The Tempest thread (confirmed 100% weaponry free)

Ahem, there is no weight in space, but mass is always there.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inertia

I don't know how much the actual weapon weights, but the Thanix uses a molten heavy metal alloy as ammo, so the weight of the whole installation must be considerable.

So much this.

The Tempest is the ONLY ship to be confirmed to have no weaponry, no-one on this forum (except the cheeky devs looking at this right now, I feel your eyes!!) know what contingent of stowed away ships there is, what arms they carry and how many of them there are. People are still saying that there are definitely no space battles (how would you know this going off of one ships lack of guns?) confirmed by BioWare (show me the tweet/post/instagram selfie)...there simply isn't enough information to go on to make that call: it's a definite unknown right now.

There could be a squadron of Alliance built fighters tucked into the Hyperion, there could be massive canons all over The Nexus and it could be that for some fucking weird space magic unknown reason we went full pacifist on it, and headed into the black holding our tender AI junk and not much else.

I guess we'll find out soon, I'm hoping our junk isn't our main firing solution   

Which post was that?  I don't remember placing a different armament wager? (unless it was a drunk post in the weekend...lol).

You do realise I'm playfully throwing down a bet, with a fictitious prediction of what I personally think will be the armaments of the AI fleet.

As in, I don't know this obviously, I'm just guessing here.....aka, all in good fun.  Like a said a couple posts ago, none of us know what is hiding in the secretive pockets of the fleet.....all we can do is wait and see for confirmation, but in the meantime: a friendly bet is always good, no?

While we wait for more news, we may as well try and swindle each others credit chits my friend

I'm not the one grasping at straws here...and, from what I've seen, there is absolutely no stopping the fans here from instantly grasping at all the negative straws whenever Bioware releases any small tidbit... tidbits so small that no one has any right guessing at the entire plot of the game based on them... let alone as coming across as there not being any possible reason for such a device to be used by Bioware within this, as yet completely unknown, plot... and then using their own speculation to prejudge the entire game as being terrible.  At the very minimum, it is presumptuous.

My point about Shakespeare's The Tempest is that he flipped the ending and the beginning around... it was an effective plot device at the time partly just because it was something that his audience was totally not expecting... something they didn't hammer into the ground 2 whole months before the opening.

... and it may even turn out that it's a great story about hippy cults.

I'm just gonna put his here:

The Tempest ship replica:
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www.tfaw.com/Merchandise/Profile/Mass-Effect%3A-Tempest-Ship-Replica___531549

Hey, some of us have winglets still..... #notcut #fullskinjacket

I beg to differ: I find difficult to believe that the problem could lay with the internal layout. If needed, a portion of a bulkhead can always be cut, or it is always possible to find a way around it, if the aim is to fit a new conduit: maybe it’s not a beauty to be seen, nor very “safe” (ME2 core anyone?) but I think rerouting power to feed an additional weapon system should be important enough, especially on a mission like the AI.
Which brings me right on the point I’ll try to make: what if the Tempest, and in particular its stealth system, has been built by default to have as less exhausted energy emissions as possible? I’m making some logics leaps here, but:
1) IF the Tempest has an always-on kind of stealth, it is believable the rules of Normandy IES (Internal Emission Sink) do not apply. So, while the Normandy (in both her incarnations) was a ship with energy surplus to be managed (and the Thanix installation proves it), the Tempest is less so. This could be both the reasons why the Tempest can stay always hidden and why we don’t have an integrated weapon array: basically the stealth system of the Tempest would work like a camo, internalizing an dispersing already negligible emissions, instead of an active system with a limited capacity (plus of course radiation absorbing hulls, to remain hidden to ladar/radar).
2) So the Tempest doesn’t have the power output to fit a kinetic cannon: ok, let’s say it is so (big assumption here, but I could go behind it if 1 is true), and they built a prototype ship with the focus of being as stealthy as possible, just to discover later that power management just didn’t cut for a proper weapon system (the transition alone of uranium to plasma is a fucking big drain if you use electrons injection as a mean to obtain it). Unfortunately the AI is rushed to completion, and the prototype (or more than one, considering we have 4 pathfinders) stay, because there isn’t time to go back to the development phase.
3) EVEN SO, and 1 & 2 are confirmed, there is no rationale as for why the Tempest should not be equipped in Andromeda with anti-missiles countermeasures (not electronic devices or GARDIAN, just plain old ejecting chaff and baits) and it should be impossible to strap some torpedoes tubes (like both the Normandy had) on the hulls, maybe on the flank, where the Tempest has enough space.
You wouldn’t even need to cut anything: just some mag clamps and a soldering iron to attach the torpedoes cradles. Even more simple and effective than any previous solutions, now that I think about it.

The NOMAD situation is instead just plain silly and unjustifiable: I will attach a self-feeding coaxial retractile 155mm on the roof of that six wheeled coffin should be the last thing I do. Or some rocket launchers with their proper tubes. Or a cannon (bitches love cannons!). And an optic stealth system. And proper armor and kinetic barriers.
And a 5.1 subwoofer to listen to speed metal while I chart the unknown.