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Post by Catilina on Jan 1, 2017 19:23:12 GMT
But Anders in an m/m romance has never been ambiguous. He clearly says that gender doesn't matter to him but the person behind it. Only the Anders in an w/m playthrough could be seen as ambiguous. Yes, but this is –at least– stupid, because his relationship with Karl was interesting aspect of the story, and this is why some women felt cheated, that this information was hidden before them. (And suggest that the bisexuality is something that better be hidden.) In any case, this seems double standard. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2017 19:23:35 GMT
Ye, I just pointed that out, because it was said that the developers initially said that two characters were planned to be bisexual and two ambiguous. But if you play as a male character only Merril could be seen as ambiguous at any point in the game. Fenris can enter an affair with Isabela, Anders points out, that gender doesn't matter to him and Isabela is very openly bisexual. Ah! I got it! Yep, Isabela and Anders are definitely NOT ambigious. Merrill is definitely one of the ambiguous ones. I think they meant Fenris as the other, but that conveniently forgets that he is able to hook up with Isabela. Granted, it could mean he's "ambiguous" as in he's either straight or bisexual. But that's a stretch because that describes pretty much any of the characters who don't explicitly mention both sexes and/or declare their sexuality outright (but I don't think that any actually do that). |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2017 19:25:11 GMT
But Anders in an m/m romance has never been ambiguous. He clearly says that gender doesn't matter to him but the person behind it. Only the Anders in an w/m playthrough could be seen as ambiguous. Yes, but this is –at least– stupid, because his relationship with Karl was interesting aspect of the story, and this is why some women felt cheated, that this information was hidden before them. (And suggest that the bisexuality is something that better be hidden.) In any case, this is double standard. yes, I found it stupid either. |
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 1, 2017 19:30:08 GMT
Ye, I just pointed that out, because it was said that the developers initially said that two characters were planned to be bisexual and two ambiguous. But if you play as a male character only Merril could be seen as ambiguous at any point in the game. Fenris can enter an affair with Isabela, Anders points out, that gender doesn't matter to him and Isabela is very openly bisexual. Ah! I got it! Yep, Isabela and Anders are definitely NOT ambigious. Merrill is definitely one of the ambiguous ones. I think they meant Fenris as the other, but that conveniently forgets that he is able to hook up with Isabela. Granted, it could mean he's "ambiguous" as in he's either straight or bisexual. But that's a stretch because that describes pretty much any of the characters who don't explicitly mention both sexes and/or declare their sexuality outright (but I don't think that any actually do that). Ah, the good old days. Before David Gaider had to ruin it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2017 19:33:03 GMT
Ye, I just pointed that out, because it was said that the developers initially said that two characters were planned to be bisexual and two ambiguous. But if you play as a male character only Merril could be seen as ambiguous at any point in the game. Fenris can enter an affair with Isabela, Anders points out, that gender doesn't matter to him and Isabela is very openly bisexual. Ah! I got it! Yep, Isabela and Anders are definitely NOT ambigious. Merrill is definitely one of the ambiguous ones. I think they meant Fenris as the other, but that conveniently forgets that he is able to hook up with Isabela. Granted, it could mean he's "ambiguous" as in he's either straight or bisexual. But that's a stretch because that describes pretty much any of the characters who don't explicitly mention both sexes and/or declare their sexuality outright (but I don't think that any actually do that). Yes you're right. They meant Fenris. Personally, I think ambiguous characters only make sense if they are ambiguous in each playthrough, not matter whether you play as male or female character. Otherwise it seems like a lame excuse to hide their bisexuality from the greater audience. |
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 2, 2017 5:53:55 GMT
But Anders in an m/m romance has never been ambiguous. He clearly says that gender doesn't matter to him but the person behind it. Only the Anders in an w/m playthrough could be seen as ambiguous. Yes, but this is –at least– stupid, because his relationship with Karl was interesting aspect of the story, and this is why some women felt cheated, that this information was hidden before them. (And suggest that the bisexuality is something that better be hidden.) In any case, this seems double standard. It's also real life realistic. I've heard of cases where guys who showed any interest in something that might be perceived as "gay" (pegging, for example, which isn't gay because it doesn't involve another guy) ended up having their female partners believe the guys were gay. Now imagine the woman hears her bf also likes guys. She'll end up thinking he's really gay but not ready to come out. Obviously, that doesn't always happen but it happens often enough that I can imagine Anders hiding the information from a female LI while being more open with a male LI (think of those gay guys who desperately want to sleep with straight guys). |
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Post by Catilina on Jan 2, 2017 12:05:39 GMT
Yes, but this is –at least– stupid, because his relationship with Karl was interesting aspect of the story, and this is why some women felt cheated, that this information was hidden before them. (And suggest that the bisexuality is something that better be hidden.) In any case, this seems double standard. It's also real life realistic. I've heard of cases where guys who showed any interest in something that might be perceived as "gay" (pegging, for example, which isn't gay because it doesn't involve another guy) ended up having their female partners believe the guys were gay. Now imagine the woman hears her bf also likes guys. She'll end up thinking he's really gay but not ready to come out. Obviously, that doesn't always happen but it happens often enough that I can imagine Anders hiding the information from a female LI while being more open with a male LI (think of those gay guys who desperately want to sleep with straight guys). At this moment we can't talk about a (potential) lover. At this moment Hawke a wo/man, who helped him a very personal matter. Why he didn't talked about his relationship with Karl to a woman, and why he talked about with a man? We know, that he will love Hawke, but he don't know anything about it yet. Their love is fulfilled just three years' later. As I see. (In addition, it is not our world. Here this is a piece of information.) |
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