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Post by izjaslav on Aug 3, 2017 4:24:40 GMT
I've recently finished Kadara. 1st time, 1st playthrough (I finally managed to run the game on my laptop, and there was much rejoicing, since it's several Gb behind on required RAM, so it shouldn't have worked at all). What I wanted to say... even on low settings (as in the lowest of low) Reyes looks dreamy in comparison to any other human (or non-human, come to think of it) male in Andromeda. I can't believe they made him with CC. Also. I can't believe there is SO. LITTLE. CONTENT. It's ridiculous. Is he supposed to be a fling like those 2 females, what were their names?.. But saddest thing of all is that I can't for the life of me see this particular relationship lasting for long, even if we are to treat it like a full romance. Too many obstacles and to much effort required to keep the romance nicely simmering. Or so it seems to me, at the moment.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 3, 2017 4:29:25 GMT
I've recently finished Kadara. 1st time, 1st playthrough (I finally managed to run the game on my laptop, and there was much rejoicing, since it's several Gb behind on required RAM, so it shouldn't have worked at all). What I wanted to say... even on low settings (as in the lowest of low) Reyes looks dreamy in comparison to any other human (or non-human, come to think of it) male in Andromeda. I can't believe they made him with CC. Also. I can't believe there is SO. LITTLE. CONTENT. It's ridiculous. Is he supposed to be a fling like those 2 females, what were their names?.. But saddest thing of all is that I can't for the life of me see this particular relationship lasting for long, even if we are to treat it like a full romance. Too many obstacles and to much effort required to keep the romance nicely simmering. Or so it seems to me, at the moment. Avela Kjar and Keri T'Vessa. Also I don't know if those two are meant to be flings, since both seem to suggest that their relationship with Ryder will or at least can continue. I hope so anyway. Anyway, I think Reyes is not on their tier since he gets referenced by the others in the game, but maybe not on the same tier as the crew and squad either. Somewhere in the middle.
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Post by tehprincessj on Aug 3, 2017 4:54:35 GMT
I've recently finished Kadara. 1st time, 1st playthrough (I finally managed to run the game on my laptop, and there was much rejoicing, since it's several Gb behind on required RAM, so it shouldn't have worked at all). What I wanted to say... even on low settings (as in the lowest of low) Reyes looks dreamy in comparison to any other human (or non-human, come to think of it) male in Andromeda. I can't believe they made him with CC. Also. I can't believe there is SO. LITTLE. CONTENT. It's ridiculous. Is he supposed to be a fling like those 2 females, what were their names?.. But saddest thing of all is that I can't for the life of me see this particular relationship lasting for long, even if we are to treat it like a full romance. Too many obstacles and to much effort required to keep the romance nicely simmering. Or so it seems to me, at the moment. Reyes has an exclusivity lock-on, while those other 2 don't, and Keri downright encourages Ryder to "cheat" if you're locked into someone else (did it on a playthrough while romancing Jaal early on, and hated the entire experience). While it's difficult to imagine something long-lasting between Ryder and Reyes, I still think it's always worth going for it. My Sara goes with her gut most of the time, and Reyes makes me happy RIGHT NOW, and that's all that matters.
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Post by orchid on Aug 3, 2017 5:22:22 GMT
But still, how exactly is hinting such nonsense supposing to be alarming? It would be more alarming if she told him Zia was speaking with a talking fiend or something equally probable (don’t mind me, now I’m just being difficult on purpose) Is that a subtle hint? Sometimes I feel I have too many effortposts in this thread, should probs tone it down. But yes, if Umi brought up talking animals, it would be alarming as in Umi having gone bonkers. Zia talking with the Charlatan (in Umi’s understanding) could mean that Reyes is in trouble, since it’s understood that Zia and Reyes aren’t on the best terms anymore. Umi wants to rattle Reyes with the idea that the Charlatan maybe wants to muscle in on his itty bitty smuggling enterprise. The line is a demonstration of how the Port denizens see the Charlatan as a shadowy boogeyman – this is the kind of vague, menacing manner his increasing influence is made manifest to and by the people, without him having to do much himself. The reputation builds itself (a bit like the Archons in Tyranny, if anybody’s played that game). It’s of course funny that Reyes is the target here, but that is also a deliberate, contrasting illustration of just how clever he has been in presenting as an unsuspicious smuggler. I also like to imagine how Reyes goes to “investigate the Collective link” by going to Tartarus, ordering drinks, and just parking his ass on the couch to wait for when Ryder calls him. (ok I’m not toning it down yet, apparently) Well, as I said I didn’t think anything in particular because it was hard to fit in context. Now I’m inclined to agree with you, though I’d still say it’s supposed to be covering for anything and everything, so its impact can’t be felt as much as that of the most explicit versions of the message. Unless you realize all this, that is. But then it still seems more hurt and less angry, as the I’m doing it anyway, just watch me part is missing. Heh, the rapport thing goes both ways, though. They’d generally have to start from the beginning, much less starry eyed, much more cautious about the other, their motivations and their possible actions. It wouldn’t be that casual game they started on Kadara, it could no longer be one because the two of them sadly can’t merely play, since there is usually too much at stake. But damn, would it be fascinating, no matter if the romance would eventually get to continue or not. True. There’s greater amount of people who sided with Sloane and dislike Reyes altogether, than those that like Reyes and want more of him, but still chose Sloane. Pro-Sloane folks should of course ideally get most content with her, lest the High Noon choice lose meaning. For majority, the choice is just with whom they want their Ryder to deal with. This would unfortunately limit the options for us Reyes fans. Out of curiosity, in what kind of situation would your Ryder be willing to try again with Reyes? If I remember right, you weren’t a fan of any “redemption” thing for Reyes, so he’d still be the scheming, lying murderer we know and love. Is the deal that Reyes can freely use similar tactics in the future (because he absolutely will), only Ryder and her honor mustn’t get caught in the middle? I hope your mod manager problem gets solved. You could also check the Nexus forum for the manager if anyone has the same problem. Good luck. :smiles: But saddest thing of all is that I can't for the life of me see this particular relationship lasting for long, even if we are to treat it like a full romance. Too many obstacles and to much effort required to keep the romance nicely simmering. Or so it seems to me, at the moment. It doesn’t need to. Ryder is 22, right? I’d personally advise them to date more before settling. Reyes romance is perfect for two people that have known each other for a few months or so – no grand declarations of eternal love, just seeing where it goes, natural flow. Who knows, it might last after all (especially considering the shallowness of Andromeda dating pool ). What are the obstacles, though? Just distance? I can’t think of any apart from that.
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Post by haolyn on Aug 3, 2017 6:14:16 GMT
Oh I don't think Reyder is going to be an idyllic smooth-sailing long-lasting happy ending relationship. I think there'll be plenty more obstacles and heartbreak and drama. And to be honest..... that's the appeal. That's the sort of thing I like in fictional relationships and it's what drew me to this one in the first place.
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Post by BloodOfShiagur on Aug 3, 2017 11:10:51 GMT
Is that a subtle hint? Sometimes I feel I have too many effortposts in this thread, should probs tone it down. But yes, if Umi brought up talking animals, it would be alarming as in Umi having gone bonkers. Zia talking with the Charlatan (in Umi’s understanding) could mean that Reyes is in trouble, since it’s understood that Zia and Reyes aren’t on the best terms anymore. Umi wants to rattle Reyes with the idea that the Charlatan maybe wants to muscle in on his itty bitty smuggling enterprise. The line is a demonstration of how the Port denizens see the Charlatan as a shadowy boogeyman – this is the kind of vague, menacing manner his increasing influence is made manifest to and by the people, without him having to do much himself. The reputation builds itself (a bit like the Archons in Tyranny, if anybody’s played that game). It’s of course funny that Reyes is the target here, but that is also a deliberate, contrasting illustration of just how clever he has been in presenting as an unsuspicious smuggler. I also like to imagine how Reyes goes to “investigate the Collective link” by going to Tartarus, ordering drinks, and just parking his ass on the couch to wait for when Ryder calls him. (ok I’m not toning it down yet, apparently) Hey, no need to tone it down, where would be the fun in that But I get the feeling you take me too seriously at times. I'm, frankly speaking, just a jerk that loves nonsensical argument, and gets too carried away when having fun, nothing more to that or my goals and motives. Umi going bonkers would be a goddamn tragedy for all Heleus, true. There needs to be no real sense in teasing someone, saying "perhaps it was the Charlatan, booooo! is equal to saying "there's a werewolf under your bed, booo", that's how it works most of time. And we know Umi is bored, so coming up with this might have made her day (a shame she doesn't know the whole story at the time). And the built-up of rep must be lovely to see for Reyes. It is justifiable in any direction. I'm genererally pointing out the strange ways conversation works. And getting caught and exposed Lol, Reyes and the Collective link. He might even say he almost found the Charlatan... But didn't he have to find the Roekaar somewhere along the way too? If he hadn't been on to them the whole time, that is. True. There’s greater amount of people who sided with Sloane and dislike Reyes altogether, than those that like Reyes and want more of him, but still chose Sloane. Pro-Sloane folks should of course ideally get most content with her, lest the High Noon choice lose meaning. For majority, the choice is just with whom they want their Ryder to deal with. This would unfortunately limit the options for us Reyes fans. Out of curiosity, in what kind of situation would your Ryder be willing to try again with Reyes? If I remember right, you weren’t a fan of any “redemption” thing for Reyes, so he’d still be the scheming, lying murderer we know and love. Is the deal that Reyes can freely use similar tactics in the future (because he absolutely will), only Ryder and her honor mustn’t get caught in the middle? I hope your mod manager problem gets solved. You could also check the Nexus forum for the manager if anyone has the same problem. Good luck. :smiles: Yep, I realize this. It's bad :noo: It rarely happens that I have no preferences in choices like this, but here I simply really don't. I just enjoy both of them, they're interesting characters, as grey as it gets, and I can't say I have any illusions one of them has the moral upper hand or is better in any way. (Judging their leadership skills would be quite other matter, but there's simply no time to muse upon that in the cave scene, so it's a metagame factor at best, which gets overruled by RP at every turn). If there wasn't the sniper on the line as well, and one very irrational, uncomfortable analogy with a character I care very much about tied to the whole scene, I'd find it quite impossible to make any choice at all. Heh, making me talk about my characters? You're treading on a dangerous ground. As in you're in danger of being talked to death with the easiest question, and nothing's ever easy with Reyes and Ryder. It's under the spoiler tag, in case you'd care to risk it. It would largely depend on the situation. And, in a way, not at all, perhaps it would just take some time they'd spend together again. I've hinted several times that Ryder ends up not that furious with Reyes, even very privately acknowledging he's exactly what she needs or even wants. Because, callous as that may sound when it practically destroys anything Reyes built, the duel situation is not that much of a deal for Ryder or what she thinks of Reyes in the long run. She may be a bit of a hardhead, and also a bit of a spoiled brat who always excelled at anything and sort of had to, as well, whose skill convinced her that things can be tackled head on and if you need to resort to cheating it's not worth it and you're probably not worth it either. But that's not saying she's a typical by-the-book do gooder herself, or that she's dumb or naive, just.. sort of arrogant. A little more on the idealistic side somewhere deep inside too, perhaps. In fact she could handle a situation like that in other circumstances. But in that cave, it's just impossible. Since I mostly RP in first person, it would be easier to proceed dissecting her point of view in that situation, as to illustrate why shit happens why and where the big deal about Reyes cheating disappears:
- Ryder has spent all this damn time trying to make Sloane see reason, because despite her bad choices she can still respect her in a way. After all, she sees the world a bit similarly herself. (Really, though it's not the analogy I mentioned, it's worrying how my Ryder would be liable to exactly repeat most of Sloane's mistakes, though perhaps with a bit more subtlety and minus the drug pushing, she'd hold it that a crew of junkies is a bad idea) before the cave scene, she grins to have it made. She might have her convinced (I headcanon she worked very hard at it when they were both royally bored at Sloane's party) and even had it sped up by that inconsequential boogeyman going round Kadara, who will simply be killed and deals will be made. Profit!
- Ooh, turns out the inconsequential boogeyman is the man Ryder shared a whiskey with last night. The same man she's spent quite some time talking and flirting with in the past few weeks. Someone who managed the almost impossible and made her like him. Forget the pathfinder business and enjoy something for herself, damn the way it looks, damn what it brings to her mission or the consequences it might have, all of it despite the huge amount of shit-talking going on at the beginning. And also made her grin like an idiot for a whole second when he asked her out too. And seriously wonder if they might do it again after the storage kiss. She could've seen the revelation coming miles away. She didn't. She got distracted. In Ryder's book, that's a big epic fucking fail. Ryder facepalms at herself, feeling trapped. And like an idiot because nothing's ever easy and she allowed herself to think otherwise.
- Despite all her liking for Reyes, bringing a sniper to a duel is just a big nope for Ryder, so a no-brainer there and then. If they'd know each other longer, had more of a bond, the result would most likely be different. Like this, a sniper in a duel? (undoing all the work counts really marginally at this point. The main focus is on sniper in a duel) Fuck no. But despite that big a fuck no, she doesn't for a moment consider shooting Reyes. Game allowing, it might even be her biotics that make Sloane miss that very close shot.
-Well, all of that was in the heat of the moment, of course. Dust settling, the reality kicks in. Ryder has just been made a capital fool of. No, better, Ryder has just made a capital fool of herself without anyone's help. Having her hand forced to do one or other thing that will end unfavorably for her, with like a second to decide couldn't end any better. (She definitely gets under terrible pressure in that situation, so you might say she simply falls back on her principles as the last thing to save her.) Of course she'd make no specific apologies about choosing her honor that moment (she did tell Sloane she'd watch her back, after all, and that's not negligible). Buut she gets bananas berserk at the fact that with doing that she probably consigned one of the best things that happened to her in Heleus to death. Also, that she couldn't go the whole way and didn't shoot him herself as was her due, because her liking of him stopped her. Ryder has made it a point in her life not to let anyone mess with her like that- and she got severely outplayed, looks like a fool anywhere she looks and totally can't handle it, and the mind/heart rending schizophrenia is the most terrifying thing I've RP-ingly experienced since my NV Courier's existential crisis and that's saying something, because that thing borders on intense mental and emotional masochism.
- Well, time goes by. Ryder makes calls she disapproves of but can't have any other way (e.g Drack's scouts), thinks in terms she never needed (fuck, the angara sorta own the cluster now? does it make the ai the worst kind of galactic vagrants? don't tell Jaal, but fingers crossed it cripples them for like a decade to come or they mount new roekaar movement and it' all gonna go to hell), in light of all that lying to the satellite angara. Everyone chooses themselves and theirs first and Ryder realizes that's the only honor for someone who's not merely out for himself anywhere. She comes to see what Reyes did as what he had to do, fought the way Reyes fights. And that whole situation just seems to her as the smack behind the ear to open her eyes to what she sorely needed to see. In a way, Reyes is the bigger pragmatist of the two, the one who had it figured out and knew what had to be done, feelings aside. And she, fully realizing that intrigue, shadows and politicking will never be her domains, can finally respect that, even though she'd still personally favor to go head against the wall as she always does, and I'm not sure knowing any of these things beforehand would make her break a promise she once gave.
Where does all this rant lead? To pointing out the reasons why it wouldn't have to be just Reyes keeping away from Ryder's honor, but also Ryder keeping her honor out of Reyes' business. Also, to saying that unless Reyes breaks it, it's not really a question of "again" as in "second chance" but rather "still". I think I've mentioned somewhere that to me Ryder is still in romance with Reyes. She might act on it if it seemed there was a point in acting on it or she might keep it to herself if he were no longer interested or she saw there was no way a warrior and a rogue can reach any sort of compromise, ever. Funny, I said it would no longer be a game, but it seems with the two of them it would always still come down to "well, I'm game if you are".
And that's what you get when you ask me a question. I apologize. Thanks. I guess it will work somehow in the end as the Nexus page wasn't flooded with update requests last time I looked. But now that Sims 4 is coming out on console with other expansions following, I can play again! I once made a family in 3 that got married young and had a child, but hated each other, so I made them both extremely fertile and got them the hack that made them easier to cheat. The husband had like 25 children... It was hilarious and GOD do I miss that messy ass family. XD Impressive, my record is about 13 and that guy fucked all that moved and some that did not. Aww, those deranged sims days... Edit: So, I actually got it working. Yaaay. Wouldn't have attempted without the support Also, a bit of random stuff that made me smile when I started the browser
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Post by orchid on Aug 3, 2017 16:47:44 GMT
Talking about future stumbling blocks and heartbreak: apart from the High Noon reveal, is there really any drama in the romance? Even that gets smoothed out quickly if you choose to continue with Reyes (maybe even too smoothly). Ryder starts to get slightly cross when he finds Reyes in the store room, but that gets resolved quickly. To me the relationship didn’t come across like a dramafest. It seems casual but heartfelt; Ryder and Reyes are enjoying themselves thoroughly. Scott at least gets some of his best VA by complementing Reyes’ with playful and happy tone, making their flirting very carefree. But wait. Is this a voice acting thing? I could be wrong, but in the Sara/Reyes vids that I’ve seen, she sounds sort of b-, um, irascible? (Not a criticism of the voice actress, just noting the somewhat different approach to the role here, at least in my ears.) For example, she sounds slightly pissed off even in the “maybe another kiss” line and properly pissed off in the “this was about whisky?” line. I dunno. I probably can’t evaluate that properly. But that’s the only way I can see how people could see the relationship as a heartbreak melodrama. Unless people are really torn up about the duel stuff, I guess. Or are expecting Reyes to lie about big stuff after all. Maybe I’m just weird. I found the entire Reyes arc delightful and easy-going, and both Ryder and Reyes relaxed and undramatic. Also in my personal RP Kadara is where Ryder starts to feel like he’s truly up to the Pathfinder job, having found the thingy (…transponder? IDK) with which to find the Meridian. Like that group meeting on the Tempest where everybody is arguing, I imagine Ryder just musing happily about the progress they've made and how they're ~making allies~ on Kadara (and he might just have met someone wonderful ^^). I don’t know, now I’m just rambling. Here, let’s have a face-palming Reyes: Hey, no need to tone it down, where would be the fun in that But I get the feeling you take me too seriously at times. I'm, frankly speaking, just a jerk that loves nonsensical argument, and gets too carried away when having fun, nothing more to that or my goals and motives. Well, everybody took too seriously my throw-away quip about Jaal being so un-dashing that even Kallo is more dashing. (Serves me right for slighting everybody's favorite alien!) Lol, Reyes and the Collective link. He might even say he almost found the Charlatan... But didn't he have to find the Roekaar somewhere along the way too? If he hadn't been on to them the whole time, that is. Oh yeah, them. I think his spies already had the place on the radar. Reyes just needed SAM for finding hard evidence and the Pathfinder to carry out the killing, so that the Collective can objectively be proved innocent. Also good for publicizing the incident – everybody takes note when it was the human Pathfinder who did this (while showcasing how Sloane does nothing these days). (I love Reyes. ) If there wasn't the sniper on the line as well, and one very irrational, uncomfortable analogy with a character I care very much about tied to the whole scene, I'd find it quite impossible to make any choice at all. Now I’m curious. Unless it's some sensitive IRL thing, of course. Heh, making me talk about my characters? You're treading on a dangerous ground. As in you're in danger of being talked to death with the easiest question, and nothing's ever easy with Reyes and Ryder. It's under the spoiler tag, in case you'd care to risk it. It would largely depend on the situation. And, in a way, not at all, perhaps it would just take some time they'd spend together again. I've hinted several times that Ryder ends up not that furious with Reyes, even very privately acknowledging he's exactly what she needs or even wants. Because, callous as that may sound when it practically destroys anything Reyes built, the duel situation is not that much of a deal for Ryder or what she thinks of Reyes in the long run. She may be a bit of a hardhead, and also a bit of a spoiled brat who always excelled at anything and sort of had to, as well, whose skill convinced her that things can be tackled head on and if you need to resort to cheating it's not worth it and you're probably not worth it either. But that's not saying she's a typical by-the-book do gooder herself, or that she's dumb or naive, just.. sort of arrogant. A little more on the idealistic side somewhere deep inside too, perhaps. In fact she could handle a situation like that in other circumstances. But in that cave, it's just impossible. Since I mostly RP in first person, it would be easier to proceed dissecting her point of view in that situation, as to illustrate why shit happens why and where the big deal about Reyes cheating disappears:
- Ryder has spent all this damn time trying to make Sloane see reason, because despite her bad choices she can still respect her in a way. After all, she sees the world a bit similarly herself. (Really, though it's not the analogy I mentioned, it's worrying how my Ryder would be liable to exactly repeat most of Sloane's mistakes, though perhaps with a bit more subtlety and minus the drug pushing, she'd hold it that a crew of junkies is a bad idea) before the cave scene, she grins to have it made. She might have her convinced (I headcanon she worked very hard at it when they were both royally bored at Sloane's party) and even had it sped up by that inconsequential boogeyman going round Kadara, who will simply be killed and deals will be made. Profit!
- Ooh, turns out the inconsequential boogeyman is the man Ryder shared a whiskey with last night. The same man she's spent quite some time talking and flirting with in the past few weeks. Someone who managed the almost impossible and made her like him. Forget the pathfinder business and enjoy something for herself, damn the way it looks, damn what it brings to her mission or the consequences it might have, all of it despite the huge amount of shit-talking going on at the beginning. And also made her grin like an idiot for a whole second when he asked her out too. And seriously wonder if they might do it again after the storage kiss. She could've seen the revelation coming miles away. She didn't. She got distracted. In Ryder's book, that's a big epic fucking fail. Ryder facepalms at herself, feeling trapped. And like an idiot because nothing's ever easy and she allowed herself to think otherwise.
- Despite all her liking for Reyes, bringing a sniper to a duel is just a big nope for Ryder, so a no-brainer there and then. If they'd know each other longer, had more of a bond, the result would most likely be different. Like this, a sniper in a duel? (undoing all the work counts really marginally at this point. The main focus is on sniper in a duel) Fuck no. But despite that big a fuck no, she doesn't for a moment consider shooting Reyes. Game allowing, it might even be her biotics that make Sloane miss that very close shot.
-Well, all of that was in the heat of the moment, of course. Dust settling, the reality kicks in. Ryder has just been made a capital fool of. No, better, Ryder has just made a capital fool of herself without anyone's help. Having her hand forced to do one or other thing that will end unfavorably for her, with like a second to decide couldn't end any better. (She definitely gets under terrible pressure in that situation, so you might say she simply falls back on her principles as the last thing to save her.) Of course she'd make no specific apologies about choosing her honor that moment (she did tell Sloane she'd watch her back, after all, and that's not negligible). Buut she gets bananas berserk at the fact that with doing that she probably consigned one of the best things that happened to her in Heleus to death. Also, that she couldn't go the whole way and didn't shoot him herself as was her due, because her liking of him stopped her. Ryder has made it a point in her life not to let anyone mess with her like that- and she got severely outplayed, looks like a fool anywhere she looks and totally can't handle it, and the mind/heart rending schizophrenia is the most terrifying thing I've RP-ingly experienced since my NV Courier's existential crisis and that's saying something, because that thing borders on intense mental and emotional masochism.
- Well, time goes by. Ryder makes calls she disapproves of but can't have any other way (e.g Drack's scouts), thinks in terms she never needed (fuck, the angara sorta own the cluster now? does it make the ai the worst kind of galactic vagrants? don't tell Jaal, but fingers crossed it cripples them for like a decade to come or they mount new roekaar movement and it' all gonna go to hell), in light of all that lying to the satellite angara. Everyone chooses themselves and theirs first and Ryder realizes that's the only honor for someone who's not merely out for himself anywhere. She comes to see what Reyes did as what he had to do, fought the way Reyes fights. And that whole situation just seems to her as the smack behind the ear to open her eyes to what she sorely needed to see. In a way, Reyes is the bigger pragmatist of the two, the one who had it figured out and knew what had to be done, feelings aside. And she, fully realizing that intrigue, shadows and politicking will never be her domains, can finally respect that, even though she'd still personally favor to go head against the wall as she always does, and I'm not sure knowing any of these things beforehand would make her break a promise she once gave.
Where does all this rant lead? To pointing out the reasons why it wouldn't have to be just Reyes keeping away from Ryder's honor, but also Ryder keeping her honor out of Reyes' business. Also, to saying that unless Reyes breaks it, it's not really a question of "again" as in "second chance" but rather "still". I think I've mentioned somewhere that to me Ryder is still in romance with Reyes. She might act on it if it seemed there was a point in acting on it or she might keep it to herself if he were no longer interested or she saw there was no way a warrior and a rogue can reach any sort of compromise, ever. Funny, I said it would no longer be a game, but it seems with the two of them it would always still come down to "well, I'm game if you are".
And that's what you get when you ask me a question. I apologize. That’s great RP and a good narrative. I like the part about Ryder realizing she may have to dirty her own hands too. Thanks for typing all that - and don't apologize, since I'm anxiously waiting for a word on something important and need all distraction I can get. Anyway, I love making fuck-up PCs myself. I have fond memories of my New Vegas dude that made friends with Arcade and Boone, and later ended up getting convinced that Caesar is right. Your Ryder sounds like she might be too much for Reyes to handle, tho. For game design, I’m not sure about the romance continuing if Sloane gets chosen. IMO it would be somehow just too much if a love interest just meekly came back to the player character, after the PC has utterly fucked the LI’s life up. I prefer when there are squaddies and LIs that can say no to the PC (and vice versa, *cough* PB *cough*). Add to that that these two have known each other for months at best, and before that, in just six months, Reyes has already hit and quit at least one lover, possibly more. I’m not completely sure that BioWare would be deft enough to handle a possible continuation convincingly. Well, not that it really matters. At this point, a good head-canon is as good as it gets. Edit: So, I actually got it working. Yaaay. Wouldn't have attempted without the support Also, a bit of random stuff that made me smile when I started the browser Haha, oh god, that's just too good. I love stuff like that, like the Garrus rosé wine back in the day. Congrats on getting the mods to work again.
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Post by Zitrus on Aug 3, 2017 17:32:10 GMT
I also like to imagine how Reyes goes to “investigate the Collective link” by going to Tartarus, ordering drinks, and just parking his ass on the couch to wait for when Ryder calls him. Hehe, because that's what probably happened. I add looking through some surveillance footage or something to make sure it really wasn't one of his guys on an unauthorised job. Can never be too careful in this line of work. Lol, Reyes and the Collective link. He might even say he almost found the Charlatan... But didn't he have to find the Roekaar somewhere along the way too? If he hadn't been on to them the whole time, that is. Oh yeah, them. I think his spies already had the place on the radar. Reyes just needed SAM for finding hard evidence and the Pathfinder to carry out the killing, so that the Collective can objectively be proved innocent. Also good for publicizing the incident – everybody takes note when it was the human Pathfinder who did this (while showcasing how Sloane does nothing these days). (I love Reyes. ) Lazy Sloane . I really like going on this mission with him. And that he sneaked in before, planted the explosives, then hid somewhere to make his entrance later. You bet! Talking about future stumbling blocks and heartbreak: apart from the High Noon reveal, is there really any drama in the romance? Even that gets smoothed out quickly if you choose to continue with Reyes (maybe even too smoothly). Ryder starts to get slightly cross when he finds Reyes in the store room, but that gets resolved quickly. To me the relationship didn’t come across like a dramafest. It seems casual but heartfelt; Ryder and Reyes are enjoying themselves thoroughly. Scott at least gets some of his best VA by complementing Reyes’ with playful and happy tone, making their flirting very carefree. But wait. Is this a voice acting thing? I could be wrong, but in the Sara/Reyes vids that I’ve seen, she sounds sort of b-, um, irascible? (Not a criticism of the voice actress, just noting the somewhat different approach to the role here, at least in my ears.) For example, she sounds slightly pissed off even in the “maybe another kiss” line and properly pissed off in the “this was about whisky?” line. I dunno. I probably can’t evaluate that properly. But that’s the only way I can see how people could see the relationship as a heartbreak melodrama. Unless people are really torn up about the duel stuff, I guess. Or are expecting Reyes to lie about big stuff after all. Maybe I’m just weird. I found the entire Reyes arc delightful and easy-going, and both Ryder and Reyes relaxed and undramatic. Also in my personal RP Kadara is where Ryder starts to feel like he’s truly up to the Pathfinder job, having found the thingy (…transponder? IDK) with which to find the Meridian. Like that group meeting on the Tempest where everybody is arguing, I imagine Ryder just musing happily about the progress they've made and how they're ~making allies~ on Kadara (and he might just have met someone wonderful ^^). Maybe that they have to keep it a secret in front of most people and the distance. Perhaps also his line of work but that is known beforehand. However, that doesn't take away the fun and I think it can work out. I thought she was supposed to sound a bit pissed off because of the whiskey, I would be^^ so it works fine for me. Maybe another kiss is like a teasing suggestion. Although I find her English voice often sounds like she has a rough throat.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 3, 2017 17:56:12 GMT
Oh yeah, them. I think his spies already had the place on the radar. Reyes just needed SAM for finding hard evidence and the Pathfinder to carry out the killing, so that the Collective can objectively be proved innocent. Also good for publicizing the incident – everybody takes note when it was the human Pathfinder who did this (while showcasing how Sloane does nothing these days). (I love Reyes. ) Lazy Sloane . I really like going on this mission with him. And that he sneaked in before, planted the explosives, then hid somewhere to make his entrance later. I think he knew where they were since he was colluding with them. After all later during High Noon the Roekaar Incident is brought up as part of his "death by a thousand cuts" plan to defeat Sloane. And while they would never work with a human, he could have used his Sheva alias making them think he was angara and sent angaran Collective members as intermediaries.
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Post by Zitrus on Aug 3, 2017 18:04:16 GMT
We've had this topic before, I remember . This part of "death by a thousand cuts" is to make her look bad in the public eye and perhaps even in some of the Outcasts', imo (plus keeping the city safe). Sloane was just too lazy, incompetent and uncaring (less than a third of the victims were Outcasts) to look for them.
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Post by haolyn on Aug 3, 2017 18:20:09 GMT
Well I definitely think Reyes is hiding other stuff too ("There's a lot you don't know about me"). I also don't think Tann and co will look too kindly to everyone finding out their human Pathfinder is dating an exile crime lord, so going public is sure to cause trouble. And who knows how many torture chambers and such the Collective has set up that we don't know about. It's just like the Charlatan situation, Reyes is not lying per se, just omitting to mention stuff. So I think there's a lot of potential for future drama.
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Post by Zitrus on Aug 3, 2017 18:47:18 GMT
"There's a lot you don't know about me" could also allude to unexpected but not bad stuff, like the dancing. So maybe he's knitting, too (just a silly example). They haven't known each other for long, it's not surprising. He wants to tell Ryder the big stuff from now on. Just depends on what big means for him. If you're just friends he of course makes no such promises.
Addison already knows there's something between them. Tann's knowledge is unknown but he hates exiles, yes, should be fun.
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Post by orchid on Aug 3, 2017 18:59:44 GMT
Maybe that they have to keep it a secret in front of most people and the distance. Perhaps also his line of work but that is known beforehand. However, that doesn't take away the fun and I think it can work out. I thought she was supposed to sound a bit pissed off because of the whiskey, I would be^^ so it works fine for me. Maybe another kiss is like a teasing suggestion. Although I find her English voice often sounds like she has a rough throat. I don't know, I guess I just prefer Scott being more amused and only slightly exasperated by it. Lucky that we all got the VA that we like best. What language do you play with? Also I love that screenshot. Reyes has kissy lips. :kiss: I think he knew where they were since he was colluding with them. After all later during High Noon the Roekaar Incident is brought up as part of his "death by a thousand cuts" plan to defeat Sloane. And while they would never work with a human, he could have used his Sheva alias making them think he was angara and sent angaran Collective members as intermediaries. If you allude that Reyes somehow helped the Roekaar in their terror campaign, you really ought to have something tangible to back it up. His main trouble was that the Collective was being implicated – he needed to clear his gang from that suspicion, and it would be self-sabotage to help the Roekaar to make shit up about his own outfit. Undermining Sloane by showing how useless she is, getting rid of insane xenophobe murderers and developing working relationship with Ryder was an added bonus. Well I definitely think Reyes is hiding other stuff too ("There's a lot you don't know about me"). I also don't think Tann and co will look too kindly to everyone finding out their human Pathfinder is dating an exile crime lord, so going public is sure to cause trouble. And who knows how many torture chambers and such the Collective has set up that we don't know about. It's just like the Charlatan situation, Reyes is not lying per se, just omitting to mention stuff. So I think there's a lot of potential for future drama. Thanks for clarifying. I think I misread some of the wording earlier. I agree there's potential for conflict. I especially would like to bring the torture chamber up with Reyes. I still can’t see grand melodrama in the making, however. Everybody has their own Ryders, but if we assume the continuation would be in the style of the extant material, those things should be resolved without dramatics. I’d prefer a more businesslike approach when those topics are broached. About secrets. Reyes sure has them, as he explicitly confides in that line you quoted. Would he say that if his intention was to keep Ryder in the dark still? To me it came across as a new leaf, where the "romantic side" was a first in a series where Reyes confides more of his personal life and closely guarded secrets to Ryder, with whom he now has some amount of trust that has potential to grow. I love it and find it sweet. Once Reyes continues that he doesn’t want more secrets between them, a practical Ryder can say that they both have those and that’s okay. I think I trust Reyes not to keep Ryder in the dark about anything huge. He kept the Charlatan thing secret for reasons we know. Now that Ryder accepts Reyes as he is, he doesn't really have a need for such secrecy. Of course, if it turns out he is the Benefactor or something dumb like that, everything goes out. But I sincerely hope for better writing than that. Addison already knows that Reyes is the Charlatan and I can’t imagine Tann or Kandros giving a damn about who Ryder sleeps with, as long there’s no scandal. Reyes already wants to stay in the shadow, and for my Ryder, that’s just perfect. I personally like that Ryder has a private life. Maybe that would be a strain for some, I can accept that. edit: partially ninja'd by zitrus
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Post by starlord on Aug 3, 2017 19:02:51 GMT
"There's a lot you don't know about me" could also allude to unexpected but not bad stuff, like the dancing. So maybe he's knitting, too (just a silly example). They haven't known each other for long, it's not surprising. He wants to tell Ryder the big stuff from now on. Just depends on what big means for him. If you're just friends he of course makes no such promises. Addison already knows there's something between them. Tann's knowledge is unknown but he hates exiles, yes, should be fun. I kind of headcanon that Addison knew prior to it being revealed. I think in order to survive that long, The Charlatan had to be charismatic, intelligent, INTF to a T. I think Addison knew more about Kadara than she lets on (I mean tbh we have no idea about Kadara's origins since that part seemed kind of glossed over) and like the minute she heard about a rising power in Kadara she was like "Reyes Vidal, you had so much potential (In that really kinda tropey marvel way), while pouring herself a stiff drink. LMAO Reyes: there's a lot you don't know about me. Ryder: enlighten me then Reyes: *opens door to reveal hundreds of Minion toys and collectibles. ^^^^ the only time, I'd promptly dump Reyes's ass XD
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Post by haolyn on Aug 3, 2017 19:06:49 GMT
orchid well yes, I do think any conflict should be resolved eventually, but I still would like to see the "conflict" part play out and not just have everything resolve off screen. But I suppose I'm in the minority here since I highly enjoy the melodrama
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Post by orchid on Aug 3, 2017 19:19:13 GMT
orchid well yes, I do think any conflict should be resolved eventually, but I still would like to see the "conflict" part play out and not just have everything resolve off screen. But I suppose I'm in the minority here since I highly enjoy the melodrama Aw come on. I said I want the conflicts solved in more businesslike manner rather than melodrama, not that they'd be resolved off screen. I'd like the romance keep the kind of pace it had before, rather than changing it into something overwrought as in some other BioWare writing. I like how down to earth MEA was in a lot of places, and I like how calm Ryder is about the Charlatan reveal. Keeping it rational, good-humored and clean. I admit this also ties into my wish to see an option where Ryder becomes more unscrupulous and starts scheming together with Reyes in some shady stuff. starlord LOL I'm with you on that one. Some things are too bad to endure. I'm not convinced Reyes is high-up enough for Addison to know about him, but that's an interesting idea. I wish we could see the screening vids for him.
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Post by starlord on Aug 3, 2017 22:05:15 GMT
orchid well yes, I do think any conflict should be resolved eventually, but I still would like to see the "conflict" part play out and not just have everything resolve off screen. But I suppose I'm in the minority here since I highly enjoy the melodrama Aw come on. I said I want the conflicts solved in more businesslike manner rather than melodrama, not that they'd be resolved off screen. I'd like the romance keep the kind of pace it had before, rather than changing it into something overwrought as in some other BioWare writing. I like how down to earth MEA was in a lot of places, and I like how calm Ryder is about the Charlatan reveal. Keeping it rational, good-humored and clean. I admit this also ties into my wish to see an option where Ryder becomes more unscrupulous and starts scheming together with Reyes in some shady stuff. starlord LOL I'm with you on that one. Some things are too bad to endure. I'm not convinced Reyes is high-up enough for Addison to know about him, but that's an interesting idea. I wish we could see the screening vids for him. HAHA I'd love Reyes to be an undercover weirdo, but I don't want it to go that far. It's kind of sad that there is a growing chance that we will not really get to see more of Reyes (if Hudson decides to cut Bioware's losses and move on from DLC ideas and, potentially, Andromeda as a whole. (Which would be a crazy bad idea IMO, but I digress.) I wish we could too! I believe it was Minius (I'm sorry I don't know how to spell his name) that got the ball rolling on my Reyes headcanon (what I revealed and played around with in the fic as well) and although I like being creative with Reyes's backstory, I would love to see what Courtney Woods has as his official canon.
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Post by Zitrus on Aug 3, 2017 22:38:03 GMT
What language do you play with? German most of the time. I've always played ME in German and DA in English because there I miss the accents for the different races and regions. I checked German Scott and he sounds a bit more accusatory than his English counterpart but not as much as Sara. Book spoilers ahead. While Reyes is not mentioned at all, it was Addison's idea to send out 8 scout ships to look for viable planets because of food shortage and the scourge. He could have been in one of the 7 which returned. Spender coordinated the crews on her behalf. It's also unclear when he woke up. Either when the scourge hit (Sloane freed Kandros and others and those in turn and Kesh as well freed more from their stasis pods) or later when they needed technicians and so on, they made a list. Addison said she needs people from the colonial administration to check the remaining ships.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 3, 2017 22:42:59 GMT
I would love to see what Courtney Woods has as his official canon. I feel the same way with her and Lexi.
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Post by BloodOfShiagur on Aug 4, 2017 10:05:25 GMT
Whoa, such a party and I missed all that Well, everybody took too seriously my throw-away quip about Jaal being so un-dashing that even Kallo is more dashing. (Serves me right for slighting everybody's favorite alien!) Hey, I didn't, I was just trying to make you elaborate.. and then sorta killed it, oops Makes you think EDI's got it all figured out. And that.. was a joke. But really, now I can't help but wonder if you find Jaal that undashing... (he grew on me during my pts, but personally I can't see the reason for all the hype either). Now I’m curious. Unless it's some sensitive IRL thing, of course. Nope, it's really not. Putting it together with the NV comment in the spoiler tag, will try to get less ranty this time Fuck up PCs for da win, as they say, seriously if I had to play as a well-boobed Mary Sue runnning around in her underwear I'd fall into a coma in five minutes And nobody can really blame your courier, Caesar is just that fucking fascinating. If my own Courier hadn't been hanging around with Boone like all the time before getting that invitation and getting sot of influenced in that regard, who knows what might have happened... Which bridges nicely to the answer to your question which is- the Courier. Or, from all the PCs and OCs and whatever else that I ever created, the one I love most. I don't know why that happened, but it somehow did. And the comparison in this case really seems like something that spammed my brain for no reason and didn't go away. That's saying she's nothing Sloane, cares nothing for power and the first time someone suggests she could take over, she laughs for solid ten minutes. Actually her leadership style in totally Charlatan-like in the end when her per deathclaw somehow happens to chew on Mr. House's life support when unattended (choosing a faction with that character? believe me, an impossible fools errand)... and she decides that telling it is a completely idiotic idea. She's more of a surprisingly thoughtful, devilishly intelligent jerk, a bit quijotic, a bit cheshire cat-like... and that's the problem. If Boone weren't around to shoot Reyes' head off, scoff and mutter something about her painting a target on her back, she'd totally go for that offer, just because of her pride and recklessness and the fact all the world is just a fucking game that ends with more or less stupid death to her anyway... and despite being pretty cunning herself, and having the history of screwing (non-innocent) people over for the laughs, she'd never suspect he never really means it, especially if he'd put it like he did. Having time to decide, she might eventually reconsider and prepare. In an instant like that, never. So, having created in a very 1st person-style a mind that could die from this as well makes me shudder from that kind of murder (unless there is some overwhelming reason, no, let us not go there again), especially since I kind of get where that surprised/terrified look comes from.. and it makes me excessively -and perhaps undeservedly, I know- sorry for Sloane. It's not the only reason, not is it the main one, but it's a damn glaring one for sure. And that's even when I know all of this is generally nonsensical, because if the Courier really were in Sloane's place, it would also mean that her closest (probably Boone) is near death. She'd have no mind for games then, only for giving someone what they've got coming, which would probably result in her emptying a clip in Reyes' face without a further word the moment he asserts his identity... Haha, oh god, that's just too good. I love stuff like that, like the Garrus rosé wine back in the day. Congrats on getting the mods to work again. Garrus wine? Enlighten me, I wasn't around for that Oh yeah, them. I think his spies already had the place on the radar. Reyes just needed SAM for finding hard evidence and the Pathfinder to carry out the killing, so that the Collective can objectively be proved innocent. Also good for publicizing the incident – everybody takes note when it was the human Pathfinder who did this (while showcasing how Sloane does nothing these days). (I love Reyes. ) Lazy Sloane . I really like going on this mission with him. And that he sneaked in before, planted the explosives, then hid somewhere to make his entrance later. Lol, I always imagine him hiding around the base when Ryder gets in trouble, waiting for the moment to strike which would make him look most impressive But Reyes/ Collective staring or supporting a Roekaar murder spree? I think that would be way too much of a risk to make a point about Sloane being lazy... orchid well yes, I do think any conflict should be resolved eventually, but I still would like to see the "conflict" part play out and not just have everything resolve off screen. But I suppose I'm in the minority here since I highly enjoy the melodrama Aw come on. I said I want the conflicts solved in more businesslike manner rather than melodrama, not that they'd be resolved off screen. I'd like the romance keep the kind of pace it had before, rather than changing it into something overwrought as in some other BioWare writing. I like how down to earth MEA was in a lot of places, and I like how calm Ryder is about the Charlatan reveal. Keeping it rational, good-humored and clean. I admit this also ties into my wish to see an option where Ryder becomes more unscrupulous and starts scheming together with Reyes in some shady stuff. As we have agreed somewhere along the way, it's great that one relationship can be taken in many directions depending on the particular headcanon... and it seems that the possibilities with Reyes are indeed endless. That said, I still hope there would be some way for things to get smoothed out between him and Ryder, though I'd dislike it to be easy.. or treated like nothing really happened, at least from Reyes' side, too much bitching from Ryder would be annoying. I feel the same way with her and Lexi. Wait, she wrote Lexi too? Funny, one of the most interesting characters in whole ME and one I couldn't be rid of too soon.... starlord What exactly is INTF to a T??
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Post by orchid on Aug 4, 2017 14:56:01 GMT
Whoa, such a party and I missed all that The chill thread lives. (Watch me kill the thread with that comment.) But really, now I can't help but wonder if you find Jaal that undashing... (he grew on me during my pts, but personally I can't see the reason for all the hype either). I like the character, which surprised me since I think the writing and design for the Angara on the whole is sub-par. But I don’t think Jaal is even intended to be dashing. If he were, I can’t see it. I can’t lie tho, I’ve become slightly bitter over the first-comers Reyes and Gil being thrown into a ditch in favor of perfecting every little detail in ~Jaal’s precious romance~. Fuck up PCs for da win, as they say, seriously if I had to play as a well-boobed Mary Sue runnning around in her underwear I'd fall into a coma in five minutes And nobody can really blame your courier, Caesar is just that fucking fascinating. If my own Courier hadn't been hanging around with Boone like all the time before getting that invitation and getting sot of influenced in that regard, who knows what might have happened... Which bridges nicely to the answer to your question which is- the Courier. Or, from all the PCs and OCs and whatever else that I ever created, the one I love most. I don't know why that happened, but it somehow did. And the comparison in this case really seems like something that spammed my brain for no reason and didn't go away. That's saying she's nothing Sloane, cares nothing for power and the first time someone suggests she could take over, she laughs for solid ten minutes. Actually her leadership style in totally Charlatan-like in the end when her per deathclaw somehow happens to chew on Mr. House's life support when unattended (choosing a faction with that character? believe me, an impossible fools errand)... and she decides that telling it is a completely idiotic idea. She's more of a surprisingly thoughtful, devilishly intelligent jerk, a bit quijotic, a bit cheshire cat-like... and that's the problem. If Boone weren't around to shoot Reyes' head off, scoff and mutter something about her painting a target on her back, she'd totally go for that offer, just because of her pride and recklessness and the fact all the world is just a fucking game that ends with more or less stupid death to her anyway... and despite being pretty cunning herself, and having the history of screwing (non-innocent) people over for the laughs, she'd never suspect he never really means it, especially if he'd put it like he did. Having time to decide, she might eventually reconsider and prepare. In an instant like that, never. So, having created in a very 1st person-style a mind that could die from this as well makes me shudder from that kind of murder (unless there is some overwhelming reason, no, let us not go there again), especially since I kind of get where that surprised/terrified look comes from.. and it makes me excessively -and perhaps undeservedly, I know- sorry for Sloane. It's not the only reason, not is it the main one, but it's a damn glaring one for sure. And that's even when I know all of this is generally nonsensical, because if the Courier really were in Sloane's place, it would also mean that her closest (probably Boone) is near death. She'd have no mind for games then, only for giving someone what they've got coming, which would probably result in her emptying a clip in Reyes' face without a further word the moment he asserts his identity... NV was perfect for characters like these. I had so many. The Legion dude was my third playthrough, with all of the DLCs and a couple of mods. Lucky shades ( ), doing the Arizona Killer… Amazing times. Absolute naïve idiot of a character too! Anyway, that’s an interesting comparison - thanks for telling. (I sometimes have sort of archetypes that travel between games, but those tend to be in fantasy games.) But Boone might be too law-abiding to really get into what looks like Fiend-enabling drug dealing, were the Courier actually in Sloane's position. Also: heads on spikes, brutal beatings – crucifixions, brutal beatings. Sloane’s Lord of the Flies style approach to governance is maybe a little too close to Caesar, and without post-apocalypse and Hegelian dialectics excuse to boot! But I see what you mean from your Ryder's (and Courier's) point of view. Now I feel sorry for her. And that's even when I know all of this is generally nonsensical, because if the Courier really were in Sloane's place, it would also mean that her closest (probably Boone) is near death. She'd have no mind for games then, only for giving someone what they've got coming, which would probably result in her emptying a clip in Reyes' face without a further word the moment he asserts his identity... That’s an astute observation. Sloane knows that it’s the man in front of him that had Kaetus beaten into pulp. Acting tough is something she’s been doing for a long time, so she manages keeps it together even as she is getting angrier and angrier. Even so, it must be hard to stay as calm as she is, especially considering how smug Reyes is. In that light, accepting Reyes’ offer is surprisingly self-possessed of her – but not enough as to know that it’s an obvious trap. She could just have rushed him, without pausing to think how Ryder would react. It could even be that Reyes’ primary expectation was for Sloane to just blindly attack in rage, and the duel reserved only for if that didn't happen. The sniper sure as hell must have been instructed for such a possibility. And Ryder would’ve just been like ‘welp, that’s that I guess’, regardless of personal opinions. Garrus wine? Enlighten me, I wasn't around for that Oh there’s a celebrated French rosé that’s called Garrus. The insanely adoring reviews for the wine were funny like – lemme search for an example – “The Garrus we all admired, fondled, and eventually had the divine pleasure of tasting was from the 2012 vintage. It was, like the 2011 Garrus I first tasted a couple of years ago, bedazzling.” It was funny. Somebody needs to make a whisky called Reyes... (And a good one, too, so that reviews are praising and not "I drank this and woke up a week later naked and bruised in a car's boot at a deserted quarry." )
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 4, 2017 15:05:59 GMT
I feel the same way with her and Lexi. Wait, she wrote Lexi too? Funny, one of the most interesting characters in whole ME and one I couldn't be rid of too soon.... I feel the same way, just reverse it and have Lexi be the interesting character and Reyes be the one I couldn't be rid of too soon. Makes sense since she talked about how those two are complete opposites of each other. Anyway, yes Courtney Woods wrote Lexi, Reyes, and Kadara.
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Post by starlord on Aug 4, 2017 21:00:57 GMT
BloodOfShiagur I butchered the name- It's INTJ (oops) it's Myers Briggs's personality quiz. INTJ's are strategic planners. The website I found that went more in depth legitimately has this to say: "White lies and small talk are hard enough as it is for a type that craves truth and depth, but INTJs may go so far as to see many social conventions as downright stupid. Ironically, it is often best for them to remain where they are comfortable – out of the spotlight – where the natural confidence prevalent in INTJs as they work with the familiar can serve as its own beacon, attracting people, romantically or otherwise, of similar temperament and interests." Like holy fuck, hellooo, Reyes! XD Edit: Here's the link! www.16personalities.com/intj-personalityMine is INFP-T
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Post by Zitrus on Aug 4, 2017 23:55:10 GMT
"Architect Managers Efficiency and results are king to Architects, and behaviors that undermine these conditions are quashed mercilessly. If subordinates try to compensate for their weakness in these areas by trying to build a social relationship with their Architect managers, on their heads be it – office gossip and schmoozing are not the way into Architects’ hearts – only bold competence will do." Sounds like what Crux said. He doesn't care who you are but what you can do. Whoa, such a party and I missed all that The chill thread lives. (Watch me kill the thread with that comment.) Nooo, the spoiler must not come true. Maybe they could have made him look not so fine when you visit him right after. He doesn't even limp. Perhaps this exoskeleton is so tough that they don't have visible injuries from beatings. Lol, never heard of that. Yes sadly, I found nothing for whiskey, only some Mexican liqueur. Five pages in google actually suggested this thread .
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Post by starlord on Aug 5, 2017 3:40:31 GMT
"Architect Managers Efficiency and results are king to Architects, and behaviors that undermine these conditions are quashed mercilessly. If subordinates try to compensate for their weakness in these areas by trying to build a social relationship with their Architect managers, on their heads be it – office gossip and schmoozing are not the way into Architects’ hearts – only bold competence will do." Sounds like what Crux said. He doesn't care who you are but what you can do. The chill thread lives. (Watch me kill the thread with that comment.) Nooo, the spoiler must not come true. Maybe they could have made him look not so fine when you visit him right after. He doesn't even limp. Perhaps this exoskeleton is so tough that they don't have visible injuries from beatings. Lol, never heard of that. Yes sadly, I found nothing for whiskey, only some Mexican liqueur. Five pages in google actually suggested this thread . Looks like we have found Reyes's personality type! Yay! LOL
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