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Post by talyn82 on Mar 10, 2022 9:24:37 GMT
I've always heard good things about the series and want to know what the hype is about. I got the first two games for free through a GoG.com giveaway years ago but never played them. Well that's not true I played a bit of the first one and did not like the combat. So should I just jump to the second one or should I buy the 3rd one which I heard is the best one? Eight months ago I bought the Mass Effect Legendary Edition and played it blind and was pleasantly surprised. I really want to try the Witcher games. I forgot to say I only saw the first season of the Witcher Netflix series and liked it so maybe I will enjoy the games?
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Mar 10, 2022 10:14:31 GMT
I can't help you with the first game. Never tried it. I played the 2nd and enjoyed it well enough. It is very deeply committed to an aesthetic and to a style. The combat can take a bit of getting used to, though, it is full action, unlike DA games. The story is quite good, too. And it has a point where it diverges completely, so the 2nd Act of the game can be completely different between two play throughs (different area entirely with different characters/quests/etc).
As for TW3...I consider it to be one of the all-time greats.
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Post by Blast Processor on Mar 10, 2022 17:00:52 GMT
Its hard to say, obviously the Witcher 3 is the most polished of the three, the dialogue writing is some of the best in gaming, though it still has its warts in other areas. Each of these games are fairly standalone, so you don't need to play through all three if you don't want to. The first two games are still very good in my opinion but there gameplay does tend to push people away. Also, as Dragon mentioned, the Witcher 2 is very ambitious narratively, the limitations of game development keep it from reaching its true potential. Its great, just don't think too hard on the narrative threads. LOL.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 10, 2022 18:06:56 GMT
Don’t waste your time on the games. They are very overhyped, being average at best in parts but mostly just bad.
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Post by talyn82 on Mar 10, 2022 18:12:16 GMT
DragonKingReborn and Blast Processor thank you for your replies. After reading overwhelmingly positive reviews last night I bought the Witcher 3 Game of the Year Edition. I normally don't do this but 8 months ago I took a chance with the Mass Effect games and before that Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines and was happy with both purchases. Once I decide on what game to play I will keep everyone posted.
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Post by talyn82 on Mar 10, 2022 18:15:10 GMT
Don’t waste your time on the games. They are very overhyped, being average at best in parts but mostly just bad. Well I took the gamble and bought Witcher 3 it is the only game in the series I payed for. The other two I got for free. So since two out of the three games were free I figure if they're garbage it won't hurt my wallet as much as if I payed for them.
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Ok ok. The Witcher 1... Is a good game. After playing the other two, you may revisit it with nostalgia and enjoy it more. I am about to embark on another trilogy run, because it is a worthy trilogy. With some ridiculously cheesy aspects that offend some people. Ahem. The combat is rhythm. Once you understand how to combo, I actually enjoyed the combat. Use of potions and signs was a little confusing to me at first, but they aren't really necessary for all combat - swinging the correct sword will get the job done quite well. The game is old and looks it. Mod it. Easy to mod, it is an old Bioware engine after all. Go to Nexus. Item Stacking mod is crucial imo, otherwise inventory management becomes a pita. Witcher 2: Fantastic game. Combat is somewhat improved, mechanics a little more important to use. Lots of ways to build Geraldo. Story is compelling, and as mentioned divergent storyline half way through, offering good stuff for both paths even if IMO only one of them is clearly canon. Witcher 3: Game starts slow. I quit playing 2 times, this is after completing 1&2 multiple times. Once I decided to give it a final chance, I got to the Baron and the Witches. Welp, now it's top 5 gaming experience for me, the story, choices, consequences, and brutality of the world is really something. You can replay it to death I think. You paid great prices for the series  I highly recommend giving them a chance. It may be that 1 is too janky as a starting point; depends on how much you can enjoy older graphics and what is the initial offering from what was a pretty small studio. 2 is a fine starting point, and looks pretty good still and can be modded as well. All the games can be modded, and have good mods available. If you aren't into cheesy sex in video games, avoid the brothels except for quests. You don't miss XP from not banging prostitutes, most of "the sex" (insert Borat voice) is skipable. My mod list for Witcher 1: AI Upscaled Kaer Morhen AiO AI Textures with The Witcher Overhaul Celina Wreath Fix Faster Movement Mod Han gives Han Item Stacking and Equipment Slots Missing Kalkstein and Leuvaarden Clues No Cemetery Drowners (optional, less cheese hordes) Plentiful Han (easier crafting) Plentiful Herbs (^^) Sound and Texture Overhaul Texture Fix Realistic Mood HD Tw1 - Carmen and Friends (I do visit the brothels  ) TWEditorEnhanced (can't remember what this does honestly, might be a save editor or level editor) For Witcher 2, I only am using Weight Watchers mod. Keeps me slim and trim, and damn the inventory management. For 3, Autoloot with no accidental stealing, Over 9000 (another inventory mod FFS), and TW3 HD Reworked... Which will be replaced soon by the next gen update that should be coming out sometime this year. So, of course, the old game needs the most help. Anyways, sorry for blathering on, but my 2c often comes with a dollar of words.
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Post by talyn82 on Mar 10, 2022 19:45:13 GMT
@gaben7 I appreciate the post. As for old games I still play Planescape: Torment and as for combat jankiness I still play Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines, so none of those issues will deter me.  Thank you for the mod list. My Geralt may visit a brothel just for scientific reasons.  I will start with the first game then since I played a bit more and found out Geralt has amnesia, so I wonder what happened to him and will he get his memories back.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2022 21:35:21 GMT
Don't watch the show.
It isn't 100% game (or novel) accurate, but there are lots of spoilers.
If you end up playing the trilogy, then watch the show. I would be interested to hear another's critique from at least a game-informed PoV. I enjoy it, but they have taken some liberties with a particular Witcher that I found disturbing. As in, WTF were you thinking dude, you're an ignoramus and this can't happen, disturbing.
Anyways that's a whole different topic!
I hope I have avoided spoilers enough, and was vague enough with the one spoilery thing I can see.
I think you're in for a fun ride. You will yawn occasionally, and in TW1 your eyes may roll out of your head once or twice. Take it with strong drink of your choice, Geralt would.
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Post by talyn82 on Mar 10, 2022 22:09:09 GMT
Don't watch the show. It isn't 100% game (or novel) accurate, but there are lots of spoilers. If you end up playing the trilogy, then watch the show. I would be interested to hear another's critique from at least a game-informed PoV. I enjoy it, but they have taken some liberties with a particular Witcher that I found disturbing. As in, WTF were you thinking dude, you're an ignoramus and this can't happen, disturbing. Anyways that's a whole different topic! I hope I have avoided spoilers enough, and was vague enough with the one spoilery thing I can see. I think you're in for a fun ride. You will yawn occasionally, and in TW1 your eyes may roll out of your head once or twice. Take it with strong drink of your choice, Geralt would. No worries about me having been spoiled by the series. I've forgotten most of it. All I remember was a King getting shot through the eye with an arrow. But your post was very informative I did not feel like you spoiled anything that I know of. I look forward to tonight after work to playing the Witcher. I was able to find most of the mods you listed for the first game on Nexus. Some were no longer available. I'll download them later tonight. 
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Post by seven on Mar 10, 2022 22:46:46 GMT
I started off with the 3rd, and, sure there are some references you may not get, but it is sufficient enough on its own to be understood.
I have the other 2, started playing the first, but have just not bothered to get around to resuming it.
However, when I bought the 3rd one, it was for console, so I can't really make a comparison for gameplay style with that in the mix.
Hope you enjoy it!
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Post by Blast Processor on Mar 11, 2022 0:41:40 GMT
Glad you are going to start with the first game. Some consider it the black sheep of the series, while others hold it in the same regard as TW3. And as gaben mentioned, the combat is fine once you get used to it.
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Post by talyn82 on Mar 11, 2022 7:34:56 GMT
I am playing the first Witcher game and am enjoying it so far. The game engine is based on the Aurora engine from BioWare used in Neverwinter Nights. So that means I can pause the game and switch styles. The fight through Kaer Mohren was not that difficult. Sometimes when the heavy hitters would surround me I'd have trouble. Anyway cleansed the Fort of the bandits. The leaders stole the mutagens. Triss was weakened and since she allergic to magic had to create a healing potion for her. She was cured. Oh yeah Leo died. After the funeral pyre the group separated. Geralt went to Vizima. Found a way to make easy way to make cash through the fist fights.
Anyway I need a silver sword to fight monsters? Those spectral dogs almost killed me. Vesemir said he gave me a weapon but it's not in my inventory, and I checked throughout the Fort. Oh the game has a codex which is great. It gets me into the lore of the Witcher universe.
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Post by Gileadan on Mar 11, 2022 7:43:53 GMT
I am playing the first Witcher game and am enjoying it so far. The game engine is based on the Aurora engine from BioWare used in Neverwinter Nights. So that means I can pause the game and switch styles. The fight through Kaer Mohren was not that difficult. Sometimes when the heavy hitters would surround me I'd have trouble. Anyway cleansed the Fort of the bandits. The leaders stole the mutagens. Triss was weakened and since she allergic to magic had to create a healing potion for her. She was cured. Oh yeah Leo died. After the funeral pyre the group separated. Geralt went to Vizima. Found a way to make easy way to make cash through the fist fights. Anyway I need a silver sword to fight monsters? Those spectral dogs almost killed me. Vesemir said he gave me a weapon but it's not in my inventory, and I checked throughout the Fort. Oh the game has a codex which is great. It gets me into the lore of the Witcher universe. Oh yes you do. It's important. The silver sword is for monsters. Have fun!
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Post by Blast Processor on Mar 11, 2022 8:13:08 GMT
Geralt is given a silver sword at the beginning of Chapter 2. So sadly you have to deal with those barghest's without it.
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Post by talyn82 on Mar 11, 2022 9:42:16 GMT
Geralt is given a silver sword at the beginning of Chapter 2. So sadly you have to deal with those barghest's without it. Not only barghest I had to fight a ghoul. It took forever to kill with a steel sword. I finally remembered I could use the Aard sign which I did to knock it down then kill it with the sword.
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Geralt is given a silver sword at the beginning of Chapter 2. So sadly you have to deal with those barghest's without it. Not only barghest I had to fight a ghoul. It took forever to kill with a steel sword. I finally remembered I could use the Aard sign which I did to knock it down then kill it with the sword. Yes, yes!
Aard is a power that will give you many OHK opportunities. Drowner > Aard > Stab through the heart on the ground like a wriggling worm.
Quen will become your best friend eventually. I scoffed at this through my first playthrough... by the end of TW3 I understood. The power is nuts once you understand it.
Igni never gets old 
Forgot about not having a silver sword at the beginning; yeah, monsters aren't afraid much of steel. There is no way to get one before it is granted to you as BP noted. This makes the first Act a bit of an extended tutorial, but it is a good time to find your go-to power. For me, it was Aard for a long time, and it still is the most used power just for the OHK opps.
The other two powers (Yrden and Axii) are more situational, but Yrden will get a lot of use eventually. Specific enemies hate this one trick.
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Post by talyn82 on Mar 11, 2022 21:05:25 GMT
Not only barghest I had to fight a ghoul. It took forever to kill with a steel sword. I finally remembered I could use the Aard sign which I did to knock it down then kill it with the sword. Yes, yes!
Aard is a power that will give you many OHK opportunities. Drowner > Aard > Stab through the heart on the ground like a wriggling worm.
Quen will become your best friend eventually. I scoffed at this through my first playthrough... by the end of TW3 I understood. The power is nuts once you understand it.
Igni never gets old 
Forgot about not having a silver sword at the beginning; yeah, monsters aren't afraid much of steel. There is no way to get one before it is granted to you as BP noted. This makes the first Act a bit of an extended tutorial, but it is a good time to find your go-to power. For me, it was Aard for a long time, and it still is the most used power just for the OHK opps.
The other two powers (Yrden and Axii) are more situational, but Yrden will get a lot of use eventually. Specific enemies hate this one trick.
Yep, Aard is my go to power now. That fight with the ghoul was rather comical after two real life minutes trying to kill it I just said screw it and tried the power. To my surprise it knocked it down and then I just stabbed it. But I can't imagine running into a group of them. I assume there are a couple in the crypt? I finally got used to the combat. Once I leveled up the Barghests are not much of a problem anymore. 
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Post by slimgrin727 on Mar 12, 2022 0:06:21 GMT
In all three games, Aard is arguably the best sign. You get stun, damage, knockdown effect.
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Post by Curious Crow on Mar 12, 2022 0:40:00 GMT
talyn82 There are also some oils you can make for the weapons. Necrophage oil is in The Book of the Swallow which I think you should have by this point and should give you a nice edge against those pesky ghouls.
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Post by dazk on Mar 12, 2022 0:58:47 GMT
talyn82 so glad to hear you started with TW1 it is a great game even though first up it can be a challenge with the combat (fast and slow, Silver v Steel), learning to use oils and the powers. The Cat potion will be invaluable in some quests that will be totally dark so always carry some with you. Aard and Igni are my go to powers as others have mentioned and Aard in particular as you progress through the three games can be really important for more than combat. In TW1 they are expensive but books are a important to buy to learn about your enemies. Just be prepared in TW1 and early TW2 to be patient combat can be a challenge at first.
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I had been ready, anyways, but your thread has pushed me over and I started a new run today. Then I abruptly stopped :/ Either my memory fails me, or I am having a setup-specific issue. I cannot bind my mouse side buttons or scroll click. I think these are usually mouse button 4,5 and 6. I can bind keyboard keys and left/right click to any command, but when I try to map those buttons the game doesn't register the input. Digging deeper, because I'm stubborn and was busy enough tending to the ill at home that that there was no real time for gaming, I found that there is no .ini  The deeper settings, of all places, are in the registry! Egads. Anyways, I'm looking further into it, and I have several workarounds. I am just used to basing my keybinds now, across most games with "quick key" power use, on how I set up for ME3MP. Muscle memory is there, why not use it when you can? Everything but the omni-button I keep mostly the same. I'll stop hijacking your thread now. Have fun out there, but remember the outcast despised loner that you are, and treat the people according to your mood as a result  A Witcher always gets paid.
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Post by dazk on Mar 12, 2022 1:38:14 GMT
I had been ready, anyways, but your thread has pushed me over and I started a new run today. Then I abruptly stopped :/ Either my memory fails me, or I am having a setup-specific issue. I cannot bind my mouse side buttons or scroll click. I think these are usually mouse button 4,5 and 6. I can bind keyboard keys and left/right click to any command, but when I try to map those buttons the game doesn't register the input. Digging deeper, because I'm stubborn and was busy enough tending to the ill at home that that there was no real time for gaming, I found that there is no .ini  The deeper settings, of all places, are in the registry! Egads. Anyways, I'm looking further into it, and I have several workarounds. I am just used to basing my keybinds now, across most games with "quick key" power use, on how I set up for ME3MP. Muscle memory is there, why not use it when you can? Everything but the omni-button I keep mostly the same. I'll stop hijacking your thread now. Have fun out there, but remember the outcast despised loner that you are, and treat the people according to your mood as a result  A Witcher always gets paid. I was thinking after reading this thread I too might start a new Witcher PT, it's been a while but yeah this may have pushed me over the edge as well.
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Post by talyn82 on Mar 12, 2022 5:00:11 GMT
talyn82 so glad to hear you started with TW1 it is a great game even though first up it can be a challenge with the combat (fast and slow, Silver v Steel), learning to use oils and the powers. The Cat potion will be invaluable in some quests that will be totally dark so always carry some with you. Aard and Igni are my go to powers as others have mentioned and Aard in particular as you progress through the three games can be really important for more than combat. In TW1 they are expensive but books are a important to buy to learn about your enemies. Just be prepared in TW1 and early TW2 to be patient combat can be a challenge at first. Thanks. When not continuing my current playthrough of ME3, I am playing Witcher 1. About the Cat potion I could swear Triss gave me one before we left the Fort. But I got a quest to find someone in a crypt and I assume it's going to be dark in there and full of ghouls. Yes, I did buy a book about Drowners from the "witch" Abigail after I collected the 10 barghest skulls she needed. I bought the book about Drowners because I met a hunter who was not a Witcher, who told me that they were killing travelers. Oh during the night I came upon a town that had two watchmen standing outside. Immediately after talking to them we were attacked by a barghest, at the end of the fight everyone was dead and I am sure I killed one of the watchmen lol.
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