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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 2, 2016 6:47:11 GMT
You wouldn't need every option imaginable. Having just a few would have been good. But yeah, like you pointed out looks like there is only one model for each gender. So much for Ryder looking like I wanted her to. You'd think the fact we are human-only instead of having race selection like DAI would have led to options. They may surprise us with the variety of body-rigs implemented in game. I wouldn't be surprised if we see at least two different builds per gender for NPCs of each species. Of course, I'd also not be surprised if we don't. For Ryder, though, I bet we get one build. It's just easier for them to handle. If I had to pick one build, at least that's the one I'd have picked for her. I imagine there are likely too many animations to record and translate into the game to offer us a choice of move-sets. That's usually something you see in more narrowly focused games, like fighting or sports games. I can't imagine it in a game of this type and scale. Well, I'm glad you got the body type you wanted for Ryder at least. As for me, I guess that's another thing to be sad about with this game.
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Post by Element Zero on Dec 2, 2016 6:47:53 GMT
They may surprise us with the variety of body-rigs implemented in game. I wouldn't be surprised if we see at least two different builds per gender for NPCs of each species. Of course, I'd also not be surprised if we don't. For Ryder, though, I bet we get one build. It's just easier for them to handle. If I had to pick one build, at least that's the one I'd have picked for her. I imagine there are likely too many animations to record and translate into the game to offer us a choice of move-sets. That's usually something you see in more narrowly focused games, like fighting or sports games. I can't imagine it in a game of this type and scale. Well, I'm glad you got the body type you wanted for Ryder at least. As for me, I guess that's another thing to be sad about with this game. Which type would you have liked to see?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 2, 2016 6:49:40 GMT
Well, I'm glad you got the body type you wanted for Ryder at least. As for me, I guess that's another thing to be sad about with this game. Which type would you have liked to see? I was hoping to be able to have a character with a lithe build, but if what Sarah has is our only option then that won't be happening.
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Post by Element Zero on Dec 2, 2016 7:01:21 GMT
Which type would you have liked to see? I was hoping to be able to have a character with a lithe build, but if what Sarah has is our only option then that won't be happening. Yeah, she's definitely not lithe. Body build selections would be great, but I haven't seen anything to give me hope that they'll be a feature in this game. Sara's compact build has been the same in all of the images we've seen, and Scott has appeared consistent, too. Then, Sloane popped up with Sara's build... Now I'm just hoping we have a good variety of builds in the game, rather than worrying about the character creator.
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Post by hotdogbsg on Dec 2, 2016 9:21:03 GMT
I'm not going to judge based on the few snippets we got from the trailer but the VA's performance during the exchange with the gang leader seemed poor. I understand it was cut down from what we get in game but I found it quite unconvincing.
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Post by Element Zero on Dec 2, 2016 16:52:04 GMT
I'm not going to judge based on the few snippets we got from the trailer but the VA's performance during the exchange with the gang leader seemed poor. I understand it was cut down from what we get in game but I found it quite unconvincing. It was really chopped to bits. All we got was the first line, an answer, and a "get out" line. It's too little for me to judge. I did like Frydda's voice, though, which is the primary thing on which I was focused in that scene, in terms of audio.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 3, 2016 1:44:24 GMT
I was hoping to be able to have a character with a lithe build, but if what Sarah has is our only option then that won't be happening. Yeah, she's definitely not lithe. Body build selections would be great, but I haven't seen anything to give me hope that they'll be a feature in this game. Sara's compact build has been the same in all of the images we've seen, and Scott has appeared consistent, too. Then, Sloane popped up with Sara's build... Now I'm just hoping we have a good variety of builds in the game, rather than worrying about the character creator. Yeah, like you said chances are that won't be an option then.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2016 4:33:26 GMT
Not liking her face, or the animations of it. She looks really young though, much younger than BroRyder. I don't like her default appearance for that reason either. She looks like she's not even old enough to vote. It's hard to take an action hero seriously if they look like a teenager. Hopefully in the CC you can age her up a bit. I haven't seen enough of Scott Ryder yet to judge whether or not he has the same issue, but I hope not. I get that the protagonist is supposed to be younger than Shepard, but I think they may have overdone it a bit.
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Post by BansheeOwnage on Dec 4, 2016 6:51:50 GMT
Both. I have two friends, brother and sister, who are named Scott and Sarah and both love the franchise. Wow, that's awesome! What are the odds? Not liking her face, or the animations of it. She looks really young though, much younger than BroRyder. She'll grow out of it. She looks about the same age as Scott to me. But then again, I'm not the best at guessing age. I am so pleased with her mocapped walk and jog animations. No more DA2/ME3 "sexy run," thank goodness! Me too, and that's a huge understatement! Although I'm dumb, I didn't really clue in that it was because of mocap. Of course it is, Banshee! Just goes to show that nope, real women (or men) don't walk like that. Depending on the game talking about, it would either be very artificial and uncomfortable, or break your spine Which type would you have liked to see? I was hoping to be able to have a character with a lithe build, but if what Sarah has is our only option then that won't be happening. Personally, I was hoping to make a realistic-looking solider, which is what I think the default should be if they're only going for one model. Realism > sex appeal. Though that's referring to how fit she is, not build (you could be fit and lithe). In that regard I'd have made her look like an average woman, not a model. Though probably a bit lankier for my eventual self-insert playthrough. I'm not going to judge based on the few snippets we got from the trailer but the VA's performance during the exchange with the gang leader seemed poor. I understand it was cut down from what we get in game but I found it quite unconvincing. It was really chopped to bits. All we got was the first line, an answer, and a "get out" line. It's too little for me to judge. I did like Frydda's voice, though, which is the primary thing on which I was focused in that scene, in terms of audio. After finally hearing her as Ryder, I came out being fairly neutral about her voice. The acting is fine so far, but as for the voice itself, it didn't really do anything for me either way. It also doesn't sound very unique, either. It's a shame, but certainly better than disliking it. I love Jennifer Hale's voice (and it's instantly-recognizable), Jo Wyatt's was perfect for my Hawke, and I quite liked Sumalee's too (plus it was refreshingly different). I guess my luck had to run out some time! Hmm... "The longer we stay here more games we play, the less luck we're going to have." I don't like her default appearance for that reason either. She looks like she's not even old enough to vote. It's hard to take an action hero seriously if they look like a teenager. Hopefully in the CC you can age her up a bit. I haven't seen enough of Scott Ryder yet to judge whether or not he has the same issue, but I hope not. I get that the protagonist is supposed to be younger than Shepard, but I think they may have overdone it a bit. You think she looks like a teenager? She seems like she's in her early 20s to me. But either way, I'm confident the CC will fix any of your worries.
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Post by dalinne on Dec 4, 2016 9:40:41 GMT
I really loved Fryda's voice. It is exactly way I wanted. Especially that sarcastic inflexion with "A hothead? Great". I percieve her charisma She sounds younger than Shepard but within her voice range.
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Post by javeart on Dec 4, 2016 12:38:27 GMT
Not liking her face, or the animations of it. She looks really young though, much younger than BroRyder. I don't like her default appearance for that reason either. She looks like she's not even old enough to vote. It's hard to take an action hero seriously if they look like a teenager. Hopefully in the CC you can age her up a bit. I haven't seen enough of Scott Ryder yet to judge whether or not he has the same issue, but I hope not. I get that the protagonist is supposed to be younger than Shepard, but I think they may have overdone it a bit. I have the same feeling, and I'm not very thrilled about that either, though Im sure we'll be able to make her look older. Even so, I don't even like that, regardless of what she looks like, she's supposed to be in her what?early twenties? I vastly prefer playing characters that are supposed to be in in their thirties, and I also like having around NPC that are a little older. I liked that it was that way in ME and in DAI.
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Post by Pon.ee on Dec 4, 2016 19:13:16 GMT
Not liking her face, or the animations of it. She looks really young though, much younger than BroRyder. I don't like her default appearance for that reason either. She looks like she's not even old enough to vote. It's hard to take an action hero seriously if they look like a teenager. Hopefully in the CC you can age her up a bit. I haven't seen enough of Scott Ryder yet to judge whether or not he has the same issue, but I hope not. I get that the protagonist is supposed to be younger than Shepard, but I think they may have overdone it a bit. As someone half way to 50 who gets ID'd to buy things you have to be 16 for....I'm down for baby face XD
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Post by jamiecotc on Dec 4, 2016 20:17:41 GMT
Shepard was 29 during Mass Effect 1 and by the end of Mass Effect 3 reached the age of 32, 33, 34 (somewhere in that range). Plus we're used to seeing soldiers either older or at least weathered in video games. (My main Shepard had grey hair and looked like she was close to 50). Ryder, by contrast, is fresh off the boat, still a kid in many ways, I would suspect. Still, everyone has their own personal tastes. I'd be surprised if you can't make Ryder look a little older or at least a little weathered.
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Post by Element Zero on Dec 4, 2016 20:41:50 GMT
Shepard was 29 during Mass Effect 1 and by the end of Mass Effect 3 reached the age of 32, 33, 34 (somewhere in that range). Plus we're used to seeing soldiers either older or at least weathered in video games. (My main Shepard had grey hair and looked like she was close to 50). Ryder, by contrast, is fresh off the boat, still a kid in many ways, I would suspect. Still, everyone has their own personal tastes. I'd be surprised if you can't make Ryder look a little older or at least a little weathered. Minor fact check: Only three years pass during the trilogy. It takes place between 2183 and 2186. Shepard spends two of those years dead. So, technically, Shephard barely ages during the trilogy. That out of the way, I think I like the change to a youthful protagonist. It makes the entire tone of the adventure feel a bit different. I'll need to see how it's executed, obviously, but I like the concept.
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Post by BansheeOwnage on Dec 4, 2016 20:51:38 GMT
I really loved Fryda's voice. It is exactly way I wanted. Especially that sarcastic inflexion with "A hothead? Great". I percieve her charisma She sounds younger than Shepard but within her voice range. Glad you like her. As I said before, her actual acting was fine, I just find her voice generic. It may grow on me as I play. Hopefully. But on the subject of that line... it made be very sad, because autodialogue And not just autodialogue, but opinionated autodialogue I have the same feeling, and I'm not very thrilled about that either, though Im sure we'll be able to make her look older. Even so, I don't even like that, regardless of what she looks like, she's supposed to be in her what?early twenties? I vastly prefer playing characters that are supposed to be in in their thirties, and I also like having around NPC that are a little older. I liked that it was that way in ME and in DAI.Technically Shepard started out as 29 (and didn't age in while dead, so really ends at 30ish), but yeah. Edit: 'd by ElementZero. DA:I was weird, because while we could ostensibly have our character be almost any age, having an older character didn't make sense with some backgrounds. For instance, Trevelyan is the youngest sibling in the family (which implies youth, but doesn't confirm it), and they're currently being prodded into getting a job in the Chantry. Even if they really don't like that idea, I can't see them being older than their late twenties and still not having chosen a job. As someone half way to 50 who gets ID'd to buy things you have to be 16 for....I'm down for baby face XD I know a few people who have the same problem, so Sara's youth doesn't bother me. My girlfriend was offered the kids' menu even in her late teens, and my brother even tends to grow a "pre-release beard" so he won't have to prove his age when buying new games
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Post by Gwydden on Dec 4, 2016 20:59:16 GMT
DA:I was weird, because while we could ostensibly have our character be almost any age, having an older character didn't make sense with some backgrounds. For instance, Trevelyan is the youngest sibling in the family (which implies youth, but doesn't confirm it), and they're currently being prodded into getting a job in the Chantry. Even if they really don't like that idea, I can't see them being older than their late twenties and still not having chosen a job. I don't think 'having a job' would have quite the same connotation in Thedas. Myself, I pictured Trevelyan as somewhere between his late thirties and early forties and headcanonned my way around the issue by figuring that he had been away from home for years, and the moment he got back they started pestering him about that Chantry job.
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Post by Pon.ee on Dec 4, 2016 21:36:34 GMT
As someone half way to 50 who gets ID'd to buy things you have to be 16 for....I'm down for baby face XD I know a few people who have the same problem, so Sara's youth doesn't bother me. My girlfriend was offered the kids' menu even in her late teens, and my brother even tends to grow a "pre-release beard" so he won't have to prove his age when buying new games I got into Fantastic Beasts and were to find them on a children's ticket and no one questioned it Definitely asked for an adult. The team did say that the Ryders were fresh faced spring chickens to this kinda thing, I forget who said it but pretty sure a dev tweeted they were about early to mid twenties. I imagine that will be hard to relate to for some people since a lot of protags tend to be mid to late thirties? I like that we will be inexperienced though. It's nice that you're kinda just a regular Joe that makes their own way I think it'd feel more like the heroism is from my own doing rather than just something tacked onto someone who's already a hero. I mean it's nice to add skills to your CV but like please no XD
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Post by jamiecotc on Dec 4, 2016 21:47:53 GMT
Shepard was 29 during Mass Effect 1 and by the end of Mass Effect 3 reached the age of 32, 33, 34 (somewhere in that range). Plus we're used to seeing soldiers either older or at least weathered in video games. (My main Shepard had grey hair and looked like she was close to 50). Ryder, by contrast, is fresh off the boat, still a kid in many ways, I would suspect. Still, everyone has their own personal tastes. I'd be surprised if you can't make Ryder look a little older or at least a little weathered. Minor fact check: Only three years pass during the trilogy. It takes place between 2183 and 2186. Shepard spends two of those years dead. So, technically, Shephard barely ages during the trilogy. That out of the way, I think I like the change to a youthful protagonist. It makes the entire tone of the adventure feel a bit different. I'll need to see how it's executed, obviously, but I like the concept. Fair enough, but Wrex, among others, refers to Shepard as "old" during the game. Even the Clone calls her "Old Woman". If she is not physically older, ME3 treats her mentally older, weathered and hardened from the physical and emotional turmoil no doubt. There's even a mod to cut down on the wrinkles.
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Post by Element Zero on Dec 4, 2016 22:03:29 GMT
Minor fact check: Only three years pass during the trilogy. It takes place between 2183 and 2186. Shepard spends two of those years dead. So, technically, Shephard barely ages during the trilogy. That out of the way, I think I like the change to a youthful protagonist. It makes the entire tone of the adventure feel a bit different. I'll need to see how it's executed, obviously, but I like the concept. Fair enough, but Wrex, among others, refers to Shepard as "old" during the game. Even the Clone calls her "Old Woman". If she is not physically older, ME3 treats her mentally older, weathered and hardened from the physical and emotional turmoil no doubt. There's even a mod to cut down on the wrinkles. I'm in my late 30s and Shepard looks way older than I do. Way, way older. It's not even close. This is a common thing across the series, though. Anderson is in his late 40s during the trilogy, but looks older, in my opinion. Steven Hackett is just past 50, but looks old as f$&@. BioWare was not consistent with portraying ages in the OT. This is especially odd, considering humans supposedly reach 150, "if we're lucky". Apparently, we dry up by 60 and just sit around for 90 years waiting to die, if the artists are to be trusted. Hopefully, MEA can improve upon this. I have no expectations, honestly. I haven't seen anything to give me overly positive feelings about this engine and its facial textures. It's passable and gets the job done, from what I've seen.
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Post by themikefest on Dec 5, 2016 5:01:05 GMT
I just watched the gameplay again. I like to hear more of Sara's voice in another trailer or gameplay video
Her look is ok. The bouncing when moving was funny to watch. Wonder if that will get fixed? Her smiling was...funny. I'm sure that will get fixed. Curious what other hairstyles will be available for her.
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Post by javeart on Dec 5, 2016 10:26:54 GMT
Fair enough, but Wrex, among others, refers to Shepard as "old" during the game. Even the Clone calls her "Old Woman". If she is not physically older, ME3 treats her mentally older, weathered and hardened from the physical and emotional turmoil no doubt. There's even a mod to cut down on the wrinkles. That's the thing, even if I had to play with a twenty-something PC that looks barely twenty, because there's no way aorund it in the CC, it still would be a minor problem for me, compaired to the emphasis the devs are putting on she being a learning the ropes type of character. That's what I dislike the most. It's not only that Shepard was weathered and hardened by ME3, it's than even in ME1, thanks to the backgrounds you could pick, you get the feeling that she's already been through a lot, that she's someone with experience. I'm very not into the unexperienced angle, completely the opposite, I like characters (PCs and NPCs) with a past, with some knowledge of the world their living, the more the better in fact. For instance, I love the idea of playing a 19 years old Elli in TLoU 2, but she'd definitely be a character that's been through a lot in her (still quite short) life, with experience. And it doesn't really even have to limit RP, IMO, I think ME1 solution was great and proves that it doesn't. The fact that a young-ish PC would probably will mean young-ish companions and LIs (at least the humans), it's not very appealing to me either, though here I'm mostly assuming, because it's true, we know almost nothing about them. Well, I'm assuming a lot, in general, I might find out that I'm not able to tell the difference between how she sounds and how and older chaacter would have sounded, or who knows, I might even end up loving the fresh of the boat thing But for now, personal preferences, I'm not really thrilled about this
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Post by themikefest on Dec 5, 2016 13:09:58 GMT
I'm in my late 30s and Shepard looks way older than I do. Way, way older. It's not even close.
This is a common thing across the series, though. Anderson is in his late 40s during the trilogy, but looks older, in my opinion. Steven Hackett is just past 50, but looks old as f$&@. BioWare was not consistent with portraying ages in the OT. This is especially odd, considering humans supposedly reach 150, "if we're lucky". Apparently, we dry up by 60 and just sit around for 90 years waiting to die, if the artists are to be trusted. Hopefully, MEA can improve upon this. I have no expectations, honestly. I haven't seen anything to give me overly positive feelings about this engine and its facial textures. It's passable and gets the job done, from what I've seen. I had a platoon sergeant who looked like he was in his 70's, but was only 37. People age differently. Some look older, some look younger than their age. Look at Chakwas. She didn't look her age. If I was to shave off my goatee, I would look 10 years younger. The only way you would notice I'm older is the gray hairs in my goatee.
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Post by Serza on Dec 5, 2016 15:54:53 GMT
Yeah. I was told I look 25-ish back when I was still nineteen.
And "generic" voice is another non-issue for me. Generic means anyone could have it, which... not a problem.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Dec 5, 2016 18:33:15 GMT
That's the thing, even if I had to play with a twenty-something PC that looks barely twenty, because there's no way aorund it in the CC, it still would be a minor problem for me, compaired to the emphasis the devs are putting on she being a learning the ropes type of character. That's what I dislike the most. It's not only that Shepard was weathered and hardened by ME3, it's than even in ME1, thanks to the backgrounds you could pick, you get the feeling that she's already been through a lot, that she's someone with experience. I'm very not into the unexperienced angle, completely the opposite, I like characters (PCs and NPCs) with a past, with some knowledge of the world their living, the more the better in fact. For instance, I love the idea of playing a 19 years old Elli in TLoU 2, but she'd definitely be a character that's been through a lot in her (still quite short) life, with experience. And it doesn't really even have to limit RP, IMO, I think ME1 solution was great and proves that it doesn't. The fact that a young-ish PC would probably will mean young-ish companions and LIs (at least the humans), it's not very appealing to me either, though here I'm mostly assuming, because it's true, we know almost nothing about them. Well, I'm assuming a lot, in general, I might find out that I'm not able to tell the difference between how she sounds and how and older chaacter would have sounded, or who knows, I might even end up loving the fresh of the boat thing But for now, personal preferences, I'm not really thrilled about this I fully agree! More life experience = more interesting to me. Of course it makes sense to send young people on the voyage so I guess it's fine. They could do time jumps like in DA2 to simulate maturing. I'd like that a lot. I love Shepard exactly for the reasons you stated. There is nothing interesting about a bright-eyed sheltered young protagonist who's not experienced any hardships in life yet. It's fine if these things happen in-game as the story progresses. I mean, the shit that happened to Hawke and their family was bad. And they were refugees. If this sort of narrative was a blueprint for MEA, I'd be all for it. Yet I look at that snippet of Sara and I see a naive child and it's not appealing at all to me personally. Of course that first impression might not be accurate. And we don't know the background of the siblings. But everything about Sara screams joyful and optimistic, that bounce in her step... Tt's part of my issue with the inquisitor as well. Apart from the scary situation with the anchor (and the consequence in Trespasser), nothing too bad happens to the hero personally. Sure, Haven burned down and people died. But they were not family members or friends. Subjecting the inquisitor to the Solas romance and having her entire world turned upside down regarding her own people is the closest thing to a profound experience I can think of. But at no point did the inquisitor have it particularly rough unless you specifically roleplay such a background. But then the whole overly pleasant schoolteacher demeanor wouldn't make sense. Which brings me back to my point I made elsewhere that the roleplaying opportunities were actually severely restricted compared to Hawke ironically. Aggressive Hawke is an unpleasant person. And I roleplayed her as somebody who was extremely angry at the world for the shit card she and her family was dealt. I could do that because these three personalities were actually very different from each other. Both the setting and the dialogue choices made the inquisitor hard to roleplay for me as somebody other than a clueless idiot. I HOPE Andromeda gives us far greater ropelaying opportunities from diplomatic to downright rude and ruthless as time goes by and things don't go as planned. If Ryder doesn't have intriguing backgrounds to choose from that are being referenced throughout the game, I want to see some character development as I play. These things take time though, people don't change over night, so time jumps are still my personal preference. It would also be a handy tool to show how colonization progresses. If Ryder actually aged visibly, that would be the icing on the cake.
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Post by Element Zero on Dec 5, 2016 19:11:02 GMT
You ladies seem to be building some pretty intricate personality profiles for Sara Ryder based off of very limited data. Is she young? Yes. Is she a completely unprepared, untrained child? No. Kappa Neko even called her naive. I never saw naive. I saw the confident swagger of a Pathfinder, and choices made by the player that I'd not have made myself. (Escalating a social encounter solely to demo that interrupt/disarm.) I'm in my late 30s, now. I get the appeal of a more mature protagonist, and the potential hurdles in connecting with a younger one. It's a key part of the narrative of MEA, though. We get to guide Ryder's growth. Even when I was young, I was advanced far beyond most people my age, and even the vast majority of adults to be honest (maybe not in experience, but undeniably in abilities.) BioWare never assigns us peasant #8 as our PC. Ryder will be special from the start. Already, she has completed pathfinder training before we even take the wheel. She won't be some naive child, unless you choose to play her that way. The same applies to her companions. We aren't hanging with the Disney kids in this game. All indications are that Cora and Drack were fighting beside Alec Ryder before they join our Ryder. They've likely had extensive combat training and/or experience. I don't see any little kids. Real life wars are fought mostly by people this age, not by old folks our age. We are the minority on the battlefield.
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