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Post by Envisionary on Jul 4, 2024 15:55:23 GMT
This talk of future games and DA5 made me realize it's not something I want. If the series were to end here with the finale of Solas and the stakes being the highest they supposedly can be, I'd be fine with that. I certainly don't have 10 more years of waiting to answer any questions raised by this one, especially when we seem to be tackling so much in 4.
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Post by themikefest on Jul 4, 2024 16:00:21 GMT
Mustadmit I anm wondering wha ttoday's article will be assuming w eaer getting one today I know it's off topic but at this point I have to ask Are you using some kind of text editor or something? Because all of your posts are mangled and I think it might be one of my extensions making them look that way. Just a heads up. The poster has a disability. He has mentioned this a couple of times in the time I've known him. Taking a few extra seconds to know what he posted won't hurt.
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Post by Envisionary on Jul 4, 2024 16:14:01 GMT
Ah I see, I'll just delete the question then.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 4, 2024 17:01:56 GMT
This talk of future games and DA5 made me realize it's not something I want. If the series were to end here with the finale of Solas and the stakes being the highest they supposedly can be, I'd be fine with that. I certainly don't have 10 more years of waiting to answer any questions raised by this one, especially when we seem to be tackling so much in 4.
Yeah I'd prefer they left i there at the end of this game especiall yafter making us have to wait a decade for part 2
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Post by The Pluto Lounge on Jul 4, 2024 18:31:59 GMT
This talk of future games and DA5 made me realize it's not something I want. If the series were to end here with the finale of Solas and the stakes being the highest they supposedly can be, I'd be fine with that. I certainly don't have 10 more years of waiting to answer any questions raised by this one, especially when we seem to be tackling so much in 4.
Please no more ending on a cliffhanger... I'm cool with there being a DA5, just not in Thedas. Start a new chapter with a clean slate, similar to Andromeda (in theory).
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Post by colfoley on Jul 4, 2024 18:57:14 GMT
I don't know DA has never ended on a cliffhanger before so I really don't see that happening in VG in relation to DA 5 wherever they take the franchise. There may be other places they'll take the story and hooks they'll leave for future writers can pick up but like Trespasser, 2, and Origins there will be no cliffhanger.
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Post by themikefest on Jul 4, 2024 19:04:59 GMT
I don't know DA has never ended on a cliffhanger before so I really don't see that happening in VG in relation to DA 5 wherever they take the franchise. There may be other places they'll take the story and hooks they'll leave for future writers can pick up but like Trespasser, 2, and Origins there will be no cliffhanger. A game could take place before the events of DAO. I wouldn't mind playing during the times of Andraste. Maybe do another game like DA2 except not have repetitive scenery. I'm sure Bioware has an idea of what they want to do for the game after this one.
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Post by OhDaniGirl on Jul 4, 2024 19:09:41 GMT
I don't know DA has never ended on a cliffhanger before so I really don't see that happening in VG in relation to DA 5 wherever they take the franchise. There may be other places they'll take the story and hooks they'll leave for future writers can pick up but like Trespasser, 2, and Origins there will be no cliffhanger. Maybe for you. I've been waiting nearly 10 years for the resolution to the Trespasser cliffhanger.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 4, 2024 19:24:42 GMT
This talk of future games and DA5 made me realize it's not something I want. If the series were to end here with the finale of Solas and the stakes being the highest they supposedly can be, I'd be fine with that. I certainly don't have 10 more years of waiting to answer any questions raised by this one, especially when we seem to be tackling so much in 4.
Please no more ending on a cliffhanger... I'm cool with there being a DA5, just not in Thedas. Start a new chapter with a clean slate, similar to Andromeda (in theory). Yeah I'm ok with mayb ea minor thread bein gin to potentiall ylead into a nwe stor ys long as it's nothing too big to leave the stor ybeing left undone like Andromeda's was. Als o i fyou aer going to leave threads leading to new stories make sure you're going t oget the chance to do i tvia any DLC you release.
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Post by colfoley on Jul 4, 2024 19:24:44 GMT
I don't know DA has never ended on a cliffhanger before so I really don't see that happening in VG in relation to DA 5 wherever they take the franchise. There may be other places they'll take the story and hooks they'll leave for future writers can pick up but like Trespasser, 2, and Origins there will be no cliffhanger. Maybe for you. I've been waiting nearly 10 years for the resolution to the Trespasser cliffhanger. I've been waiting ten years too but if Trespasser is a cliffhanger then has each DA game ended on a cliffhanger? Did SG-1? Any of the Trek series? Star Wars? How far do we want to stretch things because if Trespasser was a cliffhanger then so is pretty much any ending which includes some vague promise of further adventure.
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Post by The Pluto Lounge on Jul 4, 2024 19:25:00 GMT
I don't know DA has never ended on a cliffhanger before so I really don't see that happening in VG in relation to DA 5 wherever they take the franchise. There may be other places they'll take the story and hooks they'll leave for future writers can pick up but like Trespasser, 2, and Origins there will be no cliffhanger. Maybe for you. I've been waiting nearly 10 years for the resolution to the Trespasser cliffhanger. I know right? Not to mention the mage rebellion in DA2 and Corypheus in the DA2 dlc.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 4, 2024 19:27:43 GMT
I don't know DA has never ended on a cliffhanger before so I really don't see that happening in VG in relation to DA 5 wherever they take the franchise. There may be other places they'll take the story and hooks they'll leave for future writers can pick up but like Trespasser, 2, and Origins there will be no cliffhanger. Maybe for you. I've been waiting nearly 10 years for the resolution to the Trespasser cliffhanger. I think we al;l hav eand hopefull yVeilguard is it. I tcretainl ylooks like it asnyway.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 4, 2024 19:37:10 GMT
Maybe for you. I've been waiting nearly 10 years for the resolution to the Trespasser cliffhanger. I've been waiting ten years too but if Trespasser is a cliffhanger then has each DA game ended on a cliffhanger? Did SG-1? Any of the Trek series? Star Wars? How far do we want to stretch things because if Trespasser was a cliffhanger then so is pretty much any ending which includes some vague promise of further adventure. Maybe no once the series ended but certainl yfrom one season goin into the nex tthe ydid. 2 of m yfavourites bein when Picard was transformed int oLocutus an din DS9 when th eFederation were forced t oleav eDS9 a tthe start of th eDominion War.. It's quie tanothe rto leav ea cliffhange rthis long though given it's been a decade sinc eInquisition and especially sinc eBiowaer in sin dasnge ro fgoin gunder they need this t obe a sucess and a good conclusion to this particular story and in a position where i fthe gam eshould fai lto meet general expectations and EA drop the guillotine the yshould a tleast give the story a satisfactory ending so everyone can move on.
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Post by OhDaniGirl on Jul 4, 2024 19:55:36 GMT
Maybe for you. I've been waiting nearly 10 years for the resolution to the Trespasser cliffhanger. I've been waiting ten years too but if Trespasser is a cliffhanger then has each DA game ended on a cliffhanger? Did SG-1? Any of the Trek series? Star Wars? How far do we want to stretch things because if Trespasser was a cliffhanger then so is pretty much any ending which includes some vague promise of further adventure. I feel like my Warden and Hawke got solid endings to their stories. It would be nice to catch up with the Queen and check on her progress to finding a cure for the blight, I suppose. I didn't find anything vague about, "I have a world to save again," however. And apparently the devs agreed, as they have explicitly stated that the story of the Inquisitor, especially in relation to Solas, is not over. Just as well. My Lavellan is fully prepared to have her heart torn to shreds. Again. Third time's a charm, after all.
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Post by midnight tea on Jul 4, 2024 20:30:55 GMT
Maybe for you. I've been waiting nearly 10 years for the resolution to the Trespasser cliffhanger. I've been waiting ten years too but if Trespasser is a cliffhanger then has each DA game ended on a cliffhanger? Did SG-1? Any of the Trek series? Star Wars? How far do we want to stretch things because if Trespasser was a cliffhanger then so is pretty much any ending which includes some vague promise of further adventure. But... Trespasser isn't vague by any means. They were VERY CLEAR about the direction of the story - which is why people have long predicted the focus on Solas, potential appearance of Evanuris, the Qunari invasion, hopping through eluvians or visiting Tevinter... or the fact that they're bringing back the Inquisitor. And we already know that they're not just bringing them back for some short cameo - John Epler has made it clear that Solas' story would make no sense without Inquisitor. He also said that despite 10 years passing the story didn't change that much. And if didn't change much, then DAVe is basically the 2nd part of Inquisition, like David Gaider said all those years back.
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Post by colfoley on Jul 4, 2024 20:46:37 GMT
I've been waiting ten years too but if Trespasser is a cliffhanger then has each DA game ended on a cliffhanger? Did SG-1? Any of the Trek series? Star Wars? How far do we want to stretch things because if Trespasser was a cliffhanger then so is pretty much any ending which includes some vague promise of further adventure. Maybe no once the series ended but certainl yfrom one season goin into the nex tthe ydid. 2 of m yfavourites bein when Picard was transformed int oLocutus an din DS9 when th eFederation were forced t oleav eDS9 a tthe start of th eDominion War.. It's quie tanothe rto leav ea cliffhange rthis long though given it's been a decade sinc eInquisition and especially sinc eBiowaer in sin dasnge ro fgoin gunder they need this t obe a sucess and a good conclusion to this particular story and in a position where i fthe gam eshould fai lto meet general expectations and EA drop the guillotine the yshould a tleast give the story a satisfactory ending so everyone can move on. And that gives me a point of comparison. Since the ending to TNG season 3 was a cliffhanger. The characters are in immediate danger, immediate conflict, the episode just ends abruptly with no falling action, on the word "fire". The DS9 ending, like Trespasser, was not in the middle of a conflict. It set up a future plot line but none of the characters are in danger, with the exception of Jake. If Trespasser endeed on a cliffhanger it would've ended right as the Inquisitor stepped through the eluvian. Instead neither character was in danger, the Inquisitors arm was removed, removing the threat to their life. And Solas mentioned that his ritual would take awhile to complete, i believe he said years. This would be the equivalent of TNG ending in season 3 and the very next shot was season 7. Not a cliffhanger. I've been waiting ten years too but if Trespasser is a cliffhanger then has each DA game ended on a cliffhanger? Did SG-1? Any of the Trek series? Star Wars? How far do we want to stretch things because if Trespasser was a cliffhanger then so is pretty much any ending which includes some vague promise of further adventure. I feel like my Warden and Hawke got solid endings to their stories. It would be nice to catch up with the Queen and check on her progress to finding a cure for the blight, I suppose. I didn't find anything vague about, "I have a world to save again," however. And apparently the devs agreed, as they have explicitly stated that the story of the Inquisitor, especially in relation to Solas, is not over. Just as well. My Lavellan is fully prepared to have her heart torn to shreds. Again. Third time's a charm, after all. and my Inquisitor mentioned that her adventuring days were over. Since there is some vagaries in that end then not sure how much we can rely on that and it really doesen't prove it's a cliffhanger. Either way the Inquisitor is like I will deal with/ not deal with this until some later date, maybe, in the future. It's not immediate.
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Post by The Pluto Lounge on Jul 4, 2024 20:57:25 GMT
A cliffhanger doesn't just mean it ends with the main character in danger, it could also be a shocking revelation. The goal of a cliffhanger is to leave the audience in suspense and makes you want to come back to see how the hero/s solve the dilemma.
For your Star Trek analogy, DS9 Season 3 ends with the changeling stating that they're already everywhere. That is a cliffhanger. Season 4 ends with Odo stating Gowron is a changeling, that is a cliffhanger.
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Post by colfoley on Jul 4, 2024 20:57:30 GMT
I've been waiting ten years too but if Trespasser is a cliffhanger then has each DA game ended on a cliffhanger? Did SG-1? Any of the Trek series? Star Wars? How far do we want to stretch things because if Trespasser was a cliffhanger then so is pretty much any ending which includes some vague promise of further adventure. But... Trespasser isn't vague by any means. They were VERY CLEAR about the direction of the story - which is why people have long predicted the focus on Solas, potential appearance of Evanuris, the Qunari invasion, hopping through eluvians or visiting Tevinter... or the fact that they're bringing back the Inquisitor. And we already know that they're not just bringing them back for some short cameo - John Epler has made it clear that Solas' story would make no sense without Inquisitor. He also said that despite 10 years passing the story didn't change that much. And if didn't change much, then DAVe is basically the 2nd part of Inquisition, like David Gaider said all those years back. Trespasser is very vague. There is a strong plot hook for a second game...that happens with a new character that we knew nothing about, in a time frame we knew nothing about other then being at some point years in the future. As it turned out ten years. That's a long time to be hanging off a cliff and keep in mind the conflict in both Inquisition and trespasser had already been resolved.
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A cliffhanger doesn't just mean it ends with the main character in danger, it could also be a shocking revelation. The goal of a cliffhanger is to leave the audience in suspense and makes you want to come back to see how the hero/s solve the dilemma. For your Star Trek analogy, DS9 Season 3 ends with the changeling stating that they're already everywhere. That is a cliffhanger. Season 4 ends with Odo stating Gowron is a changeling, that is a cliffhanger. if we stretch it then virtually ninety percent of TV and movie production end on cliffhangers then.
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How much of a role will Inq have? I would like for my Inq to have a hand in killing chuckles. Maybe even giving the killing blow. In fact I would not object to the rook character taking a backseat when Inq encounters chuckles. I would even go as far to say the player will take control of Inq, at least something that doesn't require any fighting. Unless Inq has a new arm, or an arm with a weapon attached to it. Of course this is guessing on my part. Either way, time will tell what role Inq will play in the game.
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Post by The Pluto Lounge on Jul 4, 2024 21:05:24 GMT
A cliffhanger doesn't just mean it ends with the main character in danger, it could also be a shocking revelation. The goal of a cliffhanger is to leave the audience in suspense and makes you want to come back to see how the hero/s solve the dilemma. For your Star Trek analogy, DS9 Season 3 ends with the changeling stating that they're already everywhere. That is a cliffhanger. Season 4 ends with Odo stating Gowron is a changeling, that is a cliffhanger. if we stretch it then virtually ninety percent of TV and movie production end on cliffhangers then. That's not stretching it, that's what it is. I'm not going to keep going on about it though. Google what cliffhanger is, copy and paste it, and show me that I'm wrong.
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Post by The Pluto Lounge on Jul 4, 2024 21:08:27 GMT
How much of a role will Inq have? I would like for my Inq to have a hand in killing chuckles. Maybe even giving the killing blow. In fact I would not object to the rook character taking a backseat when Inq encounters chuckles. I would even go as far to say the player will take control of Inq, at least something that doesn't require any fighting. Unless Inq has a new arm, or an arm with a weapon attached to it. Of course this is guessing on my part. Either way, time will tell what role Inq will play in the game. Hmm, I don't know. Solas is the lead writers baby. If I was a betting man, I don't think he will die, at least, not by anyone's hands but his own.
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Post by midnight tea on Jul 4, 2024 21:15:13 GMT
But... Trespasser isn't vague by any means. They were VERY CLEAR about the direction of the story - which is why people have long predicted the focus on Solas, potential appearance of Evanuris, the Qunari invasion, hopping through eluvians or visiting Tevinter... or the fact that they're bringing back the Inquisitor. And we already know that they're not just bringing them back for some short cameo - John Epler has made it clear that Solas' story would make no sense without Inquisitor. He also said that despite 10 years passing the story didn't change that much. And if didn't change much, then DAVe is basically the 2nd part of Inquisition, like David Gaider said all those years back. Trespasser is very vague. There is a strong plot hook for a second game...that happens with a new character that we knew nothing about, in a time frame we knew nothing about other then being at some point years in the future. As it turned out ten years. That's a long time to be hanging off a cliff and keep in mind the conflict in both Inquisition and trespasser had already been resolved. The conflict in Trespasser isn't resolved at all - at its end we literally begin a new mission. The "character we know nothing about" is recruited - indirectly or no - by a character leading the effort to do something about a threat they learn about in the last hour or so of the DLC. And the first hour of DAVe basically starts where Trespasser has ended, storyline-wise: chasing after Solas, in attempt to do something about his plans. 10 years or no, even I didn't expect such a direct follow-up. Yet here we are. ALL INQUISITORS end this dialogue with "now excuse me, I have the world to save - again". And all of them get the scene in the basement, where they're shown plotting their new "adventure".
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Post by themikefest on Jul 4, 2024 21:31:58 GMT
How much of a role will Inq have? I would like for my Inq to have a hand in killing chuckles. Maybe even giving the killing blow. In fact I would not object to the rook character taking a backseat when Inq encounters chuckles. I would even go as far to say the player will take control of Inq, at least something that doesn't require any fighting. Unless Inq has a new arm, or an arm with a weapon attached to it. Of course this is guessing on my part. Either way, time will tell what role Inq will play in the game. Hmm, I don't know. Solas is the lead writers baby. If I was a betting man, I don't think he will die, at least, not by anyone's hands but his own. I say he will die. If he kills himself, then I would take his body to be burned. If not, then I like the option to have him made tranquil, banished forever where there's no way for him to do any harm, maybe put him through the joining, and if possible, being able to remove his powers.
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