Is there a reasoning for the Super Deluxe Edition?

I am optimistic. I am buying the game for the single player and if multiplayer is as good as I predict it will be, it will be money well spent. I bought ME3 for SP and was very pleasantly surprised when I discovered MP.. I think the developers are smart enough to incorporate the good stuff from ME3MP and discard the crap from the hot mess that was DAI.. Yes, they are looking for an angle to make money, but if it helps support more DLC, would it not be worth it? Don't know what the super duper packs will actually contain, but if I can actually get gear I want instead of more explosive ammo and a lot of futile grinding I did to max my ME3 manifest... Expedience has its price. Guess we will just have to wait and see.

If we are talking about free DLC, nothing would support it any better than having a community that is large, active, vibrant, engaged plus other adjectives of this sort. When you have all of that, you may end up having quite a few people willing to pay real world dollars for virtual gambling. That is what we had during ME3, and that seems to have worked out for the most part. We got 5 free DLCs. In DAMP, for instance, there was 1 free thing that we could actually call a DLC (released after most of the community had already quit). Now whether the community will be awesome or not, it comes down to the game itself and the way the devs handle it.

Now if you for some reason believe that paying as much as you can upfront as a mean to support future content, you are taking two serious risks: the game may or may not be that good, the community may or may not survive long enough to make it worth.

Ah, I really am not a fan of the whole topic of what's nice and what's not nice to people. They sell what people buy. the price tag for a fully geared character in most games, through RNG or otherwise is on the order of a thousand or a few thousand bucks. That's far too much for me, because I am not a good player to start with, so gear does not impact my game performance or enjoyment. I suck without, I will still suck with it. Any time I spend on a game is my happy me time, and if I don't enjoy playing because gear is too hard to get and the game feels like there is no winning and it is all about grind... that means I am not enjoying this game, period, not that I would enjoy it if only I have had this or that. I am a frugal person, and my biggest dream in life is an early retirement to get the hells out of the commute and office and the bloody pretence of doing important stuff, so yeah, 50$ towards that is better spent than towards avoiding playing the game I don't enjoy, because I can avoid it for free by not logging in.

I am absolutely in favor of paying the singer for the entertainment, however, I personally will not pay for a promise of "owning". Not because it is unfair, but because I am not vain, so I accept that my gaming ability is low and I do not shift the blame for it on the external factors, and therefor am not trying to fix those imaginary problems with money.

if I excelled, and playing one particular character was a passion of my life, and I could actually win in a competitive setting, or it brought in some income doing it, etc, and it brought me joy, well, then, investing real money in that character in a video game would make sense to me and I don't really begrudge it to those folks who do it that way.

I feel like we should be showing some appreciation for years of enjoyment we got out of the ME3MP, 20 extra bucks is not that much, as a one time thing. Specially for someone like me who boycotted all Origin/EA games except ME which I still have faith in, I could live with myself even if it was a bad investment, it's not like I will spend anything on future EA titles anytime soon.

But then again, I'm worried I'll run out of cash to buy that day 1 DLC and season pass after.. which may bring total cost of the game well over 150€ and it becomes a point where it starts to get a bit ridiculous..

It's highly possible things might go toward DA:I route and both mp and this deluxe thing will be nothing but a quick cash grab - I have very little faith in Bioware/EA after seeing DA:I mp, even more so after saying that part of reasoning for it's addition was the huge success of ME3MP, but DAI was nothing like it. We might remember that the original version of ME3MP was a "fortunate coincidence" for the consumer, and I'm afraid those good days are over.

Will I be getting the super deluxe? I kind of want to, but I'm pretty convinced it's an overpriced scam.

Wasn't there supposed to be a way to upgrade at a later time? I think best thing to do is simply grabbing the regular deluxe for starters and see how MP and these premium packs turn out. Usually these things are not that much worth it anyway.

I bought ME3 DLC - I believe that showed my appreciation enough.

No.

Yeah this feels like DAIMP all over again. They never (*) explained how the store worked in that game, so paying real money for random packs (chests) was a complete shot in the dark. Were you actually "paying to win" or were you just farting your money away? Who knows?

(*) never while I was actively playing DAIMP and clearly anything that happened after I stopped playing doesn't matter

For MEAMP, I certainly share the hope that it's a fun game but I am _highly_ dubious about it. Definitely not going to spend my money blind.

Exactly my thoughts.

I don't like paying much more than standard full price for a game but, who knows, if this happens to be as good as ME3MP and better than DAMP, I might not buy any other game for maybe a year. It won't hunt my bank account paying that much more for a game that I know I will be playing for over a thousand hours.

But if the Multiplayer happens to be mediocre and the community dies within 3 months, what am I supposed to do with a 20-week benefit I paid premium for?

That is why I believe this conversation is important and also the reason I asked in the original post, "what do you guys expect to see from this edition for such a high-price".

Honestly, getting packs spread out over time sounds better to me than getting a bunch of packs day one. Less efficient from a progression standpoint, which is actually why I like it. I've never cared to spend money on a chance to unlock something, and I have more fun just making due with what I have in game anyways. However, I've played so much MP over the years without buying MP packs that I feel supporting it is overdue. The super deluxe would allow me to support the game a bit more, without making a huge impact on my in game progression.

One extra pack in week one likely won't be a game changer, but twenty packs week one could be. I will wait for MP gameplay before deciding on the edition I get though. I normally just buy SP DLC to support the game, but we'll see.

This is besides the point of this thread. Of course those kind of accusations are ridiculous. But the question here is, that we, as consumers, have the right to debate whether this is a good purchase or not.

MEA is not a F2P game, but a lot of newer games have adopted the standard of selling ingame boosters that fund future development of the game. And I don't have a problem with that. Example: Overwatch. It's pretty obvious that OW will be continuously developed as people including myself are buying their seasonal lootboxes. But this is not the case with EA/BW. They kind of release their new titles, sell some DLC and quickly move on.

So will our purchases just fill EA's pockets as extra profit? This is what I'm highly skeptical about. We'll never know how much impact this actually has for the next ME or a free MEAMP expansion, but there has to be some figures that the higher ups are looking at when deciding for a sequel, and they probably already have plans for MP expansions that are cut out of the game which will be delivered later as "free" as a clever PR move.

For one thing is sure: I am convinced that any MEA future development and patch support will cease after determined time probably set by EA, like it did for ME3 and this just might be around those 20  weeks when the last patch and expansion hits. So will our purchases have any impact on future development? I kind of doubt it. Did they really make all those expansions for ME3 because the packs were selling? Honestly I don't see a reason why would anyone buy ME3 packs as they were incredibly overpriced so I'm still kind of surprised by this, it feels almost as if back then BW was left to do their own thing with ME3 for a whole year twiddling around with weekly balance passes and expansions, while DAI did not get a treatment like this at all..