Scott Ryder 'BroRyder' (Official Thread)

I'm against set personalities. I think it'd be better if both Sara and Scott would have at least three personality types to choose from, like they did with Hawke. So that we don't need to play with a blank state but still have some alternatives to choose from. I don't want Scott to be stoic, though I don't really know what's meant by this. Nervous BroRyder sounds really cute. I'd like that. Don't want a Shepard 2.0 or a boring Jacob.... 

I'd be happy if I could choose between nervous, cute, seductive, sarcastic, cold hearted, pure hearted, unexperienced and professional.

I wish they could tell us more about these choices.

Professional - Serious? Go straight to the point? Polite?
Casual - Informal? Loose? Kinda halfhearted maybe? Or playful?
Head - Smart? Snarky? More technical?
Heart - Cute? More trusting? Or maybe this will be the more "renegade" kind?

Also is the flirt option going to be a heart like in DAI or will it be put in the middle of these?


Ah, and from the gameplay trailer we have:
Let's cut to the chase - Professional?
None of your business - Head?
I'll be honest with you - Heart?
Get over yourself - Casual?

I agree. I wish we knew more about how the game works. Oh well, on January 4 we will see more gameplay. Fingers crossed for more info about the dialogue.

I much preferred the Inquisitor to Hawke, because I didn't feel like I could play Hawke with any kind of nuance. Once I decided she was going to be 'aggressive' I had to stick with that option the entire game. Like, I almost felt like we might as well have chosen a personality at character creation and just let auto-dialogue do the rest for all the freedom we had to mix up our responses (unless we were okay creating a really inconsistent character).

And really, for all everyone praises the Hawke approach, almost everyone cites sarcastic Hawke as the reason why. Personality, I didn't like her at all - I found her smug and insensitive and unfunny, and she always sounded like she was waiting for a laugh track at the end of every line. I realize I'm very much in the minority in this, and it's largely because her jokes just didn't appeal to my sense of humor. And that's fine... It's just that nice Hawke and aggro Hawke are on such extremes from one another you were even more limited in your roleplay if you chose them. If you ask questions it defaults to the 'nice' personality and if you flirt with anyone it defaults to the 'funny' personality so you either don't do either as aggro Hawke, or you look past the fact that she suddenly became a different person for a while in order to explore some dialogue. Conversely, if you played a 'diplomatic' Hawke, you had to be nice and agreeable with everyone, else you'd come across as bizarrely hostile toward, say, Merrill, if you disagreed with her life choices or something.

I'd much rather have a situation like the Inquisitor where the character was a bit bland but could react differently depending on the person or situation... OR, give the character a specific personality and let us take the wheel from there. Let us decide who we like or don't, or what we take seriously, or don't. I thought Shepard did this fairly well (in that their character was set to a point, but you could mix and match Paragon and Renegade fairly well to make your own version) save for some cringe-worthy auto-flirting. The problem was you only had two, sometimes, three, directions you could go (versus the four now) and the game punished you if you didn't max one out (a mechanic they've fortunately gotten rid of). So yeah, I'm pretty optimistic about the approach they're taking with the Ryder twins. I don't mind the set background either - as long as we can choose how we feel about it, and so far every other Bioware game has allowed us to do that.

I fail to see a nuanced personality in the Inquisitor. He couldn't even be evil or mean.  In my view even the warden had more personality.

I think, sarcastic is rarely funny, rather disillusioned and shows insensitivity (as Anders in Awakening as well, and Hawke). But I can agree, sometimes needed to change the answers, it depended on the my character conception, and of course the stupidity of the answers... For example my mage Hawke was mostly sarcastic with Anders (LI) too, for a little compensation of his often gloomy mood, and his seriousness, and I felt they are buddies, with same problems. But the warrior was mostly kind with him, and more careful, but not with the others (except some really bad joke), sometimes with Bethany also: I choosed the stupid family reunion joke (in Act 2, Qunari mess), and I felt, that's fits that situation. And was not funny at all. So: this two playthrough was actually same, considering the results, two Hawke's personality was "sarcastic/charming", despite I felt them different, because of the mix of responses.

Perhaps because of the personal story line, but Hawke have personality, the Inquisitors more neutral to me, but yes, probably it's just me.

Yeah, that was my main issue with it - the emotions should have come up more often. I'm hoping the 4 tone approach Andromeda seems to be taking will be a sort of improvement on that, we'll have to see.

I often play some degree of good-hearted but with a varying degree of smartass streak hero myself, and I've found I'm usually able to do that. My Cadash was generally good-natured with the occasional quip now and again.

Hopefully we'll see Scotts face. I wonder how he looks now. I don't want to see him from the back all the time.

Spoilers for Trespasser

Hmm, that's fair. I kind of recall the Inquisitor saying that though in a way it fit my serious Inquisitors, but it has been a while since I've played Trespasser because I hate it and it nearly ruins DAI for me. 

To me it came across as completely different people though. Whether it was the writing or the VA's performance, or maybe both, it felt less like one character reacting in different ways as it did a totally different human being with a totally different personality. It was especially jarring if you tried using the different types of responses in a single conversation. You could literally go from making an off-color joke and laughing at someone's expense, to sounding way pissed off, to sounding super patient and sweet in the space of minutes. Real people don't sound like that. In Inquisition though, I could do that. I could just have a conversation where I reacted to that character's dialogue line by line, and it sounded totally natural.

Heh, while the Inquisitor has a better time doing that because his tone voice is more neutral (though it lead to him sounding bland sometimes),  in most/all responses, I didn't find it as jarring. Also, a voice can sound different if you use a more aggressive note compared to when you talk in a more peaceful way. I don't think that's not natural. It might not be the same for everyone, but there are plenty of people that sounds different when they're angry or joking or conversating in a more peaceful way.

And again, while what you said is true, it depends on how and when you used those tones. Depending on what you do use could lead to the situation becoming weird, but it depends on how you used them. If you switch all tones in one dialogue it's normal that Hawke sounded like a crazy man, but inconsistency, regardless if it's about tone, opinions or whatever, is always a risk depending on the choices you pick, for every character.

To clarify, Hawke isn't my favorite Bioware character, I just don't think it was weird to use different tone options, based on the situation you were in. I find it more natural to have those options and reply differently based on the situation then reply with the same tone in all dialogues.