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Post by Nightlife on Jan 27, 2017 22:42:04 GMT
I honestly think that Cora's last name is a red herring. My main point was that if thousands of humans were sent off in this Ark sometime after ME2 starts, of course TIM would know about it and of course some of those thousands could be Cerberus sympathizers, if not agents. Ryder, and his/her team, could just wipe them out before they get anywhere, as their numbers will be small.
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Post by The Elder King on Jan 27, 2017 22:42:57 GMT
I hope not. Please, not Cerberus again. As for the names, it's Bioware creativity: Feros Feron Fehl Prime Jack Harper Eva Core Cora Harper Yes, but the former aren't exactly connected to each other. As I said though, it seems a bit like an exaggeration of obviousness that might lead into nothing. Cora being TIM's daughter doesn't mean though Cerberus will have a role in the game.
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Post by traks on Jan 27, 2017 22:45:35 GMT
I honestly think that Cora's last name is a red herring. My main point was that if thousands of humans were sent off in this Ark sometime after ME2 starts, of course TIM would know about it and of course some of those thousands could be Cerberus sympathizers, if not agents. Ryder, and his/her team, could just wipe them out before they get anywhere, as their numbers will be small. The question though is "what would Cerberus want in Andromeda"? We don't even know what we want there and that exploration mission doesn't seem like anything a guy who wants to see immediate results in his racist vision of human supremacy would be interested in.
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Post by commandercryptarch on Jan 27, 2017 22:49:47 GMT
Upon a possible relation between Cora and TIM and probably a Cerberus involvement,I think most of you are getting a bit too worried about it. I mean, what if she is his daughter but she never knew the man that well? Maybe he disappeared from her life when she was an infant. TIM being her father does not automatically mean a Cerberus connection (Cora being aa double agent) or mean that she is running away from him. I could easily see this conversation going on: Cora: What's wrong Scott? Scott: Nothing...Just worried about my dad,you know me. Did that ever happen to you,you know, before we left? To be honest you 've never really talked about your family at all. You miss them? Cora: I never really knew my father because he was never a part of my life. My mom always avoided to talk about him . She said he was a complicated man, ambitious yet so distant.Almost ...elusive. Scott: Did you ever try to seek him out? Cora: No and I regret it.
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Post by Nightlife on Jan 27, 2017 22:50:01 GMT
I honestly think that Cora's last name is a red herring. My main point was that if thousands of humans were sent off in this Ark sometime after ME2 starts, of course TIM would know about it and of course some of those thousands could be Cerberus sympathizers, if not agents. Ryder, and his/her team, could just wipe them out before they get anywhere, as their numbers will be small. The question though is "what would Cerberus want in Andromeda"? We don't even know what we want there and that exploration mission doesn't seem like anything a guy who wants to see immediate results in his racist vision of human supremacy would be interested in. To continue humanity's domination elsewhere? TIM had his hand in so many things, it would be odd for him not to have his hand in this too. To reiterate, I think it would be cool to have a mission or two, or something, involving Cerberus that Ryder has to deal with. It's a way to connect the ME Universe. Not sure why people are so against this idea. Cerberus isn't the focus, but, it's more like an echo from the trilogy.
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Post by brunobyof on Jan 27, 2017 23:08:34 GMT
The first book to be released this year is called NEXUS Uprising which could imply there is some kind of rebels of some sort, which COULD mean cerberus. And that guy with the facial tatoo in the old leak, who is being held by the Krogan, he must be part of these "rebels". What if When they Initiative wake up and start operations in andromeda, these "cerberus agents" starts this rebellions, probably aided by Jien garson herself, by simply "looking to the other side" while some serious stuff happens?
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Post by traks on Jan 27, 2017 23:10:16 GMT
I don't need (and expect) a Cerberus connection because I want MEA to be about exploring a new galaxy, having first contact with new alien races, running into hostile races, friendly races - to sum up: I want wonder and excitement.
Infighting among Initiative members? That doesn't sound exciting to me. I am already a bit pissed, that we are late to the party and there are already former members running wild. You want to add Cerberus on top of that? Nah...
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Post by The Elder King on Jan 27, 2017 23:14:57 GMT
The first book to be released this year is called NEXUS Uprising which could imply there is some kind of rebels of some sort, which COULD mean cerberus. And that guy with the facial tatoo in the old leak, who is being held by the Krogan, he must be part of these "rebels". What if When they Initiative wake up and start operations in andromeda, these "cerberus agents" starts this rebellions, probably aided by Jien garson herself, by simply "looking to the other side" while some serious stuff happens? I think the uprising is more likely related to the factions in Kadara and possibly other planets, and they're clearly not Cerberus.
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Post by brunobyof on Jan 27, 2017 23:38:34 GMT
The first book to be released this year is called NEXUS Uprising which could imply there is some kind of rebels of some sort, which COULD mean cerberus. And that guy with the facial tatoo in the old leak, who is being held by the Krogan, he must be part of these "rebels". What if When they Initiative wake up and start operations in andromeda, these "cerberus agents" starts this rebellions, probably aided by Jien garson herself, by simply "looking to the other side" while some serious stuff happens? I think the uprising is more likely related to the factions in Kadara and possibly other planets, and they're clearly not Cerberus. oh, i think i'm not following you here, where is kadara? its the planet we see Sara arriving with Vetra and Drack?
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Post by The Elder King on Jan 27, 2017 23:39:32 GMT
I think the uprising is more likely related to the factions in Kadara and possibly other planets, and they're clearly not Cerberus. oh, i think i'm not following you here, where is kadara? its the planet we see Sara arriving with Vetra and Drack? Yep. There are two factions composed of people that left or were forced to leave the Nexus.
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Post by brunobyof on Jan 27, 2017 23:52:24 GMT
oh, i think i'm not following you here, where is kadara? its the planet we see Sara arriving with Vetra and Drack? Yep. There are two factions composed of people that left or were forced to leave the Nexus. ahh makes sense, so the uprising is obviously about that. However, this doenst exclude what i have said. Cerberus MAY be behind the events which lead to people leaving the nexus
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Post by The Elder King on Jan 27, 2017 23:56:39 GMT
Cerberus can definitely be in Andromeda if Bioware wished to. I don't think it's far fetched. I just don't think there's the need to rehash old plots, over and over. It's the same reason I want the krogan plot/Drack's loyalty quest to not revolve around the genophage, but just securing their future, in another way, in Andromeda.
As I said in Cora's thread, if Cerberus turns out to be in the game I'll at least enjoy the shitstorm that will spread on the internet.
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Post by extremegamer on Jan 27, 2017 23:58:16 GMT
What if a tangential reason for the Andromeda Initiative's exploration mission was to save some of humanity in an Ark IN CASE the Reapers did wipe out all of the galaxy. If the mission launched after ME1, TIM would hear murmurings about this Reaper threat I'm sure. And if Cora is TIM's relative - TIM may have been involved in launching this mission (and putting her on it.) Would be quite a story connection! Thoughts? so what the old trilogy is dead
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Post by armass81 on Jan 28, 2017 0:03:36 GMT
The question though is "what would Cerberus want in Andromeda"? We don't even know what we want there and that exploration mission doesn't seem like anything a guy who wants to see immediate results in his racist vision of human supremacy would be interested in. To continue humanity's domination elsewhere? TIM had his hand in so many things, it would be odd for him not to have his hand in this too. To reiterate, I think it would be cool to have a mission or two, or something, involving Cerberus that Ryder has to deal with. It's a way to connect the ME Universe. Not sure why people are so against this idea. Cerberus isn't the focus, but, it's more like an echo from the trilogy. An echo we dont need. Hopefully they are done with cerberus, i had my fill of them in the tirlogy. Please, no more.
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Post by extremegamer on Jan 28, 2017 0:13:45 GMT
Didn't Bioware answer that Cerberus was not involved with the AI project in any capacity? It is far from unheard of for writers/devs to bs to cover for spoilers so what if they are you and others want this to be connected to crap fest called the first 3 games poor babies do you need a hanky to wipe the tears of shepard being dead and go9ne off ohy wait you all can not move on
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 0:59:08 GMT
I hope not. Please, not Cerberus again. As for the names, it's Bioware creativity: Feros Feron Fehl Prime Jack Harper Eva Core Cora Harper Yes, but the former aren't exactly connected to each other. As I said though, it seems a bit like an exaggeration of obviousness that might lead into nothing. Cora being TIM's daughter doesn't mean though Cerberus will have a role in the game. The names, I mentioned. I'm not arguing the relation they might have to characters. But since it's about TIM and Andromeda, I'm aware he won't have any relation with the Initiative. But I still wouldn't want Cora related to him. And that's only my opinion.
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Post by Nashimura on Jan 28, 2017 5:32:38 GMT
I really hope not... your mileage may vary, but Cerberus already ruined 1, maybe 2 games.
I don't think they will be in it, as said... they denied it, but i also think they realized they went to far with it in 3... i fully expect Cora to be just his daughter, someone who has had little contact with him over the years, first time i find myself wanting lots of unresolved daddy issues in a Bioware game, but only because it would be better than Cerberus having any kind of major impact in this story.
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Post by Nightlife on Jan 28, 2017 7:29:54 GMT
I still don't see what a big problem it would be to have them, or maybe just Cerberus sympathizers, say something to you on a mission. I think it would be a nice connection to the trilogy. that's all. no biggie. no TIM back. no major agenda. maybe just a convo about it... COOL.
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Post by bloodmagereaver on Jan 28, 2017 9:03:37 GMT
Well...
TIM said that Cerberus is not just an organization, it's an ideal which could outlast himself as long as humanity existed. The potential to retcon Cerberus into the new game was always there to begin with.
I see no problem with Cerberus infiltrating a few agents or sympathizers into the Andromeda Initiative so long as their goals don't overtake the entire plot like they did in ME2 and ME3.
In my opinion, those Cerberus agents or sympathizers will likely start their own organization in Andromeda rather than keeping ties with TIM. Regardless of Cerberus ties, chances are very high that we will have to deal with a human supremacist faction in one way or another because our species just loves to boast itself on top of others.
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Post by Sondergaard on Jan 28, 2017 9:24:22 GMT
I still don't see what a big problem it would be to have them, or maybe just Cerberus sympathizers, say something to you on a mission. I think it would be a nice connection to the trilogy. that's all. no biggie. no TIM back. no major agenda. maybe just a convo about it... COOL. Because lots of people think the obsession that BioWare has about Cerberus being behind EVERYTHING should be left behind. Want a throwback to the ME trilogy? Have Maeko Matsuo turn up as a background character with a few lines. Or Emily Wong's sister. In fact, anybody that avoids another fucking Cerberus tie-in.
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Post by midnightwolf on Jan 28, 2017 9:39:30 GMT
Well... TIM said that Cerberus is not just an organization, it's an ideal which could outlast himself as long as humanity existed. The potential to retcon Cerberus into the new game was always there to begin with. I see no problem with Cerberus infiltrating a few agents or sympathizers into the Andromeda Initiative so long as their goals don't overtake the entire plot like they did in ME2 and ME3.In my opinion, those Cerberus agents or sympathizers will likely start their own organization in Andromeda rather than keeping ties with TIM. Regardless of Cerberus ties, chances are very high that we will have to deal with a human supremacist faction in one way or another because our species just loves to boast itself on top of others. That's the thing though isn't it......There's no new direction that, that faction can take because they're all about Human dominance. So having them in ME:A will end up overshadowing everything else. On the brightside, this thread is total speculation. Because if it wasn't, I'd likely cancel my pre-order and wait for reviews, I'm so tired of Cerberus.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 28, 2017 9:43:32 GMT
I still don't see what a big problem it would be to have them, or maybe just Cerberus sympathizers, say something to you on a mission. I think it would be a nice connection to the trilogy. that's all. no biggie. no TIM back. no major agenda. maybe just a convo about it... COOL. Because lots of people think the obsession that BioWare has about Cerberus being behind EVERYTHING should be left behind. Want a throwback to the ME trilogy? Have Maeko Matsuo turn up as a background character with a few lines. Or Emily Wong's sister. In fact, anybody that avoids another fucking Cerberus tie-in. Maeko Matsuo for LI!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 10:08:02 GMT
I really hope not... your mileage may vary, but Cerberus already ruined 1, maybe 2 games. I don't think they will be in it, as said... they denied it, but i also think they realized they went to far with it in 3... I also think that it would've been nicer if they remained being a bunch of wackos in some remote outpost. The power & reach they had in ME3 was ridiculous.
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Post by Fogg on Jan 28, 2017 11:01:38 GMT
Why would TIM invite a lot of alien species? It would make sense if Cerberus would send a couple of agents along on the trip. But like Han Shot First said, if Cora is related she probably just wanted to get away.
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Post by spacebeetle on Jan 28, 2017 14:09:56 GMT
Plot twist:
Alec Ryder is the Cerberus agent sent to Andromeda to promote a humanity first agenda, and protect TIM daughter at the same time. Bonus point if we can kill him.
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