Andromeda Initiatives Purpose - Why the hate?

Are you asking someone in the 1200's, or someone now?

Exploring Mars is ridiculous in 1200's when so much of Earth remained uncharted and just as intriguing in the 1200's - and far more accessible.

The investors could be going to Andromeda themselves I guess.

The extranet doesn't use quantum entanglement.  Earth only has a "handful" of them in ME3.  In ME2, EDI implies that even TIM has only the one pair between Normandy and his base of operations.  I'm not sure I would say, given current issues and how differently those issues are being represented in various areas, that 21st century Earth is "totally in sync" - but you're entitled to your opinion on that, of course.

As I've said though, it's merely unreasonable to hinge the "validity" of the AI's explanation on whether or not it was broadcast to the population in ME1-3.  We KNOW it is a retcon and any explanation for it has to be a retcon.  It's not ever going to be mentioned in the Trilogy because it's a story that Bioware never anticipated writing.  ME3 was planned as the end of a Trilogy and ME was planned from the start to be a Trilogy only. 

People should be saying the same thing about any exploration "initiative" being planned even if it's destination was within the Milky Way Galaxy or even if it just involved opening up a new Relay to explore a previously unexplored area of the galaxy... Why wasn't it in the news in ME3?  Why wasn't Shepard aware of it?  (He/she flits around relays like a hummingbird - shouldn't he/she be interested in know when a new one becomes available?)  Why wasn't Hackett or Anderson or the Council at least aware of it?  If aware of it, why didn't they mentioned it to Shepard since there might be some great resources needed for the war in that new area of Milky Way space that just opened up?

Either you put the exploration aspect of ME4 on the same level as a drive to the grocery store (in which case it wouldn't be exploring) or it should have been in the news in ME1-3.  So, the AI should have been news................. It doesn't change the fact that it or any other exploration venture within the Galaxy just wasn't in the news in ME1-3.

Nuance ; reapers are supposed to be unknow.




You wouldnt be so affirmative.

We all know the real reason for AI, but it seems a taboo. I will try to be a bit more constructive.

Cyonam for exemple and many others, have solid argumentation against AI. Cost dont worth especially milky way is far more accessible and almost unexplored.

It is unlikely to be a human initiative who is far to be the richest and most tech advanced race. Imagine ; a few decade ago humans were not aware of mass effect and in a generation they would be able to develop a transgalatic engine ? hmmm

If I try to find acceptable explanation for all these contractions, I think I need to call on unknow fact, forgotten secrets of the past or such things.

One of the possible way is to exploit Mars archive. It is a potential source for any kind of informations and technologies, proteans or even older.

Advantage of Mars, is it can explain why AI is a human project. ODSY tech could fairly not be of human origin but proteans or older. For question why proteans didn't use it, I would answer ; Perhaps they did. More probably they didn't for the same reasons lot of people here gave. It dont worth ... until reapers attack and proteans had no more time or ressource to launch a project they were on an other hand technically able to lead.

The others reasons why it is a human project and why it was able to find a private financial support is ... As plot we can imagine a secret Cerberus influence, why not some project leaders are really a cerberus agent with a conspiration to destroy all arks but the humans one.

Reaper treat could have be known before ME1, with Mars archive. Mars archives could also contain informations, whatever it could be, that makes Andromeda especially attractive.

It is just a quick attempt for possible explanations.

What is sure is there no credible reasons with information bioware gave to go Andromeda. Imo best way to make that credible is to exploit dark/unknow part of the trilogy in order to avoid incoherence and contradiction. Mars archive have an formidable potential to deal with this problem, and is a good explanation why AI is a human project. (you can forget Cerberus and TIM it is just a disgression about an additional plot ... Were you aware SAM have common tech with EDI and secret protocole to serve Cerberus ?)

The only thing wrong about that is that the council only has jurisdiction in council controlled space. So if you went outside council controlled space, theres no law about using/activating mass relays. Its like international waters. So unless an associate treaty were signed by humans, batarians, quarians, Krogen, geth etc with the council. Theres no way to enforce this. And even all these races don't control the entire mass relay network. 

uh oh...

"Just turn your brain off and go with it"  

I don't hate Andromeda Initiatives Purpose actually this is wise decision to give Mankind and others from Milky way chance to survive if Shepard and Alliance armada lost war. I hate logic to send into Andromeda Last hope of Milky way in unarmed ships but from other side solders of Andromeda Initiative are Armed to the teeth...

Well we're going to Andromeda because...Mass Effect 3.No other reason and unfortunately,there is nothing we can do about it

What would have worked perfectly is if they had already laid the ground work for Andromeda during the development of ME3. Correct me if I am wrong but didn't Bioware already plan for a continuation of the franchise even before ME3 was out?
Anyway, they could have solved the Andromeda by including it in ME3 or (by making a DLC):
Have the Andromeda Initiative be in progress since 2176 as we know it , have its motives already be part exploration and expansion,part contigency in case of a galactic extinction event. So the Reapers obviously arrive, the project has to leave like ASAP! Which would explain the unfinished Nexus and whatnot. Have the Arks leave during the events of ME3 and continue with the story as planned.

Boom! The new game is about the survivors who managed to flee the Reapers.

They should have planned ahead.but they didn't...

I don't recall them saying they intended to stop either, just that the story would span across three games.  This is a new story in the same universe.

Yeah, no, this is an extremely flimsy argument.

We are in the process of sending people to Mars now, and we haven't even finished exploring Earth to this day. We've explored less than 5% of our own oceans, and that's 70% of the planet.

I don't buy the "it's illogical to explore somewhere else when we haven't finished exploring here" narrative. It's objectively wrong in our legitimate reality. 

But their ability to travel to Andromeda can be explained. We don't know the details as of now, no, but it's going to be a part of the universe. 

We cannot go to Proxima. It's not feasibly something we can consider. Andromeda can be feasible or not based on how it's written. 

The point I was making, though, is that humans do not give a fuck if we haven't finished exploring one place before moving on to another.