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Post by The Elder King on Nov 18, 2016 22:18:57 GMT
My own thoughts are "some things are better left to the imagination" I think that's fine. As I said, I do think some people might not like graphic nudity or sed scenes (I don't care either way). I just think sex cards are on another level.
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Post by The Elder King on Nov 18, 2016 22:21:40 GMT
In the first game when you had a sexual encounter with someone you unlocked a sex card. It isn't present in either the second or the third game. Oh god XD I'm such a completionist that'd mean worrying things for me. I tend to stick to one romance like a lost puppy, even if it takes me all the romances to find it. As far as I recall, there were only two love interests, the other were just casual encounters. But yeah you'd probably have a bit of problems with the completionist part.
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Post by lezio on Nov 18, 2016 22:24:22 GMT
Take a shot every time someone mentions The Witcher Ironically, this developed in a discussion about The Witcher that has little to do with my argument How many shots is it?
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Post by Pon.ee on Nov 18, 2016 22:28:49 GMT
Take a shot every time someone mentions The Witcher Ironically, this developed in a discussion about The Witcher that has little to do with my argument How many shots is it? So many
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Post by fatherjerusalem on Nov 19, 2016 0:14:47 GMT
And another one when someone reminds about sex cards and Triss Playboy spread which the Witcher fanbase likes to pretend don't exist I don't think people pretend they don't exist. But you can't judge later games for a feature only the first game had. So... kind of like how ME1 had overheating weapons, and 2 and 3 moved on from that? Can we, as a fanbase, finally move on from that too?
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Post by The Biotic Trebuchet on Nov 19, 2016 0:46:58 GMT
Looks good What you all dont know about this, is that every romance scene is Jacob saying "The priiize", Xaxaxaxaxaxa!
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Nov 19, 2016 1:20:06 GMT
I just hope they're not trying to straight up copy The Witcher's approach to relationships, because that's very much not their style, and they'd probably fail at it IMHO And i say this because BW does have a record of looking at successful games for ideas. If they change concept and make it theirs, then great, but if they just shove romances in just for the sake of being edgy and "mature" the... eh Witcher 3 very much incorporated romances as part of the main narrative, even for Triss who was optional because TW1 and 2 sort of had her as a default romance... I mean, Witcher 2 even opens with a cutscene of Geralt groping her naked in a tent. I think there's a place for it though, but not in this era of BioWare making sure their games are for everyone, and I mean, EVERYONE so they can't lock you into a straight male-default romance with a specific female character and they can't do any other combination by default either without pissing someone off who expect different from them. I'm not expecting much out of the ordinary of romances though, except they might have more content this time and they make it sound like there's more to them than just the romance scene and a few odd dialogues this time... but then again, so many things they say end up sounding better on paper than in the games, so well... I'm looking forward to the novelty of romancing a lot of new characters though.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Nov 19, 2016 1:21:20 GMT
My own thoughts are "some things are better left to the imagination" I think that's fine. As I said, I do think some people might not like graphic nudity or sed scenes (I don't care either way). I just think sex cards are on another level. The Witcher games were always kind of relishing in immaturity at least until Witcher 3 when it came to sex and romance. I did like Geralt and Triss's relationship in TW2 though, just maybe not the awkward softcore scenes with Harry Potter music over them.
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Post by Element Zero on Nov 19, 2016 1:39:03 GMT
I hope the romances where sex isn't a mandatory part of them are among the main options and not just the light romances the article talks about. Don't let the over-the-top thread title worry you. Here's a quote taken from the article: "Your reward for the time you invest in your character isn't always a tawdry cinematic; considering the unique bonds Ryder forges, the crew has plenty of opportunities to surprise you." And from Cinematic Director Ken Thain: "We are a character focused game. I'm making sure we have-- not just in culminations, per se, but even in relationships-- particular moments with these characters that are unique." I can't recall if it's this article, or if it was another interview altogether, in which Mac Walters hinted that some deep relationships may not lead to intimacy at all, due to species or individual character qualities. So, I can't say you will get your asexual relationship(s), but I'd say that they are aware of the need for more variety and have made a conscious effort to add such to this game.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 19, 2016 1:57:26 GMT
I suppose you are right. Multiple romances in DAI had it be optional choice(Dorian, Rainier, and Sera) which tied the romances that had it be mandatory(Cassandra, Cullen, The Iron Bull). And then arguably the romance tied most to the plot(Solas) and the poster romance for the game(Josephine) went even further and had no mention of it or even flirts that were sexual in nature, instead leaving it up to player interpretation and focusing on the romantic part of the relationship. On the other hand, this is a different team so while it is most likely to be the same I hope we get confirmation before the game comes out. Maybe they'll do that on Valentine's Day since that is near release. I have high hopes, DAI was a good step in the right direction for progressive romances with more not including sexual encounters. Who knows, maybe there's a species you can romance that isn't sexual compatible? Maybe they just want companionship. Andromeda is full of opportunities *u* I can see them doing that. For example like if a Salarian is a LI. Or if there is a synthetic who experiences that desire, sort of like EDI with Joker. For cases other than that, it could happen depending on their orientation or preference, like say a character who would prefer to wait for marriage or something. I hope the romances where sex isn't a mandatory part of them are among the main options and not just the light romances the article talks about. Don't let the over-the-top thread title worry you. Here's a quote taken from the article: "Your reward for the time you invest in your character isn't always a tawdry cinematic; considering the unique bonds Ryder forges, the crew has plenty of opportunities to surprise you." And from Cinematic Director Ken Thain: "We are a character focused game. I'm making sure we have-- not just in culminations, per se, but even in relationships-- particular moments with these characters that are unique." I can't recall if it's this article, or if it was another interview altogether, in which Mac Walters hinted that some deep relationships may not lead to intimacy at all, due to species or individual character qualities. So, I can't say you will get your asexual relationship(s), but I'd say that they are aware of the need for more variety and have made a conscious effort to add such to this game. Oh, I'm not worried there won't be any options for that at all, since a couple months ago Mike Gamble answered this on Twitter: User @gamblemike @faburisu question, will there be an option for a relationship not having sex? Just if we want to add our own personal beliefs? Michael Gamble @gamblemike @user @faburisu yep My hope above is just that those kind of romances wouldn't be limited just to the light ones as the articles refer to them. To use Mass Effect so far as an example, almost every single romance in the Shepard Trilogy have had sex be mandatory either as an ultimatum of "have sex or end romance" or just assumes for you and makes it so. The only exception to this was Kelly Chambers, whom the writer did the same as DAI did with Josephine and Solas and left that part up to interpretation, and for those who romanced Kelly definitely drew the short straw like for example she being the only LI who had no content in the Citadel DLC. So I'm just hoping that that won't be the case again. Between the overall positive response to Bioware's doing this in DAI, the DA team expressing a desire to continue, and the things said for MEA so far it seems like that won't be the case, so that's good.
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Post by sageoflife on Nov 19, 2016 2:23:50 GMT
Oh, grow up, TC.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2016 3:17:56 GMT
I am really interested in the out-of-party romances, because that's imo the best chance to meet a larger-than-life characters from the setting and have a whirlwind crazy affair, not going on the rails of going on a date, then getting married after an FTB a-la-SWTOR. I just want a cool fun stuff, nothing like real life, so the romantic story itself is dressed up as an interesting adventure worth participating in.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2016 3:33:15 GMT
Finally we have the explanation for the delay of ME:A until March 2017! They needed to create more casual dialog for a lot of new romance opportunities! Whew, I'm glad this is all that the kerfuffle was about. Lol
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Post by thedarkprince on Nov 19, 2016 3:42:06 GMT
Hopefully more than just human and asari options....as well as male and female aliens.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2016 3:47:57 GMT
Unpopular opinion ahoy: I hope they don't waste any options on the weird aliens, like Salarians, Krogan, Hanar, ect. How many players actually would be interested in those species as LIs? I doubt it's more than 5%.
Obviously the game is going to provide options for player characters to get their Captain Kirk on, but they shouldn't go full Rule34 with it. They should limit it to the near-human aliens like Asari or Quarians.
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Post by theflyingzamboni on Nov 19, 2016 5:46:05 GMT
In the next update, we learn that Ryder can romance a hivemind alien species. But you can't love just one segment without loving them all...
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Post by KaiserShep on Nov 19, 2016 5:56:23 GMT
I rather having them include more meaningful romance options, than "just a fling" relationships. There's nothing really precluding them from including both, unless they spread themselves too thin on content. In any case, I think that all things considered, fling-type romances are a good thing in that they are just another way for the player to build their character.
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Post by Sondergaard on Nov 19, 2016 7:56:45 GMT
Can't we just be friends? Biggest disappointment for my femshep was having Jack assume it was sex or nothing. No option for friendship.
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Post by The Elder King on Nov 19, 2016 8:02:29 GMT
Can't we just be friends? Biggest disappointment for my femshep was having Jack assume it was sex or nothing. No option for friendship. The article mentioned they want to make sure the friendship paths are as rewarding of the romance paths. We'll see how it turns out.
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Post by jediguardian on Nov 19, 2016 8:12:21 GMT
Why I have feeling that the character I like the most will be just light romance.
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Post by The Elder King on Nov 19, 2016 8:21:40 GMT
Why I have feeling that the character I like the most will be just light romance. Well, based on what Walters said, it seems that the romances with less content will be out of the squad and crew (considering he mentioned them separate from light romances). If you generally prefer characters in the squad or crew you should be fine. Theorically
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2016 9:17:56 GMT
I rather having them include more meaningful romance options, than "just a fling" relationships. There's nothing really precluding them from including both, unless they spread themselves too thin on content. In any case, I think that all things considered, fling-type romances are a good thing in that they are just another way for the player to build their character. That is the thing, I think for the game this size, it would be rather effort consuming to include 10 serious romances and ~30 fling options, so that each feels believable /non-trivial.
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Post by hipi07 on Nov 19, 2016 9:18:51 GMT
I hope you can get friend zoned
'You're so cute and all but it's just that... d'aww I'm so sorry but I can't...'
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Post by KaiserShep on Nov 19, 2016 12:35:06 GMT
I hope you can get friend zoned 'You're so cute and all but it's just that... d'aww I'm so sorry but I can't...' Like Aveline and Cassandra (if rolling a female Inquisitor). I enjoyed that dialogue.
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Post by Pon.ee on Nov 19, 2016 16:43:10 GMT
Unpopular opinion ahoy: I hope they don't waste any options on the weird aliens, like Salarians, Krogan, Hanar, ect. How many players actually would be interested in those species as LIs? I doubt it's more than 5%. *Sweats nervously*
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