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Post by Nightlife on Jan 27, 2017 2:02:01 GMT
What if a tangential reason for the Andromeda Initiative's exploration mission was to save some of humanity in an Ark IN CASE the Reapers did wipe out all of the galaxy. If the mission launched after ME1, TIM would hear murmurings about this Reaper threat I'm sure. And if Cora is TIM's relative - TIM may have been involved in launching this mission (and putting her on it.)
Would be quite a story connection! Thoughts?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2017 2:03:05 GMT
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Post by colfoley on Jan 27, 2017 2:08:48 GMT
I am really sniffing Cerberus connections the more that is revealed about the game. Some of the stuff the AI has access to has Cerberus written all over it. However, the issue is how deep is the connection, and what were TIMs motives for being a part of it? I think its safe to say he did some funding/ tech stuff for the AI but really wasn't involved beyond that.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 27, 2017 2:12:15 GMT
I'd imagine Cerberus played a part here but I don't think they'll factor in as a motivation for events in Andromeda. I mean, even if someone did work for Cerberus they'd have to know that TIM would be long dead and any allegiance to him is pointless.
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Post by Nightlife on Jan 27, 2017 2:15:55 GMT
I'd imagine Cerberus played a part here but I don't think they'll factor in as a motivation for events in Andromeda. I mean, even if someone did work for Cerberus they'd have to know that TIM would be long dead and any allegiance to him is pointless. What I meant was, if TIM was all about preserving Humanity and keeping us on top, if he sensed a possibility that we could all be wiped out, he may have helped fund or in some way been a part of the A:I - with the goal of continuing Humanity elsewhere. And with Cora's last name - I sense more of a connection now. Could be an interesting turn later in the story.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 27, 2017 2:24:28 GMT
Nightlife: Agreed. TIM has known about the Reapers as long as Shepard. I think some books or comics (haven't read them) say he was aware of them even longer ago than the beginning of ME1. So, yes, I could imagine him financially backing the AI and sending his daughter off to safety. It's interesting that Alex Ryder was among the first people to go through the Charon Relay. Really gives a sense of him being a life long explorer who will take risks to discover the unknown.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 27, 2017 2:30:18 GMT
Didn't Bioware answer that Cerberus was not involved with the AI project in any capacity?
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Post by BamBam the Destroyer on Jan 27, 2017 3:01:30 GMT
Didn't Bioware answer that Cerberus was not involved with the AI project in any capacity? It is far from unheard of for writers/devs to bs to cover for spoilers
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 27, 2017 3:03:11 GMT
Didn't Bioware answer that Cerberus was not involved with the AI project in any capacity? It is far from unheard of for writers/devs to bs to cover for spoilers True, but that was answered on Twitter. If that was a spoiler, why not just not answer that question like they do thousands of others?
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Post by ProbeAway on Jan 27, 2017 3:13:45 GMT
I'd imagine Cerberus played a part here but I don't think they'll factor in as a motivation for events in Andromeda. I mean, even if someone did work for Cerberus they'd have to know that TIM would be long dead and any allegiance to him is pointless. What I meant was, if TIM was all about preserving Humanity and keeping us on top, if he sensed a possibility that we could all be wiped out, he may have helped fund or in some way been a part of the A:I - with the goal of continuing Humanity elsewhere. And with Cora's last name - I sense more of a connection now. Could be an interesting turn later in the story. 'Cora' could be derived from 'Core' as well, as in Eva Core. If they are related I seriously hope she is nothing like him. I don't want another space racist for a squadmate/LI. She worked with Asari commandos so that's a good sign.
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Post by themikefest on Jan 27, 2017 3:22:38 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised if Cerberus helped in funding the project. I wouldn't be surprised if a few Cerberus employees helped with the project and went to Andromeda.
I would like my Ryder do wear Cerberus armor
Humanity #1. excellent
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Jan 27, 2017 3:24:48 GMT
Why the fuck would TIM let his DAUGHTER leave a war torn galaxy only to go to another dangerous set of uncharted hostile planets on weaponless ships and unarmed rovers?
No really can you imagine his face upon hearing that shit??
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Jan 27, 2017 3:25:30 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised if Cerberus helped in funding the project. I wouldn't be surprised if a few Cerberus employees helped with the project and went to Andromeda. I would like my Ryder do wear Cerberus armor Humanity #1. excellent I want that slayer armor...I had already chosen to be a versatile melee vanguard.
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Post by Pearl on Jan 27, 2017 3:33:30 GMT
It is far from unheard of for writers/devs to bs to cover for spoilers True, but that was answered on Twitter. If that was a spoiler, why not just not answer that question like they do thousands of others? Because any answer other than "No" would be perceived as "Yes", and that would be bad for business.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 27, 2017 3:35:51 GMT
True, but that was answered on Twitter. If that was a spoiler, why not just not answer that question like they do thousands of others? Because any answer other than "No" would be perceived as "Yes", and that would be bad for business. I mean just ignore the question. They do that all the time, yet that doesn't mean all those things being asked about have yes as the answer.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Jan 27, 2017 3:37:16 GMT
He probably felt the desire to leave the galaxy, the home to Earth and humanity, was abandoning everything he stood for and thus wasn't interested in the Andromeda project for his own goals. There's a reason he drinks Bourbon and smokes a ton of cigarettes. He keeps old tradition amidst being in an alien, future world.
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Post by Vortex13 on Jan 27, 2017 3:48:55 GMT
I'll just say that if freaking Cerberus rears it's maligned heads in Andromeda, despite BioWare's claims of wanting to avoid the "baggage of the previous trilogy", then they damn well better be bringing over all the other Milky Way aliens to the new galaxy as well.
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Post by Nightlife on Jan 27, 2017 4:47:25 GMT
To have SOME connection to previous games is fine, imo. I don't mean the Reaper threat repeated, but, references to or moles from Cerberus wouldn't be too far fetched. And it's probable. But, they are gonna be without their powerbase and have to start anew. And mainly gimped. Of course they infiltrated some of the thousands of humans on board Hyperion.
I'm sure that there's more to "straight up exploration and colonization" than AI's mission - and that's a good thing. TIM mostly proved to be smarter than everyone else, so he could have a small hand in this from beyond the grave - could just be a minor plot point but I think nice.
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Post by Duke Cameron on Jan 27, 2017 5:34:17 GMT
I sure hope not!
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Post by MrR40 on Jan 27, 2017 6:53:25 GMT
Correct me if I am wrong but the name of the Ryder siblings' mother was Jana, in ME3 during the attack on Cronos Station you come across vid logs where TIM is talking to a scientist and calls her by her name ( Jana ).
So Cora might be related to TIM/Cerberus and the mother of Ryder family might have been a Cerberus scientist.
I have already come to terms with Cerberus possibly being in ME:A, but I hope the organisation isn't tied to the main story line ( very unlikely ). Side and/or squadmate missions seem more plausible.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2017 8:02:15 GMT
I hope not, but probably.
Cora's surname being Harper, and her first name resembling the surname of the Illusive Man's former lover (Core), probably isn't a coincidence.
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Post by The Elder King on Jan 27, 2017 8:11:32 GMT
Correct me if I am wrong but the name of the Ryder siblings' mother was Jana, in ME3 during the attack on Cronos Station you come across vid logs where TIM is talking to a scientist and calls her by her name ( Jana ). So Cora might be related to TIM/Cerberus and the mother of Ryder family might have been a Cerberus scientist. I have already come to terms with Cerberus possibly being in ME:A, but I hope the organisation isn't tied to the main story line ( very unlikely ). Side and/or squadmate missions seem more plausible. We don't know her name yet, although the briefing mentioned Ellen Ryder. I hope not, but probably. Cora's surname being Harper, and her first name resembling the surname of the Illusive Man's former lover (Core), probably isn't a coincidence. The combinations in her full name makes me think it can be just a funny reference, because they made it too obvious. But they might have done it to make it feel too obvious to be true. I don't see the problem if she's his daughter. She's old enough to make her own decisions. Although I can understand the concern of people about Cerberus having a role in ME again.
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Post by kumazan on Jan 27, 2017 8:42:51 GMT
I hope not, but probably. Cora's surname being Harper, and her first name resembling the surname of the Illusive Man's former lover (Core), probably isn't a coincidence. This, sadly. I certainly didn't want Cerberus in ME:A (I'd rather have the Reapers again, even with Starbrat), but I'll go in with an open mind. *SIGH* As open as the airlock I'll use to get rid of Cora if this is true.
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Post by The Elder King on Jan 27, 2017 8:44:32 GMT
I hope not, but probably. Cora's surname being Harper, and her first name resembling the surname of the Illusive Man's former lover (Core), probably isn't a coincidence. This, sadly. I certainly didn't want Cerberus in ME:A (I'd rather have the Reapers again, even with Starbrat), but I'll go in with an open mind. *SIGH* As open as the airlock I'll use to get rid of Cora if this is true. Just because she's his daughter? Without knowing her opinions? I doubt she can be thrown out in any case, given her role.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2017 8:48:57 GMT
Assuming for a moment that she is TIM's daughter, she might be going to Andromeda to get away from him & Cerberus. Bioware does love daddy issues, after all.
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