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Post by obbie1984 on Oct 21, 2017 22:33:08 GMT
Wow so much dislike towards Liara...I love it Good job BSN Liara was my least favorite because I found her creeping/crushing on Shep annoying! I told her I'm not interested in her yet she was still trying to get into my panties throughout the Trilogy. Sorry Liara, but no means NO! Plus she was your stereotypical Hollywood girl-next-door romance. Pretty boring imo And I Can't really pick a second character lol I also hated how that's the only constant with Liara. I really found her to be quite shallow. (Why can't I romance Shiala goddammit!) This so much. I actually find she is one of the characters that gets WORSE as the series progresses. Her voice actor gets worse somehow. She tries to come off as badass or cold with that lame husky voice, but it feels so contrived instead. Her keeping your armor in Shadow Broker DLC when you yell at her for invading your privacy is even creepier. Its made more creepy if you romanced Kaidan or Ashley too. She doesn't really tell anyone about the Collector threat or about Shepard in ME2. Her being the sole person to care enough to retrieve Shepard is also dumb. I'll never romance her but I watched it on YT and it also lacks the emotion Tali, Jack, and Ashley have as well. Especially with that aforementioned husky delivery. In ME3, she conveniently plays the important parts alone regarding the Crucible. No one on the crew is as smart or has the resources she has of course. Her being the one to come to Shepard's cabin to be his emotional support regardless of romance or not is also lame. But the thing that secured Liara into my Pantheon of Hatred is when you take her to Thessia in ME3. She becomes downright obnoxious on that mission. I really want to just leave her there when she said "maybe the next time we go to war, the Alliance can spring for air support." That line comes off just so... wrong. I really hate how Bioware shoves this character down your throat. And sadly, the one asari I actually like in a Bioware game (Lexi) cannot be romanced.
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Post by Guts on Oct 22, 2017 10:45:45 GMT
I also hated how that's the only constant with Liara. I really found her to be quite shallow. (Why can't I romance Shiala goddammit!) This so much. I actually find she is one of the characters that gets WORSE as the series progresses. Her voice actor gets worse somehow. She tries to come off as badass or cold with that lame husky voice, but it feels so contrived instead. Her keeping your armor in Shadow Broker DLC when you yell at her for invading your privacy is even creepier. Its made more creepy if you romanced Kaidan or Ashley too. She doesn't really tell anyone about the Collector threat or about Shepard in ME2. Her being the sole person to care enough to retrieve Shepard is also dumb. I'll never romance her but I watched it on YT and it also lacks the emotion Tali, Jack, and Ashley have as well. Especially with that aforementioned husky delivery. In ME3, she conveniently plays the important parts alone regarding the Crucible. No one on the crew is as smart or has the resources she has of course. Her being the one to come to Shepard's cabin to be his emotional support regardless of romance or not is also lame. But the thing that secured Liara into my Pantheon of Hatred is when you take her to Thessia in ME3. She becomes downright obnoxious on that mission. I really want to just leave her there when she said "maybe the next time we go to war, the Alliance can spring for air support." That line comes off just so... wrong. I really hate how Bioware shoves this character down your throat. And sadly, the one asari I actually like in a Bioware game (Lexi) cannot be romanced. I personally considered Peebee to be a better character than Liara. Predictable in terms of her character arc? Maybe, but it was at least solid. I was also disappointed that you couldn't romance Lexi.
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Post by Guts on Oct 22, 2017 11:02:11 GMT
I also hated how that's the only constant with Liara. I really found her to be quite shallow. (Why can't I romance Shiala goddammit!) This so much. I actually find she is one of the characters that gets WORSE as the series progresses. Her voice actor gets worse somehow. She tries to come off as badass or cold with that lame husky voice, but it feels so contrived instead. Her keeping your armor in Shadow Broker DLC when you yell at her for invading your privacy is even creepier. Its made more creepy if you romanced Kaidan or Ashley too. She doesn't really tell anyone about the Collector threat or about Shepard in ME2. Her being the sole person to care enough to retrieve Shepard is also dumb. I'll never romance her but I watched it on YT and it also lacks the emotion Tali, Jack, and Ashley have as well. Especially with that aforementioned husky delivery. In ME3, she conveniently plays the important parts alone regarding the Crucible. No one on the crew is as smart or has the resources she has of course. Her being the one to come to Shepard's cabin to be his emotional support regardless of romance or not is also lame. But the thing that secured Liara into my Pantheon of Hatred is when you take her to Thessia in ME3. She becomes downright obnoxious on that mission. I really want to just leave her there when she said "maybe the next time we go to war, the Alliance can spring for air support." That line comes off just so... wrong. I really hate how Bioware shoves this character down your throat. And sadly, the one asari I actually like in a Bioware game (Lexi) cannot be romanced. Also to add to the post I made slightly before this one. I get irritated when people say that Liara was "complex" as a character. Walter White is a complex character. Liara is an inconsistent character which isn't the same as complex.
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Post by boxofscreaming on Oct 22, 2017 20:29:26 GMT
I also hated how that's the only constant with Liara. I really found her to be quite shallow. (Why can't I romance Shiala goddammit!) This so much. I actually find she is one of the characters that gets WORSE as the series progresses. Her voice actor gets worse somehow. She tries to come off as badass or cold with that lame husky voice, but it feels so contrived instead. Her keeping your armor in Shadow Broker DLC when you yell at her for invading your privacy is even creepier. Its made more creepy if you romanced Kaidan or Ashley too. She doesn't really tell anyone about the Collector threat or about Shepard in ME2. Her being the sole person to care enough to retrieve Shepard is also dumb. I'll never romance her but I watched it on YT and it also lacks the emotion Tali, Jack, and Ashley have as well. Especially with that aforementioned husky delivery. In ME3, she conveniently plays the important parts alone regarding the Crucible. No one on the crew is as smart or has the resources she has of course. Her being the one to come to Shepard's cabin to be his emotional support regardless of romance or not is also lame. But the thing that secured Liara into my Pantheon of Hatred is when you take her to Thessia in ME3. She becomes downright obnoxious on that mission. I really want to just leave her there when she said "maybe the next time we go to war, the Alliance can spring for air support." That line comes off just so... wrong. I really hate how Bioware shoves this character down your throat. And sadly, the one asari I actually like in a Bioware game (Lexi) cannot be romanced. I think it's fair enough for Kaidan/Ashley not to find Shepard. I doubt they had the resources or opportunity (How Liara did, I don't know). It took the Alliance a couple of years just to find the Normandy crash site. What I find strange is that Liara didn't tell a romanced Kaidan/Ashley or Spacer Shepard's parents what she'd done. I would think they would have a right to know. I do actually like Liara, overall and I think she gets some nice scenes , but yeah, some things about her story maybe weren't done all that well. It kind of seemed like they rowed back from her ME2 character development in ME3. Sure, she's officially the Shadow Broker, but she barely bothers keeping it a secret (mentioned it in front of James, who she'd just met) and I think I probably got more intel from Traynor than I got from her. Might have been interesting if she'd really ended up as a cynical anti-hero, as a certain character can in the Dragon Age series. Makes a great partner in crime for a biotic Shepard in combat though.
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Post by obbie1984 on Oct 24, 2017 5:58:05 GMT
This so much. I actually find she is one of the characters that gets WORSE as the series progresses. Her voice actor gets worse somehow. She tries to come off as badass or cold with that lame husky voice, but it feels so contrived instead. Her keeping your armor in Shadow Broker DLC when you yell at her for invading your privacy is even creepier. Its made more creepy if you romanced Kaidan or Ashley too. She doesn't really tell anyone about the Collector threat or about Shepard in ME2. Her being the sole person to care enough to retrieve Shepard is also dumb. I'll never romance her but I watched it on YT and it also lacks the emotion Tali, Jack, and Ashley have as well. Especially with that aforementioned husky delivery. In ME3, she conveniently plays the important parts alone regarding the Crucible. No one on the crew is as smart or has the resources she has of course. Her being the one to come to Shepard's cabin to be his emotional support regardless of romance or not is also lame. But the thing that secured Liara into my Pantheon of Hatred is when you take her to Thessia in ME3. She becomes downright obnoxious on that mission. I really want to just leave her there when she said "maybe the next time we go to war, the Alliance can spring for air support." That line comes off just so... wrong. I really hate how Bioware shoves this character down your throat. And sadly, the one asari I actually like in a Bioware game (Lexi) cannot be romanced. Also to add to the post I made slightly before this one. I get irritated when people say that Liara was "complex" as a character. Walter White is a complex character. Liara is an inconsistent character which isn't the same as complex. To me a character like Morrigan (DAO in particular) can be considered complex. Liara is actually a pretty straight forward character.
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Post by obbie1984 on Oct 24, 2017 6:01:43 GMT
This so much. I actually find she is one of the characters that gets WORSE as the series progresses. Her voice actor gets worse somehow. She tries to come off as badass or cold with that lame husky voice, but it feels so contrived instead. Her keeping your armor in Shadow Broker DLC when you yell at her for invading your privacy is even creepier. Its made more creepy if you romanced Kaidan or Ashley too. She doesn't really tell anyone about the Collector threat or about Shepard in ME2. Her being the sole person to care enough to retrieve Shepard is also dumb. I'll never romance her but I watched it on YT and it also lacks the emotion Tali, Jack, and Ashley have as well. Especially with that aforementioned husky delivery. In ME3, she conveniently plays the important parts alone regarding the Crucible. No one on the crew is as smart or has the resources she has of course. Her being the one to come to Shepard's cabin to be his emotional support regardless of romance or not is also lame. But the thing that secured Liara into my Pantheon of Hatred is when you take her to Thessia in ME3. She becomes downright obnoxious on that mission. I really want to just leave her there when she said "maybe the next time we go to war, the Alliance can spring for air support." That line comes off just so... wrong. I really hate how Bioware shoves this character down your throat. And sadly, the one asari I actually like in a Bioware game (Lexi) cannot be romanced. I think it's fair enough for Kaidan/Ashley not to find Shepard. I doubt they had the resources or opportunity (How Liara did, I don't know). It took the Alliance a couple of years just to find the Normandy crash site. What I find strange is that Liara didn't tell a romanced Kaidan/Ashley or Spacer Shepard's parents what she'd done. I would think they would have a right to know. I do actually like Liara, overall and I think she gets some nice scenes , but yeah, some things about her story maybe weren't done all that well. It kind of seemed like they rowed back from her ME2 character development in ME3. Sure, she's officially the Shadow Broker, but she barely bothers keeping it a secret (mentioned it in front of James, who she'd just met) and I think I probably got more intel from Traynor than I got from her. Might have been interesting if she'd really ended up as a cynical anti-hero, as a certain character can in the Dragon Age series. Makes a great partner in crime for a biotic Shepard in combat though. That too. I'm fine with Kaidan and Ash not finding Shepard. But yeah, what I meant to say its really dumb she never tells the romance or Shepard's mom. They really messed up her character in ME2. Its also weird you're hugging if you were rude to her in ME1. And Liara is actually the worst Shadow Broker. Even TIM figures out she is the shadow broker. And I'm sure she's fine in combat. She's got singularity after all. But I find Shepard can function in ME3 without any squadmates easily. So I never use her. In ME1, my main team is Wrex/Kaidan with any Shepard. So much utility with them.
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Post by Guts on Oct 24, 2017 23:28:33 GMT
Also to add to the post I made slightly before this one. I get irritated when people say that Liara was "complex" as a character. Walter White is a complex character. Liara is an inconsistent character which isn't the same as complex. To me a character like Morrigan (DAO in particular) can be considered complex. Liara is actually a pretty straight forward character. I'm not really seeing how Liara is straight forward, I found her development made her inconsistent. (Can't comment on Morrigan as I've never played DA:O)
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Post by flaine1996 on Oct 27, 2017 12:12:03 GMT
Aww its a pity i wasnt able to cast a vote on the poll... I actually dont hate any character... just strongly dislike... so if i had to pick 2 liara and garrus... its more on the fact they are overhyped and not that useful? though im starting to warm up to liara
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Post by Garo on Oct 30, 2017 23:22:11 GMT
Kaidan because how boring can you get and maybe Morinth because she just evil.
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Post by dmc1001 on Oct 31, 2017 15:24:21 GMT
Aww its a pity i wasnt able to cast a vote on the poll... I actually dont hate any character... just strongly dislike... so if i had to pick 2 liara and garrus... its more on the fact they are overhyped and not that useful? though im starting to warm up to liara Make a new poll! It's sad that I really did believe people would be so into MEA that they wouldn't waste much time over on the MET side of things.
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Post by themikefest on Oct 31, 2017 18:49:55 GMT
But the thing that secured Liara into my Pantheon of Hatred is when you take her to Thessia in ME3. She becomes downright obnoxious on that mission. I really want to just leave her there when she said "I'm sorry. I can't be that callous to my people". That line was enough for me to want Steve to turn the shuttle around and use another squadmate. When having thoughts like that, you lose focus that can lead to bad things. Also when she says "Shepard, that's my home. I have to go." She's too emotional. There should have been an option not to take her. Really? You're thinking of another war while currently at war with the reapers? You know what asari? If the people of the galaxy learn about your species withholding information that could have helped earlier, they might go to war against your species. Be careful what you wish for, it just might come true. That part is crap. Trying to pass the blame to someone else instead of admitting her pathetic species messed up. As soon as she said that, I turned around and shot at her. Unfortunately she didn't die. Too bad there wasn't an interrupt. If the line was meant as a joke, maybe she needs to look in the mirror to see what a joke is. The other thing is that I can yell at Joker, but can't when the asari gets in Javiks face trying to blame him and his species for what happened on Thessia.
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Post by themikefest on Oct 31, 2017 19:00:46 GMT
I think it's fair enough for Kaidan/Ashley not to find Shepard. I doubt they had the resources or opportunity (How Liara did, I don't know). Without Cerberus and Feron, she wasn't making any attempt to find Shepard. Its odd for her to say she's a friend, but not make any attempt to inform the Alliance of what happened with Shepard's corpse. That is one question, as well as a couple of others, I wanted my Sheppard to ask her. I would guess that Bioware wanted to avoid creating any friction between Shepard and the alien. The other thing is why are the dogtags given to the asari by Hackett, if she isn't romanced, instead of them being given to Mrs. Shepard, if playing a spacer. I guess Bioware is saying that the alien is more important than Shepard's mother.
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Creepy Blue Waifu is too important to let you not like or be mad at her.
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Creepy Blue Waifu is too important to let you not like or be mad at her. Which means if you don't want to encourage her you ignore her completely, including skipping LotSB and not inviting her to your cabin in ME3 (though I think it prevents a lot of other invitees from showing up as a result).
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Post by CrutchCricket on Oct 31, 2017 20:09:48 GMT
Poll is now open folks. And I see I have at least one bannu to hand out... I don't actually hate any squadmate. Sure some of them gather more dust than others but that's mostly because I really like some other squadmates. But I can say nice things about (almost anyone). I also didn't jump on the Jacob hate train this time around- he's just a regular dude in a cast of superheroes. Give the guy a break. I did take the easy way out and pick the non-squadmates though- Morinth and Kaidan. Morinth could've been good as her own thing, as opposed to the dark half of Samara. And Kaidan was Nuked McBlanderson.
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Post by obbie1984 on Nov 2, 2017 22:43:17 GMT
I agree with everything mikefest said. Another thing that I hate about Liara is on Thessia again. There is proof that asari had knowledge of the Protheans and didn't share it. If you mention that we might not be in the mess we are if they did share it, Liara continues to defend her people like a fanboy. And then as mikefest mentioned, she gets mad at Javik for speaking the truth. I have no idea how one mission makes one characters so much more interesting/likable (Javik) and makes another more annoying than she already is.
And while I do advocate ignoring Liara, you do miss out on some decent content if you ignore her. Shadow Broker DLC is actually pretty good minus Liara. The cabin scene afterward where Shepard can vent frustration is a great scene for Shepard, but is only possible with Liara. Shepard sharing some thoughts about the people they have lost is once again only with Liara. The beacon being left for future cycles is something apparently only Liara is capable of doing.
She is the only squad mate who is close to Shepard that cannot be killed off until the very end. Even Garrus can die in ME2, but we can't get rid of Liara if we wanted to.
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Post by N7Valentine on Nov 3, 2017 20:07:12 GMT
Honestly, Liara is such a conniving blue c*nt! She doesn't inform Kaidan/Ashley (potential LIs for Shep) about giving Shep's body to Cerberus, which caused drama between them and bad mouthed them in Shadow Broker DLC. She even didn't tell Shep about Tali liking him because her creepy-stalker-ass wants to keep Shep all for herself How anyone can like that backstabbing b*tch is beyond me. People say Ash and Miri are b*tches, fine , they are, but they're at least honest about it. Liara gets away with it by acting "cute, shy, innocent and socially awkward scientist girl" but I've seen through her... She's actually creepy af If there was a chance in ME1, I'd have saved both, Kaidan and Ashley, and nuked Liara ass instead on Virmire. Both are much more likeable than her fake ass
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Post by nvanfleet on Nov 3, 2017 21:41:55 GMT
People say Ash and Miri are b*tches, fine , they are, but they're at least honest about it. Liara gets away with it by acting "cute, shy, innocent and socially awkward scientist girl" but I've seen through her... She's actually creepy af If there was a chance in ME1, I'd have saved both, Kaidan and Ashley, and nuked Liara ass instead on Virmire. Both are much more likeable than her fake ass I like the cut of your jib, sir!
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Post by Upggrade on Nov 3, 2017 23:37:51 GMT
Kaidan and Tali. At his best Kaidan puts me to sleep. At his worse he's an annoying little bitch. In the first game, Tali is a boring encyclopedia about her boring species boring history and culture. In 2 she's...I'm not really sure, I don't talk to her. In 3 she's not alive long enough to bore me. So that's good I guess.
Special mention to Kasumi as well. Not because I don't like her, she's fine, but because she's pointless. We're charging headfirst into a straight fight against Crom-only-knows-what, the fuck do we need a thief for? I initially thought the same about Thane but at least he's good in a fight.
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Post by obbie1984 on Nov 4, 2017 22:42:23 GMT
Neither Ashley nor Miranda are bitches though. Ashley is opinionated and holds to her beliefs. She doesn't pull her punches and she says what she feels. She's not shy and dainty so apparently that makes her a bitch? The only realy dbag thing she says is when she tells Shepard to go to hell when he shoots her. But can you blame her? I kind of wish she wouldn't just shoot Wrex in the back if you can't come to an agreement though (and what makes it worse is you still get blamed for it in ME2 even if she killed him).
Miranda softens considerably as the series goes on. My only problem with Miranda is the complete lack of emotion she shows when she is in a romance with Shepard.
Bioware tried to make Liara more badass, colder, and "cool" as the series went on. Instead she got worse as a character and less likable than she already was.
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Post by themikefest on Nov 6, 2017 21:28:10 GMT
Honestly, Liara is such a conniving blue c*nt! She doesn't inform Kaidan/Ashley (potential LIs for Shep) about giving Shep's body to Cerberus, which caused drama between them and bad mouthed them in Shadow Broker DLC. She doesn't have to inform them. Though I would be curious, if she did, how it would change the scene on Horizon in ME2. If anything, just have her tell the Alliance. Let the Alliance tell A/K. It takes the responsilbility out her hands and puts it on the Alliance. The other reason is if playing a spacer, the Alliance can inform Mrs.Shepard. The problem is T'soni made no effort to tell anyone. Heh, Jacob. No surprises there. The one good thing about Jacob, is in ME3, if he survives ME2, he does what the ME3 squadmates failed to do. Provide cover fire for Shepard when being helped by Brynn. Colder? Ruthless? I saw nothing in the trilogy that made the asari colder or ruthless.
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Post by stephenw32768 on Nov 6, 2017 21:51:19 GMT
Colder? Ruthless? I saw nothing in the trilogy that made the asari colder or ruthless. The execution-style fashion in which she deals with the Cerberus troopers in her first scene in ME3 comes to mind. Now, she needed to deal with them somehow because they'd have killed her without a second thought; it's the calm, deliberate manner that stands out in that scene. I can't imagine ME1!Liara doing that.
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Post by themikefest on Nov 6, 2017 21:54:58 GMT
The execution-style fashion in which she deals with the Cerberus troopers in her first scene in ME3 comes to mind. Now, she needed to deal with them somehow because they'd have killed her without a second thought; it's the calm, deliberate manner that stands out in that scene. I can't imagine ME1!Liara doing that. I wouldn't say that. She's just defending herself. The other thing is she wasted her energy using a singularity when she could shoot them as they came out of the vent.
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Post by CrutchCricket on Nov 6, 2017 22:28:50 GMT
Special mention to Kasumi as well. Not because I don't like her, she's fine, but because she's pointless. W e're charging headfirst into a straight fight against Crom-only-knows-what, the fuck do we need a thief for? I initially thought the same about Thane but at least he's good in a fight. Actually we're not- we're putting together a team of specialists when the initial assumption is that we're going to a Collector homeworld. Even by "art" standards, 12 people vs a planetful is beyond pants on head retarded. Even when it's reduced to a Collector base and despite the gaps in the writing, the structure of the mission is more akin to an infiltration/ guerilla smash and grab and Kasumi just happens to be an infiltration expert. By design or (more likely) by mistake, we're actually provided with a decently balanced squad of people for that sort of thing, complete with redundancies: -two infiltration experts: Thane, Kasumi -two tech experts: Tali, Legion -two medical/bio experts: Mordin/Okeer. The latter gets nixed, Mordin sees us through. -two heavy biotic experts: Samara, Jack -two grunts: Zaeed and well... Grunt -Two team leads/weapons: Jacob, Garrus with Shepard as teh CO and Miranda as 2IC. Not a bad breakdown, really, especially since some of them can act as backups for some of the other categories. Kasumi can be a backup tech, Jacob can be a backup biotic etc. Miranda softens considerably as the series goes on. My only problem with Miranda is the complete lack of emotion she shows when she is in a romance with Shepard. In what way? It's been a while but I remember her being plenty emotional.
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Post by nvanfleet on Nov 6, 2017 23:07:44 GMT
Miranda was my favorite romance for Shep until they brought in Kaidan as available to him in ME3. Over-reliance on butt shots and stereotypical sex appeal aside, I thought Miranda's arc as the Inside Woman coming around to realize that Cerberus is Awful was really compelling.
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