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Post by The Elder King on Feb 9, 2017 10:44:06 GMT
The body model of Scott, and the ratio between torso and legs, it's the same in all the shots taken in game. The only one where it didn't is the kit, which, based on previous experience, isn't representive of the character's appearance in the game. Morrigan was different from her kit. He looks fine in the game, so I don't see big reason to worry so far. Well we shall see. Bioware needs to release some gameplay soon They do...for other reasons. They shown Scott already in January at the CES keynote, you can see his body there, along with other shots before, even if you don't consider the cinematic trailers. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 15:58:44 GMT
For people talking about height/character model of Scott (and the fact that this is his thread), just a bit of info from the twitter thread:
An Eagle is a Bird firesheep111
Will I be able to change the height of Ryder?
Michael Gamble @gamblemike
nope. But Sara and Scott are different heights
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Post by saberchic on Feb 9, 2017 16:32:37 GMT
Leave it there all you want. The Scott picture is not the same perspective as Shepard's. Seeing as it's part of the character kit, basically where character models should be in as neutral a pose as possible, i'm pretty sure the proportions are off, angle or not, that just accentuates the effect. I just hope it gets sorted out before the game ships. also if body size proportions are off,this might imply that it doesn;t just effect ryder but all character models. Note for example cora's disproportionately large head We've seen him in game already a few times, and he's looked fine. But if you and others need something to stress over...  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 17:05:51 GMT
For people talking about height/character model of Scott (and the fact that this is his thread), just a bit of info from the twitter thread: An Eagle is a Bird firesheep111 Will I be able to change the height of Ryder? Michael Gamble @gamblemike
nope. But Sara and Scott are different heights Hopefully, they don't give the same answer, when someone asks if we'll be able to change the build... |
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 9, 2017 17:08:22 GMT
For people talking about height/character model of Scott (and the fact that this is his thread), just a bit of info from the twitter thread: An Eagle is a Bird firesheep111 Will I be able to change the height of Ryder? Michael Gamble @gamblemike
nope. But Sara and Scott are different heights Hopefully, they don't give the same answer, when someone asks if we'll be able to change the build... I hope so so, but I doubt it. We're most likely stuck with these builds for Scott and Sarah.  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 17:12:14 GMT
Hopefully, they don't give the same answer, when someone asks if we'll be able to change the build... I hope so so, but I doubt it. We're most likely stuck with these builds for Scott and Sarah. If true, I would be very sad... I always wanted Scott to be more slender and androgynous. |
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 9, 2017 17:16:33 GMT
I hope so so, but I doubt it. We're most likely stuck with these builds for Scott and Sarah. If true, I would be very sad... I always wanted Scott to be more slender and androgynous. Yeah, I was hoping to make them have more lithe builds. |
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Post by Blue-Slates on Feb 9, 2017 18:21:28 GMT
For people talking about height/character model of Scott (and the fact that this is his thread), just a bit of info from the twitter thread: An Eagle is a Bird firesheep111 Will I be able to change the height of Ryder? Michael Gamble @gamblemike
nope. But Sara and Scott are different heights Sigh, so much for my BroRyder being shorter than Cora  (Ah well, headcanon it is!) |
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Post by jjdxb on Feb 9, 2017 18:38:47 GMT
Body customisation was sadly not a feature in either the DA or ME trilogies, so I'm not surprised it isn't one here.
I think it's due to the difficulties of animations and clipping in all those cutscenes. Its easy in Skyrim-like games, but when the fanbase expects cutscenes and sex scenes, it's the first thing to fly out the window.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 9, 2017 18:44:12 GMT
Body customisation was sadly not a feature in either the DA or ME trilogies, so I'm not surprised it isn't one here. I think it's due to the difficulties of animations and clipping in all those cutscenes. Its easy in Skyrim-like games, but when the fanbase expects cutscenes and sex scenes, it's the first thing to fly out the window. Then they should have just come out and said it rather than string people along for months with an answer equivalent to a maybe. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 18:45:16 GMT
Body customisation was sadly not a feature in either the DA or ME trilogies, so I'm not surprised it isn't one here. I think it's due to the difficulties of animations and clipping in all those cutscenes. Its easy in Skyrim-like games, but when the fanbase expects cutscenes and sex scenes, it's the first thing to fly out the window. But they had different builds for the 4 races...so actually, they could give each ryder sibling eat least three different builds to choose from, because we only play as a human and it wouldn't be more work than in DAI with the 4 races. |
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 9, 2017 18:46:39 GMT
Body customisation was sadly not a feature in either the DA or ME trilogies, so I'm not surprised it isn't one here. I think it's due to the difficulties of animations and clipping in all those cutscenes. Its easy in Skyrim-like games, but when the fanbase expects cutscenes and sex scenes, it's the first thing to fly out the window. Then they should have just come out and said it rather than string people along for months with an answer equivalent to a maybe. I don't think they hinted at that before a tweet in December. It wasn't really that long ago. I also don't think lack of height option means there's no body option. |
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 9, 2017 18:48:25 GMT
Then they should have just come out and said it rather than string people along for months with an answer equivalent to a maybe. I don't think they hinted at that before a tweet in December. It wasn't really that long ago. I also don't think lack of height option means there's no body option. December was two months ago, hence I was correct when I said months. Doesn't bode well for what I was hoping for. |
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Post by jjdxb on Feb 9, 2017 18:50:22 GMT
Body customisation was sadly not a feature in either the DA or ME trilogies, so I'm not surprised it isn't one here. I think it's due to the difficulties of animations and clipping in all those cutscenes. Its easy in Skyrim-like games, but when the fanbase expects cutscenes and sex scenes, it's the first thing to fly out the window. Then they should have just come out and said it rather than string people along for months with an answer equivalent to a maybe. I'm not sure I remember the devs ever implying they might include body customisation. Was this a tweet? NVM. A tweet in december Body customisation was sadly not a feature in either the DA or ME trilogies, so I'm not surprised it isn't one here. I think it's due to the difficulties of animations and clipping in all those cutscenes. Its easy in Skyrim-like games, but when the fanbase expects cutscenes and sex scenes, it's the first thing to fly out the window. But they had different builds for the 4 races...so actually, they could give each ryder sibling eat least three different builds to choose from, because we only play as a human and it wouldn't be more work than in DAI with the 4 races. That's certainly true. But then, that's because it was a necessity in order to allow people to play multiple races. They didn't put the effort in for DA:2 for different body types. |
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 9, 2017 18:51:02 GMT
Then they should have just come out and said it rather than string people along for months with an answer equivalent to a maybe. I'm not sure I remember the devs ever implying they might include body customisation. Was this a tweet? Yes, it was a tweet. When asked, they said they'll talk about it more later. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 18:52:38 GMT
Then they should have just come out and said it rather than string people along for months with an answer equivalent to a maybe. I'm not sure I remember the devs ever implying they might include body customisation. Was this a tweet? NVM. A tweet in december But they had different builds for the 4 races...so actually, they could give each ryder sibling eat least three different builds to choose from, because we only play as a human and it wouldn't be more work than in DAI with the 4 races. That's certainly true. But then, that's because it was a necessity in order to allow people to play multiple races. They didn't put the effort in for DA:2 for different body types. But Da2 was very rushed in general (the whole character editor was very limited, except for the hair options), whereas they spent many time with working on ME:Andromeda. |
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Post by jjdxb on Feb 9, 2017 18:58:22 GMT
I'm not sure I remember the devs ever implying they might include body customisation. Was this a tweet? Yes, it was a tweet. When asked, they said they'll talk about it more later. Do you happen to have a link? |
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 9, 2017 18:59:39 GMT
Yes, it was a tweet. When asked, they said they'll talk about it more later. Do you happen to have a link? |
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Post by mikaelnovasun on Feb 9, 2017 19:00:06 GMT
I don't mind the lack for body customization as long as the women who tend to see combat aren't super model thin. It always felt weird to me when Male Shep was built like a linebacker and femshep looked like she would be weighed down by her armor and be better off on a fashion runway. One of the things I like about DA2 is that female Hawke looks like she had a bit of muscle on her.
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Post by jjdxb on Feb 9, 2017 19:05:14 GMT
Do you happen to have a link? Ah. I have to disagree with your opinion that the tweet was misleading, or that they were leading anyone one. They didn't even mention height in their response, only that character generation as a whole would be talked about later on. |
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Feb 10, 2017 0:00:58 GMT
It is not misleading. Nothing was promised or hinted at regarding that. Accept it. Move on.
OT: Scott is freaking hawt. Not changing him. His hair is life.
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Post by Muddy Boots on Feb 10, 2017 1:19:50 GMT
I wonder if the differences between Scott and Sara's dialogue is mainly tone and inflection, with only a few unique. Changes in that convey the same things but can come across differently. Like, a threatening line could be done calm and coldly by Scott, but load and angrily by Sara. It's the exact same line but delivered differently, making each twin still feel unique. If it's like that then I'm fine with differences. It may even lead to me playing a woman in Mass Effect, something I usually only do in DA. I'm thinking the same way. It will be the same thing, get the same results, but just sound different on an emotional level. |
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Post by sageoflife on Feb 10, 2017 1:41:38 GMT
I wonder if the differences between Scott and Sara's dialogue is mainly tone and inflection, with only a few unique. Changes in that convey the same things but can come across differently. Like, a threatening line could be done calm and coldly by Scott, but load and angrily by Sara. It's the exact same line but delivered differently, making each twin still feel unique. If it's like that then I'm fine with differences. It may even lead to me playing a woman in Mass Effect, something I usually only do in DA. I'm thinking the same way. It will be the same thing, get the same results, but just sound different on an emotional level. Something like Conrad Verner's third appearance. When they found out about the Stalker Shrine, FemShep sounded like Conrad was working on her last nerve, while MaleShep sounded like he had just become resigned to Conrad's insanity. |
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Post by Muddy Boots on Feb 10, 2017 1:44:52 GMT
I'm thinking the same way. It will be the same thing, get the same results, but just sound different on an emotional level. Something like Conrad Verner's third appearance. When they found out about the Stalker Shrine, FemShep sounded like Conrad was working on her last nerve, while MaleShep sounded like he had just become resigned to Conrad's insanity. I thought I was the only one who noticed that. I loved hearing that difference. |
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 10, 2017 6:04:45 GMT
I wonder if the differences between Scott and Sara's dialogue is mainly tone and inflection, with only a few unique. Changes in that convey the same things but can come across differently. Like, a threatening line could be done calm and coldly by Scott, but load and angrily by Sara. It's the exact same line but delivered differently, making each twin still feel unique. If it's like that then I'm fine with differences. It may even lead to me playing a woman in Mass Effect, something I usually only do in DA. Sounds logical to me. I can see a decent amount of people complaining if the twins' dialogue was too different from each other especially if it led to different outcomes. Since we can choose from varied personalities such as the one that was hovered over in the game play featuring Sara with the confusion icon, I'm thinking it'll be less about them having different personalities, since we're able to choose different types of dialogue in the first place, and more about how how they are delivered. Sara's comment in the demo "A hothead...great." can be Scott saying "So...a hothead, just what I needed." Simple tweaks like this are the most I expect from varied dialogue (aside from background specific dialogue) in this game. These kinds of things are exactly what I don't want. I want to be able to choose the tone and inflection, not be arbitrarily restricted just because of whether my Ryder is a boy or a girl. |
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