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Post by Croatsky on Jun 19, 2024 10:22:00 GMT
So... it seems like they had this idea of Solas-Rook connection since at least 2016.
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Post by colfoley on Jun 19, 2024 10:24:15 GMT
So... it seems like they had this idea of Solas-Rook connection since at least 2016. other great part of villain writing one oh one, make sure to try and connect your protagonist and antagonist as much as possible, not a neccessity but certainly something that is recommended. Something that they did a pretty good job with the Inquisitor and Corypheus in hindsight, but Ryder and the Archon never really felt that related to one another.
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Post by fistoffiori on Jun 19, 2024 10:35:45 GMT
This coverage has given me choice paralysis haha.
I was going to go Rogue, my first/canon Inquisitor was one and fun to play plus the gameplay reveal last week made Rogue look fun in DATV.
But the Mage in DATV has Spellblade which says to me it could be similar in aspects to Knight Enchanter, and what with confirmation of being able to swap loadouts on the fly mid-battle, specifying Mages can use daggers or similar in a second loadout? I might mage up! Knight Enchanter was fun in DAI in another playthrough and myself and Viv became almost tanky mages haha.
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Post by Croatsky on Jun 19, 2024 10:49:40 GMT
other great part of villain writing one oh one, make sure to try and connect your protagonist and antagonist as much as possible, not a neccessity but certainly something that is recommended. Something that they did a pretty good job with the Inquisitor and Corypheus in hindsight, but Ryder and the Archon never really felt that related to one another. True, but I do appreciate what they did with Archon, because it benefited Kett as a whole. It made this army of alien zelots a lot more complex than they seem. Interestingly even in-universe Archon might still be alive, his mind stuck somewhere in Meridian. Same is speculated with Corypheus, just that he is stuck somewhere in the Fade.
Just who knows what will happen with them both in future? Corypheus could appear as cameo in DAVG, just in far weaker state. While NME is unclear with how Andromeda and Milky Way will connect as of yet.
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Post by colfoley on Jun 19, 2024 10:51:18 GMT
other great part of villain writing one oh one, make sure to try and connect your protagonist and antagonist as much as possible, not a neccessity but certainly something that is recommended. Something that they did a pretty good job with the Inquisitor and Corypheus in hindsight, but Ryder and the Archon never really felt that related to one another. True, but I do appreciate what they did with Archon, because it benefited Kett as a whole. It made this army of alien zelots a lot more complex than they seem. Interestingly even in-universe Archon might still be alive, his mind stuck somewhere in Meridian. Same is speculated with Corypheus, just that he is stuck somewhere in the Fade.
Just who knows what will happen with them both in future? Corypheus could appear as cameo in DAVG, just in far weaker state. While NME is unclear with how Andromeda and Milky Way will connect as of yet.
The idea did occur to me now that Solas is stuck in there, if Cory is stuck in there too maybe Cory can come pay him a visit...torment each other in their respective Fade prisons.
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Post by fistoffiori on Jun 19, 2024 11:06:19 GMT
other great part of villain writing one oh one, make sure to try and connect your protagonist and antagonist as much as possible, not a neccessity but certainly something that is recommended. Something that they did a pretty good job with the Inquisitor and Corypheus in hindsight, but Ryder and the Archon never really felt that related to one another. True, but I do appreciate what they did with Archon, because it benefited Kett as a whole. It made this army of alien zelots a lot more complex than they seem. Interestingly even in-universe Archon might still be alive, his mind stuck somewhere in Meridian. Same is speculated with Corypheus, just that he is stuck somewhere in the Fade.
Just who knows what will happen with them both in future? Corypheus could appear as cameo in DAVG, just in far weaker state. While NME is unclear with how Andromeda and Milky Way will connect as of yet.
Hmm, on this I kinda like the idea of Corypheus living in the Fade without a physical form. Ultimately powerless in both the Fade and Thedas but able to torment.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 19, 2024 11:38:36 GMT
If we're not fighting the Evanuris all at once, then we can expect that the most powerful will be the one that we fight last. If elven legend is taken at face value, then that should be Elgar'nan, and yet we're facing him first. We're also facing Ghillain'Nan first, so that also rules out her as the most powerful. For me that mean the other are already dead or somewhere else. My understanding from watching one of the You Tube videos analysing what was going on in that final scene (before the latest article) suggested that Solas was transferring/killing the gods in turn as evidenced by a beam lighting up on each statue (turns out he was transferring them). The last two that had not yet lit up were the one relating to Elgar'nan and the other relating to Ghilan'nain. If their theory was correct, then he had already transferred the "lesser" gods and left these two until last as they were the most dangerous. Then we interrupted the prison transfer process so they are now free. Unless they choose to find a way to release the other ones, I'm guessing they are safely locked away for the present, although I suppose it is possible they might try to make contact through the Fade. Since the voice connected with Rivain was extolling the risen gods, either they both go there or Ghil makes it her first port of call, since she does seem to have strong connection with the sea. Then I imagine down into the Deep Roads to reignite her pools and start monster creation again. Meanwhile, Elgar'nan is likely going to head off for the other side of Thedas, perhaps to the Anderfels, although I would have thought the Grand Necropolis would have been his logical stop, if he can control the undead. Although I thought that would have been more appropriate to Falon'Din. However, I think Elgar'nan is more likely to be seen on the surface rather than the Deep Roads. That is why the dwarves didn't dare come to the surface in ancient times, because Elgar'nan was patrolling the skies. He was associated with thunder and lightning and there was reported to be a gathering storm near Weisshaupt.
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Post by azarhal on Jun 19, 2024 11:50:37 GMT
Since this is where we talks about the mag spoilers. Anyone spotted that they mentioned a Veil Bubble during Bellara's quest and that the Lighthouse is in a pocked dimension in the Fade. Looks like the Veil is magic that was used to create pocket dimensions that don't get altered all the time in the Fade, but you also can't pass through them so you need magic to breach them or setup up an Eluvian.
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Post by theascendent on Jun 19, 2024 12:33:39 GMT
I wonder if we have to fight the Evanuris. Would it be possible to play them against one another and defeat the weakened victor, or would the collateral damage from their clash be too much for Thedas? We saw how Fen'Harel absorbed Mythal's power after 'defeating' her, so instead of two weakened 'gods' we could accidentally have one strong enough to do irreparable damage. I wonder how Mythal will get involved now that her Ex is up and about, and how the Well of Sorrows will impact the recipient.
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Post by Faye on Jun 19, 2024 12:40:32 GMT
Come to think of it I've never thought of Solas from a perspective of not romancing him. He must be insufferable for those who want nothing to do with him!! Sike now he can haunt your dreams and give you advice If we actually get to roleplay, it’s much more a curse for him than for us. He’ll be stuck alone in the Fade with the only person he can talk to being like this: That was beautiful I actually spit my tea on my infants head
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 19, 2024 12:43:17 GMT
Ghil'Dirthalen raised an interesting snippet in her latest video referring back to Awakening and the supposed monuments to Mafereth, including one that had been decorated by the darkspawn, almost as though they were honouring it, which appears to depict a figure with horns growing out of him. (I can't seem to find a copy that will reproduce here). So, the alleged Maferath has horns growing out of his body and he betrayed his wife Andraste. Elgar'nan has horns growing out of his body and he betrayed his consort (wife?) Mythal. Coincidence? Also, when someone has been cuckolded by their wife taking a lover, they are said to have been given horns. Hmm.
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Post by Faye on Jun 19, 2024 12:43:23 GMT
I also adore Solas's character but he isn't a good person, not in the least. He may think he is but he is doing what he feels is in the best interest of everyone without any insight that it is indeed not what everyone wants. I love characters like this, you either love them or want to kill them, beautiful writing.
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Post by helios969 on Jun 19, 2024 12:44:57 GMT
I wonder if we have to fight the Evanuris. Would it be possible to play them against one another and defeat the weakened victor, or would the collateral damage from their clash be too much for Thedas? We saw how Fen'Harel absorbed Mythal's power after 'defeating' her, so instead of two weakened 'gods' we could accidentally have one strong enough to do irreparable damage. I wonder how Mythal will get involved now that her Ex is up and about, and how the Well of Sorrows will impact the recipient. Turning them against one another would be an effective strategy...if Bio will allow it. At this point I'm of the opinion it's much too dangerous to let any of them live. Kill...every...last...one.
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Post by wright1978 on Jun 19, 2024 13:08:39 GMT
Its on the website as well where you can read it for free. Also we don't know how the connection to the Fade is going to work or what the 'powers' (if any) there are going to be. Could end up being much more of a burden then a cure this time out. Plus that is kind of what advisors do and Ryder was plenty competent on his own, SAM just helped with translation. I am not a fan of the connection with the fade and Solas as voice, kind of advisior. I don't like this in other games and i don't like it here, but what so ever. I will life with it. Bringing back horrible vibes of the shockingly bad dream sequences from Mass Effect 3. Not looking forward to the torture of being haunted by that butcher and being unable to murder knife his physical body.
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Post by The Loyal Nub on Jun 19, 2024 13:16:20 GMT
So question...if the Grey Wardens could defeat the archdemons through the ingestion of darkspawn blood does this mean a grey warden could theoretically bring down these blight tainted elder gods and if we think about our companions we see where I may be going with this...
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Post by Little Bengel on Jun 19, 2024 14:13:01 GMT
Interesting how it's mentioned in the article that Rook is no one special with no secret McGuffin at their disposal but they go on and reveal that Rook's blood got mixed in with the ritual and they're forever connected to the fade. So Rook is special, just like the inquisitor was. Inquisition 2.0? Yeah big LOL. I was happy for a hot minute Rook would be like Hawke again, a normal badass person, only to learn that it's the magical hand all over again, just slightly different. The inquisitor was so lame, Ryder was so lame because they were aided by something and didn't feel confident and competent at all. Hell, inky had to ask the advisors to tell them what to do all the time. And Ryder had SAM to babysit him. Godawful. Give me Shepard who's a decorated soldier but a normal person up until the ME3 ending made them space Jesus. I get a strong space Jesus vibe from Rook being connected to the fade here too. If they'll be the key to synthesis again I'm laughing my ass off. Way you're mentioning Shepard there, I would remind you that they were technically special in a way, by virtue of having Prothean fuckery beamed into their head at the start of ME1. So... yeah.
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Post by eternalgoddess on Jun 19, 2024 14:16:27 GMT
I am very surprised that Elgar'nan is the male Evanuris. He's supposedly their leader and the most powerful, so logically he would be fought last. Maybe their hierarchy is different than what elven legend says, or maybe one of the others was pulling a "man-behind-the-man" gambit and is actually even more powerful. Dumat was the strongest Old God and he was the 1st one killed.
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Post by q5tyhj on Jun 19, 2024 14:22:48 GMT
This coverage has given me choice paralysis haha. always a good problem to have imo, i.e. if there are enough choices that are attractive enough that you have a genuine dilemma you usually can't go wrong with whatever you pick
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Post by q5tyhj on Jun 19, 2024 14:23:43 GMT
I am very surprised that Elgar'nan is the male Evanuris. He's supposedly their leader and the most powerful, so logically he would be fought last. Maybe their hierarchy is different than what elven legend says, or maybe one of the others was pulling a "man-behind-the-man" gambit and is actually even more powerful. Dumat was the strongest Old God and he was the 1st one killed. yeah there's a lot more to the equation than an individuals strength in a fight- how intelligent are they? how charismatic are they, do they compel the allegiance of powerful allies? etc.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Jun 19, 2024 14:28:47 GMT
Yeah big LOL. I was happy for a hot minute Rook would be like Hawke again, a normal badass person, only to learn that it's the magical hand all over again, just slightly different. The inquisitor was so lame, Ryder was so lame because they were aided by something and didn't feel confident and competent at all. Hell, inky had to ask the advisors to tell them what to do all the time. And Ryder had SAM to babysit him. Godawful. Give me Shepard who's a decorated soldier but a normal person up until the ME3 ending made them space Jesus. I get a strong space Jesus vibe from Rook being connected to the fade here too. If they'll be the key to synthesis again I'm laughing my ass off. Way you're mentioning Shepard there, I would remind you that they were technically special in a way, by virtue of having Prothean fuckery beamed into their head at the start of ME1. So... yeah. True, haha, but it wasn't any special power that gave them any real skill or combat advantage. Basically just kick-started the story. Shepard saved the galaxy by being one hell of a soldier and leader. Didn't get super wonky until adding Shep's unexplained special essence to the beam to do magic stuff. But we'll see just how much the fade connection gives Rook special powers. I'll be happy if they're a believable charismatic leader more in line with Hawke than inky.
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Post by asen0311 on Jun 19, 2024 14:35:19 GMT
Need quick clarification on something (I was reading the article on desktop yesterday and the damn PDF would NOT zoom in) - are the released Evanuris still in the Fade with Solas or are they in the physical world? Lore brain was like huh what.
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Post by Reznore on Jun 19, 2024 14:37:01 GMT
Need quick clarification on something (I was reading the article on desktop yesterday and the damn PDF would NOT zoom in) - are the released Evanuris still in the Fade with Solas or are they in the physical world? Lore brain was like huh what. Solas is trapped (lol) the other 2 lunatics are out in Thedas living their best lives.
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Post by asen0311 on Jun 19, 2024 14:39:46 GMT
Need quick clarification on something (I was reading the article on desktop yesterday and the damn PDF would NOT zoom in) - are the released Evanuris still in the Fade with Solas or are they in the physical world? Lore brain was like huh what. Solas is trapped (lol) the other 2 lunatics are out in Thedas living their best lives. LOL thank you. I'm still a little disappointed one is Elgar'nan but it doesn't matter because my queen Ghilly is free to wreak havoc I guess.
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Post by RelevantRevenant on Jun 19, 2024 15:52:37 GMT
Also, the way we apparently meet Stride and Irelin at Arlathan Forest makes me think the people from The Missing might pop up in their relevant (heh) areas. Say, we go to Rivain Antiva and meet more Crows or something to that effect. Stride? Strife! Ungh I knew I misspelled his name... And in my original post I forgot where the Antivan Crows are from... Anyhow, I made a little list of the people and where they are in the comic 'The Missing'. Evka Ivo & Antoine (Grey Wardens): the Deep Roads Strife & Irelin (Veil Jumpers): the Arlathan Forest Teia & Viago (Antivan Crows): Vyrantium/Antiva Neve Gallus (the Shadow Dragons): Minrathous We meet Neve in Minrathous in the beginning of the game as per the gameplay demo and the Game Informer article tells us that we meet Strife and Irelin at Arlathan. It doesn't have to mean anything, but it does make me wonder if we'll also meet the Wardens and the Crows as well. After all, it seems plausible that we go to these locations in the game.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 19, 2024 16:01:28 GMT
Dumat was the strongest Old God and he was the 1st one killed. Not necessarily. He was just the one that was behind the assault on the Black City. That could have been because he had the strongest Fade presence but not necessarily the strongest one on the outside. Razikale is likely very strong. Whatever magic her priesthood used (which I admit was probably utilising earlier elven magic) resulted in a city that has never fallen to an invading force in Minrathous. She was both patron of the city and of the Kingdom of Tevinter itself. So far as I can tell the Neromenians weren't able to conquer Tevinter either. It was only when Darinius returned to claim his birthright that it was combined with the southern kingdom. Meanwhile, if the Old Gods were presenting in order of descending order of importance, Lucasan would be the last man standing. That suggests more an ascending order of importance to me. So, Dumat came first because he was at the bottom of the pecking order. Naturally, that would make him eager to improve his status by being the one whose priesthood breached the seal on the Black City. Shadow and darkness finally triumph over all in an endless night. What did Corypheus say they found in the Black City? The Darkness, which they absorbed, so it seems to me to be another way of describing the Blight. So Lusacan is the God of the Blight, likely immune to its effects in so much as it doesn't send him crazy. He wanted a world totally infected with it, so it was totally subservient to him. No, he is definitely the most powerful of the Old Gods.
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