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Post by SofaJockey on Jun 13, 2021 17:10:00 GMT
For the goddess' sake - get a room...It's hard to have a MELE general discussion for ending debates about the ending. So fill your boots...  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2021 17:33:42 GMT
It's nothing short of a tragedy really. That they won't change the ending? I agree. Nope - you're quoting me out of of context. It's a tragedy that the arguments over the endings have gone on for so many years. I don't blame Bioware for not buckling under to the pressure and changing them.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2021 20:41:05 GMT
I mean, I wasn't particularly overjoyed by aspects of the ending... but then again I wasn't soul-crushingly disappointed either. Honestly, I was on the side of more favorable than unfavorable. I've played games I spent hours on only to feel a surprised "wait, is this it?" at the end. Some endings left me completely unbothered to the point where I can barely remember them. I wouldn't mind seeing them take another stab at the Milky Way (although I was never against Andromeda and liked the idea), but I really do hope they don't railroad us unless at the very least there can be some decently credible lore-reason for doing so. Saying "yeah, your ending just wasn't the true one" is such a cop out, and it would leave a bad taste in my mouth even if my ending turned out to be the canon one. I;m speculating that they'll just be so vague about what happened that any of the EC endings will remain possible. I could be wrong. What I'm basing my guess on is how they changed the introduction to ME2 to be universally applicable no matter what the player did in ME1... "Shepard uncovered the truth." (and they don't specify what the truth was. All of the references Miranda used to make about saving or killing the council are gone in the Legendary Edition... and there is McKay's declaration that the Legendary Edition is the definitive one as far as the Trilogy goes.
Again... it's just my personal opinion/guess and that's all I'm basing it on. I could be wrong. Also, for clarity, where the Legendary Edition did not meet my expectations has nothing to do with the story. I wasn't expected any changes to be made there. Where it has not met my expectation is in the area of squashing some of the old bugs and in how some pretty significant new ones were introducted at the same time. I just didn't expect to have so many problems playing a remaster of game that has been out for 9 or more years already.
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Post by smilesja on Jun 17, 2021 21:45:32 GMT
It's nothing short of a tragedy really. That they won't change the ending? I agree. Eh the story is done and dusted, no use to going back now.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jun 17, 2021 21:47:03 GMT
That they won't change the ending? I agree. Eh the story is done and dusted, no use to going back now. We just did, though. 33 days ago.
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Post by smilesja on Jun 17, 2021 23:45:45 GMT
Eh the story is done and dusted, no use to going back now. We just did, though. 33 days ago. More like no fixing it now, BioWare decided to stick to its guns and not fix the ending. So not much we can do. |
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jun 17, 2021 23:54:54 GMT
More like no fixing it now, BioWare decided to stick to its guns and not fix the ending. So not much we can do. True. And Mac is convinced, since no uproar this time, everyone just loved the ending. So no need to go back on it now. They can do whatever they want. They are free. |
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Post by Iakus on Jun 18, 2021 0:02:17 GMT
More like no fixing it now, BioWare decided to stick to its guns and not fix the ending. So not much we can do. True. And Mac is convinced, since no uproar this time, everyone just loved the ending. So no need to go back on it now. They can do whatever they want. They are free. Can't help but wonder at the percentages of those who finished MELE's ME3 compared to how many finished the original ME3...
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jun 18, 2021 0:06:28 GMT
True. And Mac is convinced, since no uproar this time, everyone just loved the ending. So no need to go back on it now. They can do whatever they want. They are free. Can't help but wonder at the percentages of those who finished MELE's ME3 compared to how many finished the original ME3... That's completely typical. It doesn't matter if they finished the game, it's the fact that they bought it, knowing full well what it entails. So if they bought it, they endorse it. Besides, you can't expect them to finish 3 full games. It's going to take some time. Months even. Not to mention replayability. This will last them till the DA4 release. Playing 3 Bioware games, over and over again.
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Post by colfoley on Jun 18, 2021 0:09:17 GMT
While important the ending is seriously just one part ME 3. It doesen't really do much to tarnish ME 3, doesen't do much to tarnish ME 1 and ME 2, and certainly doesen't do anything to tarnish Andromeda. These games are still hella great and still having a blast with them despite the .01% of its game content that genuinely sucks.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jun 18, 2021 0:12:13 GMT
While important the ending is seriously just one part ME 3. It doesen't really do much to tarnish ME 3, doesen't do much to tarnish ME 1 and ME 2, and certainly doesen't do anything to tarnish Andromeda. These games are still hella great and still having a blast with them despite the .01% of its game content that genuinely sucks. Right. It's just those pesky gamers and their right wing politics that are sabotaging Bioware. |
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on Jun 18, 2021 1:15:17 GMT
While important the ending is seriously just one part ME 3. It doesen't really do much to tarnish ME 3, doesen't do much to tarnish ME 1 and ME 2, and certainly doesen't do anything to tarnish Andromeda. These games are still hella great and still having a blast with them despite the .01% of its game content that genuinely sucks. Right. It's just those pesky gamers and their right wing politics that are sabotaging Bioware. You say that which some fairly obvious sarcasm but I have ran into a few examples that I think would fit that statement. And given the fairly strong stance against openly talking about politics in all the gaming places I frequent. It is a mild curiosity if political views could influence people's opinions of the games.
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Post by smilesja on Jun 18, 2021 1:16:25 GMT
While important the ending is seriously just one part ME 3. It doesen't really do much to tarnish ME 3, doesen't do much to tarnish ME 1 and ME 2, and certainly doesen't do anything to tarnish Andromeda. These games are still hella great and still having a blast with them despite the .01% of its game content that genuinely sucks. Right. It's just those pesky gamers and their right wing politics that are sabotaging Bioware. What does that have to do with anything?
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Post by NotN7 on Jun 18, 2021 1:21:30 GMT
Holy cow! you all arguing about the endings again? guess you won't give it a rest like those of us who actually played the original game (before the director cut)  |
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jun 18, 2021 1:31:43 GMT
You say that which some fairly obvious sarcasm I have no idea what you're talking about. but I have ran into a few examples that I think would fit that statement There you go. You even have proof, yourself. What does that have to do with anything? Isn't it obvious? Gamers sabotaged Andromeda's reception. |
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Post by Iakus on Jun 18, 2021 4:42:47 GMT
Holy cow! you all arguing about the endings again? guess you won't give it a rest like those of us who actually played the original game (before the director cut)  Played the original game, before EC (still have the N7 edition box as a reminder to myself "Caveat Emptor"). Still think the endings are a radioactive dumpster fire. Painting a smiley face on them didn't make them magically good. Or even adequate.
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Post by smilesja on Jun 18, 2021 6:45:59 GMT
Holy cow! you all arguing about the endings again? guess you won't give it a rest like those of us who actually played the original game (before the director cut) 
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2021 9:56:40 GMT
For the goddess' sake - get a room...It's hard to have a MELE general discussion for ending debates about the ending. So fill your boots... Hey, sofa.... why didn't you pull the posts I was responding to as well? I'm feeling a little picked on here. 
"I'm Commander Shepard and I approve this thread."
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2021 9:57:29 GMT
Holy cow! you all arguing about the endings again? guess you won't give it a rest like those of us who actually played the original game (before the director cut) Oh God... Stallone looks so young!
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Post by SofaJockey on Jun 18, 2021 12:04:02 GMT
Hey, sofa.... why didn't you pull the posts I was responding to as well? I'm feeling a little picked on here. The posts weren't bad. (this thread is not a sin bin) I just started from a point in time and you happened to be there. I'm sure you can develop your points afresh with others. 
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on Jun 18, 2021 12:17:58 GMT
You say that which some fairly obvious sarcasm I have no idea what you're talking about. but I have ran into a few examples that I think would fit that statement There you go. You even have proof, yourself. What does that have to do with anything? Isn't it obvious? Gamers sabotaged Andromeda's reception. Your not very good at subtly.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jun 18, 2021 12:20:54 GMT
Your not very good at subtly. Maybe I'm not good at subtly. Maybe I'm better at subtlety. Nah, I suck at both. |
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Post by themikefest on Jun 18, 2021 12:37:45 GMT
ah yes, the endings. Shoot this, pull that and jump in here.
I like the red. I like seeing the reapers fall over dead. I don't like the lead up to make that happen.
The green crap is exactly that, crap. It works in things favor not organics favor. The blue is crap as well. Shepard becomes thing part 2. It doesn't have any shackles like thing part 1 didn't have. What's to stop it from continuing what thing part 1 was doing?
One of the biggest issues is the one controlling the reapers is the one telling Shepard what choice he/she can make instead of getting that information from the ones who built the giant microphone. Then again they were building something, something that would do something, something.
When thing shows up, I turn on themikefest mod. It's a simple mod. I laugh the whole time thing speaks.
I would prefer Hackett's ending. It's something I've mentioned for years. It's simple.
No matter what, it's a story being told to a kid. So it's likely the guy told things that were very far from what really happened. He's changed the story once already. He will likely do it again. Instead of fighting the reapers, it could be Shepard is really a farmer having to deal with the local government to keep his/her land.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2021 12:47:59 GMT
Hey, sofa.... why didn't you pull the posts I was responding to as well? I'm feeling a little picked on here. The posts weren't bad. (this thread is not a sin bin) I just started from a point in time and you happened to be there. I'm sure you can develop your points afresh with others.  Given my somewhat, let's say, "argumentative" history on this topic, I"m surprised you're encouraging me...
Nah... "I think we're done here." (as Shepard breathes a sigh of relief).
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Post by SofaJockey on Jun 18, 2021 13:15:52 GMT
You act like there is much to talk about. The LE is just the original release with graphical and performance upgrades. Everything that has been said about them for the last 8 years has been said. The only new thing are new players coming into repeat what has already been said 8 years ago simply because they are new. 
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Given my somewhat, let's say, "argumentative" history on this topic, I"m surprised you're encouraging me...