You know....the constant complaining towards Sara's face is getting to be kinda offensive.

I don't think you can really generalize that male gamers want to be hot guys and female gamers want to be average looking. I'm female and I like my character to be way more attractive than me. The thing I don't like is when they hypersexualize female characters, but those are separate issues. This is why I'm a big fan of the new Lara Croft, she's still very attractive but not oversexualized like before.

As far as Sara goes, I think calling her 'ugly' is an overreaction but there is something weird about her face to me, especially animation-wise. I doubt this is something BioWare did on purpose though. For some reason I think they just have a harder time modeling some female characters faces than males. Diana Allers looked similarly weird.

I mean I'm not saying female characters don't get more criticism about their appearance than males do, because that's definitely true. But I think in the case of Sara there is some cause for criticism (although a lot of people take it way too far). I don't get the complaints about Peebee, though. Aside from that early clip of her grinning, which admittedly looks a little goofy, I think she looks great.

Also, have there been any screenshots/clips of Sara where she's NOT grinning? Because from what I've seen it looks like she has a constant rigor mortis like smile and I think that adds to the weirdness I get from her.

Bland as in zero character. Just a sort of blankness. Nominally attractive, but utterly forgettable.

I don't know you.  You're a stranger on the internet.  Why would I need to shoot you (gun on my avatar, notwithstanding).  I'm interested in discussion and debate that leads to truth, not a battle where one side or the other tries to prove who's superior.  That would be profitless.

My post started with the words "Could it be."  That means, I asked a question or posed a possible theory that yes indeed might not be correct.  I'm okay with that.  But you just had to choose to criticize how I use language rather than address what I actually said.  You don't like my style?  No worries.  Please put me on your ignore list, and try to be more civil toward strangers on the internet in the future.  Please and thank you.

Yeah, let's not get into original recipe PeeBee.

Just to be clearer, I'm saying that the photoshopped PeeBee version is conceptually bad.The artist is competent, but has no design vision.

Well I don't know what to think anymore. On one screen Peebee looks fine, on the other she looks weird, same with Sara, same with Scott and even with Cora. I think we will be sure how they end up looking when we play the actual game.

Hey, if he does a serious version I'll give it due consideration. I'm just judging what I can see.

And of course you'd like that one better. We wouldn't be doing this if I thought your taste was any good.

A small changes to Sara's eyes and she almost looks like a real person. On the right side she is a bit Lara Croft-y now. But Sara is getting more beautiful and starting to have better eyes with each iteration:


Scott looks good in both Cinematic Trailer:



But he seems like a bit different or a not so polished character in the Lexi trailer, at least his eyes are off somehow:



If they improve or polish the eyes to the same level as were in the cinematic trailers then we will get quite nice looking characters i think.

Edit: there are images under the spoiler field, maybe not so spoilery.

Grinning weirdo is a fair assessment I reckon: having said that, she's kind of growing on me.


This guy however; he's gotten worse with every new bit of footage: it's like he's been eating the toxic food on 2175 Aeia, but instead of eating away at his brain, it's been degrading his dome lol.

Can't wait to roll the character creator, let's just say that much 

See, the way I look at it is this is the face(s) of the game to the general gaming public: and I want this game to be a resounding success...so it's kind of weird they managed to design protagonists that look far worse (obviously in default form, and this is my subjective opinon not a fact at all) than Sheploo and Femshep (defaults).

That's not to say they both don't have some redeeming features etc, but the marketing/promotional point of view is where I see this hurting them the most.  We want ME:A to sell like hotcakes, means more DLC and more chance of a sequel - just look at poor old Deus Ex (this makes me cry a bit), and the now probably canned sequel to Mankind Divided, no franchise is above getting the chop these days.

Obviously, this is only a small cog in a big engine, but sometimes these things really do affect the sales/vibe of a game in this online PR frenzied world we live in




In terms of the actual game itself, I truly think they made very generic protagonists to even nudge us to use the CC: according to various insiders it's quite extensive and has many tricks up it's sleeve.  Maybe not dick sliders like Conan: Exiles....but I'm hoping for at least options for hair poofiness or something.

I literally have tears in my eyes when I think about this, as I personally absolutely loved Mankind Divided (and HR/The Original before that), and this hits home big time.  It's like if Dragon Age, Mass Effect or The Witcher got mothballed for me......I'm not sure if I could handle another one of my favourite franchises getting put into cold storage.

Square-Enix putting their balls in the seemingly 'easy money' court of Marvel games is a cheap move, and shows a lack of faith in the artisitc quality of their devs... wish they didn't own the IP, as Eidos could just roll to somewhere else for publishing (or self publish via Fig or KS).

In the end, I think we all just want ME:A to be a massive success

True dat...

Also: Yea, I hope SE burns for taking away one of my all time favorite game series - and practically the whole cyberpunk genre (until 2070 comes out) with it, as far as the AAA market is concerned. May they loose billions funding shitty superhero games... I will never buy another one of their titles - not even the FF7 remake.

Personally I think Eidos should look to CDPR, I'm sure they could use the expertise...

It's shameful... and people wonder why more and more gamers are cynical about the games industry and it's "golden future".