Pre-orders (Official Thread)

If you are going to compare video games to something how about something that is a related entertainment product. I would be willing to take a risk on a video game, but not something that could kill another person and I be found liable for any potential damage to that person or even the environment around it.  As far as I can tell there are pre-orders for any entertainment product out there and some are cheaper, but there are things that are more expensive as well.

Again, I am not saying you are wrong about not liking the idea of pre-orders I just didn't care for insulting the people that don't mind the risk.

Neither did I really but then I didn't get into Mass Effect until just before ME3 came out so didn't really have to wait long for the completion of that trilogy. I was late in getting DAI as well  as I wasn't sure I wanted it at first mostly because I had trouble figuring out the mechanics of the DA games at that time. I have since then bought the strategy guide and since then I've thoroughly enjoyed playing the games. Because I've now figured out how those games work as well and I now can design some interesting characters around it.

I got late into the ME series as well, but I "joined" a few months after ME2 released: there was a sale and I got both ME games for $16.

I played the crap out of them. I basically played them in a loop for 3 months with a lot more ME2: I tried most complete playthrough, shortest one, various classes, etc. I have never done that with any other game series. Yet, despite that, I didn't pre-order ME3. I didn't even buy it on release day (it took a few weeks). 

Unlike some people here, I haven't been "burned" by a pre-order yet either. I never hated a game I pre-ordered (I like all DA games, sue me) and finished all of them (kinda, I never finished Skyrim, but I have over 220 hours in it) . I can't say as much of my Steam/GOG sales purchase though, most of the time I don't finish those games and find them boring after a few hours.

Neither have I but then I'm usually very careful about what games I get mostly because of my disability and the fact I play with only 1 hand on the controls it can make some games pretty hard to play it's partly why I like Bioware's games as much as I do tbh. Bioware's games once you undrestand the general mechanics of the game aren' t too tough to beat and have tons of replay value as well not many game companies can say this about their games like Bioware can. I don't play multiplayer mostly again due to my disability not to mention also you can get stupid kids ruining he whole experience as well and I generally prefer to work through a good story which for me is another box Bioware usually ticks more often than  not. There aren't many good single player games out there any more as a lot of people turn to multiplayer for their entertainment but for me singleplayer will always be priority. I've almost clocked 2500 hours into DAI alone throughout my various playthroughs and all of it in Singleplayer and that's not counting the hours I've put into DAO and DA2 and the ME trilogy. I love all 6 games and based  on what I've seen of MEA  thus far I don't think I'm going to be disappointed by that game either. Only time will tel though but right now I'm pretty hyped for the game.

No, maybe 1-2 week before the release date but not now. There are plenty of good RPG's coming next year ( Nioh, Horizon Zero Dawn, Persona 5, Nier Automata and Dark Souls III 2nd DLC ).

I'm at a point in life where buying a game or two at full price isn't an issue.  And for entertainment value, I feel BioWare games have a great return on investment.

So for me, pre-ordering is giving a game developer that I love a vote of confidence and I'm also paying forward to a future of continued quality from BioWare.

You're missing the point entirely. It's not about if you can afford it or not, it's about how we are treated as customers. A lot of developers today have little to none appreciation for their loyal customers. I really hope I don't have to start listing major failures of last five years for example. Take NMS for example: devs promise a lot of things and people buy the game and get half of it. Some might still enjoy the game, but they didn't get what they paid for. That's just wrong. And if you support them with that, then you have absolute no right to complain when they fuck you over again. Because you let them know they can fuck you again. (i'm talking generally, not specifically about you btw). Why can't they just be honest and sell games? it used to be like that and it worked, why can't it work now? But since you mention Bioware and since we are talking about Mass effect I'll go back to ME3. I really hate to bring it up and beating the dead horse over again, especially because I don't think of Bioware as a bad company, but ME3 endings were serious letdown for many. (Also let's not forget about day one dlc for ME3). Developers talking about how much our choices matter and how we'll have different endings and they we got you know what. That's a big deal. Recently I read a book and I really enjoyed it, but endings was just crappy and felt rushed and didn't provide good conclusion. Needless to say, it ruined whole book for me. Also, I haven't play Dragon Age Inquisituon or any of the titles in the series, but I keep hearing it was quite a disappointment.

yeah that's how I feel about it too I love everything they've done with the ME and DA series so chances of me not liking Andromeda are pretty remote and in fact the last trailer even made  me even more excited for it. So I'm not expecting a bad game. Granrted they have ground to make up due to some fans feelings about ME3's ending but for me I'm happy with everything. Bioware's games aer going to reward you for buying them due to their general size and replayability of them most games these days only have playthroughs that last about 10-20 hours at most. Bioware's games cqan clock up to 200 just in 1 playthrough and there are many ways to approach each game too thereby encouraging multiple runs. I've nearly done 2500 hours in DAI alone across about 10 playthrughs now I think and I think I'm near or just over 1000 hours on each of the ME games as well which I'll likely add too as I'm likely to be squeezing another 2/3 playthroughs of the trilogy before Andromeda releases in preparation for it.

I feel pretty similar.


I've played good and bad games that I haven't pre-ordered, and good and bad games I have pre-ordered.



Mass Effect: Andromeda is the only video game I'm interested in right now. Nothing else interests me or catches my attention. I'm a really hella picky person, especially when it comes to the games I play. I'm 90 percent sure Andromeda will be worth the money.



I will take a break from video games for the forseeable future after I buy and play Andromeda. I'm getting hella tired of the whole industry.

Because if you don't like one title in one series, that's enough of a reason to not discuss and play all their games in the future? What kind of logic is that?  Besides, most player's only problem with ME3 were endings. You don't have to be complete white knight in order to enjoy games from particular developer.

I never pre-order.