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Post by Kappa Neko on Jul 7, 2024 7:23:20 GMT
I don't think he's old at all. I get that there are young folks, teens even, among DA fans, but i was 25 when DAI was released and i never understood why sp many people called him old. To me he looks like he's in his early 40s. If he's early 40s then time was not kind on him. I'm 40 myself. I would say around 50. Which isn't old old of course. But I wasn't going to have my inky in her 20s hook up with a guy so much older. Probably should have though. Heard good things about his romance. And couldn't have been worse than Solas...
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Post by fairdragon on Jul 7, 2024 7:56:23 GMT
I don't think he's old at all. I get that there are young folks, teens even, among DA fans, but i was 25 when DAI was released and i never understood why sp many people called him old. To me he looks like he's in his early 40s. If he's early 40s then time was not kind on him. I'm 40 myself. I would say around 50. Which isn't old old of course. But I wasn't going to have my inky in her 20s hook up with a guy so much older. Probably should have though. Heard good things about his romance. And couldn't have been worse than Solas... Blackwall born 8:95 Blessed - 9:01 Dragon. Patrik Weekes tweeted it on the 07.03.2014. So he is 40-46 in DAI.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Jul 7, 2024 8:01:12 GMT
Blackwall born 8:95 Blessed - 9:01 Dragon. Patrik Weekes tweeted it on the 07.03.2014. So he is 40-46 in DAI. Huh, OK. So I guess a hard life just had him age faster. Or maybe I'm in denial how worn I look now, lol. Seriously though, he looks older than the people his age group look that I know.
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Post by fairdragon on Jul 7, 2024 8:10:28 GMT
Blackwall born 8:95 Blessed - 9:01 Dragon. Patrik Weekes tweeted it on the 07.03.2014. So he is 40-46 in DAI. Huh, OK. So I guess a hard life just had him age faster. Or maybe I'm in denial how worn I look now, lol. Seriously though, he looks older than the people his age group look that I know. A full beard always let people look older.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Jul 7, 2024 8:11:59 GMT
Huh, OK. So I guess a hard life just had him age faster. Or maybe I'm in denial how worn I look now, lol. Seriously though, he looks older than the people his age group look that I know. A full beard always let people look older. I know, that's why I looked up that no beard mod picture and still wwnt with 50. I guess I could see 46 but not 40. *shrugs*
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 7, 2024 8:14:53 GMT
Blackwall born 8:95 Blessed - 9:01 Dragon. Patrik Weekes tweeted it on the 07.03.2014. So he is 40-46 in DAI. Huh, OK. So I guess a hard life just had him age faster. Or maybe I'm in denial how worn I look now, lol. Seriously though, he looks older than the people his age group look that I know. Bioware has never been good with older characters. Hackett from Mass Effect is 51 when we see him in ME2.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Jul 7, 2024 8:38:19 GMT
Huh, OK. So I guess a hard life just had him age faster. Or maybe I'm in denial how worn I look now, lol. Seriously though, he looks older than the people his age group look that I know. Bioware has never been good with older characters. Hackett from Mass Effect is 51 when we see him in ME2. True. Would think him older than 51 as well, more like late 50s or something. Definitely older looking than Blackwall so I guess when comparing the two by age it makes sense.
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Post by theratpack55 on Jul 7, 2024 8:44:33 GMT
Blackwall is the only romanceable companion in Dragon Age games that I find genuinely attractive. Logged on after years of absence and a couple of days of lurking just to say "same". Though I would romance Loghain if that was an option. Funnily enough, I never gave Blackwall much attention all those years ago when I was actively playing DAI, apart from always pardoning him because I genuinely think he's being too hard on himself, mostly because I was too distracted playing malequisitors romancing Dorian. I started replaying DAI a few days ago on a whim, and holy hell, Blackwall is suddenly really attractive to me.
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Post by Andraste_Reborn on Jul 7, 2024 9:10:17 GMT
Davrin is probably the hottest of the three new male LI, imho. Agreed. My only problem with him is that I romanced Alistair and Blackwall in my canon world state and I'm trying to not go for the Warden Warrior* this time around, but he's making it very difficult by being extremely attractive, sounding like Ike Amadi AND having a baby griffon.
I can only assume people are meh about him are the same ones who keep calling Wyll Ravengard bland when he's the hottest man in BG3 even though Halsin and Astarion are strong competition. Oh well, more Wyll and Davrin for me!
* Yes Thom is a fake Warden when you meet him, but he was a real Warden by the end of my game so I'm still counting him.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Jul 7, 2024 9:36:42 GMT
I can only assume people are meh about him are the same ones who keep calling Wyll Ravengard bland when he's the hottest man in BG3 even though Halsin and Astarion are strong competition. Wyll is a nice and really noble guy, I just found his hero complex a little annoying. He likes being the savior a little bit too much. A bit full of himself the way he talks. It's a minor character flaw, mind you. But together with being super old school romantic I was more interested in other characters. I am uncomfortable with men who are cheesy romantic for some reason, even though it should be cute. Same reason I wasn't into Gale. Didn't like how either of them talk. Nothing wrong with being dramatically romantic at all. I simply like dry humor the most. Or the normal quiet sort like Kaidan. On a super superficial note Wyll's camp clothes we're hideous! So first impression was WTF is he wearing?! (Halsin is kinda eh too.) Astarion's camp clothes are great. Kept it the whole game. Same with pretty much everyone. But Wyll I had to find different clothes and that made him so much more attractive. He's a good looking guy. Wyll is not boring at all. I like his arc and he's a genuinely good person like Karlach. I want to replay as an origin story and have those two hook up. Should be sweet. Considering that we have "only" 3 male companions and one is a damn crow and the other an old man, Davrin has a real chance of being the first elf who isn't a complete disaster and can cure my elf hatred. Right now I'm leaning more towards playing a male Rook and going for one of the ladies but we'll see. Need to hear female Rook. The male Rook from the gameplay video sounds promising.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2024 10:23:39 GMT
Hopefully Bioware won't train crash. Either way we still have CDPR and Larian, who don't shy away from the more adult content (they're European after all). I miss the days when Bioware was the best videogame company and never disappointed. CDPR and Larian have a long way to go to reach BioWare’s level on this front. BioWare has yet to disappoint. I have to disagree on that. IMHO Bioware has been surpassed and their last masterpiece was ME2. I'd still rate OG Bioware above Larian in some regards however.
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Post by themikefest on Jul 7, 2024 11:35:14 GMT
BioWare has yet to disappoint. I haven't played Anthem, so I can't say if it was good or bad, but going by the feedback I've read, it was a disappointment.
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Post by witchcocktor on Jul 7, 2024 11:43:24 GMT
Blackwall is the only romanceable companion in Dragon Age games that I find genuinely attractive. Logged on after years of absence and a couple of days of lurking just to say "same". Though I would romance Loghain if that was an option. Funnily enough, I never gave Blackwall much attention all those years ago when I was actively playing DAI, apart from always pardoning him because I genuinely think he's being too hard on himself, mostly because I was too distracted playing malequisitors romancing Dorian. I started replaying DAI a few days ago on a whim, and holy hell, Blackwall is suddenly really attractive to me. Loghain is definitely a hottie as well, no doubt. Guess I have a thing for morally dubious older warrior men!
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Post by Guardian on Jul 7, 2024 12:11:10 GMT
if DATV turns out to be just OK or actually bad, and it sinks the studio, then what is truly lost? I’d rather the Dragon Age franchise die than see it sink into mediocrity. This is why I never wanted another Mass Effect game even before we saw how Andromeda turned out. I didn't want a possibly mediocre game to piss on the trilogy's legacy. MEA kinda did for me but as it's only loosely connected to the trilogy I can just ignore it. NOT looking forward to the next ME, especially not with returning beloved characters. They'll just get butchered, I know it. I fully expect DAV to be the kind of mediocre again that we didn't need. At this point I just want the story to be told in full they got me invested in so long ago. And tbh I'd take closure to a story over not getting one even if it's not good storytelling. But in general I agree that if you don't have another compelling story to tell, just don't even try. You're not alone in feeling that way about Andromeda. It was an okay game, but yeah - it just drove the point home that the previous trilogy is irrelevant. It's just a spin-off for me. Worth playing once, at least, but largely forgettable in the overall series.
Veilguard being as mediocre as Inquisition is my biggest fear. I always go back and play DAO and DA2 because I love those games for how exciting the story is, the mechanics of it, or just the characters themselves. The setting in both games drew me in; I run around in Inquisition and I kind of feel that Thedas is no longer Thedas, if that makes any sense?
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Post by Guardian on Jul 7, 2024 12:14:20 GMT
CDPR and Larian have a long way to go to reach BioWare’s level on this front. BioWare has yet to disappoint. I have to disagree on that. IMHO Bioware has been surpassed and their last masterpiece was ME2. I'd still rate OG Bioware above Larian in some regards however. Well...I could argue outside of Hudson doubling down on his atrocious endings for ME3, it wasn't a bad game. But yes, ME2 is the masterpiece here. If Andromeda and Inquisition were never released, I'd say that CDPR and Larian would be on equal footing with them. However, I have to agree with you LawBringer - BioWare isn't the studio it once was. CDPR and Larian (especially) have overtaken them.
I'd say Larian is more the spiritual successor to what BioWare used to be under the Three Doctors.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2024 12:43:15 GMT
I have to disagree on that. IMHO Bioware has been surpassed and their last masterpiece was ME2. I'd still rate OG Bioware above Larian in some regards however. Well...I could argue outside of Hudson doubling down on his atrocious endings for ME3, it wasn't a bad game. But yes, ME2 is the masterpiece here. If Andromeda and Inquisition were never released, I'd say that CDPR and Larian would be on equal footing with them. However, I have to agree with you LawBringer - BioWare isn't the studio it once was. CDPR and Larian (especially) have overtaken them.
I'd say Larian is more the spiritual successor to what BioWare used to be under the Three Doctors.
I agree ME3 is not a bad game, it's just not at the level of the first 2, which were OG Bioware masterpieces (specially ME2), and it's still far better than Andromeda despite all its flaws. I rate it higher than DA2 and DAI, which weren't for me.
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Post by The Pluto Lounge on Jul 7, 2024 13:18:25 GMT
I need to see more from the Veilguard companions before I can judge, but I don't have any clear winners yet.
Harding: she comes off as the girl next door. Fantastic in real life, but boring for a companion.
Neve: The gameplay reveal didn't do much for me. It was such a a chaotic situation, however she was talking as if they were about to grab a glass of wine and a cheese platter. I hope normal dialogue with her doesn't put me to sleep.
Bellara: way too little to go on. I'm hoping she brings fun energy and life to the group similar to Dax in DS9.
Taash: Even less to go on then Bellara. She is written by Weeks which has me concerned. Both Iron Bull and Solas were excellent characters, but they weren't great "companions". Iron Bull is so f'd up mentally that he doesn't even know who he is. Solas at best finds you interesting because of your inquisitive mind, but still beneath his qualifications of what a person should be.
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Post by theratpack55 on Jul 7, 2024 14:42:28 GMT
Logged on after years of absence and a couple of days of lurking just to say "same". Though I would romance Loghain if that was an option. Funnily enough, I never gave Blackwall much attention all those years ago when I was actively playing DAI, apart from always pardoning him because I genuinely think he's being too hard on himself, mostly because I was too distracted playing malequisitors romancing Dorian. I started replaying DAI a few days ago on a whim, and holy hell, Blackwall is suddenly really attractive to me. Loghain is definitely a hottie as well, no doubt. Guess I have a thing for morally dubious older warrior men! You and me both.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 7, 2024 16:09:40 GMT
CDPR and Larian have a long way to go to reach BioWare’s level on this front. BioWare has yet to disappoint. I have to disagree on that. IMHO Bioware has been surpassed and their last masterpiece was ME2. I'd still rate OG Bioware above Larian in some regards however. Meanwhile for me Mass Effect 2 is easily the worst Mass Effect game.
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Post by Iakus on Jul 7, 2024 16:13:32 GMT
Huh, OK. So I guess a hard life just had him age faster. Or maybe I'm in denial how worn I look now, lol. Seriously though, he looks older than the people his age group look that I know. Bioware has never been good with older characters. Hackett from Mass Effect is 51 when we see him in ME2. And his VA was 70 at the time
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Post by q5tyhj on Jul 7, 2024 16:19:08 GMT
The irony in all this is that DA4 was developed during peak woke insanity, and it shows, but will be released only later this year, now that the tide is (finally) turning. In any case, it should be interesting to see the sales numbers and, if things don't turn out as expected, amusing to watch the subsequent smear campaign against the so-called 'toxic fans'.
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Post by q5tyhj on Jul 7, 2024 16:22:00 GMT
if DATV turns out to be just OK or actually bad, and it sinks the studio, then what is truly lost? I’d rather the Dragon Age franchise die than see it sink into mediocrity. This is why I never wanted another Mass Effect game even before we saw how Andromeda turned out. I didn't want a possibly mediocre game to piss on the trilogy's legacy. MEA kinda did for me but as it's only loosely connected to the trilogy I can just ignore it. NOT looking forward to the next ME, especially not with returning beloved characters. They'll just get butchered, I know it. I fully expect DAV to be the kind of mediocre again that we didn't need. At this point I just want the story to be told in full they got me invested in so long ago. And tbh I'd take closure to a story over not getting one even if it's not good storytelling. But in general I agree that if you don't have another compelling story to tell, just don't even try. I don't get this. Andromeda didn't make the MET any worse, and with the remaster we're able to go back enjoy ME at his peak any time we want. I was disappointed with Andromeda, and especially the MP, but it was still an OK game and so it was better than nothing imo. I feel the same about DA; I'd rather have a mediocre DA game, because a mediocre DA game is still a solid game.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2024 17:04:15 GMT
I have to disagree on that. IMHO Bioware has been surpassed and their last masterpiece was ME2. I'd still rate OG Bioware above Larian in some regards however. Meanwhile for me Mass Effect 2 is easily the worst Mass Effect game. I couldn't disagree more, but you do you. That cast of characters is what made me an ME fan in the first place.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 7, 2024 17:31:52 GMT
Meanwhile for me Mass Effect 2 is easily the worst Mass Effect game. I couldn't disagree more, but you do you. That cast of characters is what made me an ME fan in the first place. Don't get me wrong I still love ME2. It’s just easily the worst for me. I didn’t like most of our squad mates and the game focusing on them more than the main plot hurt the story of the game and trilogy. With how much BioWare is talking about the game focusing on the companions in Veilguard, I’m worried it’s going to be the same thing. But it had a lot of good things, including since this is a romance-themed thread introducing my favorite LI and character of the Shepard Trilogy Kelly!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2024 17:37:06 GMT
I couldn't disagree more, but you do you. That cast of characters is what made me an ME fan in the first place. Don't get me wrong I still love ME2. It’s just easily the worst for me. I didn’t like most of our squad mates and the game focusing on them more than the main plot hurt the story of the game and trilogy. With how much BioWare is talking about the game focusing on the companions in Veilguard, I’m worried it’s going to be the same thing. But it had a lot of good things, including since this is a romance-themed thread introducing my favorite LI and character of the Shepard Trilogy Kelly! Kelly, Kelly, Kelly. The best yeoman that ever was or ever will be.
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