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Post by The Elder King on Nov 2, 2016 19:05:04 GMT
The second I saw the "Andromeda Initiative" logo I've concluded they probably just changed it from "Pathfinder" and maybe they call you something else and thank god for that. I don't want to hear characters go "Hey, pathfinder, I've found something". They will say "Ryder" instead, but I wonder what "Pathfinder" will be replaced with. Maybe "Initiator"? xD I think that even after the possible switch to Ai (which we had reference since E3) they kept saying Ryder is a pathfinder, so the title will likely remain.
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Post by bshep on Nov 2, 2016 19:06:44 GMT
I guess I'll just copy + past what I posted in the video's comments: Thoughts: This was a nice and unexpected teaser, good to get confirmation that Ryder Dad is Lex Luthor. Noticed: Maybe we'll have modular armor like in ME 2-3, since femRyder has a armor over her wetsuit outfit we saw her wake up in, namely the chest piece. I do want to say that the Andromeda Initiative uniform has the same color scheme as the Explorer armor from Mass Effect 1, which was my favorite armor coloring from that game. Also why is there only 1 Ark ship in this trailer, is this the human Ark ship with the other races building similar ones over their home planets? For N7 day I'd like to see Gameplay. loads and loads of Gameplay. A look at the character creator, a story trailer, trailer for the Ryder family, trailers for the companions, something that explains who was in charge of the Andromeda Initiative and why they want to go to Andromeda, a trailer for which races are going to Andromeda, a look at armor customization, a look inside the Ark ships, a look inside the Tempest. Hopefully all that and more, but spaced out from N7 day onward. Don't expect too much from November 7th. A trailer is more likely to be the only info to happen on that day. However i believe we will see some of those things you said in the coming weeks and months after N7Day.
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Post by The Elder King on Nov 2, 2016 19:09:25 GMT
I guess I'll just copy + past what I posted in the video's comments: Thoughts: This was a nice and unexpected teaser, good to get confirmation that Ryder Dad is Lex Luthor. Noticed: Maybe we'll have modular armor like in ME 2-3, since femRyder has a armor over her wetsuit outfit we saw her wake up in, namely the chest piece. I do want to say that the Andromeda Initiative uniform has the same color scheme as the Explorer armor from Mass Effect 1, which was my favorite armor coloring from that game. Also why is there only 1 Ark ship in this trailer, is this the human Ark ship with the other races building similar ones over their home planets? For N7 day I'd like to see Gameplay. loads and loads of Gameplay. A look at the character creator, a story trailer, trailer for the Ryder family, trailers for the companions, something that explains who was in charge of the Andromeda Initiative and why they want to go to Andromeda, a trailer for which races are going to Andromeda, a look at armor customization, a look inside the Ark ships, a look inside the Tempest. Hopefully all that and more, but spaced out from N7 day onward. Don't expect too much from November 7th. A trailer is more likely to be the only info to happen on that day. However i believe we will see some of those things you said in the coming weeks and months after N7Day. I think it's better to keep expectations low, but I don't think we'll get only a trailer. If the game is truly going to be released in March, they have to release more info. Not that it matters that much, since the next day the GI issue will be up, and probably the various previews as well.
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Post by Element Zero on Nov 2, 2016 19:15:38 GMT
If you say so. I see one person dressed appropriately for an unknown environment, and the other dressed for a hangout in the park with her friends. The truth of the matter is that each is dressed as she is for marketing reasons, not because it's appropriate for the environment. Those in armour may well be wearing armour because they are the ones trained with and capable of wearing it. They are also the ones whose role it is to take on the bulk of the combat role. Like I said, this very probably is not a military expedition. Unlike ME, the party isn't necessarily a combat party deliberately going into front-line hostile shoot outs. It isn't reasonable to assume that there is sufficient arms and armour available to the expedition to allow them to be giving out battle armour to scientists and other non-combat personnel. The fact that such armour is capable of surviving in a vacuum or hostile environmental conditions does not mean that there is any expectation of such things in the area where we see the Asari. It's like saying it makes no sense for Indiana Jones to have gone exploring without a gas mask and kevlar due to all the gas and dart traps he might accidentally be tripping in these abandoned tombs. He's an explorer not the SAS! Same thing here. I have no problem with what she's wearing. Indiana Jones never leaves the planet Earth, so that's apples and oranges. We aren't likely to agree on this particular reasoning point, though I'm not sure we are really having a serious disagreement here, or why we're going in circles. I made a simple, "I hope this isn't the case based upon ME2," comment. I'm not drawing a line in the sand. Regardless, anyone who goes into space, be they Alan Shepard, Sally Ride or Indiana Jones, needs a space suit. Those hardsuits are the spacesuits of the 22C. Wearing them on alien worlds is just good sense, and not solely for the purpose of using them as a weapons platform. I do think this venture will be more military than you believe, but we shall see. We're both just making informed guesses, at this point.
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Post by Sartoz on Nov 2, 2016 19:18:15 GMT
It was also mentioned at the time that this could easily be a commemorative replica at the landing site. ,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸ Good point.
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Post by Tarkus on Nov 2, 2016 19:19:05 GMT
Don't expect too much from November 7th. A trailer is more likely to be the only info to happen on that day. However i believe we will see some of those things you said in the coming weeks and months after N7Day. Yeah, I'm mainly hoping for a substantial gameplay trailer on N7 Day and expecting/hoping the other stuff to be shown in the coming weeks/months
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Post by fade9wayz on Nov 2, 2016 19:22:35 GMT
Love when I see someone use evidence to support his/her claims. Makes the scientist in me happy. ,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸ Sigh...
I have no clue from what platform that pic is taken.
However I do have a NASA-Apollo8-Dec24-Earthrise official image of the earth taken from the moon. See below.
Depends if the moon is at its apogee or perigee in its orbit around the Earth. At its apogee, its 405 400 km away, at its perigee, only 362 600 km. Earth looks pretty big when the moon is at its perigee.
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Post by goishen on Nov 2, 2016 19:22:44 GMT
The second I saw the "Andromeda Initiative" logo I've concluded they probably just changed it from "Pathfinder" and maybe they call you something else and thank god for that. I don't want to hear characters go "Hey, pathfinder, I've found something". They will say "Ryder" instead, but I wonder what "Pathfinder" will be replaced with. Maybe "Initiator"? xD Initiate.
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Post by The Elder King on Nov 2, 2016 19:24:05 GMT
They still call Ryder a Pathfinder in interviews. The title isn't changed, it seems.
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Post by Sartoz on Nov 2, 2016 19:24:46 GMT
,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸ Speaking of, I don't mind the Asari's outfit as long as she's not in a vacuum or toxic environment.
But, given past Bio history, I would be surprised if out beloved Ascoon gets a different armour/Outfit/Suit from Bio when we go exploring in desolated moons. That would make it too real, I guess. And, if are allowed to change her outfit, say with a helmet and combat armour, then the Ascoon would not be the Ascoon as we know her and changes what Bio writers+artists want to project about her character. I mean, she just becomes anonymous, yes?
But, that's just me.
I disagree. She could still wear a full space suit/armor and still be iconic. Bioware has done it before. Characters like Garrus, Tali, James, and the other companions who had a full suit/armor still had it be unique to them and capture their character. Even in MEA we see that with the unnamed Krogan, who has decorated their armor with what appear to be bones or something like that. They's be able to do the same for this Asari. ,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸ Iconic... good point.
And her current outfit really makes her iconic. It's what makes her stand out, imo. ... which is why we are discussing her. As I mentioned before, I do want the right gear for a specific environment. I just don't believe Bio will go to that trouble.
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Post by bshep on Nov 2, 2016 19:26:28 GMT
Don't expect too much from November 7th. A trailer is more likely to be the only info to happen on that day. However i believe we will see some of those things you said in the coming weeks and months after N7Day. Yeah, I'm mainly hoping for a substantial gameplay trailer on N7 Day and expecting/hoping the other stuff to be shown in the coming weeks/months The trailer(maybe gameplay or cgi) i think it's 99% sure to happen xD But i have a bit of hope they talk about the story synopsis too.
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Post by The Elder King on Nov 2, 2016 19:26:56 GMT
They did it in DAI. While she didn't have a helmet, Vivienne had some outside who were more armored then others.
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Post by themikefest on Nov 2, 2016 19:43:36 GMT
You will be missed Earth. Not really. For you, sure. For me, yes.
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Post by Sartoz on Nov 2, 2016 19:46:10 GMT
,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸ Sigh...
I have no clue from what platform that pic is taken.
However I do have a NASA-Apollo8-Dec24-Earthrise official image of the earth taken from the moon. See below.
Depends if the moon is at its apogee or perigee in its orbit around the Earth. At its apogee, its 405 400 km away, at its perigee, only 362 600 km. Earth looks pretty big when the moon is at its perigee. ,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸ At those distances, 40K km difference is peanuts. Look at it from the other end. The moon doesn't get to be 10x bigger at perigee. On Dec 19, 1968 the moon was 356K km from Earth, while on Dec 5th it was 406K km. So, when the image was taken, the moon was closest to Earth. Moon Distance Calculator link: www.timeanddate.com/astronomy/moon/distance.html?year=1968&n=239
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Post by goishen on Nov 2, 2016 19:54:05 GMT
Well, I've seen the moon take a good quarter of the sky. It was on a day when we were having a super moon, although I didn't know it. I was driving home, and there's this one section where a highway goes into a freeway. Right above that is where I saw the moon. I just wondered WTF was wrong with the moon and actually wondered if we were all gonna die. I had visions in my head of the moon carrying tides over, etc.
I'm just taking it's during one of those super moons. That's about the only way I can explain it to myself.
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Post by themikefest on Nov 2, 2016 19:54:17 GMT
But, given past Bio history, I would be surprised if out beloved Ascoon gets a different armour/Outfit/Suit from Bio when we go exploring in desolated moons. That would make it too real, I guess. And, if are allowed to change her outfit, say with a helmet and combat armour, then the Ascoon would not be the Ascoon as we know her and changes what Bio writers+artists want to project about her character. I mean, she just becomes anonymous, yes? I gave you a like for saying ascoon. excellent
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Post by Thrombin on Nov 2, 2016 19:59:32 GMT
Indiana Jones never leaves the planet Earth, so that's apples and oranges. We aren't likely to agree on this particular reasoning point, though I'm not sure we are really having a serious disagreement here, or why we're going in circles. I made a simple, "I hope this isn't the case based upon ME2," comment. I'm not drawing a line in the sand. Regardless, anyone who goes into space, be they Alan Shepard, Sally Ride or Indiana Jones, needs a space suit. Those hardsuits are the spacesuits of the 22C. Wearing them on alien worlds is just good sense, and not solely for the purpose of using them as a weapons platform. I do think this venture will be more military than you believe, but we shall see. We're both just making informed guesses, at this point. My point is, you don't go around loaded with gear for every possible eventuality no matter how remote it might be. You go around in what's practical for the situation at hand. Fair enough if they are on some kind of alien spaceship in that video but, otherwise, I don't see any logical reason for anyone to be wearing a spacesuit. If they are exploring some building on a perfectly normal planet with breathable atmosphere and no hostile environmental conditions then what possible use would a space suit be? Even on the Citadel they don't walk around in space suits and that's a space station! I agree that neither of us really knows what the situation in that video is or how military or non-military the expedition might be but, that's kind of my point. It may be that her outfit is unsuitalbe for where she is but it might equally be that it's not. So it seems unreasonable, to me, to be assuming that it's not suitable on the information we have.
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Post by dalinne on Nov 2, 2016 20:39:54 GMT
Yeah the raccoon certainly is getting a heap of marketing attention. I've gone from hoping she was just an npc character being shown to resigned that she'll be a non optional squaddie. ,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸ Ninja Asari was probably put there to resolve the romance formula (they are bi after all). Also, from the concept art, her costume won't change. I guess she can breath vacuum / toxic atmosphere while the human can't.
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Post by Element Zero on Nov 2, 2016 20:49:09 GMT
Indiana Jones never leaves the planet Earth, so that's apples and oranges. We aren't likely to agree on this particular reasoning point, though I'm not sure we are really having a serious disagreement here, or why we're going in circles. I made a simple, "I hope this isn't the case based upon ME2," comment. I'm not drawing a line in the sand. Regardless, anyone who goes into space, be they Alan Shepard, Sally Ride or Indiana Jones, needs a space suit. Those hardsuits are the spacesuits of the 22C. Wearing them on alien worlds is just good sense, and not solely for the purpose of using them as a weapons platform. I do think this venture will be more military than you believe, but we shall see. We're both just making informed guesses, at this point. It may be that her outfit is unsuitalbe for where she is but it might equally be that it's not. So it seems unreasonable, to me, to be assuming that it's not suitable on the information we have. I said this, more than once, including in my original post. This is what I mean about us going in circles around an imagined disagreement. I'm not sure we are truly disagreeing.
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Post by themikefest on Nov 2, 2016 20:51:44 GMT
Ejem, ejem... They all are not Ejem, ejem... Too bad there wasn't a renegade interrupt for Shepard to say something to her, hit her or both
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Post by The Biotic Trebuchet on Nov 2, 2016 20:56:20 GMT
Ejem, ejem... They all are not Ejem, ejem... Too bad there wasn't a renegade interrupt for Shepard to say something to her, hit her or both "I should go"
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Post by themikefest on Nov 2, 2016 21:04:08 GMT
Too bad there wasn't a renegade interrupt for Shepard to say something to her, hit her or both "I should go" More like punch her or say what the heck was that crap. Now I have to throw my armor out because its been touched and contaminated by an alien. I have to take a shower to get rid of the smell and take the top layer off my lip off so it doesn't leave a bad taste in my mouth. Knowing my Shepard, she would shoot the asari without hesitation
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Post by KingDarious BBB on Nov 2, 2016 22:10:41 GMT
More like punch her or say what the heck was that crap. Now I have to throw my armor out because its been touched and contaminated by an alien. I have to take a shower to get rid of the smell and take the top layer off my lip off so it doesn't leave a bad taste in my mouth. Knowing my Shepard, she would shoot the asari without hesitation Damn tell us how you really feel.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 2, 2016 22:14:15 GMT
Ejem, ejem... They all are not Ejem, ejem... Too bad there wasn't a renegade interrupt for Shepard to say something to her, hit her or both Luckily I never have to worry about that since I pretty much always spare Petrovsky.
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