Role of Inquisitor and Inquisition in DA4

It's so weird that Gaider says that but then he also gave Zevran the infamous "actually I prefer women" line (which he says even while in romance with a male Warden). 

My bad. I never played Awakening. Couldn't get it to run on Steam.

Lol, here we go again with people assuming fictional characters' sexualities based on the teeny-tiny slice of their life that they get to see.

"Anders only flirts with women."

No, you only SEE him flirt with women. You complain about characters being "weak", whatever the fuck that means, but in real life, a man isn't automatically 100% pure American heterosexual just because YOU only see him flirt with women.

What person in reality lays out all their sexual and relationship history for you all in one go? Fucking nobody, that's who. Real people keep secrets, real people lie, real people value their privacy. And characters do all those things too, which everyone in here should already know, because we've just been talking about Solas, WHO LITERALLY SPENDS AN ENTIRE GAME KEEPING SECRETS AND LYING TO YOU ABOUT LITERALLY EVERYTHING.

There's an infinite number of reasons why Anders might choose not to disclose his attraction to men and his history with Karl to the Warden while choosing to share it with a Male Hawke. For starters, he might just not fucking feel like it, which is perfectly acceptable, because it's his own fucking business! Just like it would be for any bisexual or gay man in real life!

All this fucking white knighting for "artistic integrity" is utterly laughable. Do you have any idea at all how many drafts books and films and video game scripts go through before they see the light of day? For all any of us know, Gaider may have wanted to make Anders visibly bisexual in Awakening, and might not have been allowed to, or maybe a scene he wrote just ended up not going in because it wasn't relevant. Shit gets cut all the time! They cut an entire expansion for DA2!

And all this lame-ass concern trolling for the writers and the supposed purity of their creative work NEVER applies to protecting queer characters, it always operates on the assumption that the poor widdle writers (even the openly gay ones like David Gaider) WANTED to make everyone straight, but MEAN OLD EA or some nebulous "LGBT agenda" made them change their PRECIOUS ART to pander to those BIG GAY BULLIES WHO SECRETLY RULE THE WORLD and yet still don't have any actual fucking rights.

Meanwhile, when *actual articles* were flying around about Sheryl Chee being pressured to make Suvi bisexual and Vetra straight for ME:A, nobody was standing up for "artistic integrity" then. Nobody congratulated Sheryl for her incredible spine. Because the people saying this crap don't actually care.

What they actually care about is not being seen as gay, they care about it SO FUCKING MUCH, in fact, that they freak out about a fictional man they used to fictionally bro-out with being later revealed as fictionally into dudes, and now they're worried that the entire time they were fictionally hanging out with him that he might have been fictionally checking out their fictional butts.

Plenty of mods to solve that. Which makes for an interesting observation on the Nexus. The mods that turn Dorian and Sera straight are overrun with comments screaming homphobia. Nobody seems to have such issues with the mods that turn Cullen, Cassandra and Blackwall homosexual.

Hang on. Are you saying that people LIKE it when things become MORE fair and DISLIKE it when things become LESS fair?

That's fucking wild.

First off, they're not fucking people, they're fictional fucking characters, and conversion therapy is literally fucking torture inflicted on fucking children and many gay people, like myself, know people who have personally suffered from it, so I highly recommend that you NEVER attempt to draw that comparison around gay people in real life (I assume by the incredible lack of empathy that you don't actually know any) if you like the current shape of your face.

Secondly, do the fucking math. In literally every BioWare game prior to DA2, straight romances have vastly outnumbered same-sex romances (for most of BioWare's games to date, the number of available same-sex romances is ZERO).

In Dragon Age: Inquisition, for the first time ever, straight men have the same number of options as gay men and gay women (two), and straight women have twice as many as everyone else, but they still need to mod Dorian to be available, despite the fact that doing that causes his entire story and character to no longer make any goddamn sense (so much for artistic integrity), because heterosexuals just CANNOT STAND the idea that gay people might get ANYTHING that is just for them.

If you head on over to the Mass Effect franchise, the disparity in favour of heterosexuals, and straight men in particular, is much wider because, again, for most of the games, gay men get ZERO. In Andromeda, prior to Jaal being patched, gay men got two romances, while lesbians and straight women got three each and straight men got FIVE.

When people mod the straight romances to be more accessible, they're addressing an obvious imbalance. When straight people mod Dorian and Sera, the only gay-exclusive romances out of a total eight options, they're just acting out of sheer butthurt that anyone would ever DARE to give gay people anything that is just for them.

They're not though, they just want another pretty blonde boy to bone or a female warrior who they thought was going to be a butch lesbian. Stop making silly excuses that modders had """noble goals""" or something crazy like that.

That's true. My first cousin is only 50% American. You'd be surprised how many people aren't American, at all, to be honest.

SO, INQUISITOR.

Do you think people actually like Inquisitor or are they are more attached to the current plot points that Inquisitor is tangled in? Because honestly, Inquisitor is a pretty boring main character. Only in Trespasser do they get better.

Yeah, just grew up with a gay brother. Neither he nor any of his boyfriends I met over the past 20 years ever considered me lacking in the department. I'll take their judgement over yours, thanks.



Two straight, two everyone in Origins. Seems even. 4 straight, 4 everyone else in Inquisition. Even. Not going to talk about ME, didn't play that much.



I find these mods distatsteful but objectively, is it hurting you personally in any way if some random person romances a modded Dorian with a Femquisitor?



...or they do it for the same reason every other modder does it. Gratification, fun, shits'n'giggles. Not every mod is treatise on social justice.

I mean... anyone still this emotionally invested in Solas either way has bigger problems, lol. But yeah, I didn't mean to say that Solasmancers want to kill Solas, they definitely don't, that was poorly worded on my part.

If we really must do the Solas plot, I really would just rather skip ahead a decade or so to Solas already ruling the world. It solves the lore "issue", new players don't need to know what came before, because it's no longer relevant, and given the powers he demonstrates in Trespasser, I think returning players can make reasonable inferences.

I have never agreed with the logic that the Inquisitor must defeat Solas/is the only one who can. A bunch of drivel about how "I'm going to stop him" doesn't actually mean anything. Solas has all the advantages and the Inquisitor has none.

I always thought a new protagonist made way more sense, and it is also the route that I would find more personally satisfying. Solas' great flaw, at least in my opinion, is his overwhelming arrogance. The Inquisitor is basically the only person he respects and regards as a threat, and so he's going to devote all his attention to them. Short of introducing some lame-ass macguffin, or having Solas turn out to be in fact very stupid (which could happen, BioWare villains are massively incompetent) I don't see how anyone connected to the Inquisition can possibly succeed.

It would be more poetic (and more personally satisfying for me) if Solas was taken down by someone he overlooked specifically because he considered them to be inferior and unworthy of notice. Plus it would just be very funny if, while he was focussing on the remnants of the Inquisition because "only they can stop me", he got his bald ass stabbed in the back by a peasant he left for dead last year.