Patches, Bugs and PC Requirements

thanks githcheater and saandrig, that was very helpful

My graphics card is only a 2070 super but hopefully it'll do okay. I had thought they mentioned 2070 for recommended a while back so didn't do any upgrading because I was hoping to get another year out of this one. Such is life

This is what I looked into as well, since I have an i7-4790k and a GTX 970.

From YouTube gaming benchmarks, it appears that an overclocked i7-4790k is comparable in performance to an i5-8400.




I will likely upgrade my GPU to a GTX 1080 or 1080 Ti in order to get a decent performance boost over my GTX 970. I hope to be able to hit high settings at 1080p/60 FPS as BioWare listed in their spec guide as Recommended. However, it's likely my hope is a bit optimistic, and I will have to compromise for medium settings to get 60 FPS.

Thanks for the input! I had not put too much consideration for an RTX 2000 series card (ex: 2070) for two reasons, though I may be underestimating the benefits:

1) For an old build such as mine, I am not sure there will be a benefit to getting a more powerful RTX card over a 1080 Ti, even though the frame generation of DLSS may be interesting.
2) An RTX 2070 used is approximately 250$ CAD, while I can get a 1080 or 1080 Ti for about 170-200$. For only 50$ more, I may consider it if there is a significant improvement in performance for an RTX 2000 card vs a GTX 1000 card.

My reluctance is also due to not wanting to sink too much money into an old build. I am already considering upgrading my basic CPU Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus to a water cooling option, to allow for better overclocking, which will be an additional 100$.

Whether I go for a GTX 1080 Ti or an RTX 2070/2080, I feel like my CPU (i7-4790k 4 cores / 8 threads) will be holding me back at that point, not so much the GPU anymore.

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I bought my computer last year in in late November from Lenovo (USA) with a $636 Black Friday discount for about $1255 plus tax, which seems to be the best time of year to buy. A similar computer now is over $2000 at Lenovo.

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I was "lucky" that the computer was dead on arrival (error message said no hard drive), and that the computer model was no longer in stock for replacement, and they did not have a similar AMD model available.  They offered me a replacement Intel computer, but I said I wanted to upgrade the AMD processor in a few years, but the  Intel i7 processor was not upgradable.  So, instead they gave me something much more powerful.

I had ordered a "dead" Lenovo Legion computer with an AMD R7 7700 processor, a Nvidia RTX 4070 video card , 16 gig memory, and a 1 TB SSD.

After five emails and a phone call with Lenovo (and "connections"), I received a Lenovo Legion computer with an i9-13900KF processor., a Nvidia RTX 4080 video, 32 gig memory, and a 1 TB SSD which NOW costs about $2600 (with a slightly better video card).

Looks like this might be the game which finally lays my i7-3770 / RX 5500 XT to rest.

Spoiler alert - it won't be enough.

The first major PC hardware benchmarks that I am aware of have been released by Brazilian Hardware Youtube Channel Adrenaline, so I will be glad to publish some quick results in here.

Firstly, the game is perhaps not as very optimized as some had expected, at least not without upscaling technologies (more on that later). On a 4070 Super running on 4K native, the FPS are 40 on Ultra Preset, 43 on High, 53 on Medium and 60 on Low. So by lowering your settings to Low Preset, you can expect 1.5x performance vs Ultra Preset (which is not a lot at all). The most impacted visual differences are Vegetation, Hair and Textures. The reviewer recommends running the game on High or Ultra if possible, as the loss is quite significant on Medium and below.

Memory RAM usage is well above 16GB on all instances. Bioware recommends 16GB system memory, but you will very likely be better off with 32GB (as it is the case for pretty much all games released in the last 2 years).

For 1080p High, the good old RTX 3060 is good enough for 70+ frames with DLSS Quality mode on. This is the most popular GPU in the market, so it is nice to see it doing well on this game. Its AMD equivalent, the 6600, offers a similar performance with FSR Quality mode on (though it is worth noting FSR scales worse than DLSS at 1080p).

As we saw it coming when Bioware announced its performance targets, it seems we are facing another Immortal of Aveun, Remnant 2 and Starfield situation in which Upscaling is a must across the board. Running Native resolution is not gonna happen, unless you have the best of the best hardware money can buy. "Oh yes, the game is well optmized". "Oh yes, 60 frames locked". It is all thanks to upscaling. Without it, Veilguard might be another one of the poorest optimized games in the market, I am afraid. What is upscaling, one might ask? I am glad you asked. I am not well-educated and versed enough to give the best definition of what it is, but lets say the overall idea is that you get a small pictured, stretch it into a bigger picture, it will inevitably look blurrier, but then AI kicks in and makes it look prettier, and that works well 99% of the time.

For 1440p, RTX 4070, 7700XT, and similar GPUs are good for Ultra 70+ frames (that is where I find myself in, yay). But again, with upscaling On.

DLSS3 (Frame Generation, aka "fake frames") will boost your framerate to infinite and beyond, so those with the latest Nvidia cards will rejoice (not me, though).

On a sidenote, if you are rocking a PC with an AMD Ryzen 3000 or older - firstly, congrats for not having bought Intel - but secondly, you will need to update your BIOS. Bioware mentions everywhere that AGESA V2 1.2.0.7 or newer is a requirement. That cannot be stressed enough. I am sure come Friday there will be lots of complaints of people not being able to run the game.

Not really. The DF review just dropped and it shows the game is really well optimized.

You have to use upscaling if you crank the RT settings too. Which is as it should be since RT is very demanding.

Without RT the performance is great even without upscaling.

Upscaling is also useful when you try to use settings your card can't normally handle. Which a lot of people tend to do with their weak cards. "But it ran that game 5 years ago at High, so why can't it do it now?". Or "my 3060 is a 1440p card, why do I have to use upscaling at that resolution?".