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Post by themikefest on Nov 6, 2017 23:25:35 GMT
Lair of the Shadow Broker? The flat, cold tone that she responds with to Shepard post-ME1? I say she did that to avoid answering any questions Shepard might have Sounds like a lot of people, but that doesn't make them ruthless. After Thessia I get, but not the broker. I know nothing about her romance. And why would you want to relate to her?
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Post by Upggrade on Nov 6, 2017 23:41:30 GMT
Special mention to Kasumi as well. Not because I don't like her, she's fine, but because she's pointless. W e're charging headfirst into a straight fight against Crom-only-knows-what, the fuck do we need a thief for? I initially thought the same about Thane but at least he's good in a fight. Actually we're not- we're putting together a team of specialists when the initial assumption is that we're going to a Collector homeworld. Even by "art" standards, 12 people vs a planetful is beyond pants on head retarded. Even when it's reduced to a Collector base and despite the gaps in the writing, the structure of the mission is more akin to an infiltration/ guerilla smash and grab and Kasumi just happens to be an infiltration expert. By design or (more likely) by mistake, we're actually provided with a decently balanced squad of people for that sort of thing, complete with redundancies: -two infiltration experts: Thane, Kasumi -two tech experts: Tali, Legion -two medical/bio experts: Mordin/Okeer. The latter gets nixed, Mordin sees us through. -two heavy biotic experts: Samara, Jack -two grunts: Zaeed and well... Grunt -Two team leads/weapons: Jacob, Garrus with Shepard as teh CO and Miranda as 2IC. Not a bad breakdown, really, especially since some of them can act as backups for some of the other categories. Kasumi can be a backup tech, Jacob can be a backup biotic etc. Miranda softens considerably as the series goes on. My only problem with Miranda is the complete lack of emotion she shows when she is in a romance with Shepard. In what way? It's been a while but I remember her being plenty emotional. The homeworld thing was just laughable. They didn't know it was going to be more like an infiltration though. The game made it clear that they didn't know what exactly was on the other side of the relay. Sure, bring somebody sneaky just in case but given the make-up of the rest of the squad, stealth was never going to be plan A. It didn't end up factoring in at all actually. Like I said, I don't mind her, just don't need her either. And the balance was definitely an accident. Most of the squad just ended up being filler, only like 4 were actually important.
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Post by CrutchCricket on Nov 7, 2017 13:38:16 GMT
The homeworld thing was just laughable. They didn't know it was going to be more like an infiltration though. The game made it clear that they didn't know what exactly was on the other side of the relay. Sure, bring somebody sneaky just in case but given the make-up of the rest of the squad, stealth was never going to be plan A. It didn't end up factoring in at all actually. Like I said, I don't mind her, just don't need her either. And the balance was definitely an accident. Most of the squad just ended up being filler, only like 4 were actually important. Again, some level of infiltration was implied, given the premise of 12 people vs a planet (or even 12 people vs a space station). Stealth doesn't just mean "go MGS/Splinter Cell on fools", though I wouldn't have minded more of that, especially as I was an infiltrator. And the SM definitely could've been refined in terms of game mechanics, even though it wasn't mechanics I was referring to, but more story/plot. For the story and what this team needed to do, its composition and membership makes sense. The only one whose recruitment doesn't make sense as planned is Jack and that's not because her skills but because of her beef with Cerberus.
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Post by obbie1984 on Nov 7, 2017 23:38:08 GMT
In what way? It's been a while but I remember her being plenty emotional. I did a recent playthrough with Miranda romance and it just didn't feel as fully fleshed out as I remembered. Especially if you compare it to Jack or Tali. Like right after the loyalty mission Miranda is all of a sudden attracted to Shepard. Its possible she always thought he was attractive, but it comes off a bit contrived that she would be interested after he helps her. Then the dialogue leading up to them admitting they have feelings is not as in depth or as interesting as other characters. I need a little more than "come on Miranda, you want this" to be invested. Once again, with Jack and Tali it felt like they were more complex and interesting personalities romanced or not. Into ME3, Miranda claims she gets really attached to Shepard, but much of her body language and dialogue is very similar to a non romanced Shepard. I'm not saying she has to fangirl over Shepard all the time, but show me a little more of why you are attached to me. More than half the time, she is going on about her sister (which is the same arc she had in ME2, which leads me to believe Bioware didn't know what to do with her). Even the apartment scene where she apologizes for wanting to control you is the same unless you flirt with her. She could have said something more about it especially after how close you got with her. I will admit she is great in the Citadel scenes. I think its to make up for how boring she acts otherwise. And then on Sanctuary, the voice acting doesn't lead me to believe either really care for each other. Which is funny because the voice acting is on fire when Miranda is dying in that same scene. Similarly, she shows more emotion if you break up with her in ME3 than she does if she's alive and you're with her. And by far the most disappointing one is the final talk with her on the hologram. Again, most of the body language and dialogue is the same outside of one line. It doesn't go so well after the Citadel scenes you have with her. I think she might be the only romance that never even says she loves you or really says anything all that nice to you. I'm not saying I absolutely need this from a woman, but saying it once in a while helps. Especially when this might be the last time you ever see me again. I dunno, I remember initially thinking Miranda was awesome. But after a recent playthrough of males romances (Jack, Miranda, Tali, Ash), I actually ended up finding Miranda the weakest. And the other three far more interesting (especially Jack and Tali). The synergy between Jack and Tali make me believe they actually like each other.
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Post by CrutchCricket on Nov 8, 2017 14:19:16 GMT
I did a recent playthrough with Miranda romance and it just didn't feel as fully fleshed out as I remembered. Especially if you compare it to Jack or Tali. Like right after the loyalty mission Miranda is all of a sudden attracted to Shepard. Its possible she always thought he was attractive, but it comes off a bit contrived that she would be interested after he helps her. Then the dialogue leading up to them admitting they have feelings is not as in depth or as interesting as other characters. I need a little more than "come on Miranda, you want this" to be invested. Once again, with Jack and Tali it felt like they were more complex and interesting personalities romanced or not. Into ME3, Miranda claims she gets really attached to Shepard, but much of her body language and dialogue is very similar to a non romanced Shepard. I'm not saying she has to fangirl over Shepard all the time, but show me a little more of why you are attached to me. More than half the time, she is going on about her sister (which is the same arc she had in ME2, which leads me to believe Bioware didn't know what to do with her). Even the apartment scene where she apologizes for wanting to control you is the same unless you flirt with her. She could have said something more about it especially after how close you got with her. I will admit she is great in the Citadel scenes. I think its to make up for how boring she acts otherwise. And then on Sanctuary, the voice acting doesn't lead me to believe either really care for each other. Which is funny because the voice acting is on fire when Miranda is dying in that same scene. Similarly, she shows more emotion if you break up with her in ME3 than she does if she's alive and you're with her. And by far the most disappointing one is the final talk with her on the hologram. Again, most of the body language and dialogue is the same outside of one line. It doesn't go so well after the Citadel scenes you have with her. I think she might be the only romance that never even says she loves you or really says anything all that nice to you. I'm not saying I absolutely need this from a woman, but saying it once in a while helps. Especially when this might be the last time you ever see me again. I dunno, I remember initially thinking Miranda was awesome. But after a recent playthrough of males romances (Jack, Miranda, Tali, Ash), I actually ended up finding Miranda the weakest. And the other three far more interesting (especially Jack and Tali). The synergy between Jack and Tali make me believe they actually like each other. Yeah Miranda doesn't put casual boneage on the table like Jack or hero-worships like Tali, but that only makes her different, not worse, unless it's simply down to personal preference. Miranda was always played as hyper professional and yes, a Defrosting Ice Queen. You can be into that or not, but I wouldn't call it lesser. And I'm not sure how you land on "Come on Miranda, you want this", and deem it insufficient, given what comes before and after. 2:38 Miranda freaks out about the depth of her feelings, especially in the face of certain doom. She drops the L word which I certainly don't remember Tali doing at the time (and I really doubt Jack would). 3:17 "Don't die- you promise me!" -honestly one of the most heartfelt things an NPC's ever said to me. Again it makes sense given her character and position. She's not naive like Tali or giving zero fucks like Jack. She knows what's coming and her growing feelings make her downright terrified, because for once in her life she has something to lose. Also there were great debates back in the day on whether the top right option that leads to "come on Miranda, you want this" was really the best way to play it. Some argued the middle option or even "damn it, you're right" were more romantic. I can't remember details though. Honestly I could write pages on Miranda's character (at least in ME2, and given some time to replay or re-read some things) but I suspect this comes down to preference more than anything. ME3, yeah they dropped teh ball hard. Hence why some people thought the writers intended her to die via breakup. We all know what they can eat. Edit: those animations are rougher than I remembered. Shepard has full on biowerface. I'm curious what going back would be like...
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Post by obbie1984 on Nov 8, 2017 23:45:44 GMT
I did a recent playthrough with Miranda romance and it just didn't feel as fully fleshed out as I remembered. Especially if you compare it to Jack or Tali. Like right after the loyalty mission Miranda is all of a sudden attracted to Shepard. Its possible she always thought he was attractive, but it comes off a bit contrived that she would be interested after he helps her. Then the dialogue leading up to them admitting they have feelings is not as in depth or as interesting as other characters. I need a little more than "come on Miranda, you want this" to be invested. Once again, with Jack and Tali it felt like they were more complex and interesting personalities romanced or not. Into ME3, Miranda claims she gets really attached to Shepard, but much of her body language and dialogue is very similar to a non romanced Shepard. I'm not saying she has to fangirl over Shepard all the time, but show me a little more of why you are attached to me. More than half the time, she is going on about her sister (which is the same arc she had in ME2, which leads me to believe Bioware didn't know what to do with her). Even the apartment scene where she apologizes for wanting to control you is the same unless you flirt with her. She could have said something more about it especially after how close you got with her. I will admit she is great in the Citadel scenes. I think its to make up for how boring she acts otherwise. And then on Sanctuary, the voice acting doesn't lead me to believe either really care for each other. Which is funny because the voice acting is on fire when Miranda is dying in that same scene. Similarly, she shows more emotion if you break up with her in ME3 than she does if she's alive and you're with her. And by far the most disappointing one is the final talk with her on the hologram. Again, most of the body language and dialogue is the same outside of one line. It doesn't go so well after the Citadel scenes you have with her. I think she might be the only romance that never even says she loves you or really says anything all that nice to you. I'm not saying I absolutely need this from a woman, but saying it once in a while helps. Especially when this might be the last time you ever see me again. I dunno, I remember initially thinking Miranda was awesome. But after a recent playthrough of males romances (Jack, Miranda, Tali, Ash), I actually ended up finding Miranda the weakest. And the other three far more interesting (especially Jack and Tali). The synergy between Jack and Tali make me believe they actually like each other. Yeah Miranda doesn't put casual boneage on the table like Jack or hero-worships like Tali, but that only makes her different, not worse, unless it's simply down to personal preference. Miranda was always played as hyper professional and yes, a Defrosting Ice Queen. You can be into that or not, but I wouldn't call it lesser. And I'm not sure how you land on "Come on Miranda, you want this", and deem it insufficient, given what comes before and after. I never said she was lesser as a character. I just think its less interesting than the other two. I also have no problem with her being more professional and such. I actually like professional and serious characters most of the time. In fact, that is one of the things I do like about Miranda. How she kept things strictly professional and showed her emotions once in a while as opposed to Jack coming off the hinges simply because you said the wrong thing. With Jack, her casually offering sex but rejecting it and getting to know her better makes her more interesting because she's unsure of your motivations. Especially when she's been used so many times. Tali's hero worship is definitely a bit off putting at first. But when she confesses that she's had feelings for you and didn't know if you could see past her mask; that's pretty heart felt. And Tali's affinity for you can change based on what you do in her loyalty mission. If you go against her wishes, she won't pursue you. She will be angry with you. For Miranda, there is no real way to mess up her mission AND she'll be attracted to you regardless. Tali isn't naive either. She does mention a few times that we may never come back from the mission and she wants to share herself with you before the final battle. That's very heart felt to me. Just like Jack coming up to your cabin and simply embracing you in tears because she finally feels accepted by someone. And personally, her dropping the "L" word after one conversation about being interested in each other is weird to me. I think it makes more sense that Tali doesn't say it right away and Jack not saying it at all. Its too soon. And you say Tali is naive, but Miranda tells Shepard to promise not to die? I always choose the second option because "it doesn't work that way" as Shepard says. Most of my disappointment for Miranda does come from ME3. I would be fine with ME2's scenes if they were stronger in ME3. But they aren't. Its also not all preference as you yourself admit her romance is weaker in ME3. I also prefer she lives. With what little Jack gets, her scenes are pretty strong. She jokes around with a romanced Shepard, she flirts, and she doesn't act dainty around him either (like how she punches him and then just grabs and kisses him or how she busts his balls). She's just a more lively and fun character. Plus her Citadel scenes are amazing. Both the combat simulator and especially the tattoo scene (probably my favorite romance scene in the series) are really well done. I know Miranda is a different personality, but her Citadel scenes feel like they were there to address how weak Miranda is in the main games. I won't go into great detail about Tali, but I think her progression into ME3 is very strong and its made stronger with her romance. I wouldn't mind reading a long post about why you think Miranda is great honestly. There might be something I missed that might make her more endearing for all I know.
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Post by XJlock on Nov 11, 2017 23:08:48 GMT
Jacob and Morinth.
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Post by copper on Dec 25, 2017 0:23:06 GMT
Liara and EDI. Though I liked EDI in ME2, I didn't care for her "teach a robot to love" thing and overly sexualized body in ME3.
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Post by tacsear on Dec 30, 2017 22:24:02 GMT
I picked Jacob and Kaidan but even they had their moments, especially in ME3. I kinda at least like all of them
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Post by cyberpunker on Jan 27, 2020 8:16:52 GMT
1. Jacob - > Very boring (as said multiple times) and just really nothing that stood out. Bioware missed an opportunity to give him a memorable personality, coming off of his own mini-game. He was an ex-Alliance, now ex-Cerberus operative. ME2 says he is capable of leading his own team like Garrus. But there is really nothing about him that makes him stand out, and he comes off as just "nothing special", which is not true given his own role in his own game. But ME2 and ME3 really dropped the ball in developing him further and his story further.
2. James -> Nothing personal against James, but the way Bioware introduced him really missed the mark. There was no introduction to who James was, why he was on your team, and how you got to know him. He also has nothing special about him that we haven't seen before (Crack Alliance Military? Ashley/Kaiden; Macho Heavy? Grunt/Wrex). All James amounted to was another version of all the things we already had before, either in Garrus/Virmire Survivor/Krogan Companion. He really adds nothing new or necessary to the story or the team, besides being an extra gun. His abilities are also pretty generic. By the time we hit the 3rd game, Bioware had to introduce someone interesting like Javik or else anyone generic would have a "been there done that" feeling. In his place, we should have gotten a returning character like Anderson (with James' abilities) or perhaps someone new like a Batarian companion.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 30, 2020 22:12:16 GMT
2. James -> Nothing personal against James, but the way Bioware introduced him really missed the mark. I've been dabbling with a remade MET that more or less rearranges things to put ME2 as the first game and ME1 as the second. Since Eden Prime wouldn't happen until the second game, Ash would be introduced then, but ultimately leave because she didn't want to serve Cerberus. Then Ash would replace James in ME3. Then Ash could be an N7 while Kaidan is a Spectre.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jan 31, 2020 22:17:08 GMT
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Post by AnDromedary on Feb 3, 2020 18:08:05 GMT
2. James -> Nothing personal against James, but the way Bioware introduced him really missed the mark. There was no introduction to who James was, why he was on your team, and how you got to know him. He also has nothing special about him that we haven't seen before (Crack Alliance Military? Ashley/Kaiden; Macho Heavy? Grunt/Wrex). All James amounted to was another version of all the things we already had before, either in Garrus/Virmire Survivor/Krogan Companion. He really adds nothing new or necessary to the story or the team, besides being an extra gun. His abilities are also pretty generic. By the time we hit the 3rd game, Bioware had to introduce someone interesting like Javik or else anyone generic would have a "been there done that" feeling. In his place, we should have gotten a returning character like Anderson (with James' abilities) or perhaps someone new like a Batarian companion. While I agree with you in principle, I think the main purpose of James as a character was to be an anchor for people who were new to the series. While IMO it makes no sense whatsoever to start with ME3 (James or no James), BW at the time got it into their head that "ME3 is a great way for new players to step into the ME universe". Of course, this was marketing BS but it was repeated over and over again as ME3's release in 2012 came closer and James was their token "new guy" character for that purpose. As such, it made sense for him to be someone generic, someone easy to understand for someone not familiar with the universe and he needed to be someone to whom a lot of the stuff that all the other characters would already know had to be explained (so new players could follow along). These types of characters are actually pretty common in an ongoing series. Mostly they are annoying to those who are already in the know but I actually like James, given this constraint. I think Freddy Prince Jr.'s likable voice acting makes up for a lot of the character's blandness. He actually managed to give him some memorable personality.
To me, my two least favorite squad mates are also Jacob (agree with you there) and probably Morinth, simply because I just do not see how it would make sense for any Shepard - even a diehard renegade - to sacrifice a reliable squad mate like Samara for an unpredictable psychopath who just tried to kill you seconds earlier. I do think she is an interesting character, she just had no business being a potential squad mate. I only chose her once with my fuck-it-I-just-take-every-renegade-choice-no-matter-what Shepard, mainly just to see how that actually plays out. Also, once she is recruited, the way it barely makes a difference at all is kinda lame.
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Post by dmc1001 on Feb 4, 2020 2:09:44 GMT
To me, my two least favorite squad mates are also Jacob (agree with you there) and probably Morinth, simply because I just do not see how it would make sense for any Shepard - even a diehard renegade - to sacrifice a reliable squad mate like Samara for an unpredictable psychopath who just tried to kill you seconds earlier. I do think she is an interesting character, she just had no business being a potential squad mate. I only chose her once with my fuck-it-I-just-take-every-renegade-choice-no-matter-what Shepard, mainly just to see how that actually plays out. Also, once she is recruited, the way it barely makes a difference at all is kinda lame. You've convinced me. I already had Jacob there but I just switched from Zaeed to Morinth. Makes sense.
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Post by cyberpunker on Mar 18, 2020 9:17:26 GMT
2. James -> Nothing personal against James, but the way Bioware introduced him really missed the mark. I've been dabbling with a remade MET that more or less rearranges things to put ME2 as the first game and ME1 as the second. Since Eden Prime wouldn't happen until the second game, Ash would be introduced then, but ultimately leave because she didn't want to serve Cerberus. Then Ash would replace James in ME3. Then Ash could be an N7 while Kaidan is a Spectre. I'd pay for it!
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Mar 18, 2020 9:47:42 GMT
ME2 non-original squadmates.
The divide between ME1 vs. 2 has been way too large for me now that I played ME2 a bit (well half of it). Its almost laughable how "grimdark" the second part is and how much they drove the Mako into the forest so to say, note, for me now this time. Of course I'm now older but it seems the less I like second part mostly because of Cerberus and its characters. Feels like I'm herding helpless younglings, and in a bad way, I cannot connect to any of them at this time. /Rant
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Post by burningcherry on Mar 18, 2020 19:02:44 GMT
ME2 non-original squadmates. The divide between ME1 vs. 2 has been way too large for me now that I played ME2 a bit (well half of it). Its almost laughable how "grimdark" the second part is and how much they drove the Mako into the forest so to say, note, for me now this time. Of course I'm now older but it seems the less I like second part mostly because of Cerberus and its characters. Feels like I'm herding helpless younglings, and in a bad way, I cannot connect to any of them at this time. /Rant Pretty much this. My choices are Miranda and Legion, the personifications of the two most negative narration changes/redesigns.
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Post by dmc1001 on Mar 23, 2020 13:27:36 GMT
As I go along, who I dislike changes. Morinth is still there but I've taken Jacob off the list and replaced him with Aria. I know that's an unpopular choice with many but I have never liked her, not even for a moment. Too arrogant for my tastes. Before you say the same is true of Miranda, realize she underwent drastic changes by the end of ME2. I never loved her in ME2 but felt differently in ME3, particularly in the videos where I saw her die.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Apr 11, 2020 20:59:14 GMT
I chose jacob because he is meh. And morinth because she is a freaking serieal killer and I never had her in my squad.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Apr 12, 2020 19:34:05 GMT
Liara and Morrinth the former because...she creeps me out, plus the more I play the trilogy the more she annoys me and the latter...I've never had her on my team, and kinda like most people...I am NOT recruiting someone who recently tried to kill me (except Zevran...because it's Zevran and he's at least mentally stable...sorta )
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Post by Polka Dot on Apr 12, 2020 22:35:22 GMT
Kaidan and Miranda - neither of whom make it to ME3 with any regularity.
Kaidan because I find him whiny and meh with a fair dose of the same stalker-ish behaviors sometimes attributed to other characters. FemShep can't get through ME1 without being accused of having a relationship with him, even if she never speaks to him. I also learned - the hard way - not to meet him at Apollo's in ME3 until after the desired LI is locked in. No, Kaidan, there still isn't anything between us. Never has been, never will be. Are you really that blind to my ongoing affair with someone else?
Miranda because she's a Cerberus Cheerleader, her very existence is a warped application of technology, and she was all set to enslave Shep with a control chip. Also, camel toe and wedgie ass in my face pretty much gross me out.
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Post by Highwayman667 on May 15, 2020 23:37:40 GMT
Ashley 3rd ?
You people are monsters.
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Post by merylisk on May 20, 2020 3:37:03 GMT
I know I'm waaaay in the minority here, but I'm not a huge fan of Thane. In my headcanon, Shepard likes him fine so I always am super buds with him, but there's something about the way he's written that really irks me. He's just too self-serious, and I really don't like the weird sound effects and VFX they use to indicate his "flashbacks." I find it all just kind of cringey and unappealing.
Grunt was my other vote. He's cute and funny and fine but overall he doesn't do that much for me, and I'm not nearly as attached to him as I am to pretty much everyone else on that list. Some of humor is kind of a miss for me as well.
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Post by merylisk on May 20, 2020 3:41:34 GMT
Liara- Still haven't gotten over how creepy it was that she moved her stuff onto the Normandy without permission...and kept going into other people's personal stuff without permission. No, I don't mind having deeply personal conversations with you while I'm in the bathroom...No, of course it's ok to pick a fight with Javik even though I kept him away from you...of course it's acceptable to air Tali's personal information in front of people just to spite her. The few times she actually keeps something confidential, it's to keep from making herself look bad, like telling Ashley/Kaidan (who might be Shepard's lover) that she gave their girlfriend/boyfriend to a terrorist organization. Or when she knew Tali had a crush on Shepard but wanted less competition. Morinth- I'm sorry, but 300 years as an emo goth wannabe is too long to act that way. I actually like all of these things about Liara. She's definitely a flawed character, but I find these things all make her more complex and realistic. Whether you romance her or not, I headcanon that she's carrying a not-so-secret flame for Shepard, and totally has issues with boundaries. I find it kind of endearing tbh. She's definitely a complete freak but idk I like her and always pretty much headcanon that she's Shepard's best friend.
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Post by Sonya on May 20, 2020 8:43:03 GMT
Interesting that Liara takes the second place here. She still has fans, yes, but according to this devs made a great mistake giving her more of "everything" in comparison with other poor members.
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