Scott Ryder 'BroRyder' (Official Thread)

Put it in perspective. Look at the plot and the setting.

The plot has you going as the Pathfinder's son along with your twin sibling.
The setting has you entering a program to train you for the job.

It would make absolutely no sense that you have no relationship with your father and sibling.
It's very unlikely that you do not know at least some people throughout training (Liam?).

So if one is complaining about the fact that predetermined relationships exist, then it seems they take issue with the plot and setting.

I don't see how or why they would, considering we don't even have any detailed context yet.

Furthermore, the predetemined relationship extends so far as the beginning of the game. It can be safely assumed that you can develop that relationship in any manner you, the player, feel appropriate. How is that fundamentally different from starting with a blank slate? 

I want him to be my bro. Like total bro. Twins tend to be really close even if they aren't identical. I'd love for them to be thick as thieves, one making a point of who was older by like 2 minutes. Good natured ribbing all the time. Man I really want a sibling I'd love to actually have as a sibling. Sorry Bethany you were reaaaaaally boring. 

God that would be so sad. I want my brother to be ok. :c 

The forced heterosexual background of the pc in Fallout 4 irritated me to no end. One can argue that the pc could be bisexual of course, but that's mostly irrelevant considering they made sure to remove from the game the traits (or whatever they're called) that basically let you "choose" your characters sexuality in some of the previous Fallout games. So as long as bs like that doesn't happen, I'm good. And this is Bioware, I trust them to come through in terms of story telling and character developement (which is why ME3 ending was such a shocker).

As for DA2, I also enjoyed Carver's presence more. The "rivalry" between him and Hawke was done better in my opinion than the "friendship" one with the sister. I think she could have been equally interesting and I certainly would enjoy a nice huggie huggie relationship between siblings, but it depends how well it's being presented.

Now moving on to Scott Ryder and his "predetermined" background. I don't see what the fuss is about. Bioware did this before. A predetermined personality, relationships, etc., all more or less vaguely enough defined so that you could shape the character as you saw fit (within dialogue option constraints obviously). It'll probably be the same. You'll have  a "default" personality, generally described and/or presented which will evolve later on as you play (and refine it to your liking) and for your non playing sibling through dialogue and/or actions.
Personally, based on their looks and voices, I would like to see a warmer type of brother-sister relationship than what Carver had with Hawke. They just seem more on the sweet side of things to me based on those two superficial characteristics we've seen so far...   But hey, if they turn out to be hardcore, jaded, aholes who hate each other... if it's good story telling and good character developement... why the hell not 

Oh, I could have sworn I read about "Complications" with the cryo process or something. I immediately took it as the non-player sibling having physical problems. This may not even be a thing then?

You read correctly, but you may have taken your assumptions a bit far. We don't know that the sibling doesn't make a full recovery.

Story spoilers follow:



Maybe the "other Ryder" gets assigned to a new ship, but I suspect as you do that he or she lands a desk job.

I'm sure he makes a great snowglobe for the first half of the game 

Right but there is nothing that says you can't determine the state of your relationship with these people, just like you could with your Inquisitor.

For example, the player could initially choose to be friendly or hostile towards their father. We're never told that you will be forced to act a certain way.

This is like how it is with Hawke.

Scott is male Ryder's default name, however you can give him any first name you wish.
If you keep the name Scott he will be referred to by that from some people as well as Ryder or Pathfinder, where if he isn't named Scott he will just be referred to by Ryder or Pathfinder. 

I think I'm going for Scott in the first playthrough because I want to test this new 'feature' and see how much it affects the game and my enjoyment.

I'm gonna use my own name for BroRyder when I play for the first time and I'll just keep the default name for SisRyder. Scott doesn't fit me at all and I can't help but think of Scott Summers my least favorite X-Men.

Makes me wish Bioware had the juice to pre-record common first names.

Pretty much the opposite, lol. I'm not an Amercian, and for me Scott sounds like a cool name and exactly fits the image of fearless space explorer, yet Sara... well, I just don't like it.