Andromeda Initiatives Purpose - Why the hate?

For the most part, they feel that way because they really wanted Mass Effect 4.

Lets just put it out there. We are going to Andromeda so that Bioware never has to talk about or take a stand on the endings of ME3 ever again. Does that matter? Yes a bit, but i don't care enough to engage on that point. Why is there a new Mass Effect game? Because even though the trilogy did f up at certain points it has to much good stuff to throw away entirely, and now they can start fresh with all the good things we like and add new things to it. Had this been a new franchise with the same premise it would've been awesome, but now for some, its kind of lackluster. I get why people dislike it, i just don't feel like its a big deal with this new start.

This is probably because every bit of footage released has a BS "Its totes pre-alpha don't worry about the bugs or weird shit. we fixed it so fucking hard, but we won't show you it fixed" and the only way to show off proper exploration and whatnot is in like a 15-20+ minute video.

But in any extended look video we've seen we got the above excuse for why the game looks janky.

If it was up to the marketers, they'd probably have a couple different half hour long videos out and more than one or two proper full length mission videos shown off. Maybe even a handful of streams mixed in. The fact that the only "look at this" footage they've really released is highly edited 3-5 minute videos is a concern. And even those videos come with a "Don't pay attention to the dumb AI. We swear we made it smart" right after it's released.

What would be the point of building more Arks during ME3, anyway? If the concept works it's already worked since the first batch are away. Saving 20K more people is trivial.

It'd be different if they didn't have a Crucible project. And if the first batch of Arks weren't away, then you'd want to pursue both projects unless an Ark is very expensive relative to the Crucible. And if you've got any leftover resources after completing the Crucible, then you can build more Arks with that surplus.

Are any of those things true in ME3?

No.

The argument here is that if these kind of realistic problems bother you, you should've left the Mass Effect series a long time ago. Probably at the exact moment you opened the Codex and read what the mass effect actually is. If not that, it should've been when you read up on how humans almost literally went from space cavemen to rivalling the council species overnight.

But you didn't. You chose to ignore this. You have to suspend disbelief all throughout the series, because everything is literally space magic. Everything in this game series is impossible or makes little sense. It may look good on the surface, but on the details it's a mess. And that's not just on the technology part or the physics part, but also the alien biology. It's all a mess in the details. 

But no one besides Korgans, who totally care about colinizing other worlds when they don't have a cured genophage, and Asari, who suck, who actually organized it in the Milky Way gets any kind of a pay off in any way.

Its like giving a bunch of money to a kickstarter that says "We'll have a never ending water bottle in 2178"

Exactly.

How many conversations were there about refugees, evacuations, etc?

Yes, this is a retcon.  Bioware frakked up the Milky Way with their "artistic" ending so bad the entire setting was wrecked.  It was unavoidable.


 But that doesn't make it a good retcon.  It's clumsy, it messes with the entire power dynamic of the Citadel Council, and the project itself is insane.  And I'm going to call them on this.

Reading that post, I know wish there was a "Deadpool" outfit for Shepard.

THe game would make so much more sense, then!

There are precisely two (2) reasons that make sense for the AI.

1. Run from the Reapers yo. Doesn't mean the PR department's going to tell you that, but that's what it's really about.

2. Something or someone from Andromeda reached out somehow and drew the expedition there for some reason. As you can tell by the large number of blanks, this is a placeholder explanation. It doesn't have to be made apparent in this game and it could be good or it could be shit. We don't know.

And that is that. "Exploration", "because they felt like it, man" or any other variation thereof is just silly. That doesn't mean they're not going to make the most of it and expore now that they're here but let's not get carried away.

As for BioWare's motivation for keeping this under wraps, there you have more to speculate on (and less chance of getting a straight answer). If it's the first reason, distance from the trilogy from the trilogy and not overburdening potential newcomers with lore they want to get away from seems like a good bet. If it's the second, who knows?

My Shepard knew about it. The project people asked if she would be interested in joining. She said no, but suggested asking Alec Ryder if he would be interested. This happened before the events of ME1

Once the reapers showed up, she didn't give any thought about the ships leaving the galaxy. All she cared about was destroying the reapers

Bingo... Does Bioware need a "reason" then?  You reserve the right not to give me one for your behavior... so, goose and gander, they shouldn't need one writing a game based on any premise they want... silly or not, genius or not.  And I can certainly be of the opinion that your desire to "call them out" before even knowing what that story is really all about (i.e before the game is released) to be as silly as the apparent premise behind the AI... and I do.  You're being silly.