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Post by ravenous on Nov 15, 2016 15:50:38 GMT
what's really REALLY fresh and innovative is people like you and certain others who have not seen any gameplay etc and yet all you do is whine and bitch about something that hasn't been shown yet and all I see is nothing but hate for something with little to no info. Instead of hating something how about waiting till the game comes out and then play it and then complain about ME:A, also if you really hate ME:A then why are you here? I feel you on this mate, there are a couple people on the boards that are constantly hammering the game endlessly.....it must take so much energy to keep focus on something you dislike and keep coming back for more. I come here to share in a joint love of Mass Effect and talk about the games of old and upcoming, sure: it's OK to be critical of things no doubt, but to keep flogging a dead horse is a waste of time and does nothing for the community except inject toxicity (something we don't need as a BioWare fanbase IMO).  I am exited and optimistic on this game and I do have questions and I think the biggest question I have at the moment is how will the AI ships get to the Andromeda galaxy so fast in 600 years or is that not fast don't know. The other part of the question is this how did they hide this huge expedition from everyone or just about everyone. I do agree about injecting toxicity into this community and how I see it at the moment and its like I don't know if someone is exited or optimistic about this game that someone has to come in and destroy or try to destroy the exictment/optimism - maybe I am just seeing to much into that but that is how I have seen it so far |
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Post by Arcian on Nov 15, 2016 16:09:16 GMT
Nothing feels fresh or innovative. All they did was to add a jetpack gimmick to ME3's gameplay mechanics. * Hasn't played the game or seen anything beyond vague pre-launch trailers and a 4k tech reel. Seems legit. Whatever, man. History will vindicate me. Nothing feels fresh or innovative. All they did was to add a jetpack gimmick to ME3's gameplay mechanics. what's really REALLY fresh and innovative is people like you and certain others who have not seen any gameplay etc and yet all you do is whine and bitch about something that hasn't been shown yet and all I see is nothing but hate for something with little to no info. Instead of hating something how about waiting till the game comes out and then play it and then complain about ME:A, also if you really hate ME:A then why are you here? Did you just finish a shift in the salt mine? I love Mass Effect but this game is Mass Effect in name only. I'll keep complaining until BioWare gets back on the right track or they go bankrupt from making bad games, whichever comes first. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2016 16:53:28 GMT
what's really REALLY fresh and innovative is people like you and certain others who have not seen any gameplay etc and yet all you do is whine and bitch about something that hasn't been shown yet and all I see is nothing but hate for something with little to no info. Instead of hating something how about waiting till the game comes out and then play it and then complain about ME:A, also if you really hate ME:A then why are you here? I feel you on this mate, there are a couple people on the boards that are constantly hammering the game endlessly.....it must take so much energy to keep focus on something you dislike and keep coming back for more. I come here to share in a joint love of Mass Effect and talk about the games of old and upcoming, sure: it's OK to be critical of things no doubt, but to keep flogging a dead horse is a waste of time and does nothing for the community except inject toxicity (something we don't need as a BioWare fanbase IMO). I just gotta say... I love the gif you added. |
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Post by Ivory Samoan on Nov 15, 2016 17:00:38 GMT
I feel you on this mate, there are a couple people on the boards that are constantly hammering the game endlessly.....it must take so much energy to keep focus on something you dislike and keep coming back for more. I come here to share in a joint love of Mass Effect and talk about the games of old and upcoming, sure: it's OK to be critical of things no doubt, but to keep flogging a dead horse is a waste of time and does nothing for the community except inject toxicity (something we don't need as a BioWare fanbase IMO). I just gotta say... I love the gif you added. Haha, thanks mate: I think it sums up the toxic vibes emitted by some nicely  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2016 17:12:39 GMT
I feel you on this mate, there are a couple people on the boards that are constantly hammering the game endlessly.....it must take so much energy to keep focus on something you dislike and keep coming back for more. I come here to share in a joint love of Mass Effect and talk about the games of old and upcoming, sure: it's OK to be critical of things no doubt, but to keep flogging a dead horse is a waste of time and does nothing for the community except inject toxicity (something we don't need as a BioWare fanbase IMO). I am exited and optimistic on this game and I do have questions and I think the biggest question I have at the moment is how will the AI ships get to the Andromeda galaxy so fast in 600 years or is that not fast don't know. The other part of the question is this how did they hide this huge expedition from everyone or just about everyone. I do agree about injecting toxicity into this community and how I see it at the moment and its like I don't know if someone is exited or optimistic about this game that someone has to come in and destroy or try to destroy the exictment/optimism - maybe I am just seeing to much into that but that is how I have seen it so far Keep up your optimism, and don't let the worst of the "gang" on here knock it out of you. Anyone reporting in the media who has been exposed to some of the actual game at this points seems to be genuinely positive about it and it's way to early to be assessing the quality of the story or writing. Right now, everything here is just speculation... and there's a group that really are locked into particularly negative speculating when it comes to anything Bioware (... and they've all but stated that their purpose is to drive Bioware into bankruptcy, so they have now got zero in the way of credibility with me) I'm confident Bioware will provide some answers to your questions within the game. No doubt, some people will find their answers unsatisfactory no matter how good an explanation they provide. My own feeling on that is... What does it really matter, as long as the game is fun to play overall. After all, ME1 wasn't even close to being "good literature"... and even the most habitual haters around here seem to claim to have loved that one. |
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Post by Iakus on Nov 15, 2016 17:18:20 GMT
I am exited and optimistic on this game and I do have questions and I think the biggest question I have at the moment is how will the AI ships get to the Andromeda galaxy so fast in 600 years or is that not fast don't know. The other part of the question is this how did they hide this huge expedition from everyone or just about everyone. I do agree about injecting toxicity into this community and how I see it at the moment and its like I don't know if someone is exited or optimistic about this game that someone has to come in and destroy or try to destroy the exictment/optimism - maybe I am just seeing to much into that but that is how I have seen it so far Why is jumping on the hype train appropriate and being pessimistic not allowed? What has Bioware done to allay any fears? What have they told us about MEA that tells us this isn't just an *sspull to get themselves out of a corner they've painted themselves in. It's not like it would be a unique occurrence. Like it or not, ME3 burned a lot of loyal customers. That's not going to just go away because "Exploration!" Edit: and as to the topic, I'm going to worry more about "Can Bioware make a good Mass Effect story at all?" before complaining about a lack of innovation. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2016 17:24:53 GMT
I am exited and optimistic on this game and I do have questions and I think the biggest question I have at the moment is how will the AI ships get to the Andromeda galaxy so fast in 600 years or is that not fast don't know. The other part of the question is this how did they hide this huge expedition from everyone or just about everyone. I do agree about injecting toxicity into this community and how I see it at the moment and its like I don't know if someone is exited or optimistic about this game that someone has to come in and destroy or try to destroy the exictment/optimism - maybe I am just seeing to much into that but that is how I have seen it so far Why is jumping on the hype train appropriate and being pessimistic not allowed? What has Bioware done to allay any fears? What have they told us about MEA that tells us this isn't just an *sspull to get themselves out of a corner they've painted themselves in. It's not like it would be a unique occurrence. Like it or not, ME3 burned a lot of loyal customers. That's not going to just go away because "Exploration!" Edit: and as to the topic, I'm going to worry more about "Can Bioware make a good Mass Effect story at all?" before complaining about a lack of innovation. Being pessimistic is allowed... but claiming things that are purely speculation prove anything at this point is a false and unfair criticism... and, IMO, some crossed that line ages ago. Not only that, it's being done with the express purpose of snuffing out any optimism new people to this site are coming here with... and now with the almost expressly stated purpose of driving a company into bankruptcy. IMO, that goes waaay beyond just not "jumping on the hype train"... it's being "malicious." |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2016 17:32:23 GMT
Are they 'playing it safe' or just staying true the ME game's aspects that we have come to love? I think it's the latter.
To those of you who are already slamming the game for not being innovative enough for your tastes (at this pre-release point) may be missing the fact that it is the expressed purpose from BW that Andromeda will have the same look and feel as the Trilogy with improvements, and show-casing their lessons learned and newer ideas. They want to/need to reassure the core of their fan base. All the reveals to date have proven they are keeping close to their promises in this regard (Poor marketing mistakes continue to stink and insult fans). I also think that amazing innovations would not be show-cased at this point. It's very premature.
I don't think I'll see wildly new innovations (not sure what this really means) in the Andromeda game; more like surprising Wow factors and plot twists - and it's okay with me. I would like to see a little parkour, like hanging from a ledge and moving left or right to jump (space bar) somewhere to avoid a hazard or escape from being killed. Give me a very good story to experience and alternate pathway options to go covert to avoid some of the attrition-style combat, and I'll be more pleased (I'm not massive combat oriented - that's for MP). I see that I'm going to feel right at home with Andromeda. The classless protagonist/pathfinder class option is innovative for me.
There are those who are stating it will take a lot of retconning to explain the inter-galactic travel tech that wasn't seen in the ME trilogy. And then there are others who complain that they're not seeing great innovations. Those who want to b*tch will probably get their fill no matter what happens. Such folks live for this kind of mental grist- they seem to like it. I'm in the comfy middle. Am I a mind-numbed ME drone, or just very pleased with this franchise's concepts and designs? I'll be happy to continue in the ME opera - even if I feel that I'll have to put up with some fantasy disbelief, and wish some character conversations were handled differently. Shepard: "That's all for now." I sure hope we will see a greater variety of parting words from our protagonist. Now that would be an innovation for ME!
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Post by Iakus on Nov 15, 2016 17:44:56 GMT
Being pessimistic is allowed... but claiming things that are purely speculation prove anything at this point is a false and unfair criticism... and, IMO, some crossed that line ages ago. Not only that, it's being done with the express purpose of snuffing out any optimism new people to this site are coming here with... and now with the almost expressly stated purpose of driving a company into bankruptcy. IMO, that goes waaay beyond just not "jumping on the hype train"... it's being "malicious." Okay, you're going to have to point out to me where people are"maliciously' trying to drive Bioware into bankruptcy. BEcause i'm not seeing that. I AM, however, seeing a lot of vitriol at people for being insufficiently enthusiastic about MEA. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2016 18:03:17 GMT
Being pessimistic is allowed... but claiming things that are purely speculation prove anything at this point is a false and unfair criticism... and, IMO, some crossed that line ages ago. Not only that, it's being done with the express purpose of snuffing out any optimism new people to this site are coming here with... and now with the almost expressly stated purpose of driving a company into bankruptcy. IMO, that goes waaay beyond just not "jumping on the hype train"... it's being "malicious." Okay, you're going to have to point out to me where people are"maliciously' trying to drive Bioware into bankruptcy. BEcause i'm not seeing that. I AM, however, seeing a lot of vitriol at people for being insufficiently enthusiastic about MEA. I said " almost expressly stated" and you can read it in a post made by someone just a little farther up in this thread. The overall behavior is, IMO, "malicious" (in other words, I don't believe them when they say their intentions are to encourage Bioware to make a better game... but rather, I think, they just want to continue to berate them for making ME3 the way they did... as they have done on several other threads). If I were the only one seeing it this way, I might question my impression more... but I'm not the only one seeing it. Yes, there has been "vitriol" occurring on both sides of this ongoing debate... but if you're only seeing it on the one side, then you're overlooking it on the other (again, IMO). It would indeed be nice if all the vitriol on BOTH sides ended. |
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Post by traks on Nov 15, 2016 18:23:32 GMT
I'm pretty pumped about what I've heard and seen so far. The only major thing missing for me is an in game reason of "why are we going to Andromeda". Hope that gets cleared up in the intro (and probably in length in one of the books), because I for sure wouldn't sign up for 600 years of cryo sleep just to explore. But I'm very positive, that the game will bring back the wonder and excitement of the first game and be a fresh experience. I like that they want to bring the player and character into the same boat, experiencing stuff for the first time without a disconnect between the knowledge of the two.
A 3-men team in combat is one of the defining elements of Mass Effect, so I'm glad it stays. From a gameplay standpoint - as I stated in the Game Informer info thread - the only thing that worries me so far are super bosses that can't be beaten at certain points in the game. That's so not Mass effecty for me...
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Post by Iakus on Nov 15, 2016 19:36:43 GMT
Okay, you're going to have to point out to me where people are"maliciously' trying to drive Bioware into bankruptcy. BEcause i'm not seeing that. I AM, however, seeing a lot of vitriol at people for being insufficiently enthusiastic about MEA. I said " almost expressly stated" and you can read it in a post made by someone just a little farther up in this thread. The overall behavior is, IMO, "malicious" (in other words, I don't believe them when they say their intentions are to encourage Bioware to make a better game... but rather, I think, they just want to continue to berate them for making ME3 the way they did... as they have done on several other threads). If I were the only one seeing it this way, I might question my impression more... but I'm not the only one seeing it. Yes, there has been "vitriol" occurring on both sides of this ongoing debate... but if you're only seeing it on the one side, then you're overlooking it on the other (again, IMO). It would indeed be nice if all the vitriol on BOTH sides ended. The absolute closes I can find to what you described came from Arcian, who said: Which is absolutely NOT what you described. Or did you miss the "until Bioware gets back on the right track" part? Again, some people are (rightly, imo) suspicious and pessimistic about Mass Effect's future, thanks to both ME3 and Bioware's rather patronizing response to the backlash. Coupled with the lack of any indication that they learned anything from it. But there is also a rather fanatical element here who think it's their duty to police these suspicious posters and tell them to get on the bus or end up under its wheels. But you know what? Stifling expression doesn't make it go away. |
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Nov 15, 2016 19:52:12 GMT
Who cares about innovative. First, make a good game. Innovation is a big, vital part of a good game. This is the sort of thinking that leads to so many innovation-first flops -- like 3D TV. Even more heartbreaking is when truly innovative games, like Okami and Grim Fandango, are commercial failures. The causal relationship between innovation and success of a game is weak at best. I believe this is because innovation is a means to an end, not an end in itself. Innovation should serve the goals that Innocent Bystander posted. Making a good game should be the priority, and if innovation is required to make that so, go for it. |
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Post by Kappa Neko on Nov 15, 2016 20:09:35 GMT
Who cares about innovative. First, make a good game. Innovation is a big, vital part of a good game. No, it's not. Pretty much every great story is basically the same story mankind has been telling since the dawn of time. A story about courage and love and friendship. It's never WHAT you present that matters but HOW. I mean... Bioware has pretty much stolen the ideas for all their games from various sci-fi shows and fantasy novels. ME1 is a geeky love letter to shows like Farscape and BSG. Go watch Farscape and tell me the Asari weren't heavily inspired by the character Zhaan. I never read the novels myself but I've been told it's baffling how Bioware didn't get sued for completely ripping off The Wheel Of Time when they made Dragon Age. I don't even know why you play Bioware games then. They are NOT innovative. Bioware are good storytellers. They know how to write emotional engaging stories and characters. They take the best things from other media and turn them into games. They make you care. Their games are very moralistic, and that isn't innovative either. It's what religion does in a less fun way. Their morality is very goody two-shoes, which I personally like. It's always about friendship, sacrifice and compromise. Oh, and their games have good art design, sometimes. But gameplay? Always mediorce, ME3 being the one exception imo. The balancing in combat is often a mess. It's when Bioware thinks they need to copy other popular games/franchises that things turn out not so well, see DAI's open world design. Because in order to do gameplay well you need to know HOW to do it right. And Bioware did not seem to understand why Skyrim is so popular. They are really not the best game designers. But they do party banter like no other. So what I personally want is for Bioware to stick to what they're actually good at and not chase trends trying to be "innovative". It's better to build on a good foundation than try something crazy that won't hold together. And people don't even want innovation in the first place. Look at Assassin's Creed, Call of Duty or how Nintendo does nothing but give their fans the same game over and over. And they love that! They want it that way. And that's fine. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2016 20:11:17 GMT
I said " almost expressly stated" and you can read it in a post made by someone just a little farther up in this thread. The overall behavior is, IMO, "malicious" (in other words, I don't believe them when they say their intentions are to encourage Bioware to make a better game... but rather, I think, they just want to continue to berate them for making ME3 the way they did... as they have done on several other threads). If I were the only one seeing it this way, I might question my impression more... but I'm not the only one seeing it. Yes, there has been "vitriol" occurring on both sides of this ongoing debate... but if you're only seeing it on the one side, then you're overlooking it on the other (again, IMO). It would indeed be nice if all the vitriol on BOTH sides ended. The absolute closes I can find to what you described came from Arcian, who said: Which is absolutely NOT what you described. Or did you miss the "until Bioware gets back on the right track" part? Again, some people are (rightly, imo) suspicious and pessimistic about Mass Effect's future, thanks to both ME3 and Bioware's rather patronizing response to the backlash. Coupled with the lack of any indication that they learned anything from it. But there is also a rather fanatical element here who think it's their duty to police these suspicious posters and tell them to get on the bus or end up under its wheels. But you know what? Stifling expression doesn't make it go away. Perhaps you missed some of his/her previous posts on other threads then. It's up to you to go back and reread such things if you're so inclined. I'm not going to link to them here. At least now you're acknowledging (albeit just a little bit) about the two-sided nature of all of this... something that was not reflected in your previous post. I opened my previous post with an acknowledgement that "being pessimistic" is allowed... so, I'm obviously not in favor of "stifling expression" either. What, IMO, is and is not "acceptable" is all a matter of degree. |
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Post by Kappa Neko on Nov 15, 2016 20:15:42 GMT
Nothing feels fresh or innovative. All they did was to add a jetpack gimmick to ME3's gameplay mechanics. Wait, so you want an innovative game but you ALSO want Bioware to not change or add anything new? Right. I think you have a problem there... The people who whine about Bioware losing their way are people who do NOT want innovation or any kind of change. Which proves you're just here to complain for no reason. Please leave. Just leave. |
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Post by Iakus on Nov 15, 2016 20:40:44 GMT
The absolute closes I can find to what you described came from Arcian, who said: Which is absolutely NOT what you described. Or did you miss the "until Bioware gets back on the right track" part? Again, some people are (rightly, imo) suspicious and pessimistic about Mass Effect's future, thanks to both ME3 and Bioware's rather patronizing response to the backlash. Coupled with the lack of any indication that they learned anything from it. But there is also a rather fanatical element here who think it's their duty to police these suspicious posters and tell them to get on the bus or end up under its wheels. But you know what? Stifling expression doesn't make it go away. Perhaps you missed some of his/her previous posts on other threads then. It's up to you to go back and reread such things if you're so inclined. I'm not going to link to them here. At least now you're acknowledging (albeit just a little bit) about the two-sided nature of all of this... something that was not reflected in your previous post. I opened my previous most with an acknowledgement that "being pessimistic" is allowed... so, I'm obviously not in favor of "stifling expression" either. What, IMO, is and is not "acceptable" is all a matter of degree. You (vaguely) cited that particular one, so that's the one I read. As to the two sides, count the posts on this page slamming naysayers. The post directly above me is basically directly telling us to "just leave" |
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Post by The Elder King on Nov 15, 2016 20:45:47 GMT
Nothing feels fresh or innovative. All they did was to add a jetpack gimmick to ME3's gameplay mechanics. Wait, so you want an innovative game but you ALSO want Bioware to not change or add anything new? Right. I think you have a problem there... The people who whine about Bioware losing their way are people who do NOT want innovation or any kind of change. Which proves you're just here to complain for no reason. Please leave. Just leave. Even if they just want to complain (which I don't think it's true), they're free to stay there and express their views. I don't see the problem with it, people can discuss things even if they have completely opposite views. |
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Post by daniel on Nov 15, 2016 20:57:11 GMT
Its a 50/50 thing for me now. The voice cast is sublime as always and the graphics definitley look stunning. So we'll just have to wait on the rest. Im about to drop a spoiler from here so if you haven't seen it....
I watched a bootleg trailer that someone released illegaly a while back and it showed a Krogan on your team interrogating someone and early gameplay. That was cool.
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Post by The Elder King on Nov 15, 2016 21:01:29 GMT
Its a 50/50 thing for me now. The voice cast is sublime as always and the graphics definitley look stunning. So we'll just have to wait on the rest. Im about to drop a spoiler from here so if you haven't seen it.... I watched a bootleg trailer that someone released illegaly a while back and it showed a Krogan on your team interrogating someone and early gameplay. That was cool. I don't think that Krogan is necessarily a member of our team. |
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Post by daniel on Nov 15, 2016 21:07:59 GMT
I do hope so, working with Grunt was awesome and i was really rooting for him to join the team. Next to Thane the Krogan brought some of the best moments to the game.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2016 21:09:24 GMT
Perhaps you missed some of his/her previous posts on other threads then. It's up to you to go back and reread such things if you're so inclined. I'm not going to link to them here. At least now you're acknowledging (albeit just a little bit) about the two-sided nature of all of this... something that was not reflected in your previous post. I opened my previous most with an acknowledgement that "being pessimistic" is allowed... so, I'm obviously not in favor of "stifling expression" either. What, IMO, is and is not "acceptable" is all a matter of degree. You (vaguely) cited that particular one, so that's the one I read. As to the two sides, count the posts on this page slamming naysayers. The post directly above me is basically directly telling us to "just leave" I already acknowledged the two sides in my two previous posts to you and I did not tell you to "just leave," so I'm really not sure why you're getting on me about this. Care to explain what it is I've exactly said here that you seem to think qualifies as either vitriolic (per your first response to me) or trying to stifle expression? ... and I'm sure you're well aware of this general issue as being the result of comments made by that poster over several threads... not just this one. |
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Post by The Elder King on Nov 15, 2016 21:13:22 GMT
I do hope so, working with Grunt was awesome and i was really rooting for him to join the team. Next to Thane the Krogan brought some of the best moments to the game. Sorry, I wasn't clear. I meant that the krogan in that video you mentioned might not be our squadmate, not that we won't get one. At this point is pretty much sure we'look get a krogan squadmate. And I agree. On this point, given the important that squadmates will have in combat compared to the original trilogy, as well at their AI probably being more developed, I'm wondering if they'll make the various squadmates act differently based on their race, class and loadout. Krogans should probably be more aggressive and take advantage of their superior resistance and regeneration. |
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Post by fatherjerusalem on Nov 15, 2016 21:30:55 GMT
I said " almost expressly stated" and you can read it in a post made by someone just a little farther up in this thread. The overall behavior is, IMO, "malicious" (in other words, I don't believe them when they say their intentions are to encourage Bioware to make a better game... but rather, I think, they just want to continue to berate them for making ME3 the way they did... as they have done on several other threads). If I were the only one seeing it this way, I might question my impression more... but I'm not the only one seeing it. Yes, there has been "vitriol" occurring on both sides of this ongoing debate... but if you're only seeing it on the one side, then you're overlooking it on the other (again, IMO). It would indeed be nice if all the vitriol on BOTH sides ended. The absolute closes I can find to what you described came from Arcian, who said: Which is absolutely NOT what you described. Or did you miss the "until Bioware gets back on the right track" part? Again, some people are (rightly, imo) suspicious and pessimistic about Mass Effect's future, thanks to both ME3 and Bioware's rather patronizing response to the backlash. Coupled with the lack of any indication that they learned anything from it. But there is also a rather fanatical element here who think it's their duty to police these suspicious posters and tell them to get on the bus or end up under its wheels. But you know what? Stifling expression doesn't make it go away. Okay, but who gets to determine the "right track". Because it's pretty clear that BioWare isn't going back to what people like you and Arcian think is the "right track", and that they're moving in a direction you hate. So if you're going to keep complaining until they give in to your demands and cater to your every whim, you're going to be complaining for a very long time indeed, and a lot of people just sick of hearing the same shit over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over. Now I'm all for disagreeing with decisions you don't make sense, or saying that you wish they'd do this instead of that. But the amount of bitching that y'all do has nothing to do with constructiveness, it's just petty, malignant, constant, bitchiness. I, personally, may hate the constant comparisons to The Witcher that both Mass Effect and Dragon Age seem to be getting these days, but at least those are usually discussions about "Well this is what they did in the Witcher, and I'd like to see some form of it in the new Mass Effect game" and that, whether I like it or not, adds value to the discussion. But to just keep posting about how horrible everything is, and how awful Bioware is, and how Mass Effect Andromeda is going to be worse than cancer just based off of one tech video, one trailer, and a couple screenshots is... it's pathetic. |
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Post by Cyberstrike on Nov 15, 2016 21:33:56 GMT
What do you guys think from what you have seen so far does it feel fresh and innovative to you? Don't get me wrong I loved the previous trilogy but in comparison with the first, which in my opion was the best, the third was far more combat and action driven then the original. And here we are ready to kick off a new chapter, and yet we have the same 3 man formation with you leading them? Considering that you will not play as a commander this time but instead as a basic trained rookie, they should have dropped that and let the story guide the characters, with perhaps the father of the sibblings in charge. Im also not appalled to play as a human again but there is serious lack of alien characters so far and this is afterall supposed to be a game about aliens. I don't know maybe i am being to presumptious and best is yet to come, anyway i'm curious what others are thinking so far. The choice to go to Andromeda Galaxy was the only way to move the series forward from the um...problematic endings to ME3, without having to be a prequel (which would have all kinds of problems of it own), a side-story which at best might be fun for a one-shot deal, and frankly I think the series is way to young for a hard reboot and since I can still play my original trilogy on Xbox 360, Xbox One, and PS3 I have little interest playing Shepard again with shiner graphics although I'm not 100% opposed to the idea it's not something I would probably not pay $60+ on day 1 for. The general idea of a trilogy is that act 1 introduces your hero, villain, and the universe. In that regard that is in ME1 Tali is a massive exposition dump on the quarians and the geth and is the most boring character in the game and if Liara wasn't a LI she would have been the same thing except for the asari (that and Ali Hillis and Jennifer Hale had a great chemistry). Story wise ME1 had to set up not only who Shepard and the squadmates are, who the villains are, and explain how everything from the Council to the Normandy SR-1 and everything else works. Most of the story of ME1 is just exposition that BioWare needed to get out of the way. The second act is basically the hero getting their ass handed to them by the villain or the hero learns a devastating truth, loses a mentor, or love interest, etc. It's the dark chapter. The third act is basically the climax where all the hero defeats the villains. So that ME3 is more combat driven shouldn't be a surprise (honestly it's prologue is really boring and rehashes a lot of the exposition from the first two games) because all the story was set-up in 2 previous games, their assorted DLC, novels, comics, and anime movie. Now to be brutally honest the story barely holds together across 3 games and their DLC, (the novels, comics, and anime help somewhat but just barely) because in my OPINION BioWare never really had a much in the way of a three part story planed from to start, I think they saw how well Halo was selling at the time and how Bungie and Microsoft were say that it was trilogy and were thinking that since Star Wars, The Matrix, and The Lord of the Rings made money by being trilogies that saying Mass Effect would be a trilogy would be good for business. I think at best Casey Hudson and Mac Walters went in with the old "we will make it up as we go" approach and while there are a few successful trilogies that did that right ( Evil Dead maybe) but I find it leaves a lot to be desired. Play as a human again the original Mass Effect trilogy was about humanity starting out as newbies on the galactic stage and becoming leaders and proving their worth. Playing as a rookie look I've played as an already well-trained space marine in the Mass Effect trilogy, (and as well as a warrior, thief, and mage in the various Dragon Age games, a well trained martial artist in Jade Empire and a Jedi/Sith with memory loss in KOTOR 1) so frankly I find the idea of playing as a rookie kind of fresh. Mass Effect was NEVER about aliens it was and still is a story about humans the aliens are there because it's science fiction. As far as the 3 man team it works (the combat in ME3 was IMHO the best of the series so far) so why fix something that was never really broken? |
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