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Post by fairdragon on Jun 11, 2024 7:21:00 GMT
Wow! Now isn't THIS a blast from my past. I didn't realize more than three years had gone by since I joined since I think this was one of my early threads. Now to add something of substance: do we have anything more concrete than we'll get to customize the Inky we want and some key decisions? Sorry, cuthbertbeckett , as much information and speculation has been swirling about, I'm finding it hard to keep up. This, however , is a good state of things That’s all we know for now. We'll know more when they show off the CC sometime this summer, unless they tell us earlier. And are you happy about this?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 11, 2024 7:27:08 GMT
That’s all we know for now. We'll know more when they show off the CC sometime this summer, unless they tell us earlier. And are you happy about this? Depends on how they are handled. Figured they’d be in the game, but if they ruin the character I’d rather they weren’t at all. Can only hope if we don’t get to control them when they do show up, they at least learned from the Hawke fiasco.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 11, 2024 7:41:27 GMT
Depends on how they are handled. I thought it was interesting that apparently we get to recreate them at the very beginning, not part way through, and it would seem that our choices may even influence the early part of the game. I take that to mean they are going to use some of the choices from Trespasser even if it is only the one concerning whether the Inquisition was handed to the Divine or disbanded and affects the dialogue by Varric and Harding. However, I suppose it might also include the instructions from the Inquisitor should they catch up with Solas. Of course, they could do a TIM on us and the Inquisitor appears via the communication crystal to give orders. So initially they are simply directing affairs but eventually TIM did come out into the open to confront us as an antagonist in ME3, so they could do a similar thing except the Inquisitor comes out into the open to help.
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Post by midnight tea on Jun 16, 2024 22:04:10 GMT
Of course, they could do a TIM on us and the Inquisitor appears via the communication crystal to give orders. So initially they are simply directing affairs but eventually TIM did come out into the open to confront us as an antagonist in ME3, so they could do a similar thing except the Inquisitor comes out into the open to help. I'd love to have an option where Inquisitor becomes an obstacle or a point of conflict of some sort - based on choices we set and decisions we make throughout the game, whether we'd ever be able to control them or not.
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Post by fairdragon on Jun 17, 2024 7:09:20 GMT
I am very sad about the missing and the start of DA:TV. The Inquistion looks very dumb here and it doesn't make sense to me. I hope that gets better along the way.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 17, 2024 7:32:08 GMT
I am very sad about the missing and the start of DA:TV. The Inquistion looks very dumb here and it doesn't make sense to me. I hope that gets better along the way. I think they said that the full narrative game play should have taken an hour but they cut bits to avoid spoilers and to condense it down to 15 minutes. Hopefully, the missing bits will give some insights into the role of the Inquisitor and the Inquisition in all this. The fact they have confirmed it is 8-9 years since the end of Trespasser does make one wonder what the Inquisitor has been doing all this time. Obviously they have been trying to track down Solas but they really ought to have some sort of strategy for dealing with him when they caught up with him. The Missing seemed to suggest this wasn't the case and the evidence of the trailer seemed to confirm it. That just doesn't make sense. I do also feel, as I said after the 2020 and 2022 trailers, plus the Missing, that Varric has almost been elevated to position of continuity protagonist in place of all our previous heroes but particularly the Inquisitor. (I think it would certainly appear that way to new players). Yes, he got on okay with Solas in DAI, as he did with most people, but it did seem to be a bit of a stretch that he would have such an influence over him that he honestly believed he could talk him out of completing his ritual. If Varric and Harding had tracked Solas to Minrathous, why didn't the Inquisitor join them there? The epilogue to the Dorian romance showed that they were able to sneak into Minrathous if they wanted to. So, I hope they do have a valid explanation for this and why the Inquisitor was nowhere to be seen.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 17, 2024 7:43:18 GMT
I am very sad about the missing and the start of DA:TV. The Inquistion looks very dumb here and it doesn't make sense to me. I hope that gets better along the way. I think they said that the full narrative game play should have taken an hour but they cut bits to avoid spoilers and to condense it down to 15 minutes. Hopefully, the missing bits will give some insights into the role of the Inquisitor and the Inquisition in all this. The fact they have confirmed it is 8-9 years since the end of Trespasser does make one wonder what the Inquisitor has been doing all this time. Obviously they have been trying to track down Solas but they really ought to have some sort of strategy for dealing with him when they caught up with him. The Missing seemed to suggest this wasn't the case and the evidence of the trailer seemed to confirm it. That just doesn't make sense. I do also feel, as I said after the 2020 and 2022 trailers, plus the Missing, that Varric has almost been elevated to position of continuity protagonist in place of all our previous heroes but particularly the Inquisitor. (I think it would certainly appear that way to new players). Yes, he got on okay with Solas in DAI, as he did with most people, but it did seem to be a bit of a stretch that he would have such an influence over him that he honestly believed he could talk him out of completing his ritual. If Varric and Harding had tracked Solas to Minrathous, why didn't the Inquisitor join them there? The epilogue to the Dorian romance showed that they were able to sneak into Minrathous if they wanted to. So, I hope they do have a valid explanation for this and why the Inquisitor was nowhere to be seen. The Inquisitor not being there can simply be explained as they didn’t get there in time. We don’t have access to Eluviams so can’t teleport around Thedas instantaneously. If the Inquisitor was in Orlais for example, it’d take a few weeks at least. Silas simply could have started the ritual before the others got there, so Varric’s squad were the only ones there able to respond.
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Post by fairdragon on Jun 17, 2024 8:09:38 GMT
Yes, he got on okay with Solas in DAI, as he did with most people, but it did seem to be a bit of a stretch that he would have such an influence over him that he honestly believed he could talk him out of completing his ritual. That wasn't my problem. I always expected that we would not be able to persuade Solas beforehand. The Inquisitor not being there can simply be explained as they didn’t get there in time. We don’t have access to Eluviams so can’t teleport around Thedas instantaneously. If the Inquisitor was in Orlais for example, it’d take a few weeks at least. Silas simply could have started the ritual before the others got there, so Varric’s squad were the only ones there able to respond. That is right. But that doesn't explain why they don't have a plan. As gervaise21 said. My hope was Varric commissions us to creat a group and the first act is like the missing (without Varric and Harding). When we get to Solas no inqusition around other than Varric and we see all this in Act 2.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 17, 2024 8:10:34 GMT
The Inquisitor not being there can simply be explained as they didn’t get there in time. That would be the simplest explanation, which would mean that the game did follow on pretty much straight after the Missing. If that is the case time wise, I'm okay with that. I still think they could have come up with a better strategy than the one employed by Varric, unless he was hoping to talk him to death. ![:lol:](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/qUctXNjCPgwPaLsZeKry.png) Perhaps it was that Varric should distract him whilst the others tried to disrupt the ritual. So, it wasn't just a last minute panic reaction on the part of Rook.
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Post by midnight tea on Jun 17, 2024 13:45:02 GMT
I am very sad about the missing and the start of DA:TV. The Inquistion looks very dumb here and it doesn't make sense to me. I hope that gets better along the way. I can't say I am - because despite playing a cat and mouse game with an ancient elven god who's an expert in slinking through the shadows for 10 years AND despite knowing how main shadow Inquisition leaders operate, we're still on his tail. It's also probably pretty hard to find a solution for a ritual employing some very obscure magic of a lost civilization and finding knowledge that may be available only in deepest Fade.
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Post by fairdragon on Jun 17, 2024 13:47:53 GMT
I am very sad about the missing and the start of DA:TV. The Inquistion looks very dumb here and it doesn't make sense to me. I hope that gets better along the way. I can't say I am - because despite playing a cat and mouse game with an ancient elven god who's an expert in slinking through the shadows for 10 years AND despite knowing how main shadow Inquisition leaders operate, we're still on his tail. It's also probably pretty hard to find a solution for a ritual employing some very obscure magic of a lost civilization and finding knowledge that may be available only in deepest Fade. Look what i wrote here: My hope was Varric commissions us to creat a group and the first act is like the missing (without Varric and Harding). When we get to Solas no inqusition around other than Varric and we see all this in Act 2.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Jun 17, 2024 17:14:42 GMT
Watch as they show up in game in those default casual outfit that looks like pajamas.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 17, 2024 20:16:26 GMT
The Inquisitor not being there can simply be explained as they didn’t get there in time. We don’t have access to Eluviams so can’t teleport around Thedas instantaneously. If the Inquisitor was in Orlais for example, it’d take a few weeks at least. Silas simply could have started the ritual before the others got there, so Varric’s squad were the only ones there able to respond. That is right. But that doesn't explain why they don't have a plan. As gervaise21 said. My hope was Varric commissions us to creat a group and the first act is like the missing (without Varric and Harding). When we get to Solas no inqusition around other than Varric and we see all this in Act 2. The Inquisitor not being there can simply be explained as they didn’t get there in time. That would be the simplest explanation, which would mean that the game did follow on pretty much straight after the Missing. If that is the case time wise, I'm okay with that. I still think they could have come up with a better strategy than the one employed by Varric, unless he was hoping to talk him to death. ![:lol:](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/qUctXNjCPgwPaLsZeKry.png) Perhaps it was that Varric should distract him whilst the others tried to disrupt the ritual. So, it wasn't just a last minute panic reaction on the part of Rook. Ph, I hope to be able to have the Inquisitor be quite cross with Varric trying to talk Solas down as he’s doing his ritual as opposed to stopping him while he’s distracted. My Inquisitor would have many plans in place, and trying to talk to Solas when it didn’t work a decade ago is not one of them.
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Post by Reznore on Jun 17, 2024 20:22:40 GMT
Watch as they show up in game in those default casual outfit that looks like pajamas. Please. No.
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Post by themikefest on Jun 17, 2024 23:44:09 GMT
Of course, they could do a TIM on us and the Inquisitor appears via the communication crystal to give orders. So initially they are simply directing affairs but eventually TIM did come out into the open to confront us as an antagonist in ME3, so they could do a similar thing except the Inquisitor comes out into the open to help. I would support this, if that's what happen's. Since you brought up TIM, I will do a playthrough to create a male Inq to look like TIM.
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Post by roselavellan on Jun 18, 2024 2:27:51 GMT
Watch as they show up in game in those default casual outfit that looks like pajamas. That would be hilarious. Better than the Halamshiral outfit anyway. Though either would be acceptable if they let us choose a colour.
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Post by catcher on Jun 19, 2024 22:30:20 GMT
First, thank you Hanako for that confirmation. After years of virtually no information I feel I am trying to drink out of Niagra Falls recently (and trying to avoid story spoilers as well ![:o](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/cbEjAclmTyXCfGpPdhqo.png) ) Now, onto important questions. Where is the Inquisitor and any Shadow Inquisition still left? The best answer is simply what Hanako pointed out, while the Shadow Inquisition has to do with mundane types of travel, the Enemy has Eluvians. Now, why Fen"harel left the door open (or if one of the members of our little party had a special key) is another topic altogether. One idea I had also explains how Fen'Harel was found by the initial party with no real Mook Protection. Part of what we didn't see in the Preview was the Inquisitor and Friends in epic battle with the forces of the Dreadwolf and our party is urged on by said Inquisitor to do what we can while they fight free to join us. On plans to deal with Fen'Harel when locating him, let's start with a quote from pugilistic philosopher, 'Iron' Mike Tyson who famously said "Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face". I'm sure the Inquisition had a Plan A, but then Varric went and left his Chest Hair in his other character model so that was shot all to Void. ![:lol:](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/eMjudLqrqAjoLIOqTalh.png) Seriously, what exact plan did you expect against a godling who routinely, effortlessly destroyed troops of Qunari warriors and spies in Trespasser? "Look at the bones (and lifelike statuary) man!" While Varric does have an elevated sense of his ability as a storyteller, the whole interchange in the trailer screamed more 'I'm playing for time and looking for an answer' than 'I can talk a godling that I didn't really know out of this.' Just an impression I got. Of course, it would be interesting to see how those other choices Rook didn't take in the trailer will still lead to the two Evanuris being released. Maybe the Inquisitor comes and knocks over the statues instead. In any case, I think Fen'Harel's ritual site and how far advanced it was left little choice for the use of some more elaborate plan. You go to (God) war with the dwarf you have, not the one you want.
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Post by Dukemon on Jun 19, 2024 22:31:07 GMT
Since Dragon Age Veilguard continues to rely on the Frostbyte engine, there is nothing to stop the combat system from running as a hybrid. Giving the player and Inquisitor a few more active scenes in combat makes the effort of recreating the Inquisitor much more worthwhile. There was nothing about Hawke that I needed. However, the Inquisitor has it easier somewhere, because Bioware simply has to have two mechanics in the game, one of which is already developed and only needs to be assigned to the passages with the Inquisitor. Plus his abilities as the leader of the Inquisition, which the player will hopefully have control over. I don't want to see another blood mage Hawke moaning about blood mages like he does in the Western Approches.
This with Inquisitor is a big fan service, but if it done right and well thought out and implemented then it is cool. And gives Bioware an approval from me.
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Post by catcher on Jun 20, 2024 19:01:04 GMT
Courtesy luketrevelyn over on the General Discussion thread from some of the Discord Q&A with John Epler Not a surprise really. If they are putting all the resources into a separate Inquisitor creation and Q&A then that character has to get more than a bit role. Not entirely sure that means a playable part protagonist like Rook but that shouldn't be out of the realm of possibility. I'm just surprised (though pleased) that they put this much effort into integrating the Inquisitor into this story. Just hope they live to the end so one of their dialogue options is "I TOLD you I was going to save it again."
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jun 27, 2024 14:42:29 GMT
Watch as they show up in game in those default casual outfit that looks like pajamas. Indeed. ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/CeRUIfXurYhaBmWjMBkt.png)
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