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Post by dragontartare on Feb 1, 2017 4:28:33 GMT
I'm also redoing Samara's loyalty mission since I had done it yesterday after Tali's, and I just noticed that Nef's mother cries red tears. Is this a glitch, or is she not actually human? I don't know if it's a glitch or just bad Omega lighting, but they are always red for me too. Makes her sorta creepy. Yeeeeah...kinda made me want to climb into a suit like Tali's to avoid catching whatever hemorrhagic disease she has. _______ Doing Thane's recruitment mission, and took a renegade interrupt since I'm evidently too far gone for most morality checks to work anymore. Shepard punched someone out a window. I expected a headbash or something. Garrus's determination? "Harsh, but he had it coming." I hope so, Garrus. I hope so. Grunt surprisingly had nothing to say, though he didn't appreciate my using a med kit on a dying Salarian earlier.
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Post by melbella on Feb 1, 2017 4:41:58 GMT
There are some renegade interrupts that are just too hard to pass up. Did you do the one during Grunt's loyalty mission? Or Mordin's? Even my uber-Paragons take those.
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Post by themikefest on Feb 1, 2017 4:46:12 GMT
Doing Thane's recruitment mission, and took a renegade interrupt since I'm evidently too far gone for most morality checks to work anymore. Shepard punched someone out a window. I expected a headbash or something. Garrus's determination? "Harsh, but he had it coming." I hope so, Garrus. I hope so. Grunt surprisingly had nothing to say, though he didn't appreciate my using a med kit on a dying Salarian earlier. Just curious. How much paragon and renegade do you have?
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Post by dragontartare on Feb 1, 2017 5:34:39 GMT
Thane seems really interesting. Creepy, but interesting. I'm not quite sure what to think of him yet. There are some renegade interrupts that are just too hard to pass up. Did you do the one during Grunt's loyalty mission? Or Mordin's? Even my uber-Paragons take those. I did during Mordin's That one was pretty awesome. I don't think I took the one for Grunt, though. Doing Thane's recruitment mission, and took a renegade interrupt since I'm evidently too far gone for most morality checks to work anymore. Shepard punched someone out a window. I expected a headbash or something. Garrus's determination? "Harsh, but he had it coming." I hope so, Garrus. I hope so. Grunt surprisingly had nothing to say, though he didn't appreciate my using a med kit on a dying Salarian earlier. Just curious. How much paragon and renegade do you have? I didn't go back to count the points, but the paragon meter is about 60% full (third bar is almost full), while the renegade meter has a little less than 1.5 bars full. I do have the 100% bonus for being a mechanic. I've gotten a few morality choices to show up, but just minor ones. All the major decisions lately are grayed out. It's ok...I know what to do now for next time.
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Post by themikefest on Feb 1, 2017 5:54:10 GMT
I didn't go back to count the points, but the paragon meter is about 60% full (third bar is almost full), while the renegade meter has a little less than 1.5 bars full. I do have the 100% bonus for being a mechanic. Safe guess is you want to play paragon? When doing Thane's loyalty mission, choose paragon Here it is. If for some reason you have the blue grayed out, don't worry. As I said in another post, during Legion's loyalty mission, the choice you make will give you a lot of renegade points. That's fine. It has to be done. Once Legion's loyalty mission is completed, I would suggest sticking with paragon for the rest of the game.
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Post by dmc1001 on Feb 1, 2017 7:24:23 GMT
I didn't go back to count the points, but the paragon meter is about 60% full (third bar is almost full), while the renegade meter has a little less than 1.5 bars full. I do have the 100% bonus for being a mechanic. Safe guess is you want to play paragon? When doing Thane's loyalty mission, choose paragon Here it is. If for some reason you have the blue grayed out, don't worry. As I said in another post, during Legion's loyalty mission, the choice you make will give you a lot of renegade points. That's fine. It has to be done. Once Legion's loyalty mission is completed, I would suggest sticking with paragon for the rest of the game.real Renegade when interrogating Talid is really the best. I understand you're trying to help her get a certain outcome but damn I love Renegade here. Also, Renegade on Thane's recruitment mission with the Eclipse merc is great.
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Post by themikefest on Feb 1, 2017 12:46:48 GMT
Renegade when interrogating Talid is really the best. I understand you're trying to help her get a certain outcome but damn I love Renegade here. Also, Renegade on Thane's recruitment mission with the Eclipse merc is great. I enjoy renegade as well. The majority of my playthroughs are renegade. One of the best interrupts in ME2 is right at the beginning of Miranda's loyalty mission that lets Shepard break the guys' neck. excellent
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I didn't go back to count the points, but the paragon meter is about 60% full (third bar is almost full), while the renegade meter has a little less than 1.5 bars full. I do have the 100% bonus for being a mechanic. Safe guess is you want to play paragon? When doing Thane's loyalty mission, choose paragon Here it is. If for some reason you have the blue grayed out, don't worry. As I said in another post, during Legion's loyalty mission, the choice you make will give you a lot of renegade points. That's fine. It has to be done. Once Legion's loyalty mission is completed, I would suggest sticking with paragon for the rest of the game. Would it matter which way the OP went on Legion's mission is, say, there is no intention to import the save into ME3? I'm saying this because, I think, the only ME game the OP owns right now is ME2 and it's sounding like the OP is interested in perhaps redoing a playthrough from the beginning so this one probably won't ever be imported into ME3.
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Post by dmc1001 on Feb 1, 2017 16:10:47 GMT
Renegade when interrogating Talid is really the best. I understand you're trying to help her get a certain outcome but damn I love Renegade here. Also, Renegade on Thane's recruitment mission with the Eclipse merc is great. I enjoy renegade as well. The majority of my playthroughs are renegade. One of the best interrupts in ME2 is right at the beginning of Miranda's loyalty mission that lets Shepard break the guys' neck. excellent Something to look forward to should I squeeze in one more trilogy playthrough.
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Post by themikefest on Feb 1, 2017 16:21:35 GMT
Would it matter which way the OP went on Legion's mission is, say, there is no intention to import the save into ME3? I'm saying this because, I think, the only ME game the OP owns right now is ME2 and it's sounding like the OP is interested in perhaps redoing a playthrough from the beginning so this one probably won't ever be imported into ME3. For now, I will continue to help, and if she chooses not to import this playthrough into ME3, that's her choice.
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Would it matter which way the OP went on Legion's mission is, say, there is no intention to import the save into ME3? I'm saying this because, I think, the only ME game the OP owns right now is ME2 and it's sounding like the OP is interested in perhaps redoing a playthrough from the beginning so this one probably won't ever be imported into ME3. For now, I will continue to help, and if she chooses not to import this playthrough into ME3, that's her choice. I think you're misunderstanding me... I was just wondering if, somehow, the paragon alternative in Legion's mission would trigger the argument even with Tali not being loyal. It still doesn't, right?
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Post by themikefest on Feb 1, 2017 16:28:07 GMT
I think you're misunderstanding me... I was just wondering if, somehow, the paragon alternative in Legion's mission would trigger the argument even with Tali not being loyal. It still doesn't, right? No. For that to happen both have to be loyal. Since the evidence was turned in, she will not be loyal, but not exiled.
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I think you're misunderstanding me... I was just wondering if, somehow, the paragon alternative in Legion's mission would trigger the argument even with Tali not being loyal. It still doesn't, right? No. For that to happen both have to be loyal. Since the evidence was turned in, she will not be loyal, but not exiled. Ok, thanks.
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Post by dragontartare on Feb 1, 2017 18:19:53 GMT
Safe guess is you want to play paragon? When doing Thane's loyalty mission, choose paragon Here it is. If for some reason you have the blue grayed out, don't worry. As I said in another post, during Legion's loyalty mission, the choice you make will give you a lot of renegade points. That's fine. It has to be done. Once Legion's loyalty mission is completed, I would suggest sticking with paragon for the rest of the game. Would it matter which way the OP went on Legion's mission is, say, there is no intention to import the save into ME3? I'm saying this because, I think, the only ME game the OP owns right now is ME2 and it's sounding like the OP is interested in perhaps redoing a playthrough from the beginning so this one probably won't ever be imported into ME3. I actually bought ME3 last week and will buy some of the DLCs before I start in the next couple of days. I do intend to import this playthrough so I appreciate all the advice I'm getting to help ME3 go better I can try for a "perfect" PT later, maybe with ME1 as well (though I haven't bought that one). I know I had said I don't like the combat, but the more abilities and weapons I get that make enemies go kaboom, the more I'm enjoying it Yesterday I fired the Cain at a group of geth and just set there stunned at the size of the explosion
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Post by dmc1001 on Feb 1, 2017 18:31:21 GMT
Would it matter which way the OP went on Legion's mission is, say, there is no intention to import the save into ME3? I'm saying this because, I think, the only ME game the OP owns right now is ME2 and it's sounding like the OP is interested in perhaps redoing a playthrough from the beginning so this one probably won't ever be imported into ME3. I actually bought ME3 last week and will buy some of the DLCs before I start in the next couple of days. I do intend to import this playthrough so I appreciate all the advice I'm getting to help ME3 go better I can try for a "perfect" PT later, maybe with ME1 as well (though I haven't bought that one). I know I had said I don't like the combat, but the more abilities and weapons I get that make enemies go kaboom, the more I'm enjoying it No first run is ever going to be perfect. That's kind of the point. However, I made great use of the old BSN forum early last year to get some great outcomes. I'm actually a little psyched to be going into MEA with no idea what to do - and no one else knowing, either. It'll help me make mistakes and learn from them in later playthroughs.
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Would it matter which way the OP went on Legion's mission is, say, there is no intention to import the save into ME3? I'm saying this because, I think, the only ME game the OP owns right now is ME2 and it's sounding like the OP is interested in perhaps redoing a playthrough from the beginning so this one probably won't ever be imported into ME3. I actually bought ME3 last week and will buy some of the DLCs before I start in the next couple of days. I do intend to import this playthrough so I appreciate all the advice I'm getting to help ME3 go better I can try for a "perfect" PT later, maybe with ME1 as well (though I haven't bought that one). I know I had said I don't like the combat, but the more abilities and weapons I get that make enemies go kaboom, the more I'm enjoying it Yesterday I fired the Cain at a group of geth and just set there stunned at the size of the explosion I apologize for the unfortunate wording of that particular post... as I explained, I was really just wondering if I was missing something... i.e. why themikefest was saying that particular mission "had to be done" in the renegade way. I wanted just to make sure of my understanding... that is, that the difference it would make was limited to ME3 and that it would not actually make any difference within ME2 (without spoiling anything about ME3 for you). I've never gone paragon myself on that quest with Tali already being disloyal... in short, I'm still learning lots of things from themikefest myself. I do recommend that you buy ME1 to shoot for a perfect playthrough. The 190-point paragon/renegade import bonus you get makes passing all the checks quite a bit easier. Bioware were justifiably criticized over how tight the checks in ME2 were... basically forcing players to lean heavily in one direction or the other just to get a reasonable outcome to the game. ... and BTW, yes, the CAIN RULES!!!! As Warlord O'Keer said... "nuclear fire... I like that one." (paraphrasing... I'll get the exact quote and come back... or maybe not since it's a line I don't think you can get unless you've played ME1).
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Post by themikefest on Feb 1, 2017 18:48:46 GMT
Yesterday I fired the Cain at a group of geth and just set there stunned at the size of the explosion excellent. I like the cain even though I only use it 3 times in my playthroughs. Two of those times are during the suicide mission. So that is something to look forward to.
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Post by dmc1001 on Feb 1, 2017 19:07:25 GMT
... and BTW, yes, the CAIN RULES!!!! It does. A favorite. Used it in ME2 on the IFF mission. Does wonders for ending the fight quickly.
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Post by dragontartare on Feb 2, 2017 5:09:23 GMT
Tonight I did Thane's loyalty mission (failed it but then reloaded, damn catwalks), a couple of side quests, and recovered the IFF. Those husks are really creepy, by the way.
All I have left to do is Legion's loyalty mission, and then I am ready for the suicide mission. Tali, Miranda, and Zaeed are unloyal at this point.
Although, I still haven't had the last romance scene with Garrus. I know Shepard needs to go to her cabin to trigger it. Will it be obvious when I need to go, or should I keep popping in there to check for the scene?
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Post by themikefest on Feb 2, 2017 5:50:59 GMT
Tonight I did Thane's loyalty mission (failed it but then reloaded, damn catwalks), a couple of side quests, and recovered the IFF. Those husks are really creepy, by the way. Good. The one thing that gives me a hard time on the IFF is those scions. For those I use the collector particle beam Good. Good. My evil plan is working nicely You're doing fine. When you get to the point to make the decision in the loyalty mission, choose to destroy the heretics. The romance scene will happen just before going through the Omega-4 relay.
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Tonight I did Thane's loyalty mission (failed it but then reloaded, damn catwalks), a couple of side quests, and recovered the IFF. Those husks are really creepy, by the way. All I have left to do is Legion's loyalty mission, and then I am ready for the suicide mission. Tali, Miranda, and Zaeed are unloyal at this point. Although, I still haven't had the last romance scene with Garrus. I know Shepard needs to go to her cabin to trigger it. Will it be obvious when I need to go, or should I keep popping in there to check for the scene? Don't sweat about the romance scene. When you select the Omega 4 relay from the galaxy map, the romance scene will trigger automatically.
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Post by dragontartare on Feb 2, 2017 17:17:15 GMT
Any advice on how to arrange people for the suicide mission? I may end up doing it tonight, depending what time I get home from work. The flow chart doesn't make much sense right now, but I think that's just because I don't know the structure of the mission. (Yes, I understand how to read flow charts in general ) If it will make more sense as I go, then I can just keep it open on my tablet or something.
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Any advice on how to arrange people for the suicide mission? I may end up doing it tonight, depending what time I get home from work. The flow chart doesn't make much sense right now, but I think that's just because I don't know the structure of the mission. (Yes, I understand how to read flow charts in general ) If it will make more sense as I go, then I can just keep it open on my tablet or something. I'm sure that's part of what themikefest's plan has been all along... to help you pick the "right" people in those positions to ensure that everyone gets out alive. It's what he does... and he's absolutely the best on here at it... so I'll just keep lurking and let him steer you home.
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Post by themikefest on Feb 2, 2017 17:36:58 GMT
Any advice on how to arrange people for the suicide mission? I may end up doing it tonight, depending what time I get home from work. The flow chart doesn't make much sense right now, but I think that's just because I don't know the structure of the mission. (Yes, I understand how to read flow charts in general ) If it will make more sense as I go, then I can just keep it open on my tablet or something. Here you go bsn.boards.net/post/255823/threadWhy did I post in that thread? 1) Its a thread devoted to the suicide mission 2) There might be other folks who would be curious how to have everyone survive with the same conditions you have, but not look in this thread..
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Post by themikefest on Feb 4, 2017 1:34:56 GMT
dragontartareSince you've completed the suicide mission, I'm guessing you will finish any dlc/side missions that wasn't completed? Here's a helpful tip. Before importing your character to ME3, I would suggest having all minerals above 100 000. Eezo above 50 000. You don't have to, but every little bit helps. I will explain when you start ME3 Oh yeah. Are you going to create a new thread for your ME3 playthrough?
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