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Post by wickedcool on Oct 12, 2023 15:09:28 GMT
This thread is here to talk about it. It’s not an invasive thing
Bg3 might be the greatest thing that has happened to rpg games in Avery long time. Hey I wish dragon age inquisition got the buzz out there but it never did. Witcher 3 eclipsed it and so did this game
Until recently is was still planning for another run in dai.
For me dai I had a lot of wishing while I played it I wish it felt more immersive to be an elf qunari dwarf etc I wish I didn’t have to go back to change from sword and board to 2 handed or archer I wish I talked to leliana during a certain early scene and said the right thing
Not going to go on and on but dai takes a lot of work to make it work. You have to do a lot of fetch quests to get Solas approval etc
I’ve been here since dao came out and I keep coming back YEARS later for a crumb of news on this game and I’m here to share my love for what I think is just a better game. Now if origins had come out with these graffics and the ability to jump fly etc then you might have a contender
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Post by fylimar on Oct 12, 2023 15:36:54 GMT
It feels like it's the entire fanbase, every encounter with a BG3 fan has been horrible. Why should I listen to the "good" fans if they're not even standing up to this nonsense? This is uncalled for. Those people you mentioned are a few among many fans. I'm a fan and I'm also a DA fan, you don't see me talking shit here. I said, I personally do like BG3 more, but that this is entirely subjective. There are idiots in every fandom, I have encountered extreemly toxic people here too, so this is nothing new. Call them out and report them. I'll do that too, because I don't stand for stuff like that - but don't call us all horrible, that is just unfair, ok?
I don't even know what to think about posts like that?
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Post by fylimar on Oct 12, 2023 15:48:11 GMT
Can BG3 fans not invade other fanbases like Starfield and tear their games down just to feel morally superior please? I mean I get it, BG3 is perfect without any flaws okay? So stop shoving the game down my throat while I'm trying to search for some tips on Starfield. Honestly the rampant fanboyism around the BG3 makes me not want to buy the game. Why do I want to join a bunch a ravenous fanbase who hates your guts and puts their game on a pedestal as the "savior of gaming?" I mean it's comprised of a fanbase who think you're stupid for like action RPGs and blames you for the downfall of "modern gaming." I've seen people on Starfield reddit belittle people for PLAYING THE GAME THAT'S ON THE SUBREDDIT just to advertise their perfect, precious game. I try not to bash other games and try to be fair but this constant praise of BG3 is getting tiresome. If I buy the game once it comes out on Xbox, I'm not sure If I can give it a fair review without remembering the fans who hate me just because I play games like Starfield. It feels like I have to say "oh I love Starfield despite its flaws" but that SAME LOGIC doesn't apply to a BG3 fan apparently because Larian is a company who will single handeldly save gaming from the console plebs like me. Sorry for the rant, but even I'm really tired of fans who consistently display double standards. Okay, a CRPG is mainstream excellent now stop trying to say that other games suck because it's not BG3. No game will be it, and honestly if RPGs especially try to become like it, I'm done in all honesty. And even the next Larian Game will not be a BG3.
I agree you can't compare any game to BG3 without people getting on your nerves. So i hope for factual discussion here.
I wait and see what happen in the future with Larian. The fans have decided BG3 cannot be topped. So Larian go the CD Projekt RED way or get complained about by their fans because the next game is not BG3 scope.
But i understand why. BG3 was a game many wanted but didn't get for years. DA Joplin in 2020 would have been a blessing but it is as it is.
I'm a BG3 fan and I would never say, it can't be topped or that it is the best game, I've ever played (that would be Vampire teh Masquerade Bloodlines btw). I love the game, I loved the first two games and am glad, I was able to get back to Faerun. I admit, my excitment for DA4 is dampered after the latest news about Bioware and EA, but I still love DAO and DA2 and I don't think, this is a popularity race. Most players from early access of BG3 and some new players do have points of critizism - you can see it in Larian forum and Discord. There is no perfect game and there is always room for improvement. And if there are people going around on different platforms harrassing other people, it is not ok and they should get called out. I had an issue with calling all of us fans horrible, because the majority is just discussing story elements like the DA people do here.
And tbh, I've met my share of very toxic people in this forum too, who tried to push their beliefs on me.
It is about what people subjectively like or dislike and for one DA is the best thing, that ever happened, for others it is Skyrim or BG3 or Starfield or whatever else. I have a lot of games I like and I don't keep a score. Maybe this thread is a big mistake - we have two BG3 threads in the other games section and maybe people should discuss there.
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Post by The Loyal Nub on Oct 12, 2023 16:34:33 GMT
BG3 has flaws. It's a long game, and the only games I ever played that were close to flawless were 30 hours games like POrtal 2. Still there's a lot of content in BG3 and lots of it is high quality. Larian like all games company will eventually get torn to pieces , in the gaming world it goes from "can do no wrong" to "just the worst ever" in a flash. Cyberpunk was the worst thing that ever happened. A few patches later, a anime serie, and some hype...a game that is mostly the same as it was just less glitchy is the best thing since sliced bread. To a certain extent that's already happened in Larian's history. They were making Divinity games in the early 2000's and people thought them meh clones of of more well known crpg's like Baldur's Gate. Like BioWare they also spent some time under the umbrella of a larger publisher and when that turned disasterous had to buy their way back to being an independent. Larian's recent run of success is three games old and to be sure their due another down-turn at some point. I just hope they weather it well when it comes. As for Act3 of BG3 I lay that down to Larian's annoying habit of not holding your hand. So it's entirely possible to do Act3 and miss large parts of plot and backstory and still complete the game and feel like you did accomplish something when you actually missed a huge chunk of story. The above happened to me. I did a mission in the wrong order or wrong time and there wasn't really any sign-posting by Larian that it would be better to do the mission later or in a different order. I finished the game and got the achievement. On the second playthrough I did something a little different in order and got a whole chunk of plot opened to me that explained a major character's motivations and a helluva lot more about what was going on behind the scenes. In the interest of spoilers I won't reveal that because I think Larian's point is just to play it the way you want and even win by doing it kinda wrong if you want. Lots of people would rather play and have the game hint to them where they should go next and BG3 just will not do that.
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Post by river82 on Oct 12, 2023 20:16:52 GMT
Larian's recent run of success is three games old and to be sure their due another down-turn at some point. I just hope they weather it well when it comes. This is really good in modern gaming btw, especially with how long it takes to develop each game. In comparison, Bethesda's amazing run was 4 games, Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim, and Fallout 3. Since then they've slid.
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Post by river82 on Oct 12, 2023 20:21:43 GMT
Maybe this thread is a big mistake - we have two BG3 threads in the other games section and maybe people should discuss there. The thread was created because people were annoyed we were discussing BG3 in the Shmooples Den. We tried to explain there's really nothing to talk about with Dragon Age games especially with most Bioware devs leaving twitter unless it's speculating about release dates for the five millionth time, but it is what it is xD
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Post by fairdragon on Oct 13, 2023 8:54:47 GMT
And even the next Larian Game will not be a BG3.
I agree you can't compare any game to BG3 without people getting on your nerves. So i hope for factual discussion here.
I wait and see what happen in the future with Larian. The fans have decided BG3 cannot be topped. So Larian go the CD Projekt RED way or get complained about by their fans because the next game is not BG3 scope.
But i understand why. BG3 was a game many wanted but didn't get for years. DA Joplin in 2020 would have been a blessing but it is as it is.
I'm a BG3 fan and I would never say, it can't be topped or that it is the best game, I've ever played (that would be Vampire teh Masquerade Bloodlines btw). I love the game, I loved the first two games and am glad, I was able to get back to Faerun. I admit, my excitment for DA4 is dampered after the latest news about Bioware and EA, but I still love DAO and DA2 and I don't think, this is a popularity race. Most players from early access of BG3 and some new players do have points of critizism - you can see it in Larian forum and Discord. There is no perfect game and there is always room for improvement. And if there are people going around on different platforms harrassing other people, it is not ok and they should get called out. I had an issue with calling all of us fans horrible, because the majority is just discussing story elements like the DA people do here.
And tbh, I've met my share of very toxic people in this forum too, who tried to push their beliefs on me.
It is about what people subjectively like or dislike and for one DA is the best thing, that ever happened, for others it is Skyrim or BG3 or Starfield or whatever else. I have a lot of games I like and I don't keep a score. Maybe this thread is a big mistake - we have two BG3 threads in the other games section and maybe people should discuss there.
That is the reason why i speak here about it and am very careful elsewhere. I was on Larian forum and their where some people with a good standpoint. But their are also people who say Larian can't do wrong and every criticism is wrong. And if i would put my thoughts out there i would get many back flash. Because i am happy for a BG3 but i have many problems how it turned out. And i am not the only one. I have never call all fans horrible. It is only that i get very fast annoyed from the BG3/Larian hardcore fans. I don't know why. Normaly here or on youtube i like to discuss with hardcore fans no problem. even if the discussion get a bit heated up. But they are telling me everything is the best. No bugs, no unfinished storys and no wrong working romaces. Sorry but how should you communicate with someone like that?
They definitely should discuss there. I only created this threads to get the BG3 comments out of the news thread.
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Post by fylimar on Oct 13, 2023 9:54:14 GMT
I'm a BG3 fan and I would never say, it can't be topped or that it is the best game, I've ever played (that would be Vampire teh Masquerade Bloodlines btw). I love the game, I loved the first two games and am glad, I was able to get back to Faerun. I admit, my excitment for DA4 is dampered after the latest news about Bioware and EA, but I still love DAO and DA2 and I don't think, this is a popularity race. Most players from early access of BG3 and some new players do have points of critizism - you can see it in Larian forum and Discord. There is no perfect game and there is always room for improvement. And if there are people going around on different platforms harrassing other people, it is not ok and they should get called out. I had an issue with calling all of us fans horrible, because the majority is just discussing story elements like the DA people do here.
And tbh, I've met my share of very toxic people in this forum too, who tried to push their beliefs on me.
It is about what people subjectively like or dislike and for one DA is the best thing, that ever happened, for others it is Skyrim or BG3 or Starfield or whatever else. I have a lot of games I like and I don't keep a score. Maybe this thread is a big mistake - we have two BG3 threads in the other games section and maybe people should discuss there.
That is the reason why i speak here about it and am very careful elsewhere. I was on Larian forum and their where some people with a good standpoint. But their are also people who say Larian can't do wrong and every criticism is wrong. And if i would put my thoughts out there i would get many back flash. Because i am happy for a BG3 but i have many problems how it turned out. And i am not the only one. I have never call all fans horrible. It is only that i get very fast annoyed from the BG3/Larian hardcore fans. I don't know why. Normaly here or on youtube i like to discuss with hardcore fans no problem. even if the discussion get a bit heated up. But they are telling me everything is the best. No bugs, no unfinished storys and no wrong working romaces. Sorry but how should you communicate with someone like that?
They definitely should discuss there. I only created this threads to get the BG3 comments out of the news thread.
The horrible comment was directed at that other user, that called all BG3 fans horrible, sorry, I mixed that up.
I'm pretty active at the Larian forum and people are having a lot of suggestions, like fixing Halsin, who is really creepy as a companion or flesh out act 3 a bit more - I like, what is there, but there were some things, that were triggered in act 1, like and I would love to see that. I don't think, you would have any trouble there. The only problem are - like with every new game (we had that here in the forum too, when DAI was new and probably with ME too) - a lot of new users, that are sometimes quite rude, but the mods are dealing with them very well.
My personal pet peeve is the lack of small races companions, there was a halfling werewolf bard named Helia planned (how cool is that?) and she was axed, probably for Halsin, which is sad. I'm still campaigning for Helia, since Larian is still working to put stuff in.
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Post by wickedcool on Oct 13, 2023 18:24:54 GMT
Also active on the larian forums. Really not seeing this it’s 100% perfect
It’s very very good and clearly up for game of year contender. It’s got bugs to fix and I expect added content. They added a mirror recently like dai and now you can change your name plus you can edit your hirelings appearance
We should be welcoming this! Da4 needs to really come out swinging and draw comparisons to Bg3. It can’t be dai 2.0 with minimal changes in gameplay as a new bar has been set. Most of the community outside these forums want more
For me I want enemies with personality. The opening grunt enemies in Bg3 have just more than any in all of dai including in some ways solas. This was a far departure from origins which had multiple. The dwarf noble origin or dwarf commoner were great and actual bosses such as beraht were memorable!! I want combat with strategy. The only fight that had real strategy in dai was the guardian in descent as it required you to stand in certain spots. The only times you needed a rogue was the few doors that were locked and there was no skill to it (removed from dao) I want real choices like redcliffe in dao. Redcliffe was so big they threw in a cameo in dai. I want the elf mage or werewolves choice etc etc etc
I want real loot in treasure chests instead of hunting 20 lizards in hope u get the special 1 that I can create an axe that will make fighting more tolerable.
Certainly want more clothing choices that are viable. In dai for a warrior you really needed that 1 schematic that made the fight a little easier. Save scumming chests and then running to the nug was only fun when the nug worked
Solas is a fantastic potential enemy as the book is still out as we don’t know his real motivations
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Post by colfoley on Oct 13, 2023 19:27:55 GMT
Also active on the larian forums. Really not seeing this it’s 100% perfect It’s very very good and clearly up for game of year contender. It’s got bugs to fix and I expect added content. They added a mirror recently like dai and now you can change your name plus you can edit your hirelings appearance We should be welcoming this! Da4 needs to really come out swinging and draw comparisons to Bg3. It can’t be dai 2.0 with minimal changes in gameplay as a new bar has been set. Most of the community outside these forums want more For me I want enemies with personality. The opening grunt enemies in Bg3 have just more than any in all of dai including in some ways solas. This was a far departure from origins which had multiple. The dwarf noble origin or dwarf commoner were great and actual bosses such as beraht were memorable!! I want combat with strategy. The only fight that had real strategy in dai was the guardian in descent as it required you to stand in certain spots. The only times you needed a rogue was the few doors that were locked and there was no skill to it (removed from dao) I want real choices like redcliffe in dao. Redcliffe was so big they threw in a cameo in dai. I want the elf mage or werewolves choice etc etc etc I want real loot in treasure chests instead of hunting 20 lizards in hope u get the special 1 that I can create an axe that will make fighting more tolerable. Certainly want more clothing choices that are viable. In dai for a warrior you really needed that 1 schematic that made the fight a little easier. Save scumming chests and then running to the nug was only fun when the nug worked Solas is a fantastic potential enemy as the book is still out as we don’t know his real motivations while I do see a lot of this inquisition had the best use of 'choice' in the entire series and is a shining example in the genre. Can't really say I've seen much from BG 3 so far that compares.
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Post by smilesja on Oct 13, 2023 20:18:46 GMT
Also active on the larian forums. Really not seeing this it’s 100% perfect It’s very very good and clearly up for game of year contender. It’s got bugs to fix and I expect added content. They added a mirror recently like dai and now you can change your name plus you can edit your hirelings appearance We should be welcoming this! Da4 needs to really come out swinging and draw comparisons to Bg3. It can’t be dai 2.0 with minimal changes in gameplay as a new bar has been set. Most of the community outside these forums want more For me I want enemies with personality. The opening grunt enemies in Bg3 have just more than any in all of dai including in some ways solas. This was a far departure from origins which had multiple. The dwarf noble origin or dwarf commoner were great and actual bosses such as beraht were memorable!! I want combat with strategy. The only fight that had real strategy in dai was the guardian in descent as it required you to stand in certain spots. The only times you needed a rogue was the few doors that were locked and there was no skill to it (removed from dao) I want real choices like redcliffe in dao. Redcliffe was so big they threw in a cameo in dai. I want the elf mage or werewolves choice etc etc etc I want real loot in treasure chests instead of hunting 20 lizards in hope u get the special 1 that I can create an axe that will make fighting more tolerable. Certainly want more clothing choices that are viable. In dai for a warrior you really needed that 1 schematic that made the fight a little easier. Save scumming chests and then running to the nug was only fun when the nug worked Solas is a fantastic potential enemy as the book is still out as we don’t know his real motivations If the next DA is like BG3, then I'm done with Bioware. All that support for DA2 and DA:I only for them to go backwards. Maybe I'm just not the right fan for them considering how much people want to go back to the CRPG days. At least I got other games to play.
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Post by witchcocktor on Oct 13, 2023 20:29:31 GMT
I love DA:I to death but BG3 clearly has a lot more in terms of choices and reactivity, but it mostly boils down to '' which person/group do I kill '' or '' good choice/evil choice. '' What DA:I might lack in terms of choices or '' illusion of choice '' and overall reactivity, it makes up for the few choices you do make not have a clear right answer, and while you do not see the consequences of your actions during the game (which is a shame), your choices do shape the world in big ways. I don't think there's anything at all close to Wicked Eyes and Wicked Hearts in BG3, for example.
Honestly, there is probably only one choice in the entire game of BG3 that I feel like will have people debating (fpr years to come) on what is the '' best '' choice, while every big choice you make in DA:I has people still discussing what is the best way to go, in general or for their character. The debate over who should rule Orlais is still to this day really interesting to read.
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Post by colfoley on Oct 13, 2023 20:40:05 GMT
Also active on the larian forums. Really not seeing this it’s 100% perfect It’s very very good and clearly up for game of year contender. It’s got bugs to fix and I expect added content. They added a mirror recently like dai and now you can change your name plus you can edit your hirelings appearance We should be welcoming this! Da4 needs to really come out swinging and draw comparisons to Bg3. It can’t be dai 2.0 with minimal changes in gameplay as a new bar has been set. Most of the community outside these forums want more For me I want enemies with personality. The opening grunt enemies in Bg3 have just more than any in all of dai including in some ways solas. This was a far departure from origins which had multiple. The dwarf noble origin or dwarf commoner were great and actual bosses such as beraht were memorable!! I want combat with strategy. The only fight that had real strategy in dai was the guardian in descent as it required you to stand in certain spots. The only times you needed a rogue was the few doors that were locked and there was no skill to it (removed from dao) I want real choices like redcliffe in dao. Redcliffe was so big they threw in a cameo in dai. I want the elf mage or werewolves choice etc etc etc I want real loot in treasure chests instead of hunting 20 lizards in hope u get the special 1 that I can create an axe that will make fighting more tolerable. Certainly want more clothing choices that are viable. In dai for a warrior you really needed that 1 schematic that made the fight a little easier. Save scumming chests and then running to the nug was only fun when the nug worked Solas is a fantastic potential enemy as the book is still out as we don’t know his real motivations If the next DA is like BG3, then I'm done with Bioware. All that support for DA2 and DA:I only for them to go backwards. Maybe I'm just not the right fan for them considering how much people want to go back to the CRPG days. At least I got other games to play. more I think about this and see from BG III the less likely i think this will be. Not only would this neccitate a probable major rework for Dreadwolf but DA just was never like BG. Sure Origins was called a spiritual successor but the simularities in the game was only paper thin. Learn from the game sure, but it just wouldn't be DA if they ape. I love DA:I to death but BG3 clearly has a lot more in terms of choices and reactivity, but it mostly boils down to '' which person/group do I kill '' or '' good choice/evil choice. '' What DA:I might lack in terms of choices or '' illusion of choice '' and overall reactivity, it makes up for the few choices you do make not have a clear right answer, and while you do not see it in action (which is a shame), your choices do shape the world in big ways. I don't think there's anything at all close to Wicked Eyes and Wicked Hearts in BG3, for example. Honestly, there is probably only one choice in the entire game of BG3 that I feel like will have people debating (fpr years to come) on what is the '' best '' choice, while every big choice you make in DA:I has people still discussing what is the best way to go, in general or for their character. The debate over who should rule Orlais is still to this day really interesting to read. my favorite aspect of Inquisition's choices was the no right answer. Plus, they could've done better, but the game also did change what you could do based on choices. There was some reactivity. Who you chose to rule Orlais appeared in the Arbor wilds and several different war table missions popped up based on your choices as well.
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Post by Gileadan on Oct 14, 2023 8:31:36 GMT
I don't think anyone needs to worry that DAD will be anything like BG3 or any other isometric party based RPG. BioWare has moved away from that gameplay type with every iteration. We'll most likely get a 3rd person action game with some RPG lite elements and barely controllable companions tagging along - some kind of melee / magic focused fantasy Mass Effect, if you will. That's not necessarily a bad thing, it just will be so different from BG3 that a comparison between the two wouldn't make much sense - they'd essentially be different genres.
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Post by vonuber on Oct 14, 2023 9:24:10 GMT
while I do see a lot of this inquisition had the best use of 'choice' in the entire series and is a shining example in the genre. Can't really say I've seen much from BG 3 so far that compares. You can't see any examples of different choices in BG3?
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Post by Sartoz on Oct 14, 2023 10:03:58 GMT
Bio, as of early this year (2023), had moved the aRPG goal posts for DA4, once again and not for the better, imo. The leaked video is proof of this. BG3, on the other hand, is an old fashion CRPG. Wait! It has more. As a BG3 fan, I can choose to play the game in any order.. Go anywhere I want. Plus, with a INT of 10+, my script options open up in conversations. With higher Persuasion / Deception skills I often avoid a fight and some companions give me an approval of +1.... sometimes +5.
I've installed a few MODS for a better QoL. Game pacing is much better.. gone are the tedious long fights. and so are the tactical aspects of combat. In this case, I don't care about the latter. But, this freedom of choice... going anywhere I want in the map (ACT 1) and (ACT 2) does trigger some scripting bugs. Still, char interaction is deep and brings up fond char memories of DA2 and DAO. ... DAI I can do without. BG3 gives me tons and I means tons of mage spells. DAI in comparison had virtually none ( one of my big beefs about the game).
DAO, DA2 and now BG3 are my favourite games, besides the ME series... Hawk, FemShep, Morrigan, Lae'zel, Shadowheart.... memorable chars. DAI? ... nah
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Post by 10k on Oct 14, 2023 11:55:41 GMT
I'm not a "Larian can do no wrong" type of person. I witnessed the release of DOS2, it was full of bugs not even playable for me. But here with BG3, the things they did well, need to be praised. You know why, because no other developer is doing it. Especially when we look at AAA games. The attention to detail, the consequences, the choices, the amount of options is simply done really well, and all these things are lacking in AAA games now. And they didn't even feel the need to add a barren openworld, which was even more of a plus. I personally enjoy Starfield and Cyberpunk. But as AAA RPGs they're lacking. It's 2023 and many AAA companies are billion dollar companies now, there is no excuse. As far as I'm concerned DA ended at Origins. Origins was the only good one, and Dreadwolf won't change that fact. Solas wasn't ever an interesting character, and him as the main antagonist is just meh. Morrigan would have been better, they should have let her take up her mother's mantle.
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Post by RelevantRevenant on Oct 14, 2023 16:39:18 GMT
I'm 90+ hours in and the game has crashed just once on me. I have to say I'm impressed. Also, Ketheric Thorn has become far less threatening enemy after I heard Amelia Tyler say his name with a lisp. Now, I'm officially fighting against Kethhwic Thhowme.
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Post by mousestalker on Oct 14, 2023 17:45:30 GMT
Relevant comparison/rant spotted on Youtube:
NSFW. Also he can not say the word Inquisition.
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Post by smilesja on Oct 14, 2023 20:25:20 GMT
Thank you for showing me a video of the average BG3 fan I've come across. Forget it, I've thought of buying the game but after seeing how crazy the fans are I don't want to. Why join a fanbase who constantly hates on everything you enjoy?
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Post by RelevantRevenant on Oct 14, 2023 20:31:58 GMT
Thank you for showing me a video of the average BG3 fan I've come across. Forget it, I've thought of buying the game but after seeing how crazy the fans are I don't want to. Why join a fanbase who constantly hates on everything you enjoy? I personally just play the game and I'm enjoying myself. I haven't got the foggiest idea about DnD or the previous Baldur's Gate games and apart from looking up advice on progressing in the game, I'm not terribly interested in the fanbase. I would suggest you try playing the game and having fun with it and ignore the rest.
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Post by colfoley on Oct 14, 2023 20:40:54 GMT
Thank you for showing me a video of the average BG3 fan I've come across. Forget it, I've thought of buying the game but after seeing how crazy the fans are I don't want to. Why join a fanbase who constantly hates on everything you enjoy? did you watch the vid? Bit curious if he was having trouble with the pronunciation of the word or if he was refusing for pettier 'do not say Voldemorts name' sort of reasons.
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Post by smilesja on Oct 14, 2023 20:48:18 GMT
Thank you for showing me a video of the average BG3 fan I've come across. Forget it, I've thought of buying the game but after seeing how crazy the fans are I don't want to. Why join a fanbase who constantly hates on everything you enjoy? did you watch the vid? Bit curious if he was having trouble with the pronunciation of the word or if he was refusing for pettier 'do not say Voldemorts name' sort of reasons. No, I've read the clickbait title, and I won't be lectured on how the games I like are inferior to the game that's put on a pedestal. You all can, but I'm not going to repeat my mistake in joining a rabid fanbase who never liked you in the first place.
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Post by githcheater on Oct 14, 2023 21:42:04 GMT
I am not sure why this guy shat on ME2 and Skyrim, and he sure was over the top clickbait, cuz this is the internet. However, I do agree that Bioware peaked with DAO, before ditching the more "complicated" RPG elements, in favor of homogenization, action and fetch quests.
There are plenty of games that I could be put on a pedastal if the baseline is the the merely very good DAI: Planescape Torment, BG, BG2, KotOR, KotOR2 NWN2, Skyrim, Witcher 3, Shadow of Mordor, and Disco Elysium.
I am getting tired of the Bioware can do no wrong crowd who think DAO is subpar, but I suppose I am ruder than the whiners who want to squelch discussion/comparisons to Dragon Age, and cannot accept that other studios make excellent games.
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Post by river82 on Oct 14, 2023 21:52:40 GMT
Thank you for showing me a video of the average BG3 fan I've come across. Forget it, I've thought of buying the game but after seeing how crazy the fans are I don't want to. Why join a fanbase who constantly hates on everything you enjoy? did you watch the vid? Bit curious if he was having trouble with the pronunciation of the word or if he was refusing for pettier 'do not say Voldemorts name' sort of reasons. He mispronounced Larian also (as Lorian). He said in the comments he'll work on it in future vids.
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