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Post by Andrew Lucas on Jan 5, 2017 23:52:08 GMT
Tier 1 one or 2. Bioware has never failed me. Sure, some misteps are bound to happen. But they always gimme me my favorite gaming memories. Also, I'm incredibly optimistic about MEA. It will be great.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2017 23:52:49 GMT
I voted Tier 1 and Tier 2, expecting it will be an excellent game that could easily become a classic, but that some people will insist on pulling apart mercilessly - digging up every little tiny flaw and making mountains out of them. With people being so critical over every minute thing that really just goes against their personal preferences, it's very likely that much of the game's WOW factor will get lost amid all the negativity and pessimism here. I don't think it's a problem restricted to this game though... people don't seem to want to allow themselves to be impressed by anything these days. Shame really. Oh I do get impressed with games that deserve it. I won't mention any particular titles as it could drive this thread off topic. To keep things Bioware related, let's just say KotOR was a game that truly impressed me - but otherwise ther just aren't enough games that are on that level anymore. ME2 story did not impress me, only the combat. It was off-track. ME3 was better, but had other issues. Hence I am not expecting to be impressed by the singleplayer story in MEA. Thank you for proving my point. You list personal preferences and essentially state that you feel there are fewer games that can impress anymore. Also, why bother to counter with my post rather than just agreeing with someone who has stated they voted for a lower tier than I did? What's your objection to MY having higher expectations for this game? I can also assure you that I do get unimpressed by things that are not genuinely impressive; but unlike a lot of people, I am not afraid to be disappointed, so I am quite comfortable having high hopes for something. Oh... and ME2 is a bona fide classic... and I am not the one doing the ratings: www.gamesradar.com/best-games-ever/
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Post by colfoley on Jan 5, 2017 23:54:07 GMT
BioWare has given me my favorite game of all time. So Two Tier 1s, Three Tier 2s (if you don't count Awakening) and one Tier 3. Miine too and that's ME2 of course as that'#s my favouriet game at the moment and the ME trilogy is my favourite series of games. I think it'll fall somewhere in the top 3 tiers for certain. I don't think it'll be a bad game at all and in fact I'd like to think it won't have any flaws and will do well and I think in general it will. But there are a few things I've noticed that might worry some people such as the only having 3 active skills at one time not quite so much cover to run in behind to take out asn opponent that sort of thing. In general though so long as it's no more difficult to play than Bioware's other games I'd be willing to overlook most of those shortcomings but some might not. We'll have to wait and see though. DA I was mine. ME 2 is the other Tier 1 though.
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Post by Cyonan on Jan 6, 2017 0:07:18 GMT
Based on current knowledge of the game my guess would be around tier 2-3.
I'm really hoping for a 1, but that category is very hard for a game to reach with me. In recent years I think the only games to actually hit that for me is DOOM and The Witcher 3(arguably my second favourite game of all time).
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Post by kino on Jan 6, 2017 0:09:22 GMT
I'm imagining that my personal experience will be Tier 2. It would really, really need to go off the rails for me to think Tier 4 or 5.
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Post by Sailears on Jan 6, 2017 0:09:48 GMT
Oh I do get impressed with games that deserve it. I won't mention any particular titles as it could drive this thread off topic. To keep things Bioware related, let's just say KotOR was a game that truly impressed me - but otherwise ther just aren't enough games that are on that level anymore. ME2 story did not impress me, only the combat. It was off-track. ME3 was better, but had other issues. Hence I am not expecting to be impressed by the singleplayer story in MEA. Thank you for proving my point. You list personal preferences and essentially state that you feel there are fewer games that can impress anymore. Also, why bother to counter with my post rather than just agreeing with someone who has stated they voted for a lower tier than I did? What's your objection to MY having higher expectations for this game? I can also assure you that I do get unimpressed by things that are not genuinely impressive; but unlike a lot of people, I am not afraid to be disappointed, so I am quite comfortable having high hopes for something. Oh... an ME2 is a bona fide classic... and I am not the one doing the ratings: www.gamesradar.com/best-games-ever/Calm down. I quoted you because I thought your comment indirectly included referring to my first post in this thread in which I gave a middle of the road rating. Oh and ME2 was initially received with a whole lot of pessimism and negativity. Somehow it seemed to survive that and is now bizarrely heralded as a "classic". It was and still is a poor sequel to ME1. Edit: I should add - it's disappointing when the level of enjoyment doesn't equate to the money spent, especially with all the DLC that companies like EA like to pump out. Hence low expectations and wait for reviews.
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Post by Archaengel_X on Jan 6, 2017 0:10:39 GMT
I am just going to say Tier 3. Although I hope that Andromeda is a fantastic game, I don't want to ruin the experience with sky-high expectations. For now, I just want the game to be fun.
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Post by Tiberius on Jan 6, 2017 0:15:21 GMT
I love every BW game, even ME3 (and I did hate the endings), and even DAI, that I'm afraid that the way I talk about it sometimes it seems like I hate it My least favourite BW game is still among my favourites, and if it MEA wasn't too, I'd be very surprised. Based on that, I voted tier 1 As for what I like and what I don't, or what looks good and interesting to me and what doesn't. Starting with the good things, I'm very happy that we're going to get less loading screen (I really hate them ); I think everything looks gorgeous; I liked having more dialogue options; I like the idea of a crafting system similar to DAI; I hope it's true that side-missions are going to be more "meaty" than in DAI; the profile system is starting to sound well to me (it worried me the first time I heard about it); the big monster fights that we will encounter in every planet also seem fun; I'm ok with 3 active skills Things I need to know more about: different personalities for Scott and Sara, which right now it's my only concern: depending on what this actually means, I can see it being something that could bother me, maybe even a lot But it might be something to which I'm actualy indifferent, can't say yet. Things I can live with: the resource gathering, because I found it absolutely tedious in DAI, but I'm hoping it's going to be better for what I've read about it; driving the nomad; making concessions to move away from the MW The bad thing: I don't really care for big maps (and driving around them), no matter how beatiful they are, I want less exploration and more story. I imagine/hope I will always be able to leave exploration aside if I want, so if the main story is good and the NPCs are interesting, I'll be ok. But the truth it's not the direction I'd like BW games to go. Oh I forgot to mention the bit about the true side missions and learning from Witcher in how to do them. Witcher is one of two games I thought that knocked side quests out of the park without squashing the story, the other was DA O. I'm curious. What's your favorite theory? *has a slight panic attack when he realizes he is talking to a dev. * I had a theory that the profiles were tied to your weapon selection. A lot like how in Dragon Age Origins you could swap out your weapon, say going from a bow and arrow to dual wielding daggers, and get a different set of powers associated for each weapon. Which means for ME A, I thought, that you could have a Sniper Rifle equipped and have say Overload, Tac Cloak, and Remnant VI quipped, but then switch to your AR and then you can have Flak Gun, Concussive Shot, and Adrenaline Rush tied to it. And the game would switch all the passives from one profile to the next based on which profile you assigned to which weapon. So in the first case have an 'Engineer' build and in the second case have more of an Infiltrator build. Ahh, interesting. Well, it doesn't work quite like that, no. But you're not SUPER far off. I can't go into the details of how it works right now, but we're in the midst of working on some interviews and videos that will collectively provide answers when they're ready--many questions I've received about power assignment, how profiles work, and related gameplay elements should finally get laid to rest. (before you ask: no, I don't tell you when exactly the interviews and vids will hit, but keep an ear to the ground!)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2017 0:18:01 GMT
Thank you for proving my point. You list personal preferences and essentially state that you feel there are fewer games that can impress anymore. Also, why bother to counter with my post rather than just agreeing with someone who has stated they voted for a lower tier than I did? What's your objection to MY having higher expectations for this game? I can also assure you that I do get unimpressed by things that are not genuinely impressive; but unlike a lot of people, I am not afraid to be disappointed, so I am quite comfortable having high hopes for something. Oh... an ME2 is a bona fide classic... and I am not the one doing the ratings: www.gamesradar.com/best-games-ever/Calm down. I quoted you because I thought your comment indirectly included referring to my first post in this thread in which I gave a middle of the road rating. Oh and ME2 was initially received with a whole lot of pessimism and negativity. Somehow it seemed to survive that and is now bizarrely heralded as a "classic". It was and still is a poor sequel to ME1. I assure you I am perfectly calm. I also assure you that I had not even read your post before posting my own here, so any indirect reference to your post is purely coincidental. I was referring more to posts appearing on the one thread mentioned by the OP and a long-standing general trend of negativity on the old BSN that has, it seems, carried over onto this site. Oh... and if you re-read my initial post on this thread... I said ME:A has an excellent chance of becoming a classic... implying that would be regardless of how it is initially received... just like ME2.
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Post by colfoley on Jan 6, 2017 0:19:24 GMT
Oh I forgot to mention the bit about the true side missions and learning from Witcher in how to do them. Witcher is one of two games I thought that knocked side quests out of the park without squashing the story, the other was DA O. *has a slight panic attack when he realizes he is talking to a dev. * I had a theory that the profiles were tied to your weapon selection. A lot like how in Dragon Age Origins you could swap out your weapon, say going from a bow and arrow to dual wielding daggers, and get a different set of powers associated for each weapon. Which means for ME A, I thought, that you could have a Sniper Rifle equipped and have say Overload, Tac Cloak, and Remnant VI quipped, but then switch to your AR and then you can have Flak Gun, Concussive Shot, and Adrenaline Rush tied to it. And the game would switch all the passives from one profile to the next based on which profile you assigned to which weapon. So in the first case have an 'Engineer' build and in the second case have more of an Infiltrator build. Ahh, interesting. Well, it doesn't work quite like that, no. But you're not SUPER far off. I can't go into the details of how it works right now, but we're in the midst of working on some interviews and videos that will collectively provide answers when they're ready--many questions I've received about power assignment, how profiles work, and related gameplay elements should finally get laid to rest. (before you ask: no, I don't tell you when exactly the interviews and vids will hit, but keep an ear to the ground!) In that case will definitely keep my ear to the ground. Thanks for taking the time out of your day.
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Post by Sailears on Jan 6, 2017 0:21:51 GMT
Calm down. I quoted you because I thought your comment indirectly included referring to my first post in this thread in which I gave a middle of the road rating. Oh and ME2 was initially received with a whole lot of pessimism and negativity. Somehow it seemed to survive that and is now bizarrely heralded as a "classic". It was and still is a poor sequel to ME1. I assure you I am perfectly calm. I also assure you that I had not even read your post before posting my own here, so any indirect reference to your post is purely coincidental. I was referring more to posts appearing on the one thread mentioned by the OP and a long-standing general trend of negativity on the old BSN that has, it seems, carried over onto this site. Oh... and if you re-read my initial post on this thread... I said ME:A has an excellent chance of becoming a classic... implying that would be regardless of how it is initially received... just like ME2. My apologies then. Despite coming across as negative I still do have emotional attachment to this franchise and do want to see it succeed. I'm pessimistic about it due to a number of factors - for example I don't know how they can salvage the lore after the end of ME3; I mean can we ever go back to the Milky Way or will any games there have to be set before the end of ME3... Or are we just going to leave all that behind never to return and simply continue the franchise in Andromeda? It doesn't sit well with me so in essence the whole foundation for MEA feels weak.
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Post by Trilobite Derby on Jan 6, 2017 0:58:19 GMT
I don't expect perfection.
I did that like... Once, when one of my favorite books got turned into a movie and I was absolutely CRUSHED when it wasn't what I hoped and dreamed and imagined. Years later, I went back and realized it wasn't a bad movie. I just expected so much that it made it pretty much impossible I'd enjoy it. It was a very valuable lesson as a fan. Go in expecting to enjoy yourself and you usually will... But expecting a transcendent experience will only wreck you when it lets you down (and if you expect crap and decide you'll hate it right away, it'll probably be a self-fulfilling prophecy).
Anyway, I've got enough guts to tell the internet I hated the movie version of Howl's Moving Castle, so I can also say that I expect it to fall squarely on tier 2. I consume so much media (mostly in the form of books) that it's really hard to knock my socks off. But I expect it'll be in pretty good shape and generally fun to play, with some great moments and some rage-inducing derps.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2017 1:25:51 GMT
I assure you I am perfectly calm. I also assure you that I had not even read your post before posting my own here, so any indirect reference to your post is purely coincidental. I was referring more to posts appearing on the one thread mentioned by the OP and a long-standing general trend of negativity on the old BSN that has, it seems, carried over onto this site. Oh... and if you re-read my initial post on this thread... I said ME:A has an excellent chance of becoming a classic... implying that would be regardless of how it is initially received... just like ME2. My apologies then. Despite coming across as negative I still do have emotional attachment to this franchise and do want to see it succeed. I'm pessimistic about it due to a number of factors - for example I don't know how they can salvage the lore after the end of ME3; I mean can we ever go back to the Milky Way or will any games there have to be set before the end of ME3... Or are we just going to leave all that behind never to return and simply continue the franchise in Andromeda? It doesn't sit well with me so in essence the whole foundation for MEA feels weak. No worries. Sorry about the misunderstanding. Personally, I really don't mind if they break with parts of the ME Trilogy lore at this point if it enables them to replace some of the inherently faulty and contradictory parts of it with "better, more consistent" lore for the future. Also, staying with the old setting of the Milky Way is not a priority with me either. I'm stoked about eventually discovering a whole new galaxy. The ME Trilogy was a great experience for me, but it did have it's flaws... even in the lore of the first game of it. I'm OK with just putting it to rest now and I'm open to learning to love a whole new "Mass Effect."
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Post by Part Time Ninja on Jan 6, 2017 1:56:53 GMT
I'm excited about diving back into Mass Effect. So much so, I will likely book time away from work to play the game properly.
My concerns are largely regarding the fact that Mass Effect for me was about the characters. None of whom will feature in this title. I just hope they can conjure up the same magic with the new cast. I have little doubt the overall game will be "good".
I just hope it's "Bioware good".
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Post by zarrokhai on Jan 6, 2017 2:06:11 GMT
As a big fan of the original trilogy, heck any Bioware game for that matter, I'm definitely expecting a really good game. Still, it's too early for me to call it a classic when we haven't played it yet. So, for now my bet is on Tier 2, an awesome experience but I expect certain flaws in the game(that I will probably overlook).
The plot potential is there, now the execution is all that worries me.
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Post by President of Boom on Jan 6, 2017 2:44:27 GMT
Tier 1 would be amazing, but realistically it's probably going to be Tier 2 or Tier 3 unless there is a serious bug--like the banter bug that plagued my playthroughs of DAI--which would bump it down to Tier 4. I can't think of anything that would lower it to the status of garbage.
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Post by spacev3gan on Jan 6, 2017 3:20:40 GMT
I gave it a Tier 1. That is because I really bet its Multiplayer will be great.
If I were to grade previous Bioware games, I'd say ME2 and ME3 are Tier 1, DA:I is Tier 2, ME1 and DA:O are Tier 3 and DA2 is Tier 4.
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Post by soultaker65 on Jan 6, 2017 3:44:17 GMT
I feel it's going to fall somewhere between Tier 3 and Tier 4.
Having just finished Dragon Age: Inquisition, I don't think the current BioWare can make a Tier 1 or Tier 2 game.
I just hope the multiplayer doesn't suck.
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Post by LFS on Jan 6, 2017 4:06:21 GMT
No game is perfect, but I'm hoping for and expecting my wholly subjective experience to land it in the upper tiers.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 6, 2017 4:18:56 GMT
Tier 1-2, but I voted Tier 2. I think it's going to be awesome. I played the KOTOR games, I played NWN and then picked up DA and ME without even knowing that it was the same company involved and loved them both. The MET is my all-time favorite game ever. Honestly, though I see where people are disappointed, I don't identify with it. I less loved DA games but I think it's a genre issue more than anything: more of a sci-fi guy than a fantasy guy. I do remember being disappointed when my Warden didn't appear in DA2. OTOH, I was so happy to follow Shepard through an entire trilogy.
Are there things I've heard about ME:A that don't appeal to me? Yes. Prefer the old engine to what was used in DAI. Enjoyed paragon/renegade more than the DAI choices. Don't necessarily love open world. It leaves a lot of room to wander aimlessly. It's almost like faking "XX hours of gameplay" because you have to spend so much time walking around to find stuff.
Still, I like the premise of going out to explore an entirely new area far, far away from anything to do with the Reapers. It is like a fresh beginning for humanity & co.
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Post by jediguardian on Jan 6, 2017 8:11:37 GMT
Well, I expect MEA to be Tier2 But I like the description of Tier3 more
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Post by kumazan on Jan 6, 2017 11:12:15 GMT
Right now, with the very little we know, I'm expecting a Tier 2. It could change once we have more relevant info, surely upwards, because the only BW game that hasn't fallen in the top 2 tiers for me is DA 2, and it's still a game I have enjoyed multiple times.
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Post by tmjfin on Jan 6, 2017 12:03:28 GMT
I think it's going to be tier 2 for me, wish it won't fall lower. There are couple of things I really don't like judging from the info we have gotten, but I'll wait till I have played the game if this is the first time I don't like a game made by BioWare
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Post by General Aetius on Jan 6, 2017 12:28:29 GMT
I'm on the fence. It's Mass Effect, I'll certainly enjoy it. But is it gonna blow me away like the trilogy did? I'm not holding my breath either way.
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Post by Ahriman on Jan 6, 2017 12:39:35 GMT
I expect it to be good enough for me to finish it, with maybe a few pleasant surprises on the way. I.e. DAI tier until proven otherwise.
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