window, plus it would be nice to not have the game have its lousy interpretation of politicians as people you constantly have to answer to. Spicy take: Mass Effect 3 should be scrapped altogether. Instead we should have several games focusing on the MEU build, consolidating the various factions, with no Messiah overarc, just the average people in an unforgiving galaxy. The Reapers are the looming threat, but Arrival should have brought us years, not months. After about 3 shorter games focusing on the Citadel and C-sec, Omega and mercenaries (the first two less human-centric) and Human colonies, this three games fleshing out the MEU, that's when we should have the Reaper war. The games timespan should've lengthened as well, The reaper war happening 5 years after ME2, and the war itself happening over years, not months, maybe divided in two games. The Asari mental manipulation aluded in ME2 should've been made canon. It gives the hilarious asari face blunder in MEA a reason! None of Mac Walter's books/comics are good.
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Post by Radec on Apr 30, 2021 14:54:54 GMT
Every romance is cringe anyway. Amusing to see the argument over them. They all involve fraternization (regulation or otherwise, everyone on the ship takes your orders), and every Shepard who engages in them is a scumbag shitty Commander for obvious reasons. Theres the additional health/readiness risks in the case of the xenos ones as well. Be pretty funny if you bang Tali and then she gets sick, isnt performing at 100% the next day and someone dies on the vent section as a result. Ironically, Chobot is probably the least ethically compromising one, which is funny given the character only exists because of shitty ethics in gaming "journalism". EDIT: Javik romance is the only exception and the true canon. So much this. Romances in ME are so overrated. The best ones are Steve and casual sex Jack. The rest are a borefest/ jeopardize the mission/ space twilight. Best romance
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Post by mikaelnovasun on Apr 30, 2021 15:01:32 GMT
So much this. Romances in ME are so overrated. The best ones are Steve and casual sex Jack. The rest are a borefest/ jeopardize the mission/ space twilight. Best romance My last run Shepard woke up next to Miranda and I found Javik in the bedroom's bathroom. My first thought was, Javik the voyeur or was there a third party in on the action.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Apr 30, 2021 15:03:27 GMT
My last run Shepard woke up next to Miranda and I found Javik in the bedroom's bathroom. My first though was, Javik the voyeur or was there a third party in on the action. It should have been Jack. 😋👍
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Post by mikaelnovasun on Apr 30, 2021 15:04:06 GMT
I would love to be a mercenary in the MEU, but not the glorified goons with themed armor that we call mercenaries in Mass Effect, just unaffiliated soldiers of fortune that get driven into some big hero narrative somehow. All of those nagging questions of ethics in terms of who your character is with and the jobs they take fly out the window, plus it would be nice to not have the game have its lousy interpretation of politicians as people you constantly have to answer to. Spicy take: Mass Effect 3 should be scrapped altogether. Instead we should have several games focusing on the MEU build, consolidating the various factions, with no Messiah overarc, just the average people in an unforgiving galaxy. The Reapers are the looming threat, but Arrival should have brought us years, not months. After about 3 shorter games focusing on the Citadel and C-sec, Omega and mercenaries (the first two less human-centric) and Human colonies, this three games fleshing out the MEU, that's when we should have the Reaper war. The games timespan should've lengthened as well, The reaper war happening 5 years after ME2, and the war itself happening over years, not months, maybe divided in two games. The Asari mental manipulation aluded in ME2 should've been made canon. It gives the hilarious asari face blunder in MEA a reason!None of Mac Walter's books/comics are good. Oh wow that is awesome, and so twisted I like it. Edit: I had to google it, and I wasn't disappointed....
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Post by SirSourpuss on Apr 30, 2021 15:57:11 GMT
My ‘spicy’ take: I must say that I didn’t miss the debates on the ‘best’ romances/LI in the franchise. Debating is fine an all, but the heat the discussions reach sometimes, as well as certain arguments used to demonstrate who is the better one, are baffling. Expecially considering how subjective this topic is. Exactly. Whoever works for you, you don't need to justify yourself to me.
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