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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2017 19:08:36 GMT
Not sure where this originated from, but here's some SS Ryder art. If someone could post the source of the art itself that's be great *snip* Found itThe artist is nemileh on tumblr. Artist also had an almost full body shot too. Thanks for finding it
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2017 19:19:48 GMT
Ugh, his body proportions bother me so much... his hands and legs are too short, and his torso is too long Why can't I unsee that oh god, nooo. Now that you mention it, I cannot unsee that, either. I really hope we can change his body. He looks like one of those small men with inferiority complex who try to become a body builder to compensate their small height.
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Post by KeiraH on Feb 7, 2017 19:33:45 GMT
Ugh, his body proportions bother me so much... his hands and legs are too short, and his torso is too long Why can't I unsee that oh god, nooo. Now that you mention it, I cannot unsee that, either. I really hope we can change his body. He looks like one of those small men with inferiority complex who try to become a body builder to compensate their small height. I am so sorry But really... short legs are proooobably due to the camera angle. No excuse for such short arms though
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2017 19:37:47 GMT
oh god, nooo. Now that you mention it, I cannot unsee that, either. I really hope we can change his body. He looks like one of those small men with inferiority complex who try to become a body builder to compensate their small height. I am so sorry But really... short legs are proooobably due to the camera angle. No excuse for such short arms though Hopefully, Bioware still works on him... I was already bothered about the broken arm issue in Dragon Age Inquisition when I played as an elf... Don't want to see deformed limbs again.
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 7, 2017 19:49:05 GMT
I wouldn't say he looks deformed, even if it's not the perfect ratio.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2017 19:52:20 GMT
Sorry, but with this small arms and muscular build, he looks kinda dwarfy...That's at least how Sera would call it.
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Post by jjdxb on Feb 7, 2017 19:54:55 GMT
Ugh, his body proportions bother me so much... his hands and legs are too short, and his torso is too long Why can't I unsee that Ugh, his body proportions bother me so much... his hands and legs are too short, and his torso is too long Why can't I unsee that oh god, nooo. Now that you mention it, I cannot unsee that, either. I really hope we can change his body. He looks like one of those small men with inferiority complex who try to become a body builder to compensate their small height. I've spent the last 15 mins holding a tape measure up to my screen to check this. ( ) The average human male is around 8 "heads" tall, Scott is around 7.4 heads tall. The natural bend, i.e. where the torso meets the legs mid crotch should be exactly halfway between the top of the head and the heel. If this holds true for Scott it should be around 3.7 heads, but it's 3.9ish. I can confirm, his torso is longer than it should be for his height OR his legs are too short. Not too much of a difference however, and I think it's a good thing they don't have another. I think Scotty here is just a little on the short side, proportions for us guys don't tend to fall into the ranges that they do for average height males in the west.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2017 20:00:01 GMT
I have no problem with small guys....on the contrary, I like them...but...but his limbs in contradistinction to his whole muscular body and the broad shoulders. It looks very unfitting...
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Post by KeiraH on Feb 7, 2017 20:05:49 GMT
Ugh, his body proportions bother me so much... his hands and legs are too short, and his torso is too long Why can't I unsee that oh god, nooo. Now that you mention it, I cannot unsee that, either. I really hope we can change his body. He looks like one of those small men with inferiority complex who try to become a body builder to compensate their small height. I've spent the last 15 mins holding a tape measure up to my screen to check this. ( ) The average human male is around 8 "heads" tall, Scott is around 7.4 heads tall. The natural bend, i.e. where the torso meets the legs mid crotch should be exactly halfway between the top of the head and the heel. If this holds true for Scott it should be around 3.7 heads, but it's 3.9ish. I can confirm, his torso is longer than it should be for his height OR his legs are too short. Not too much of a difference however, and I think it's a good thing they don't have another. I think Scotty here is just a little on the short side, proportions for us guys don't tend to fall into the ranges that they do for average height males in the west. And I found this: https://www.reddit.com/r/masseffect/comments/5rg8ch/as_an_illustrator_and_a_3d_modeler_with_some/I just hope it looks better in game.
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Post by lamer on Feb 7, 2017 23:03:08 GMT
Just one question. Are devs just going to ignore the fact, that the bodies are FU**NG DWARFY? C'mon Bioware, we're not blind. WTF?!
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Post by Elsariel on Feb 8, 2017 0:41:09 GMT
Aw man.... now I can't unsee either. I'm hoping it's just the bulky armor that makes them look weird and not a base model problem.
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Post by saberchic on Feb 8, 2017 0:46:18 GMT
I think he looks fine. It seems to me like the armor and his pose may cause things to look a bit out of proportion.
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Post by illusivecake on Feb 8, 2017 1:03:34 GMT
I've been thinking the same thing about the body proportions for Scott, but also for Sara and Cora too. Something just seems...off. I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees it.
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Post by Vall on Feb 8, 2017 2:55:07 GMT
OP of that proportions reddit thread obviously didn't take stance, perspective and armor in consideration when making that. They aren't entirely wrong (heads on everyone do seem too big), but they aren't right either.
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Post by normandy on Feb 8, 2017 6:23:09 GMT
She looks fine for me in game.
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Post by jjdxb on Feb 8, 2017 7:03:53 GMT
Also, someone on Reddit pointed out that Shepard is also deformed. 9 heads tall and 4 heads wide acorrding to their measurement. Remember that an averagely proportioned male is 8 tall and 3 wide. Also, I discovered while measuring him that not all the full body shots are the same height from heel to head. This is probably because of the perspective and angle of the camera. It's like the Statue of David. From the viewer perspective (from below) he's perfectly proportioned, but if you are level with him it's obvious his proportions were exaggerated
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 8, 2017 12:00:19 GMT
Th comparison with Shepard is really something I don't understand. Are you seriously expecting Scott to be that smaller then Shepard? Beside, as others as said, the pose he made in the kit makes him look like that. He didn't look like that in game.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2017 12:13:33 GMT
I'd actually like a smaller Scott (but with normal arm length and an adjustable body build, please).
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 8, 2017 12:21:10 GMT
I'd actually like a smaller Scott (but with normal arm length and an adjustable body build, please). Even in the case they implemented different builds, I seriously doubt they went for different heights.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2017 12:27:33 GMT
I'd actually like a smaller Scott (but with normal arm length and an adjustable body build, please). Even in the case they implemented different builds, I seriously doubt they went for different heights. I doubt it, too....but it would still be cute. I like small guys. I hope we'll get at least different builds.. I always thought the protagonists in Bioware games look too muscular, although I understand, that people like this and that it makes sense with military background. But still...a more slimly built person who's still sporty would make sense as well. I hope we can at least change between two or three body types.
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 8, 2017 12:31:15 GMT
Even in the case they implemented different builds, I seriously doubt they went for different heights. I doubt it, too....but it would still be cute. I like small guys. I hope we'll get at least different builds.. I always thought the protagonists in Bioware games look too muscular, although I understand, that people like this and that it makes sense with military background. But still...a more slimly built person who's still sporty would make sense as well. I hope we can at least change between two or three body types. I'd like that as well, and the fact that they didn't outright denied it is a positive thing, because it resembles what they did for the active powers back then and now the revealed we can control more then 3 powers.
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Post by Blue-Slates on Feb 8, 2017 13:32:44 GMT
I'd actually like a smaller Scott (but with normal arm length and an adjustable body build, please). Me too. Unfortunately it looks like BroRyder's at least 6' sine he's taller than Cora who's 5'8". I think different body types like in SWTOR or an adjustable build like fallout 4 would be great (It'd be better if we could get both even, but that's a long shot.) and doable, if BW really wanted. And yeah, not just denying it seems strange. If they expected people to be angry about it, they'll be even more miffed that BW didn't just say no in the beginning. So fingers crossed (Otherwise, there's always headcanon)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2017 13:56:48 GMT
They said nothing about these being final character models guys. They're just images meant to show off character kits. That's why Scott is posing weird, they have weird stares, and some proportions are off.
Some of you really think the devs at Bioware just don't know how to create character models, cause you know, they never had do it in previous games.Their are now tons of people claiming Bioware devs can't make a character model correctly, based off one weird looking image.
This entire conversation is stupid and now it's everywhere, including reddit.
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Post by hammerstorm on Feb 8, 2017 13:59:30 GMT
They said nothing about these being final character models guys. They're just images meant to show off character kits. That's why Scott is posing weird, they have weird stares, and some proportions are off.
Some of you really think the devs at Bioware just don't know how to create character models, cause you know, they never had do it in previous games.Their are now tons of people claiming Bioware devs can't make a character model correctly, based off one weird looking image.
This entire conversation is stupid and now it's everywhere, including reddit.
But hey, at least it is not his hair that people are complaining about. But I must say, even after that people pointing it out, I don't see it as that weird. Maybe I am crazy.
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