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Post by Catilina on Mar 24, 2018 22:26:20 GMT
If you want a nice character arc, bring him to the deep roads! (And don't forget Anders!) I love him as Templar too, he has his reasons to be, and one of them is Aveline (with Carver as the remained sibling, I was angry at Aveline), and the other reasons is Ser Maurevar Carver, who helped to his father to escape, and after who he got his name. He believes, he can be a good one, as was Ser Maurevar Carver (if you want him as Templar, best if you find the clue – Birthright quest, side line!–, I missed it not once). But his true way to be Grey Warden. He feels better than as Templar. As a Grey Warden, he really found his way, while this was an accident. He loves, that he has a purpose, and this is important. (I love, that if he's a Grey Warden, he's angry if Hawke siding with the Templars... but he helps Hawke because s/he's the family.) He's great whiny little bastard. Not mentioned, he often "whines" about the Templars – because he really worries about Hawke, and terrifies him, if Hawke to be provocative! This is very entertaining! "This is a blighted Templar!"I really don't get, why people don't like him! They say, ungrateful, annoying, betrayer (if became a Templar), but he's not. He tries to protect his family, as he can, but he failed at Bethany and seems Hawke don't need that protect – so he feel useless. He's not even a mage, he thought he's less in his father's eyes than Garrett/Marian and Bethany. This is a very good brotherly rivalry. And the others? While everyone nice with Bethany, they mostly treat Carver as a little shit (except Merrill... of course). Thank you, Catilina. You pretty much made me a Carver fan now without playing yet. I will take him and Anders to the deep roads. I never knew of that knight who helped the siblings father escape. Maybe they mentioned it when I did my first playthrough and forgot. But I look forward to that as well. I like a good sibling rivalry. Bethany did not challenge me from what I remember. I really want to see how he gets along with Merrill, Varric, Isabela, and Anders. Two being mages and the other two silver tongued rogues. Anyway thank you for the reply and information. This fan-comic is the best presentation of Carver and Hawke's relationship, what I ever saw It's already was before, but still my favourite DA2–Here Lies the Abyss comic. (WARNING! may contain traces of Inquisition's spoiler)
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Post by talyn82 on Mar 24, 2018 23:41:51 GMT
Thank you, Catilina. You pretty much made me a Carver fan now without playing yet. I will take him and Anders to the deep roads. I never knew of that knight who helped the siblings father escape. Maybe they mentioned it when I did my first playthrough and forgot. But I look forward to that as well. I like a good sibling rivalry. Bethany did not challenge me from what I remember. I really want to see how he gets along with Merrill, Varric, Isabela, and Anders. Two being mages and the other two silver tongued rogues. Anyway thank you for the reply and information. This fan-comic is the best presentation of Carver and Hawke's relationship, what I ever saw It's already was before, but still my favourite DA2–Here Lies the Abyss comic. (WARNING! may contain traces of Inquisition's spoiler) I don't mind spoilers for Inquisition. I had four years to beat that game and never did due to my completionist nature. Thank you for posting the comic. It showed sibling rivalry perfectly.
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Post by Catilina on Mar 25, 2018 0:20:09 GMT
This fan-comic is the best presentation of Carver and Hawke's relationship, what I ever saw It's already was before, but still my favourite DA2–Here Lies the Abyss comic. (WARNING! may contain traces of Inquisition's spoiler) I don't mind spoilers for Inquisition. I had four years to beat that game and never did due to my completionist nature. Thank you for posting the comic. It showed sibling rivalry perfectly. Here that shadow-scene (at 3:03). Hawke can be really jerk to him (red and purple version in video)
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Post by talyn82 on Mar 25, 2018 1:17:14 GMT
I don't mind spoilers for Inquisition. I had four years to beat that game and never did due to my completionist nature. Thank you for posting the comic. It showed sibling rivalry perfectly. Here that shadow-scene (at 3:03). Hawke can be really jerk to him (red and purple version in video) Hawke was jerk. But Carver was a jerk too. Bringing up Bethany and putting the blame on Hawke. I think they were both jerks. Hawke most likely was fed up after probably years of rivalry with Carver.
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Post by Catilina on Mar 25, 2018 1:40:29 GMT
Here that shadow-scene (at 3:03). Hawke can be really jerk to him (red and purple version in video) Hawke was jerk. But Carver was a jerk too. Bringing up Bethany and putting the blame on Hawke. I think they were both jerks. Hawke most likely was fed up after probably years of rivalry with Carver. Yes, but nothing about that Carver would be "ungrateful". Why would he grateful...? But for example, THIS Hawke slowly formed a friendship with him. Bring him to the Legacy-quest! He's an interesting character. Perhaps, an ass, but still.
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Post by talyn82 on Mar 25, 2018 1:54:28 GMT
Hawke was jerk. But Carver was a jerk too. Bringing up Bethany and putting the blame on Hawke. I think they were both jerks. Hawke most likely was fed up after probably years of rivalry with Carver. Yes, but nothing about that Carver would be "ungrateful". Why would he grateful...? But for example, THIS Hawke slowly formed a friendship with him. Bring him to the Legacy-quest! He's an interesting character. Perhaps, an ass, but still. If the dlc is working this time around, I will bring him during the 'Legacy' questline. Yeah, I can tell he's an ass. But he will mostly be apart of my party until he joins the Grey Wardens or Templars.
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Post by Catilina on Mar 25, 2018 2:24:38 GMT
Yes, but nothing about that Carver would be "ungrateful". Why would he grateful...? But for example, THIS Hawke slowly formed a friendship with him. Bring him to the Legacy-quest! He's an interesting character. Perhaps, an ass, but still. If the dlc is working this time around, I will bring him during the 'Legacy' questline. Yeah, I can tell he's an ass. But he will mostly be apart of my party until he joins the Grey Wardens or Templars. Yes, sadly. Bring him to everywhere you can. He's very protective and funny. If you want him to be less ass, made him a Grey Warden! He has humour and self-criticism: (By the way, Leandra blames Hawke for Bethany/Carver's death.)
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Post by talyn82 on Mar 25, 2018 2:43:45 GMT
If the dlc is working this time around, I will bring him during the 'Legacy' questline. Yeah, I can tell he's an ass. But he will mostly be apart of my party until he joins the Grey Wardens or Templars. Yes, sadly. Bring him to everywhere you can. He's very protective and funny. If you want him to be less ass, made him a Grey Warden! He has humour and self-criticism: (By the way, Leandra blames Hawke for Bethany/Carver's death.) Yeah, I will let Carver become a Grey Warden. As for Leandra blaming Hawke I forgot about that. Now I won't feel so bad when she dies. Also thank you for the clip it was funny.
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Post by Sifr on Mar 29, 2018 20:43:13 GMT
Why do I have the feeling that if Hawke and Carver were in HTLA, it would end with; Both being too busy squabbling over who gets to stay behind and be the big damn hero, neither notice that the Inquisitor and the rest of the party are already halfway out of the Fade. When they finally notice, they decide to team up to fight Nightmare... all while bickering over who's fault it was that they both got left behind.
Some say that when you enter the Fade to dream, you can still hear the distant echoes of that argument to this very day.
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Post by Catilina on Mar 29, 2018 21:06:26 GMT
Why do I have the feeling that if Hawke and Carver were in HTLA, it would end with; Both being too busy squabbling over who gets to stay behind and be the big damn hero, neither notice that the Inquisitor and the rest of the party are already halfway out of the Fade. When they finally notice, they decide to team up to fight Nightmare... all while bickering over who's fault it was that they both got left behind.
Some say that when you enter the Fade to dream, you can still hear the distant echoes of that argument to this very day.
Because of exactly that what would happen!
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Post by Catilina on Apr 19, 2018 15:23:53 GMT
Yes, sadly. Bring him to everywhere you can. He's very protective and funny. If you want him to be less ass, made him a Grey Warden! He has humour and self-criticism: (By the way, Leandra blames Hawke for Bethany/Carver's death.) Yeah, I will let Carver become a Grey Warden. As for Leandra blaming Hawke I forgot about that. Now I won't feel so bad when she dies. Also thank you for the clip it was funny. Worth it.:
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Post by talyn82 on Apr 19, 2018 16:59:08 GMT
Yeah, I will let Carver become a Grey Warden. As for Leandra blaming Hawke I forgot about that. Now I won't feel so bad when she dies. Also thank you for the clip it was funny. Worth it.: Wow! Thank you for that clip. I totally agree Warden Carver is worth it. He sounds so grateful towards Hawke. Which I know he is. I like Warden Carver more than I did Warden Bethany. Bethany was both serious and sad as a Warden. Soon I'll be playing the game after I wrap up Awakening and Witch Hunt.
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Post by Catilina on Apr 19, 2018 22:20:18 GMT
Wow! Thank you for that clip. I totally agree Warden Carver is worth it. He sounds so grateful towards Hawke. Which I know he is. I like Warden Carver more than I did Warden Bethany. Bethany was both serious and sad as a Warden. Soon I'll be playing the game after I wrap up Awakening and Witch Hunt. And the last piece, at The Gallows:
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Post by talyn82 on Apr 20, 2018 0:50:04 GMT
Wow! Thank you for that clip. I totally agree Warden Carver is worth it. He sounds so grateful towards Hawke. Which I know he is. I like Warden Carver more than I did Warden Bethany. Bethany was both serious and sad as a Warden. Soon I'll be playing the game after I wrap up Awakening and Witch Hunt. And the last piece, at The Gallows:
Great scene as always Catilina. Love how humble Warden Carver is.
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Post by Catilina on Apr 20, 2018 1:03:55 GMT
And the last piece, at The Gallows: Great scene as always Catilina. Love how humble Warden Carver is. The Legacy one, and the after-Legacy scene also brilliant. This is the point where Carver starts to understand his father, Bethany and his brother position.
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Post by talyn82 on Apr 20, 2018 1:40:29 GMT
Great scene as always Catilina. Love how humble Warden Carver is. The Legacy one, and the after-Legacy scene also brilliant. This is the point where Carver starts to understand his father, Bethany and his brother position. Great clips. I'm really beginning to like Carver. Originally when I saw the bickering between the brothers it turned me off and I chose Bethany. But now I look forward to see Carver, especially since it seems they reconcile. Also they mention Bethany which is always a plus for me. I also look forward to 'Legacy?' When should I do that dlc. I saw Leandra was alive, was that before or after she dies? i mean is it an illusion? I am currently doing the Awakening expansion for DAO. Which I only done once. Once I get to the Deep Roads portion of DAO, I get tired and bored, and then rush the game. There is a save game generator I found for DA2. I picked the options DAO and it had me as a Cousland that was a Dwarf. lol Anyway back on topic. I am hyped to play DA2 and can't wait to wrap up the expansion and Witch Hunt.
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Post by Catilina on Apr 20, 2018 1:50:12 GMT
The Legacy one, and the after-Legacy scene also brilliant. This is the point where Carver starts to understand his father, Bethany and his brother position. Great clips. I'm really beginning to like Carver. Originally when I saw the bickering between the brothers it turned me off and I chose Bethany. But now I look forward to see Carver, especially since it seems they reconcile. Also they mention Bethany which is always a plus for me. I also look forward to 'Legacy?' When should I do that dlc. I saw Leandra was alive, was that before or after she dies? i mean is it an illusion? I am currently doing the Awakening expansion for DAO. Which I only done once. Once I get to the Deep Roads portion of DAO, I get tired and bored, and then rush the game. There is a save game generator I found for DA2. I picked the options DAO and it had me as a Cousland that was a Dwarf. lol Anyway back on topic. I am hyped to play DA2 and can't wait to wrap up the expansion and Witch Hunt. Thank you. In this PT I started the Legacy at Act2, before Leandra's death, but usually, I started this in the Act3 (the Hawke Key's level the same as Hawke's level). In this case, Hawke talks with a dream-Leandra.
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Post by talyn82 on Apr 20, 2018 2:14:13 GMT
Great clips. I'm really beginning to like Carver. Originally when I saw the bickering between the brothers it turned me off and I chose Bethany. But now I look forward to see Carver, especially since it seems they reconcile. Also they mention Bethany which is always a plus for me. I also look forward to 'Legacy?' When should I do that dlc. I saw Leandra was alive, was that before or after she dies? i mean is it an illusion? I am currently doing the Awakening expansion for DAO. Which I only done once. Once I get to the Deep Roads portion of DAO, I get tired and bored, and then rush the game. There is a save game generator I found for DA2. I picked the options DAO and it had me as a Cousland that was a Dwarf. lol Anyway back on topic. I am hyped to play DA2 and can't wait to wrap up the expansion and Witch Hunt. Thank you. In this PT I started the Legacy at Act2, before Leandra's death, but usually, I started this in the Act3 (the Hawke Key's level the same as Hawke's level). In this case, Hawke talks with a dream-Leandra. You're welcome. Okay I will do it at Act 3. Since I like to be prepared. When should I start the other dlc 'Mark of the Assassin?'
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Apr 20, 2018 2:28:56 GMT
Thank you. In this PT I started the Legacy at Act2, before Leandra's death, but usually, I started this in the Act3 (the Hawke Key's level the same as Hawke's level). In this case, Hawke talks with a dream-Leandra. You're welcome. Okay I will do it at Act 3. Since I like to be prepared. When should I start the other dlc 'Mark of the Assassin?' Mark of the Assassin should definitely be done in Act 3, since there is quite a bit of new dialogue if the Qunari Arc is finished.
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Post by talyn82 on Apr 20, 2018 2:42:10 GMT
You're welcome. Okay I will do it at Act 3. Since I like to be prepared. When should I start the other dlc 'Mark of the Assassin?' Mark of the Assassin should definitely be done in Act 3, since there is quite a bit of new dialogue if the Qunari Arc is finished. Ah, Okay. Good to know thanks.
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Post by phoray on Apr 21, 2018 5:46:37 GMT
I like how Carver is nicer and more protective of F. hawke ^^
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Post by Catilina on Apr 21, 2018 12:24:30 GMT
I like how Carver is nicer and more protective of F. hawke ^^ I didn't play as fem!Hawke, he behaves differently with her?
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Post by phoray on Apr 21, 2018 13:39:43 GMT
I like how Carver is nicer and more protective of F. hawke ^^ I didn't play as fem!Hawke, he behaves differently with her? He says lines that are more protective about the romances you choose, I believe. So while he's all like, "blah blah rival grr" he's also "don't you dare hurt my sister's heart!" But I've only played with Carver once, sorry I can't be more specific
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Post by Catilina on May 17, 2018 8:16:14 GMT
Carver loves the fair game! ("Drop a sword on him!")
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Post by Cantina on May 18, 2018 11:09:41 GMT
Mark of the Assassin should definitely be done in Act 3, since there is quite a bit of new dialogue if the Qunari Arc is finished. Ah, Okay. Good to know thanks.
Also a heads-up too..
I generally do it once I meet everyone in Act 3.
Lilly, Al/Tegean, de launches etc.
Their dialogue changes if you met them prior to MOA. ---------------------
Carver does have slightly; different dialogue towards a female Hawke over a male Hawke.
Sides, while Carver can be a bit of a dick, I actually prefer him to Bethany.
I always make Carver a Grey Warden. To me it seems as though that was what he was meant to be.
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