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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 10, 2024 6:50:02 GMT
*goes to watch it for the sixth time* Fourth for me. A lot easier and enjoyable now knowing this isn’t representative of the tone of the game.
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Post by Gileadan on Jun 10, 2024 6:59:56 GMT
Yet they went with that trailer first and there's no second chance for first impressions. Sometimes marketing is gonna do a poop. Sadly, Dragon Age is no stranger to this and the devs don't seem to have that much power to decide versus what marketing says based on whatever graphs they cooked up with focus groups. Very true. I can just imagine some fresh marketing yo-yo with a Powerpoint presentation tell everyone what their trailer should be like. I still have hope for the gameplay trailer but this one didn't do them many favours.
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Post by Croatsky on Jun 10, 2024 7:22:20 GMT
So trailer is being brigaded, likes/dislike to views ratio is very inorganic.
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Post by Croatsky on Jun 10, 2024 7:30:22 GMT
I don't have the extension but I've seen (on ResetEra) that it's like 1:3 or 1:4, likes to dislikes. So, 1 like for every 3 dislikes, if so OUCH. I know I was a bit negative, but I didn't dislike the trailer. It's brigaded.
Trailer hasn't hit 1 million views as of writing this, but somehow has almost 150k likes and dislikes?
Yeah no, that is not organic response.
To compare, 2020 teaser has slightly less views than this trailer, but has about as many likes? Don't have extension to see dislikes, but I'm very sure it doesn't have 100k plus dislikes.
No this trailer is being blatantly brigaded.
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Post by river82 on Jun 10, 2024 7:33:16 GMT
Finally gave it a looksie after seeing some word on it from twitter. Figured I’d hop on here to see what people are thinking as well even though I’m rarely here anymore. Gotta agree with the camp that the art style is not that good and is even worse than what inquisition was. Graphics look better than ever but the art style though meh. Hopefully the reveal on the 11th wows me because BioWare hasn’t done anything like that since inquisition. It’s kind of their last harrah for me as well since I’ve lost hope with them and mass effect. Edit: and since this is just a trailer, hopefully the art style shown here isn’t what translates into game. We’ll see. Funnily enough while Bioware has never been great at graphics but their art style has always been great. And you know what? I don't think the art style is a problem, I think the way it was presented, with the flashy massive purple/green writing introductions made it feel very Fortnitey. Very Apexy. Very mobiley. For example, I think this looks really good: But I think this is pretty mobile heroey: And I prefer David Bowie's more nuanced rendition of We Can Be Heroes rather than the one dimensional, too cheery version running in the background.
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Post by Croatsky on Jun 10, 2024 8:06:08 GMT
Veilguard cinematic trailer is 8th most watch Dragon Age channel video, tying with Inquisition Hinterlands E3 gameplay trailer. It is certain to be 6th most watched video before end of the day, 4th by Tuesday. Might become 2nd most viewed by end of the week, as Inquisition The Breach trailer accumulated too many views in 9 years to be beaten in short term.
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Post by NotN7 on Jun 10, 2024 8:18:30 GMT
Artwork and presentation aside it's nice to know who our Compians are going to be so we can quit getting our hopes up and guessing who they will be.
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Post by Absafraginlootly on Jun 10, 2024 9:05:03 GMT
Well i enjoyed the trailer, and getting to find out who all 7 of the companions are was more than I'd hoped for.
I don't care about the trailer song or the title cards, that's just trailer stuff that's never in the game or movie it's for, so i couldn't care less about them either way.
Won't know how the faces/animations really are until seeing in game footage since cinematic/made in engine trailers always seem to mess with that too.
But the action/personality scenes with each companion? Those were the meat of the trailer, and they were fantastic!
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Jun 10, 2024 9:05:44 GMT
Wow… I can’t believe they did it…. I mean, I know my bar was so low it is underground, but still… This was way worse than I even imagined. Yeah. Very different from all the other teasers too but teasers are not to be trusted. The tone and feel is way different. Not impressed by it.
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Post by Mresa on Jun 10, 2024 9:07:51 GMT
Aight been a while since I've been on this board but to the main business.
I admit, I'm not very hyped by this trailer. Sure 10 years is a long time to wait for a sequal but man, I really wish I was more excited. Hopefully the showcase tomorrow is more exciting.
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Post by dazk on Jun 10, 2024 10:15:56 GMT
EDIT: does it look like they have made her forehead smaller even taking into account the different hairstyle and changed the shape of her face as well? They seemed to have narrowed the jawline and maybe made her cheekbones larger. Her forehead looks smaller because she has a decent hairline now. The majority of hairstyles in DAI had comically receding hairlines, even the ones that were masked as having a large amount of hair put in braids, like Harding's hairstyle. Still not over all the male pattern baldness and widow's peaks. I did say taking into account her change of hair style.
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Post by colfoley on Jun 10, 2024 10:28:05 GMT
You know what the most galling thing about the whole 'its Cartoony' as a perjerative is? Like I get the connotation here and get why it exists but as with most surface level generalizations it really falls apart very quickly. Much like fist impressions. Like there are plenty of dark cartoons/ animes out there. Plenty of adult stuff out there. Or plenty of 'kids' cartoons/ animes that also deal with adult themes, subject matter, and presentation.
Heck when you get down to it VIdeo Games have always been a sort of animation in the first place as well.
But the list can go on:
Digimon. Dragonball. Death Note. The Adult Anime we've seen. Absolution.
As far as ridicilious kind of off beat humor I present for your consideration:
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Post by Grog Muffins on Jun 10, 2024 10:33:04 GMT
Her forehead looks smaller because she has a decent hairline now. The majority of hairstyles in DAI had comically receding hairlines, even the ones that were masked as having a large amount of hair put in braids, like Harding's hairstyle. Still not over all the male pattern baldness and widow's peaks. I did say taking into account her change of hair style. I don't know, to me it looks like it's just the hairline and some weirdness from the art style. If people who played it behind closed doors yesterday are to be believed, the art style in the game is actually closer to DAI than what this trailer showed. I guess we'll know for sure tomorrow.
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Post by wright1978 on Jun 10, 2024 10:58:13 GMT
Rook is confirmed! Veilguard! Urghhh i think i want to be sick. I wasn't really a fan of continuing the whole inquisition branding but i'd even prefer that to this rubbish of trying to create a cool edgy named group. Don't mind the name rook though.
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Post by colfoley on Jun 10, 2024 11:08:22 GMT
Speaking of another fan theory that I forgot to mention in all this is...well wonder if the group attacking Harding and Varic in the beginning are working for Solas somehow? Harding did say "I don't think we can do this alone" old friend which does suggest a connection.
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Post by Croatsky on Jun 10, 2024 11:13:38 GMT
Rook is confirmed! Veilguard! Urghhh i think i want to be sick. I wasn't really a fan of continuing the whole inquisition branding but i'd even prefer that to this rubbish of trying to create a cool edgy named group. Don't mind the name rook though. How in the world the Veilguard an edgy name???
Veil is a thing and it is clear their objective is to protect the Veil against Solas and other threats. It's a simple to the point name.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jun 10, 2024 11:16:33 GMT
Yeah I do believe tha tBiowaer needs this gam et osucceed otherwise the ylikely are dead as I don' tthink EA will be patient any longer. The yhav etargets tha tthe ywill need t ohi tthis time if they are to survive long enough t omake the next ME. But one thing I never do is judge a game before seeing it in action. Personally I like what I'm hearing abou tth egame so far. Bu tlik ewih how it i sw eneed moer inffo before we can fairtl yjudge it but I am hopeful though given DA as a series is in a better plac eatm than ME is. Because I think if ME was the nex tgam ethe ylikely woul db edead given ho wdivided th efanbase i son where the ythink ME shoul dgo next. Wherea sDA is I think in a good spot so should be easier to ge ta goo dgam eout that will be a grea tsequel to DAI I agree with most of this. But the irony is that it's doing things EA wanted which got Bio into trouble in the first place. Prehaps but EA own them now so they have no choic ebu tt odo it and hop eit's successful. All ewcan do is hope they pull iy off. They need this t obe a win othrewise no more Bioware sothey need t opull somethin gof the leve lo fDAI ou ttheir ass withthis game if they areto survive. The good nwes here though is EA have been pretty hands off with this one though I think as they have had plenty of time t owork on it. So i fthis ends up a screwup then it's 100% on Bioware after all we've heard practically nothing from Bioware since Anthem go tshut down. For me I thin kthis is the reason why theyknow they'er walking a tightrope atm and need to keep their balance otherwise the wolves will ea tthem up. Veilguard has to be viewed a success otherwise they'er gone.
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Post by Croatsky on Jun 10, 2024 11:20:25 GMT
Speaking of another fan theory that I forgot to mention in all this is...well wonder if the group attacking Harding and Varic in the beginning are working for Solas somehow? Harding did say "I don't think we can do this alone" old friend which does suggest a connection. In the Missing, Varrick does meet Neve and Lucanis. As well BioWare posted a screenshot of starting area, where we see Neve as your companion along with Harding.
Lucanis may be an option from the start too, or at least recruited in this mission.
So probably not seeking help of Solas, just Varric considering Neve( a detective that knows Minrathous) and Lucanis( is in the area) for aid.
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Post by colfoley on Jun 10, 2024 11:23:10 GMT
Speaking of another fan theory that I forgot to mention in all this is...well wonder if the group attacking Harding and Varic in the beginning are working for Solas somehow? Harding did say "I don't think we can do this alone" old friend which does suggest a connection. In the Missing, Varrick does meet Neve and Lucanis. As well BioWare posted a screenshot of starting area, where we see Neve as your companion along with Harding.
Lucanis may be an option from the start too, or at least recruited in this mission.
So probably not seeking help of Solas, just Varric considering Neve( a detective that knows Minrathous) and Lucanis( is in the area) for aid.
I think you missed my insinuation. They aren't trying to get the help of the group attacking them just acknolowding that they are going to need help stopping Solas when fighting the group. Which suggests they could be related. Good thought about the starting area though. I was wondering for the longest time if we were going to start IN Minrathous then work our way out to the other areas or start ih the other areas and work our way into Tevinter. Mind you I am hoping in this case that the game comes full circle because I really would die if the final epic battle of the game took place in Minrathous, the Arlathan forest, or both.
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Post by Absafraginlootly on Jun 10, 2024 11:28:41 GMT
Speaking of another fan theory that I forgot to mention in all this is...well wonder if the group attacking Harding and Varic in the beginning are working for Solas somehow? Harding did say "I don't think we can do this alone" old friend which does suggest a connection. In the Missing, Varrick does meet Neve and Lucanis. As well BioWare posted a screenshot of starting area, where we see Neve as your companion along with Harding.
Lucanis may be an option from the start too, or at least recruited in this mission.
So probably not seeking help of Solas, just Varric considering Neve( a detective that knows Minrathous) and Lucanis( is in the area) for aid.
Varric didn't meet Lucanis in the missing, the crows he met were Teia and Viago.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jun 10, 2024 11:29:37 GMT
Veilguard! Urghhh i think i want to be sick. I wasn't really a fan of continuing the whole inquisition branding but i'd even prefer that to this rubbish of trying to create a cool edgy named group. Don't mind the name rook though. How in the world the Veilguard an edgy name???
Veil is a thing and it is clear their objective is to protect the Veil against Solas and other threats. It's a simple to the point name.
Yeah that's kind of how I viwe it they'er no tout to get Solas bu tto protec twha tremains o fthe veil from Solas given it's already likely in a weakened state after the events o fDAI. Because en do fth eda ywe onl ysealed all th ebreaches no ts omuch fixed the veil as I don't think we knew back then onl yperson wh odoes i sSolas and he was never going t ogive awa ythose secrets knowin gwha this plans were. Only other person who likely knew was Mythal/Flemeth.
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Post by Grog Muffins on Jun 10, 2024 11:32:15 GMT
Speaking of another fan theory that I forgot to mention in all this is...well wonder if the group attacking Harding and Varic in the beginning are working for Solas somehow? Harding did say "I don't think we can do this alone" old friend which does suggest a connection. In the Missing, Varrick does meet Neve and Lucanis. As well BioWare posted a screenshot of starting area, where we see Neve as your companion along with Harding.
Lucanis may be an option from the start too, or at least recruited in this mission.
So probably not seeking help of Solas, just Varric considering Neve( a detective that knows Minrathous) and Lucanis( is in the area) for aid.
Really, Lucanis was in The Missing? I didn't read it, only saw summaries so maybe they left out him being there. I know Varric and Harding meet Viago and Teia as Crows contacts, maybe someone confused Viago for Lucanis? Also, at that point Lucanis was supposedly dead but maybe Viago and Teia know that he's not. The short story with Illario mourning him made it seem that maybe they knew and were conflicted about withholding that information from Illario. Neve makes sense as a starter companion. If we start in Minrathous, Harding will be the first companion on account of possibly asking for our help, Varric is also there, and we might need to speak to Neve to get some information since she's operating in Minrathous. Maybe Varric doesn't make it out of Minrathous or has to split with us to go and... uhm, do something elsewhere, I don't know.
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Post by wright1978 on Jun 10, 2024 11:32:27 GMT
Veilguard! Urghhh i think i want to be sick. I wasn't really a fan of continuing the whole inquisition branding but i'd even prefer that to this rubbish of trying to create a cool edgy named group. Don't mind the name rook though. How in the world the Veilguard an edgy name???
Veil is a thing and it is clear their objective is to protect the Veil against Solas and other threats. It's a simple to the point name.
Glad this new lot weren't in charge of Origins. The Warden wouldn't have been able to leave the wilds until they'd held a focus group to decide a name and PR campaign for the party.
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Post by The Elder King on Jun 10, 2024 11:39:59 GMT
How in the world the Veilguard an edgy name???
Veil is a thing and it is clear their objective is to protect the Veil against Solas and other threats. It's a simple to the point name.
Glad this new lot weren't in charge of Origins. The Warden wouldn't have been able to leave the wilds until they'd held a focus group to decide a name and PR campaign for the party. I don’t see the big issue with this group having a name, or being part of an organization, which will likely be created in a different way then what the trailer suggested. It’s also a different situation from Origins, since the one that we’re tasked with actually stopping the Blight were only the protagonist and Alistar, who are part of an organization with a name. The party in this game will be all tasked with the game goal in mind. I do get *why* naming the group could bother some people, although I’d say that the inspiration could be closer to the genre Dragon Age was originally inspired to.
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Post by wright1978 on Jun 10, 2024 11:46:15 GMT
"A creative and romantic veil jumper obsessed with uncovering ancient secrets"
Ahh so Peebee then
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