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Post by dmc1001 on Sept 22, 2016 3:20:04 GMT
One is my "in game" head canon and the other is my "real world" of business speculation. Both are still speculation. I definitely relate to the headcanon and how RP can lead to different conclusions. It's better that way.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2016 12:34:39 GMT
The speculation is also based on the Prothean VI. It said that the Reapers were on Earth to harvest humans. The whole point of harvesting is to create new Reapers. So, sure, it may still be speculation in the sense that we don't see a proto-Reaper but the Reapers are harvesting humans. Also, I'd say the "human" Reaper was meant only to terrorize humanity. There are zero other examples of Reapers even remotely like it. The rest are pretty similar in design. I could be mistaken, but I thought EDI said something about the baby Reaper being the internal part of the a new Reaper ship. So Shep and CO sees the way the Reaper would look before they put on the Leviathan shell over it. I also thought that at some point during the same conversation it was mentioned that Reapers take on the shape of the race they are harvested from. I'm honestly not sure on that front. I do like the idea that the baby Reaper was meant to be used to terrify others. Come to think of it, since this was Harbinger's doing, it could have been there to specifically screw with Shepard's head and freak him/her out. Sadly for Harbinger, most Shepards are a walking and talking one person armory. It's possible... but, to me, it would make less sense for Harbinger to construct a Reaper (suddenly?) just to screw with Shepard's head. The game implies that the Reaper takes a fairly long time to build and many, many millions of "specimens" to fill it. Even Harbinger wouldn't be doing that just to screw with the head dof one individual. It's also unlikely that they would shape it that way to terrify humans... since the game seems to imply that only one Reaper is constructed for each civilization harvested (embodying all the essence of that civilization within it). That would mean that the Reaper itself would not be complete until after there are no humans left to terrify with it... and it was being built behind the veil of the Omega 4 Relay... where no humans were likely to ever see it. So, I still favor the human looking part becomes the core and a Leviathan looking shell gets added later... keeping in mind the EDI indicates quite clearly that she is speculating... which always opens up the opportunity for Bioware to insert something that just simply "proves" her speculations wrong (i.e. it's the same situation with Anderson and Shepard speculating about a Reaper being made on the Citadel). Which brings us back to the Catalyst... it was mentioned by dmc above that the Catalyst could be either lying or didn't know. (I see a third possibility - that the Catalyst was telling the truth, but we've discussed that already.) Let's move the the undiscussed one... The Catalyst didn't know. There is an indication that the Catalyst may be speculating about what would happen if the crucible were fired in different ways. The first world of the convo is "perhaps" (when Shepard asks if he can help him destroy the Reapers) and then later on in the conversation he identifies the options as only "new POSSIBILITIES." This can be interpreted as the Catalyst being uncertain... i.e. speculating. The think is - can computers "speculate"?... as opposed to "extrapolate." Edit: I wonder if there isn't some sort of comparative note going on between Justicars and the Catalyst in Shepard's conversation with Samara in ME3: I also find it interesting that she ends the convo with "we'll both be tested in fire soon enough... since the Catalyst uses the example of a fire burning to pose the question of whether or not the Reapers are at war or just doing what they are programmed to do.
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Post by themikefest on Sept 22, 2016 12:47:19 GMT
I wonder where the collectors and reapers got the idea that humans have 3 eyes? Since the reapers were made stupid in ME3, I guess making the proto-reaper have 3 eyes would make sense to them.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2016 12:56:49 GMT
I wonder where the collectors and reapers got the idea that humans have 3 eyes? Since the reapers were made stupid in ME3, I guess making the proto-reaper have 3 eyes would make sense to them. Yeah, that one's a mystery... perhaps their 4 eyes don't work as well as they'd like to think they do?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2016 13:16:29 GMT
an interesting article into what went wrong with the mass effect series.. caution. it's a long long read. mass effect revisited
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on Sept 22, 2016 16:36:29 GMT
The Catalyst sees things as an inevitability not because it never evolved or ignores what Shepard has done. But because the society they created and the way it was developed was following down the same path others have followed. The same path that caused the extinction of races that led to the Catalyst being created in the first place. When you are on the path you can not see it's ultimate end point. The Catalyst how ever sits above it watching and analyzing and can see the end point that the current cycle is walking. On that path the Quarians created VI's that evolved into their own form of life. Their reaction was one based on fear in which they attempted to shut down and wipe out the newly awaken Geth. Which resulted in a war that left the Quarian race on the verge of extinction. In responds the rest of the galaxy at order of the Council rounded up all AI's peaceful or not and had them executed. The Krogan got less despite casing 4x the amount of death and damage. The Reapers are invading. Every race is fighting tooth and nail to only be slowly pushed back and yet the Quarians launch an all out attack on the Geth simply because they can. If they were willing to do that when the Reapers are invading then they would be willing to do that in peace time. All of this adds up. Were another race in say Traverse create a race of Synthetic beings and they found out about the history of how they have been treated by the rest of the galaxy it would be more then enough reason to go to war and wipe out organics. Because they wouldn't be safe until organics were wiped out. Any unity gained from the war was only gained because of the war. The Quarians would have happily blown the Geth into oblivion. The Turians and Krogan would have stayed blood enemies and would have no reason to cure the genophage. The Batarians would still happily be engaging in slave raids and rendering people broken shells of their former self due to their treatment. Nothing would have changed and they would have continued to walk down that path. Salarians would still be meddling in the affairs of lesser species fucking them up much like Krogan. This is all basic cause and effect happening. The entire reason the Catalyst and by extension the Reapers exist is because society is set up in a way that causes inevitable conflict between organic and synthetic life. Which due to the advantages synthetic life has committed genocide on the race that created them. And there are more then enough echos of that in the game world. And that is the thing only Control and Synthesis at least attempts to address the issue. Destroy removes the Reapers and certainly increased the unity among organic races that wouldn't have existed before. But doesn't really change the landscape of society in regards to synthetic life. And as technology advances set ups like the Geth become more and more possible. Though with much higher intelligence obviously. Eventually there would need to be a technological stagnation or deal with a series of conflicts resulting in the loss of millions if not more lives. Which only enforces the negative view of them. Which in turn enforces the view of newly awakened synthetic life that they can't trust organic and their very existence is in danger as long as organic life exists. The universe did not evolve the same way, because Shepard made sure of that. I've stated that several times and for some reason you ignore that or well, you disagree. But it's quite obvious Shepard made a big change. And then you state 'This is all basic cause and effect happening'. No it's not! There is a reason this game is centered around Shepard. And you're not really addressing anything I brought up in my last post, or my first for that matter. Are we even in the same discussion here? But we're not getting anywhere, so lets leave it at this. I've addressed your point several times. I can't think of any other way to explain what I'm trying to say other then resorting to insults and/or treating you like an complete idiot. The game is based around Shepard as he is the protagonist of it. How ever the universe in with the game takes place doesn't revolve around Shepard. The issues that caused the Catalyst and later the Reapers to be created Shepard is at best a participant not the main focus that everything revolves around. And lets be honest the sum total of Shepard's actions boil down to "Hey lets not let them pick us off one by one." Also a lot of "Hey lets bet our entire existence on this untested unknown plan that was found in Prothean ruin because it must have worked out so well for them." The latter required some fast talking to be sure. Remember the entire reason the Catalyst even offers Shepard the options is because it notes that organics are starting to adapt to the cycles. AKA they are getting more and more adept at leaving information behind for the next cycle. Making it just a bit harder each time to harvest each cycle. Seeing the cycle as ultimately going to fail in long run and due to Shepard's actions it leaves the choice of how to proceed to Shepard. Each choice does effect the galaxy but not all choices effect the underlying problems that cause the conflict and thus death of millions between organic and synthetic life. In essence you will win the battle but ultimately lose the war.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2016 16:39:34 GMT
The universe did not evolve the same way, because Shepard made sure of that. I've stated that several times and for some reason you ignore that or well, you disagree. But it's quite obvious Shepard made a big change. And then you state 'This is all basic cause and effect happening'. No it's not! There is a reason this game is centered around Shepard. And you're not really addressing anything I brought up in my last post, or my first for that matter. Are we even in the same discussion here? But we're not getting anywhere, so lets leave it at this. I've addressed your point several times. I can't think of any other way to explain what I'm trying to say other then resorting to insults and/or treating you like an complete idiot. The game is based around Shepard as he is the protagonist of it. How ever the universe in with the game takes place doesn't revolve around Shepard. The issues that caused the Catalyst and later the Reapers to be created Shepard is at best a participant not the main focus that everything revolves around. And lets be honest the sum total of Shepard's actions boil down to "Hey lets not let them pick us off one by one." Also a lot of "Hey lets bet our entire existence on this untested unknown plan that was found in Prothean ruin because it must have worked out so well for them." The latter required some fast talking to be sure. Remember the entire reason the Catalyst even offers Shepard the options is because it notes that organics are starting to adapt to the cycles. AKA they are getting more and more adept at leaving information behind for the next cycle. Making it just a bit harder each time to harvest each cycle. Seeing the cycle as ultimately going to fail in long run and due to Shepard's actions it leaves the choice of how to proceed to Shepard. Each choice does effect the galaxy but not all choices effect the underlying problems that cause the conflict and thus death of millions between organic and synthetic life. In essence you will win the battle but ultimately lose the war. Quanxi just posted another thread that, IMO, seems to be coming from the same sort of place you are... about how events throughout the game changed the geth in particular. It might help.
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Post by grallon on Sept 23, 2016 16:45:07 GMT
Just finished another PT last night and something occurred to me:
What happened to all the inhabitants of the Citadel when the Reapers took over to move it to Sol System? Were they all slaughtered/processed?
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Post by themikefest on Sept 23, 2016 17:00:37 GMT
Just finished another PT last night and something occurred to me: What happened to all the inhabitants of the Citadel when the Reapers took over to move it to Sol System? Were they all slaughtered/processed? I'll let Patrick Weekes answer that question.
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Post by aoibhealfae on Sept 23, 2016 17:25:52 GMT
Kinda wish the game address what happened when the reapers took the Citadel. What happened to the Citadel fleet and all the refugee and military ships. How the reaper move a large complex structure as Citadel through the relay and didn't kill anyone through the process.
Its something they gloss over so quickly between Cronus Station and Earth. I know that the game was written in Buzz Aldrin's Shepard's pov but there's a lot of off screen cutscenes and they really miss out on this.
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Post by themikefest on Sept 23, 2016 17:46:14 GMT
Kinda wish the game address what happened when the reapers took the Citadel. What happened to the Citadel fleet and all the refugee and military ships. How the reaper move a large complex structure as Citadel through the relay and didn't kill anyone through the process. Its something they gloss over so quickly between Cronus Station and Earth. I know that the game was written in Buzz Aldrin's Shepard's pov but there's a lot of off screen cutscenes and they really miss out on this. Yeah. Like what happened to the Citadel war assets that Shepard gathered? Too bad ems wasn't effected by that. Shepard looks at the ems, after completing Cronos, and sees that its been reduced by however much. Who knows. Maybe TIM got in the drivers seat, started the engine, put it in gear and put his foot on the accelerator. The reapers escorted him to Earth. The biggest thing is there was no SOS sent. If so, did the reapers block it? I'm sure Bioware would give a similar answer the catalyst gave about the crucible. You don't need to know, and there's not enough time to explain.
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Post by Iakus on Sept 23, 2016 18:42:48 GMT
Kinda wish the game address what happened when the reapers took the Citadel. What happened to the Citadel fleet and all the refugee and military ships. How the reaper move a large complex structure as Citadel through the relay and didn't kill anyone through the process. Its something they gloss over so quickly between Cronus Station and Earth. I know that the game was written in Buzz Aldrin's Shepard's pov but there's a lot of off screen cutscenes and they really miss out on this. It just shows how little thought actually went into the ending, or what people would think about it, be it on an intellectual or emotional level.
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Post by Ieldra on Sept 24, 2016 6:43:53 GMT
an interesting article into what went wrong with the mass effect series.. caution. it's a long long read. mass effect revisitedYes, this article is rather well-known around here Thanks anyway, I think it can't be linked to often enough.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2016 5:17:28 GMT
Whoever made that image about the Reaper's reasoning obviously misread the conversation entirely. It is so off track of what he actually said.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2016 16:20:12 GMT
Kinda wish the game address what happened when the reapers took the Citadel. What happened to the Citadel fleet and all the refugee and military ships. How the reaper move a large complex structure as Citadel through the relay and didn't kill anyone through the process. Its something they gloss over so quickly between Cronus Station and Earth. I know that the game was written in Buzz Aldrin's Shepard's pov but there's a lot of off screen cutscenes and they really miss out on this. Yeah. Like what happened to the Citadel war assets that Shepard gathered? Too bad ems wasn't effected by that. Shepard looks at the ems, after completing Cronos, and sees that its been reduced by however much. Who knows. Maybe TIM got in the drivers seat, started the engine, put it in gear and put his foot on the accelerator. The reapers escorted him to Earth. The biggest thing is there was no SOS sent. If so, did the reapers block it? I'm sure Bioware would give a similar answer the catalyst gave about the crucible. You don't need to know, and there's not enough time to explain. The issue with there being no long-range SOS first appears with the Cerberus Coup. The Normandy (and every other ship around the area) was completely unaware of an issue until they were attempting to dock... and then only got word of what was happening from Thane. With Citadel in-out traffic allegedly being so high (per Emily Wong in ME1), this seems unlikely if any sort of SOS was emitting from the station... probably in either case (with the additional problem that the Reaper takeover involved taking out all those numerous ships without any SOS or signal being emitted from any of them either). I tend to view Weekes as being somewhat unrealistically conciliatory in the video - i.e. trying too hard to comfort people that there would be survivors on the Citadel and, therefore, implying that no one was killed when the Reapers took the Citadel. Some people do ask the question wondering whether or not anyone would be around to find Shepard after the Citadel was fired. There was certainly a death toll and damage during the Cerberus Coup, so there would likely be an even larger death toll on the Citadel when Cerberus and the Reapers are finally successful at capturing it. I tend to believe that at least some of the bodies lying about the Citadel would have been Citadel residents.
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Post by straykat on Sept 26, 2016 16:25:23 GMT
Yeah. Like what happened to the Citadel war assets that Shepard gathered? Too bad ems wasn't effected by that. Shepard looks at the ems, after completing Cronos, and sees that its been reduced by however much. Who knows. Maybe TIM got in the drivers seat, started the engine, put it in gear and put his foot on the accelerator. The reapers escorted him to Earth. The biggest thing is there was no SOS sent. If so, did the reapers block it? I'm sure Bioware would give a similar answer the catalyst gave about the crucible. You don't need to know, and there's not enough time to explain. I tend to view Weekes as being somewhat unrealistically conciliatory in the video - This is the only way I'm able to play with many of the things that leave me unsettled. That the developers probably don't want to be harsh in the first place. Like you've heard me speak about reservations about the Krogan, but in the end, it's probably not worth getting anxious about.. and I should just enjoy things on a narrative level. edit: Sadly, this makes the series more shallow than I prefer. And it definitely made DAI more shallow than I prefer.
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Post by themikefest on Sept 26, 2016 16:57:49 GMT
The issue with there being no long-range SOS first appears with the Cerberus Coup. The Normandy (and every other ship around the area) was completely unaware of an issue until they were attempting to dock... and then only got word of what was happening from Thane. Why are you mentioning Thane? You know Bailey sends a message to all ships in the area. Maybe so, but there's no way to know if they made any effort or not. He did say there were casualties I do believe someone on the Citadel does find Shepard. I would guess its someone from C-sec or possibly even Bailey found him/her
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The issue with there being no long-range SOS first appears with the Cerberus Coup. The Normandy (and every other ship around the area) was completely unaware of an issue until they were attempting to dock... and then only got word of what was happening from Thane. Why are you mentioning Thane? You know Bailey sends a message to all ships in the area. Maybe so, but there's no way to know if they made any effort or not. He did say there were casualties I do believe someone on the Citadel does find Shepard. I would guess its someone from C-sec or possibly even Bailey found him/her On approaching the Citadel, it's a direct message from Thane that gets through to the Normandy (if Thane is alive, of course)... not Bailey. There is no indication that Thane's message is a general distress call. Prior to that, Joker's attempts to hail the docks are just met with dead air. No sense of any other ships radioing among themselves saying they're having trouble raising the docks officers... nothing. Despite it being a high-traffic area, it seems like the Normandy is the only ship at that time trying to dock with the Citadel(??) I believe he says the would have been "some casualties" - so, I'll rephrase - he's downplaying it so that people imagine there being almost no casualties (i.e. they don't mental picture any bodies lying about). In the Citadel Coup sequence, there are some bodies lying about. I'm saying that there would likely have been a lot of bodies lying about after a battle that resulted in the complete capture of the Citadel by the Reapers... with the population of the Citadel being "millions" of people. I don't think it's unrealistic to suggest that The source of some of the bodies in the ending sequences were citizens of the Citadel itself. The game officially ends in all instances without showing Shepard being found... People can extrapolate (i.e. imagine) whatever they wish beyond that point.
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Post by themikefest on Sept 26, 2016 17:40:27 GMT
On approaching the Citadel, it's a direct message from Thane that gets through to the Normandy (if Thane is alive, of course)... not Bailey. There is no indication that Thane's message is a general distress call. Prior to that, Joker's attempts to hail the docks are just met with dead air. No sense of any other ships radioing among themselves saying they're having trouble raising the docks officers... nothing. Despite it being a high-traffic area, it seems like the Normandy is the only ship at that time trying to dock with the Citadel(??) Bailey sends a message for all incoming ships. His voice can be heard when Joker uses emergency channels. He even mentions Cerberus. I'm sure other ships did the same and heard Bailey
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Post by straykat on Sept 26, 2016 17:41:23 GMT
If someone on the Citadel doesn't find him, then I think it's perfectly within reason that Jack or Miranda would hop in a ship and search. They're the ones looking up at the Citadel, in high ems/Destroy.
edit: Could've sworn someone even made a minigame out of this, with Jack. lol. It was 2d
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2016 17:48:55 GMT
On approaching the Citadel, it's a direct message from Thane that gets through to the Normandy (if Thane is alive, of course)... not Bailey. There is no indication that Thane's message is a general distress call. Prior to that, Joker's attempts to hail the docks are just met with dead air. No sense of any other ships radioing among themselves saying they're having trouble raising the docks officers... nothing. Despite it being a high-traffic area, it seems like the Normandy is the only ship at that time trying to dock with the Citadel(??) Bailey sends a message for all incoming ships. His voice can be heard when Joker uses emergency channels. He even mentions Cerberus. I'm sure other ships did the same and heard Bailey Random video from YouTube: Starting a 5:00 I'm certainly not hearing an "all ship distress signal." Conversely, normal ATC chatter:
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Post by straykat on Sept 26, 2016 17:52:12 GMT
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Post by themikefest on Sept 26, 2016 18:16:58 GMT
I'm certainly not hearing an "all ship distress signal." Ok. How about listening to what Bailey says if Thane is not in ME3? So?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2016 19:33:11 GMT
I'm certainly not hearing an "all ship distress signal." Ok. How about listening to what Bailey says if Thane is not in ME3? So? Oh for crying out loud... I already said IF THANE IS ALIVE. Citadel air space is, what, 2,000 km out (per Avina in ME1) and according to the ME1 Codex handles hundreds of ships each day... so busy that Wong wanted to report on controller stress. My point is that with so many ships trying to raise the controllers each minute, there is no way the Normandy would have gotten so close in with dead air without hearing cross chatter from numerous other ships trying to raise the tower. Since, in war time, many of those ships would be Alliance or belonging to the other council fleets, some response from those ships would have been in progress long before the Normandy even arrived on the scene. Even if you go with the Thane is dead scenario and it's Bailey sending the signal... there is no way that the Normandy would be the only ship responding to it... and even before he could send out a signal... a lot of ships would be out there wondering why such a busy tower suddenly went black.
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