Reyes Vidal - No longer A Mystery (Official Thread)

Disclaimer: I fucking hate this netbook. I hate it so much I’d shoot it in the back in a duel . give me a minute to get my post in working order.

Hail from the seaside, chillest of  threads, and lets try to keep alive for as long as it takes!

Well, he’s sort of in that role, lots of people see him like that... But I don’t think it was a tradeoff in any way, just some characters getting more spotlight than others. A bad decision all in all, but what can we do.... but yep, the amount of preference Jaal gets puts Liara to shame... and that’s saying something



]I think the upcoming choice is the only thing holding her together, tbh. She just doesn’t seem the type at all. But on the other hand, there might have been a kind of choice just as well if she rushed him, the even worse and messy kind... hell, it just happened to strike me how different all that would be...

Also, it makes me wonder whether Reyes had the sniper thing really planned all along or just improvised when Ryder showed up.. or if Sloane didn’t rush him.


Awww, that's just brilliant, thanks for enlightening me. Now it's sure what it was Garrus brought into Shepard's cabin that night
Hmm, is there nothing with that name yet? It's not so uncommon... But perhaps something matching your description would be the best fit anyway

I suspected as much.. but then it seemed too much to hope for that people here would know even that.... _{Btw, INFP? Ha, I was right about you}
But nope, I'm almost hundred percent sure he's not INTJ... being pretty much INTJ myself, I find him way much of a drama queen for that, all talk, show-off and outward gesturing... not to mention the endless lying capabilities...
Which are architect managers, Zitrus ? I only know the types by letters and not all those differing titles. ENTJ? I hesitated for a long time in Reyes' case and then went for ENTP...seems closest for the kind of jerk he is...

Where the hell is Kaetus to be found post High-noon? I swear I never found him anywhere and I tried looking several times...
As for time, well, it’s the classical BW time. The headcanon to the rescue time

Good job on those pics. Reyes looks like the Illusive man in the lower left corner, lol.

Slightly off-topic stuff in spoilers:

I meant your Ryder, not Sloane. I can't feel sorry for Sloane, not even for Kaetus's sake, which is the most humanizing angle to her.

The sniper must have had very precise instructions and positioning, too many things could go wrong otherwise. If the sniper just improvised shooting Sloane, the choice wouldn't even been Reyes'. Also it would make Reyes an unprepared idiot. Reyes coming up with the duel on the spot wouldn't gel either with the sniper already being in place and knowing what to do, though I guess I'm just rehashing what I said the last time this theory came up.  No, the duel was absolutely planned with care. Being prepared for other possibilities, such as Sloane just attacking or her not even coming at all, is just something Reyes must also have done.

I'm pretty sure there are various wines with the word "reyes" in the title, so I guess that's as close as it gets. Lol at imagining some brewer naming their product Reyes and then checking for results on google. Although I guess Reyes is so common that our Reyes might not come up at all.

You're saying he's not in Sloane's throne room if you side with her? Weird, you'd think Ryder would get a chance to chat up the friendliest Outcast. I guess then the intention is that he's recovering somewhere. Maybe Sloane has him in her private chamber, being pampered to.

Thanks.

edit: why do I always get new page snipes for my shittiest posts? :srs:

Oh, Reyes' influence is at work here.

Have fun in the sun.


Not really. Yesterday I found a video in which a Whiskey Business Cocktail with Ancho Reyes Chile Liqueur is made. For the times you want some Reyes in your whiskey.


They call the INTJ architect there and explain how people are in the job, in friendships and so on. My quote is from the part when they are managers at the workplace. There's always something that fits and something that doesn't.


Yes, guess he's still recovering and the wounds are just not so visible. In the other ending he's still on bedrest but doesn't like it. I wish they would give some mention of the passed time now and then.

I’d be interested in seeing Kaetus vs. Reyes showdown.

I’ll rather first have Reyes, then the whiskey, separately. :heh:

So, Ancho Reyes? Let’s see if this works. “A smoky, heated celebración of the radical, the romantico, the independiente inside us all”. Hmh, it’s not really the same... There’s this faaaintly suitable picture tho:

Reyes not expecting Ryder isn’t remotely the same thing, though? Sloane’s been nothing but disdainful and threatening to Ryder, even during the Kett removal mission, so I can’t blame Reyes for not expecting Sloane to put her trust in them. Furthermore, it takes SAM correctly analyzing a glint seen by pure chance for the possible Ryder-warning-Sloane event chain to occur the way it did in the game. I mean, call Reyes an idiot for that if you want, but I see those things in altogether different ballpark.

It would make Reyes an unprepared idiot if he:
(a) invited Sloane over without any plan at all
( challenged Sloane to the duel out of a moment’s spur (possibly only because Ryder is there, because of ???)
(c) instead of a carefully vetted sniper with clear instructions, just brought some dude to act on his own whims, who is undisciplined enough to shoot at Sloane without advance planning, taking a risk of killing his boss since he might unwittingly move in the bullet’s path

The entire point of the scene is that it’s been carefully planned for a long time; Reyes obviously only has select few elite operatives with him, exactly so that he’d have complete control of what transpires. Ryder’s presence is the only thing unaccounted for, and subsequently the only thing that can ruin Reyes’ plan. Everything in the dialogue and the narrative supports the duel being prearranged (“death by thousand cuts”, the entire dichotomy between the elusive Charlatan and his pragmatic, secretive Collective and hotheaded Sloane and her brash, bloodfeudy Outcasts).

I'm for a badass version of Keema.   That way we get an alien on the team.


ETA: Anyone here play multi-player? She could be kitted out like the angara avenger (with stealth grid, sticky grenade, and avenger strike), and it would be perfect.

Maybe Mr Sniper Guy. He has no personality yet but that can be remedied and he already knows the secret. Reyes trusts him a lot apparently.


I have no clue but I like to look up stuff^^.
Triple sec, originally Curaçao triple sec, is a variety of Curaçao liqueur, an orange-flavoured liqueur made from the dried peels of bitter and/or sweet oranges.
Triple sec may be consumed neat as a digestif or on the rocks, but it is more often used as an ingredient in a variety of cocktails, such as sangria, margarita, Kamikaze, White Lady, Long Island Iced Tea, Sidecar, Skittle Bomb, Corpse Reviver #2 and Cosmopolitan.


Drinking with the devil. The colour is pretty good: Deep bronze hue.

Only two games and both were lost. Haven't tried it again since.

Huh, the tension alone would be murderous

No argument there. I’m not really calling anybody an idiot or even hinting at the duel situation in particular, just making Ryder a (very inconsequential) example of stuff that you simply don’t expect even when your planning has no fault to be found otherwise. I’d be interested in how something possibly more intrusive would be handled (in short, I’m uselessly theorizing once more as masterplans like this always make me suspicious, there is always something you might have forgotten.. or something you couldn’t have expected unless you happen to be in possession of a crystal ball)

I may as be getting too lazy to quote it all, so good find with the pic... The devil’s a slightly less attractive than Reyes, though (unless he’s hidden behind the mask and all of it suggests something)

Yay for mr. Sniper guy (no, I’m absolutely not way too partial on snipers), but Crux or Keema seem more likely, sadly. Even though when tehprincessj mentioned the cigar, I was reminded of Integra Hellsing who is more of the ordering people around type, and not sure if it’s the cigar or the attitude but Keema doesn’t seem like much of a fighter herself.(Unless she is being very deceitful, that is). So I’d go with Crux, forfeiting the alien possibilities, she seemed capable plus I’d like her. Or some new, still unknown Collective member who might be whatever race-wise, plus no VA would have to return for it and that might be convenient

Lol, thanks for looking it up. They keep the secret ingredient, well, a secret, apparently

Yes. Notice that I said I go for bronze and silver missions? I've only played on gold once, whereas in ME3 I regularly played on platinum, and could solo gold (with the turian ghost on firebase white against the geth). I'm not sure if it's the level designs incorporating the jump jets messing with spawn points or if it's the character kits (I miss being quarians and drell, damnit), but it just hasn't grabbed me the way it did in ME3.

If I didn't already know you're on PC, I'd totally come play with you, though. Shame be damned.

I played ME3 MP for a while as well, mostly silver, some gold.
I had a bronze game now and we won, yay. It was actually easy. I didn't die at least, killed stuff and wasn't kicked out when we were back in the lobby. In my former matches I tried the timed missions that are only there for a couple days, guess that was a bit too much for the beginning.

Oh of course and she shouts viva la revolución in Angaran as battlecry. I can see it now.


Oops, sure, he goes to the barber before. This cannot stand.

If it is Crux maybe she climbed the ranks. Or Reyes pretends to be a secret Charlatan agent around her.


What, lol I missed this. Found it now. Ykaari is the angara recruit, no wonder she doesn't know about peanuts.

Yeah, snacks for the bar, this could be it, hehe. Or it's one of his dark secrets, he is addicted to peanuts.
More seriously, maybe like Vetra's chocolate and cornflakes, goods for negotiations.

I didn't suggest Keema since I still think that if they go with the threat being a domestic one, Keema is the best choice since she is a common point regardless of whom you side with.

As for Kaetus vs Reyes, I agree that Kaetus would abandon any semblance of honor in his pursuit of Reyes if Sloane was killed and instead use every trick in the book, clean and dirty, to avenge her.

Regarding Crux and Reyes being the Charlatan, I can see them doing one of three things: 
1. He pretends to just be an agent of the Charlatan like her. That could lead to some interesting and funny banter.
2. She knows he is the Charlatan, either before the main game or after High Noon. For example maybe she piloted the ship that helps him escape if you side with Sloane or was at the base when that ship arrives. 
3. He is revealed as the Charlatan during some point of the story. 

IMO we’ve seen enough of the secret Charlatan stuff, with Umi, with Ryder him/herself. After High Noon, there’s nothing new about seeing Reyes duping another hapless person and his identity being revealed to them. It could happen if the second temp-squaddie wasn’t picked by Reyes, but just happened be there when shit goes down. While this might lead to couple of funny lines, it would mean that this sham would be a big chunk of our association with them and that would thin the joke considerably - and as long as the pretense lasted, Ryder would be barred from open conversation with Reyes whenever this person was present.

I’d definitely prefer an old insider who'd provide us with new information and glimpses into the Collective's high tier operations. This would be the path for players who chose Reyes and therefore can be assumed to have no objection to learning more about him, his organization and his past. I want to see new things done with Reyes.

The ME3 classes were so good. My favorite’s the Turian sentinel, who’s slow and can’t dodge, but who does good damage and is durable enough to take a banshee projectile hit without flinching. No such feel for MEA options. Pity we can’t play together, it would’ve been fun.

It’s just the short curly hair, I think it’s fine. The old man face just doesn’t go seamlessly with the hair (it’s probably designed to go with Alec’s slicked back hair).

Imagine him and Reyes’ shuttle personnel having a smoke with Ryder’s squaddies outside the cave, waiting while Reyes and Ryder have their confrontation and making up session. Maybe Ryder could have a word with him about him revealing Ryder's presence at the cave to Kaetus, since that can endanger Ryder if Kaetus ever gets loose. Well, not that that's very likely; Mr Sniper Guy probably predicted a very short life expectancy for Kaetus. Regardless, it seems he at least is glad about the Pathfinder being on their side.


I would die if I was forced to just watch while Reyes was in danger.  I already started to panic when Reyes suggested the duel, thinking he was sincere (fortunately he’s insincere and deceitful ).

Anyway, we already know what Reyes really is made of. Direct fight would just mean having to see how he fares in a situation that’s not his main forte. It would be interesting, yes, but I don’t view it as a big personality revelation if a sniping infiltrator is forced to melee a charging Krogan, for example. It’s just being disadvantaged.

Reyes could maybe pilot a mech (a special modded Hydra?). Still putting some distance to direct combat, while being directly in combat. Also he's a pilot, so that might be familiar grounds for him. Or maybe a gunship? The sort of mini-bosses our ME player characters have fought against previously, only this time it would someone friendly controlling them - it would be an interesting turn, and also fitting for a shady gangster ally. Kaetus could come at him with an Outcast squad (either his hunting party sent by Sloane, or the remnant Outcasts stragglers if Sloane's dead).

That would have to be after the game, since you can go to the Collective HQ after High Noon and she still doesn’t know the Charlatan personally.

I agree that Keema would make a better enemy than a squaddie, but I don’t think she’s grand enough for a BioWare boss. She’d have to be a traitor working for some Big Bad, tying the plot into some bigger threat. I bet there’s something in that black hole in the middle of the cluster. A big, sleeping cthulhu-thing, and maybe a means for fast travel between clusters? Something like that.

Why would Ryder feel the need to prove themselves to some rando thug?  Anyway, I think they’d go with the Omega model, without Ryder getting input from our own squad, sadly enough. One of the reasons I’d prefer the model we’ve discussed before, where Reyes (or Kaetus) would become a temp squadmate/information broker and board the Tempest for the DLC’s duration.

Oh hell, I can imagine a Keema t-shirt plague taking over Heleus. It's not pretty, not pretty at all.

I don't know, he was probably never even meant to be that closely studied, but he still somehow reminds me of this


Well, I’m definitely imagining them, what else are they to do in that awkward situation They might even exchange some gossip about their bosses to pass the time and lessen the discomfort... But if you think about it, the Kaetus revelation thing is quite unprofessional from Mr Sniper guy in any case. Reyes surely must have other reasons to trust him than discretion..

Also, eating popcorn while the two sides fight gets you no allies and all that.. but you could always stop eating that popcorn and come give a hand if the situation gets too dire But one of these days I’d love to see that option, if only as that get-sloshed-on-Sloane’s-party joke scene.
It wouldn’t be character making for sure, however, it would answer a question about the character.. faced with severe disadvantage like that, will he prove to have enough skill to get through or get smashed to tiny pieces? The Charlatan business is dangerous, there are many types of situations you need to survive and as Zia proves, one sometimes gets called out and what then? (and also another, more practical one... is Reyes actually any good in combat at all?)
The gunship would be amazing, though. I can totally see him waltzing with it to the final bossfight or something like that. But I’m not really sure how would a gunship fare with those level-up screens and the companion management in general... which again leads me to think Reyes makes much better NPC than actual squadmate, being close during the entire mission but not really in the field, save for some very notable special moments like that. (Nyreen isn’t a squadmate for the entirety of Omega either)

Oh, that might be good... I guess it would have to be some Jardaan or opposition cthulhu thing, unless it’s the cthulhu thing they all fought against because these narratives always get bigger and bigger. And Keema looks so untrustworthy you could even blame her of being the cthulhu thing taking a holiday in disguise...

Btw, as an afterthought, while I agree the Charlatan business needs to move on, it might be fun if hopelessly clueless Evfra were finally confronted with Reyes’ secret identity somewhere along the way. Some more material for fuming Evfra archives never hurts...

starlord Omega’s fun. A little Cerberus murdering holiday in great company. Also has that heart warming scene where you find the couch...