Reyes Vidal - No longer A Mystery (Official Thread)

Also I recommend keeping Raeka alive! She's way too cool to die for no-name Krogan.

Hmm, I believe we sorta agree, sorta disagree, but have largely the same opinion on the original topic.

We should’ve gotten to see a scene like that on an archived cam feed or something.  I can perfectly imagine their expressions in my mind’s eye - wish I could draw better lol. If Jaal’s to be believed, Reyes is extremely not a likeable type in the Angaran culture to begin with, so extra stuffy guy like Evfra probably absolutely hates him.

Makes me wonder actually what Jaal does with the knowledge about the Charlatan. We know Ryder tattles to the Nexus, but does Jaal let Moshae know? We know that Evfra’s clueless, but Jaal might consider discreetly confiding in the Moshae. Of course, that would still risk conflict with Ryder…

I think Reyes may at least start to consider a more large-scale weapon production, once Sloane’s dead. Of course, the demand may drop at least momentarily after the Kett depart and there being less criminal competition with the Outcasts squashed. The alliance with Ryder and AI makes it far riskier to steal from the Nexus, however, so there's not many available sources. Stealing from AI, is practically stealing from Ryder – a bad look for Reyes.

I can imagine one of the brainy Collective Salarians tinkering around with remtech for their own new, imaginative prototypes. Reyes already has the Collective looking into the native fauna (the caged animals whose name I'll never ever remember) and flora (the poison plants), so he's open to new opportunities. Making a note when Ryder's destroyed a remnant robot nest and going to pick the place clean after could yield some materials at least.

People look up to the Pathfinders because they can quite quickly determine if a planet is hospitable with the help of their SAMs. They are who find homes for everyone, map the new galaxy, find new species (of course Ryder is also problem solver for everybody and their dog). Now that the remnant have been discovered, they are also the only ones, if the others ever get this ability as well that is, able to interact with this tech.

Adhi^^

Yes, stolen from pirates, Outcasts, other exiles. Nexus stuff better be off-limits now. They make their own weapons, too, I suppose, some of the Helius weapons we can craft as well. And they pick through the salvage of ships and perhaps destroyed remnant, sure. He did business with Aroane in the past, who in turn received his stuff from Spender. There is a terminal with Aroane's shipments on Kadara but I don't remember where it is, only have a screenshot as a reminder. Shipment 346-1 says:

Status: Received
Client: Reyes
Recipient: Aroane
Contents: Regular munitions shipment.

It would be great if something like the Shadow broker’s stalk galaxy wide surveillance room turned out somewhere, this would be a must have footage in it.

Now I’ll probably always hold that the Shena nickname is actually a product of Evfra getting all talked to submission

With Jaal, there’s always the possibility he’s exaggerating a bit. First, he hates Kadara, second, he’s probably secretly annoyed by someone robbing him of the position of the most dashing thing in sight...

But the demand dropping? Come on... in several decades, perhaps... Let’s hope the Collective Salarians are brainy enough to figure something out. Hmm, actually now I wonder what position the Collective will hold when they grow a bit more, given that by now they are well on the way towards a spy network... a spy network with all the cutting edge resources? Now that sounds useful. (Or they could always sell pets, I guess)

Can they, though? Or is it just the Ryder super-SAM? Well, it still seems the other pathfinders just leave it to Ryder and go about their own business but do they even have the means?

Quite random, but does anyone know the music played during Reyes' rooftop scene? It's literally the only song I felt moved by out of the whole game.... and I can't even find it -- anywhere, besides if I look up the scene itself. D:

I wish we saw more of how the Collective works, and met some of Reyes' inner circle (Keema's on a member of the Collective, as I understood it). (I don't remember if I've posted about this recently or just thought about it.) Like I'm curious about things like that sniper who later bragged to Kaetus (he had sort of unique face for someone who the player scarcely sees). Those who know Reyes personally must have gone through a very thorough vetting.

If someone has that, it’s the Collective. So all we need is an invitation to Reyes’ nice little command center somewhere…

Yeah, sounds like Reyes didn’t come up with the codename himself, since he found it more than a little embarrassing.

<abbr title="Jul 31, 2017 16:32:13 GMT 2" data-timestamp="1501511533000" class="o-timestamp time">Jul 31, 2017 16:32:13 GMT 2</abbr> orchid said:
Bah. Ryder stole that first, then Liam, then Drack, then, um, Kallo. Reyes outshines everybody, of course, but by then Jaal has nothing to lose, hehe.

Still, his “bad boy” comment sounds sincere. Also Ryder should have an option to own that and not so often go “what?? n-no!!” when someone points out they’re in wuw with Reyes.

No Kett to kill, no Outcasts to kill, the Collective under orders not to shoot at Ryder (and I assume leaving the AI people/goods alone at least for the most part) - I think there's a drop. The sales will pick up again once the Angara and the AI start preparing for Kett revenge, but by then the Angara should have better opportunities for their own production. There are unaffiliated pirates and the Roekaar, sure, but I must admit I really hate that a supposedly gigantic section of Milky Way people have become cannon fodder (it's not sustainable! we need a big gene pool for a healthy population!). Of course, there may be new enemies and maybe larger Angaran factions that oppose the Initiative. The thing with Morda's colony can go many ways, too. So, in short, you're right that in the ME universe there's always a need for guns.&nbsp;

The Collective might indeed become more like information broker network, only even shadier than Shadow Broker was. There could even be branching: choose Sloane, and Reyes steers the Collective towards more white collar crime, assassinations, and info-acquiring while still being presentable to the AI; choose Sloane, and they're more militant and pirate-like.

LOL at Reyes the pet shop owner. Is this becoming a theme?

He did business with Aroane in the past, who in turn received his stuff from Spender. There is a terminal with Aroane's shipments on Kadara but I don't remember where it is, only have a screenshot as a reminder. Shipment 346-1 says:

Status: Received
Client: Reyes
Recipient: Aroane
Contents: Regular munitions shipment.

Yes, I want to know how many people really know who he is. There's also a salarian, some woman and probably a pilot we don't see when he flees.

He's also good at playing a dying salarian^^.

I dunno, do Salarians also have caved in chests like the Angara? I mean, they do look sort of concave, but not downright pectus excavatum.

Haha, I’m exactly the same, just drive past most fights. Deeper immersion than even the devs expected, lol. Also the fights are repetitive, aimless and there’s no feeling of reward for going through them. :/

You’re probably right about the Collective needing to go stealthily underground. However, it would be way harder to become big game information brokers like that. I guess they’d just be a lesser, dinghier version, or disappear completely, with only Reyes still out there with a grudge.

If Reyes ever returns in a pro-Sloane situation, I hope they won’t smooth out him meeting Ryder again. I think he’d be extremely pissed off and absolutely antagonistic. I fear they might go the “nothing has any weight and there are no conflicts in Ryder’s circle” route and just have him and Ryder argue for a bit and then start working together like making him lose literally everything wasn’t really a big deal. I’d even argue for a reconciliation* not being possible at all, and that romance should be altogether out of the window (except maybe for a quick hate fuck? dunno, Reyes might fit that).

*a genuine one, that is - Reyes can play nice for pretense, of course, if it profits him

I've never forgotten~ Scott can retire with him, in a few decades’ time, and they can sing covers of PSB hits together for an audience of kittens.


On a more serious point, I’m not sure Reyes can be assumed to be an unequivocal animal lover. The adhi are obviously bred and trained to be used in battle. This is inhumane to both the animals and of course the people that get torn to shreds by war beasts.

Thank you so much! I tried to make him seem a little bit more like an asshole because, I mean, Reyes isn't sunshine and roses, especially when you have something he wants. I'm so glad that you enjoyed it! I love characters like Johnny Gat and Carlos Mendoza (like seriously, they are my murder boys and I love them)&nbsp;

The lack of talk about single player DLC has me nervous. I really hope if they do end up scrapping DLC that they do Reyes comic books- like officially canonizing how he got his start fighting up against Sloane Kelly. Of course there's a part of me that wants the mystery, if there is no more Reyes in the future, I'll take that instead.&nbsp;

Ooh, I've read that post before, but I completely missed the part about Meriweather. I'm not sure I'd trust the Salarian's knowledge, though, since not even Crux has seen Reyes (unless she lies, could be). Also, Crux tells that the Charlatan’s representatives all have code names, like herself. Meriweather, now, is that a code name or a regular last name, like it sounds like? Could be Meriweather may have previously been in the Collective (but would they be lax about someone leaving? gangs never are), but during Vetra’s mission she seems very independent.

Oh wow I didn't know he worked with Aroane.

I dunno, do Salarians also have caved in chests like the Angara? I mean, they do look sort of concave, but not downright pectus excavatum.

I also wonder whether Umi knows. That Charlatan allusion in the Zia conversation is so far fetched it's suspicious...

Ooh, I've read that post before, but I completely missed the part about Meriweather. I'm not sure I'd trust the Salarian's knowledge, though, since not even Crux has seen Reyes (unless she lies, could be). Also, Crux tells that the Charlatan’s representatives all have code names, like herself. Meriweather, now, is that a code name or a regular last name, like it sounds like? Could be Meriweather may have previously been in the Collective (but would they be lax about someone leaving? gangs never are), but during Vetra’s mission she seems very independent.

The sniper being an older man made me ponder him for some reason. Maybe Reyes and he (+ some other Collective people) go way back, even Milky Way. People Reyes knew from before, and who stayed with him as he concocted his plan for the Collective. He didn’t really plan on becoming the Charlatan, it just happened as a side product from his leading style, so there’s an interesting story there. I wish we’ll hear more about it, some day.

I dunno, do Salarians also have caved in chests like the Angara? I mean, they do look sort of concave, but not downright pectus excavatum.

Haha, I’m exactly the same, just drive past most fights. Deeper immersion than even the devs expected, lol. Also the fights are repetitive, aimless and there’s no feeling of reward for going through them. :/

You’re probably right about the Collective needing to go stealthily underground. However, it would be way harder to become big game information brokers like that. I guess they’d just be a lesser, dinghier version, or disappear completely, with only Reyes still out there with a grudge.

If Reyes ever returns in a pro-Sloane situation, I hope they won’t smooth out him meeting Ryder again. I think he’d be extremely pissed off and absolutely antagonistic. I fear they might go the “nothing has any weight and there are no conflicts in Ryder’s circle” route and just have him and Ryder argue for a bit and then start working together like making him lose literally everything wasn’t really a big deal. I’d even argue for a reconciliation* not being possible at all, and that romance should be altogether out of the window (except maybe for a quick hate fuck? dunno, Reyes might fit that).

*a genuine one, that is - Reyes can play nice for pretense, of course, if it profits him

It’s when Ryder meets him at Kralla’s before starting the hunt for Zia. Maybe Reyes is already thinking that he needs to kill her for meddling with his operations. A ruthless man.

I've never forgotten~ Scott can retire with him, in a few decades’ time, and they can sing covers of PSB hits together for an audience of kittens.


On a more serious point, I’m not sure Reyes can be assumed to be an unequivocal animal lover. The adhi are obviously bred and trained to be used in battle. This is inhumane to both the animals and of course the people that get torn to shreds by war beasts.

I can’t see Reyes being fiercely protective of anything except his own butt. He’s not the type (thank god). Nope, not even doggies - he’s a bastard like that.

About comics, most of the glimpses I’ve seen of ME tie-in comics have been… bad. Like “not knowing how to draw a turian” level of bad.. Though that was way back. Maybe MEA comics are better? The one about Garrus between ME1 and ME2 was written by one of the actual game writers and actually looked decent, I think, but then again it was probably high priority. With Reyes, they’d probably have less quality control and we’d end up with shit. Also I’d be unhappy if they drew Reyes wrong, like in that mural. :<

Ooh, I've read that post before, but I completely missed the part about Meriweather. I'm not sure I'd trust the Salarian's knowledge, though, since not even Crux has seen Reyes (unless she lies, could be). Also, Crux tells that the Charlatan’s representatives all have code names, like herself. Meriweather, now, is that a code name or a regular last name, like it sounds like? Could be Meriweather may have previously been in the Collective (but would they be lax about someone leaving? gangs never are), but during Vetra’s mission she seems very independent.

I also wonder whether Umi knows. That Charlatan allusion in the Zia conversation is so far fetched it's suspicious...

Hell yeah, how could I forget.. he makes a very good dying salarian. But still.. most dying people do not exactly abound with... allure

Lol,; I never thought about it that way. Guess I'm too distracted by the fact that Salarians seem to have gotten a lot higher since the OT. (I also may just have a bit of trouble to take Kallo and Gil seriously after reading that Gil/Kallo porn.. but seriously there was no resisting that.. "does it get any more ridiculous than this?" my masochistic brain went, and there it was...)

I like an occasional fight or ten when I don't feel like doing anything mega Heleus-shattering at the moment, which is quite often as it fits my slackish gameplay style. I just prefer to take it out on the Kett... or endless Havarl wildlife. But the exiles? Hell, unless they breed like bunnies and grow up incredibly fast, nope.
... Or they would survive and be forced to adapt, making them a nigh invincible information brokers.. with a grudge. They seemed like a clever bunch (save for the imposter one, she was dumb af)
Hmmm, the non-romanced e-mails certainly sound a bit like that. But the "one hell of a woman" one? It doesn't strike me as too hateful off or antagonistic. I find it kinda hard to predict his reaction to meeting Ryder in that case. But it might be fun to let them have a headache inducing fight about it all _{(which would probably have to be ended by Drack sending each of them into a separate corner of the room or something because he won't put up with their shit any longer)} . In my version of pro-Sloane situation, the feeling of having stuff to say to the other one would be very mutual.

Now, that vision is worrying But the name and the sign would be totally perfect. I hope they wouldn't settle for anything less.
And yep, he's a bastard, nobody doubts that. But even bastards may have soft spots.. actually, seems to me kinda everyone has. Not saying it has to be animals in his case, though.

Well, you generally made him an asshole because he is kind of an asshole. Good insight into the character, I say (I'm also curious about the new stuff but I'm keeping it for the next week, I'll need something to do on the beach when I'm forced to get out of the water )
I've come to the conclusion that worrying about DLC is just pointless. Either there is some, or there isn't. If there isn't... there will be lots of mad headcanoning and no official force to stop me.

Huh, I thought they said during the mission that Meriweather eventually chose to go it alone... hence her moving on to some shithole asteroid and all that

Aw, so you're telling me you couldn't see Reyes and a cute doggo going through a stereotypical Hallmark movie scenario.

Still, how often does the boogeyman of Kadara get personally involved in lives of inconsequential smugglers and why would anyone expect them to? Might be she's just teasing Reyes and that's all there is, though

What is weird about it is that he would be like that one in one one four/five scenarios, while the last one reads... like a compliment, perhaps? Weird, given the situation because you generally summed the consequences up perfectly (even though the helmet part is a bit dramatic ). Which somehow gets me quite pessimistic about all the outcomes having an alternate conversation if Reyes shows up again. And again less pessimistic, because angry is probably what he'll be, since that's the majority of his responses. Thus, less strange forgiveness around is almost granted. Hmm, he definitely should come back, the possibilities... I don't really think his relationship with Ryder, be it what it were, couldn't evolve any further and it would be intriguing if it did... the romance/friendship paths is these games could be less straightforward for my liking anyway...
_{Btw if he would make a return, the RP mess levels would be just wonderful. As in I'd be all over it.}
Also yep, angry casual sex seems hot.

It does nothing for me. It pretends to be launching the game for a while and then it stops working. I'm back at 1.09 for the moment, can live without a few changes, can't live without all those lovely mods.