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Post by Cyonan on Mar 8, 2017 1:05:48 GMT
The reason not to go is that it would have an exceedingly high cost that wouldn't give us anything extra over simply exploring other areas of the Milky Way which would be vastly cheaper. It would actually be like skipping Alpha/Proxima Centauri and trying to colonize other Earth-like planets that are 100 times further. There's no real reason to do it other than "let's go there for the sake of going there" over simply going to Alpha/Proxima Centauri which would be a much more feasible thing to do. They have people to explore the milky way. Besides, once we get to Alpha/proxima it's not like we're gonna stop expanding. This isn't about costs or exploring the milky way. The Andromeda Initiative is privately funded. Like I said, there is no solid good reason not to go. Intergalactic travel. Something that as far as we know hasn't been attempted. It's an incredible feat. There are civilian corporations like mars one funding missions to get to the red planet. It's not like we're taking the whole milky way. It being privately funded makes it even more about costs. Rich people don't just hand over billions of dollars for the sake of exploration if they aren't getting something in return. Going to Mars is going to be far more profitable than going to Andromeda considering it's not going to take us 600 years to get there. Once we reached the Centauri systems we would continue to expend yes, but going to Andromeda is like skipping those systems and aiming for ones significantly further out despite drastically increased costs with no additional benefit for doing it. That's the biggest problem. It's not that there is absolutely no reason to go to Andromeda, it's that there is no reason to expend the extra money to go there instead of the unexplored parts of the Milky Way. Thus far they have not told us anything about why Andromeda is a better destination other than "let's go there because it's there and we should explore it". As I stated earlier, have we considered the possibility that the Council vetoed large-scale exploration in the Milky Way to avoid Rachnis 2.0? But that Andromeda being so far away, they had no problem with the expedition? Not saying it explains everything, but it would answer why the Initiative wasn't targeted at, say, the Terminus Systems or Perseus Veil. The fact that Andromeda wasn't being genocided every 50k years might also mean it has a higher concentration of habitable (or ''habitable'' on long-range scanners) planets than the Milky Way, which would give another motivation. We really can't judge until the actual game releases, I think, and we get our hands on all the info. It might be something, assuming that the council actually got the final say as to where they could or couldn't go. Otherwise, the Council doesn't rule over all of the Milky Way and they could have easily told the Council to go shove it and gone exploring somewhere outside of Citadel space. According to the information we have right now though, the initiative really doesn't make a whole lot of sense outside of the obvious reason that it's purely for the game story because of the clusterfuck that became the Milky Way at the end of ME3. Which I can accept that even if the in-game reasons still end up not making any sense. As I noted before, Mass Effect has always had a case of things only making sense if you don't stop to think about it for too long.
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Post by Iakus on Mar 8, 2017 1:06:58 GMT
How much did the US government spend on their space program to go to the moon? what did the moon offer in returns? EXPLORATION ...again, not the main reason. They just wanted to beat Russia to it, which they did. Plus, the Moon is close by. It's not like we went from orbiting the Earth straight to Proxima Centauri BECAUSE IT'S THERE!
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Post by SKAR on Mar 8, 2017 1:08:53 GMT
They have people to explore the milky way. Besides, once we get to Alpha/proxima it's not like we're gonna stop expanding. This isn't about costs or exploring the milky way. The Andromeda Initiative is privately funded. Like I said, there is no solid good reason not to go. Intergalactic travel. Something that as far as we know hasn't been attempted. It's an incredible feat. There are civilian corporations like mars one funding missions to get to the red planet. It's not like we're taking the whole milky way. I agree. It's not like the premise is that the ONLY exploration being done anywhere is to Andromeda. It's safe to assume that there are probably several other ventures of varying sizes constantly continuing to explore various sectors of the Milky Way... they just are not the subject of this particular Mass Effect story. The group that decided to go to Andromeda is the subject of this story. People keep citing the costs... but for a whole galaxy of 60 billion people (and that's just what's listed in the codex) and the amount of economic activity generated by that sort of population and a galaxy full of known planets with resources to exploit, the cost of building 4 arks and one base ship to house, in total 100,000 people isn't all that big... nor is a venture that size likely to attract the attention of the entire galaxy. Shepard's crucible (a Prothean weapon of mass destruction) didn't even initially attract the attention of the council races he was trying to enlist to support it. Yet, they were able to, quite easily, build it in a matter of a few weeks in the middle of a war (when tons of resources are going into just fighting various battles around the galalxy). They were also able to build it right at Arcturus... and neither the Reapers nor Cerberus every found out it's location. I like this human, he understands.
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Post by SKAR on Mar 8, 2017 1:13:28 GMT
They have people to explore the milky way. Besides, once we get to Alpha/proxima it's not like we're gonna stop expanding. This isn't about costs or exploring the milky way. The Andromeda Initiative is privately funded. Like I said, there is no solid good reason not to go. Intergalactic travel. Something that as far as we know hasn't been attempted. It's an incredible feat. There are civilian corporations like mars one funding missions to get to the red planet. It's not like we're taking the whole milky way. It being privately funded makes it even more about costs. Rich people don't just hand over billions of dollars for the sake of exploration if they aren't getting something in return. Going to Mars is going to be far more profitable than going to Andromeda considering it's not going to take us 600 years to get there. Once we reached the Centauri systems we would continue to expend yes, but going to Andromeda is like skipping those systems and aiming for ones significantly further out despite drastically increased costs with no additional benefit for doing it. That's the biggest problem. It's not that there is absolutely no reason to go to Andromeda, it's that there is no reason to expend the extra money to go there instead of the unexplored parts of the Milky Way. Thus far they have not told us anything about why Andromeda is a better destination other than "let's go there because it's there and we should explore it". As I stated earlier, have we considered the possibility that the Council vetoed large-scale exploration in the Milky Way to avoid Rachnis 2.0? But that Andromeda being so far away, they had no problem with the expedition? Not saying it explains everything, but it would answer why the Initiative wasn't targeted at, say, the Terminus Systems or Perseus Veil. The fact that Andromeda wasn't being genocided every 50k years might also mean it has a higher concentration of habitable (or ''habitable'' on long-range scanners) planets than the Milky Way, which would give another motivation. We really can't judge until the actual game releases, I think, and we get our hands on all the info. It might be something, assuming that the council actually got the final say as to where they could or couldn't go. Otherwise, the Council doesn't rule over all of the Milky Way and they could have easily told the Council to go shove it and gone exploring somewhere outside of Citadel space. According to the information we have right now though, the initiative really doesn't make a whole lot of sense outside of the obvious reason that it's purely for the game story because of the clusterfuck that became the Milky Way at the end of ME3. Which I can accept that even if the in-game reasons still end up not making any sense. As I noted before, Mass Effect has always had a case of things only making sense if you don't stop to think about it for too long. Skipping? There are still people in the milky way. As far as we are concerned, we re going to explore and colonize. That's worth an investment. Look at Elon Musk and spaceX. You say there is no reason to go yet there is no reason not to go and the reasons to go are legit. This is like star trek.
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Post by General Mahad on Mar 8, 2017 1:18:46 GMT
The logistics, time frame, objective, and the lack of urgency (Reapers) makes it convoluted.
If the AI was launched because of the Reapers or if the colonists feel they are being oppressed/looked down upon by the Council/Cerberus/Alliance/Union/Hierarchy/Republics/Empire/Hegemony/Fleet and they want to leave ASAP, that would at least give a reason for this bonkers expedition and I think it would have been a far more logical reason than simply, "Let's take the next 600 years and use many, many resources to attempt to make it to an unknown and likely hostile Galaxy so we can find resources instead of looking for resources in the largely unexplored Milky Way for a mere minor percentage of that time and materiel."
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Post by Cyonan on Mar 8, 2017 1:26:00 GMT
Skipping? There are still people in the milky way. As far as we are concerned, we re going to explore and colonize. That's worth an investment. Look at Elon Musk and spaceX. You say there is no reason to go yet there is no reason not to go and the reasons to go are legit. This is like star trek. As I said before: Elon Musk stands to profit from going to Mars far better than going to Andromeda would. Exploration and Colonization is not worth the money to an investor when they will not be even communicating with the Milky Way for hundreds if not thousands of years. Odds are going to be that the investor is long dead before any return on that investment comes back, even if they're a longer lived species like a Krogan or Asari. There being people still exploring the Milky Way doesn't mean that it's all tapped out and there is nothing left for another exploration project, especially one suited for long voyages considering how dependent we are in the original trilogy on the mass relays to get around. In Star Trek the Enterprise was typically exploring the unexplored areas inside the Federation, which is basically what I'm saying the Initiative should have done rather than fly all the way out to the Delta quadrant simply because it's there. The one ship that did go to the Delta quadrant, Voyager, was only there because of an accident that resulted in them being stranded there. The series is about them trying to get back home rather than colonizing the area. In Deep Space 9, the addition of the wormhole removes all of the problems in traveling incredible distances. I'm all for exploration and if we were heading out into deep space I'd be one of the first to sign up for it, but from a logistics point of view it still doesn't make a whole lot of sense to go to Andromeda unless there is something there that we can't find in the Milky Way that's valuable. This isn't just a little bit further than we've ever been before or even weeks or months further. This is a massive one way trip, and it takes about 6 Human lifespans to even get there.
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Post by jastall on Mar 8, 2017 1:30:03 GMT
As I stated earlier, have we considered the possibility that the Council vetoed large-scale exploration in the Milky Way to avoid Rachnis 2.0? But that Andromeda being so far away, they had no problem with the expedition? Not saying it explains everything, but it would answer why the Initiative wasn't targeted at, say, the Terminus Systems or Perseus Veil. The fact that Andromeda wasn't being genocided every 50k years might also mean it has a higher concentration of habitable (or ''habitable'' on long-range scanners) planets than the Milky Way, which would give another motivation. We really can't judge until the actual game releases, I think, and we get our hands on all the info. It might be something, assuming that the council actually got the final say as to where they could or couldn't go. Otherwise, the Council doesn't rule over all of the Milky Way and they could have easily told the Council to go shove it and gone exploring somewhere outside of Citadel space. According to the information we have right now though, the initiative really doesn't make a whole lot of sense outside of the obvious reason that it's purely for the game story because of the clusterfuck that became the Milky Way at the end of ME3. Which I can accept that even if the in-game reasons still end up not making any sense. As I noted before, Mass Effect has always had a case of things only making sense if you don't stop to think about it for too long. I strongly doubt the Council didn't know about this project. For one thing (unless it's Bioware using artistic license in the cutscenes/trailers) it seems that at least some parts of it are carried out in the Sol system itself, that would be damn near impossible to hide, same with 100 000 people deciding to go on this sort of voyage, to say nothing of the fact that the project has been a thing for almost 10 years when it launches. I mean, sure, the Initiative can just disregard the Council, but that's unlikely to end well for them. The Citadel can get pretty adamant when it comes to enforcing its rules, and it's possible that the project had the Council's financial backing as well, so the project couldn't advance without the Council's blessing. We need more information, I agree. But that's coming with the game, not before. Perhaps we'll get some clues when the early access begins.
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They have people to explore the milky way. Besides, once we get to Alpha/proxima it's not like we're gonna stop expanding. This isn't about costs or exploring the milky way. The Andromeda Initiative is privately funded. Like I said, there is no solid good reason not to go. Intergalactic travel. Something that as far as we know hasn't been attempted. It's an incredible feat. There are civilian corporations like mars one funding missions to get to the red planet. It's not like we're taking the whole milky way. It being privately funded makes it even more about costs. Rich people don't just hand over billions of dollars for the sake of exploration if they aren't getting something in return. Going to Mars is going to be far more profitable than going to Andromeda considering it's not going to take us 600 years to get there. Once we reached the Centauri systems we would continue to expend yes, but going to Andromeda is like skipping those systems and aiming for ones significantly further out despite drastically increased costs with no additional benefit for doing it. That's the biggest problem. It's not that there is absolutely no reason to go to Andromeda, it's that there is no reason to expend the extra money to go there instead of the unexplored parts of the Milky Way. Thus far they have not told us anything about why Andromeda is a better destination other than "let's go there because it's there and we should explore it". As I stated earlier, have we considered the possibility that the Council vetoed large-scale exploration in the Milky Way to avoid Rachnis 2.0? But that Andromeda being so far away, they had no problem with the expedition? Not saying it explains everything, but it would answer why the Initiative wasn't targeted at, say, the Terminus Systems or Perseus Veil. The fact that Andromeda wasn't being genocided every 50k years might also mean it has a higher concentration of habitable (or ''habitable'' on long-range scanners) planets than the Milky Way, which would give another motivation. We really can't judge until the actual game releases, I think, and we get our hands on all the info. It might be something, assuming that the council actually got the final say as to where they could or couldn't go. Otherwise, the Council doesn't rule over all of the Milky Way and they could have easily told the Council to go shove it and gone exploring somewhere outside of Citadel space. According to the information we have right now though, the initiative really doesn't make a whole lot of sense outside of the obvious reason that it's purely for the game story because of the clusterfuck that became the Milky Way at the end of ME3. Which I can accept that even if the in-game reasons still end up not making any sense. As I noted before, Mass Effect has always had a case of things only making sense if you don't stop to think about it for too long. I beg to differ, there are rich people on this planet to fritter away money on crazy ventures all the time. There are, tragically, also many of them who fritter away fortunes on horse races, gambling, drugs, expensive hobbies, hookers, etc., etc., etc. Why build a bunch if islands in the ocean off Dubai when we haven't built on every scrap of land on earth yet? Certainly, it would be cheaper to just build more tall buildings in the desert... and less risky too... what's going to happen if there's a typhoon or earthquake? What about the concern for Vanatu (a natural island slowly being inundated due to rising water levels). Certainly building a ski hill in the desert isn't the most lucrative use for that rich person's money. why not invest to develop a top-notch resort in an area that isn't 110-degrees in the shade? I don't see why we should just expect the people in the Mass Effect universe to be any more "logical" than people on earth IRL. In addition, I think going to Mars has a huge potential to just represent a huge sink hole for it's investors. If you're going to wind up just paying taxes with that money... why not throw it away on making yourself famous instead? Sheer ego drives a lot of investments... not just prospective profits.
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Post by SKAR on Mar 8, 2017 1:41:57 GMT
Skipping? There are still people in the milky way. As far as we are concerned, we re going to explore and colonize. That's worth an investment. Look at Elon Musk and spaceX. You say there is no reason to go yet there is no reason not to go and the reasons to go are legit. This is like star trek. As I said before: Elon Musk stands to profit from going to Mars far better than going to Andromeda would. Exploration and Colonization is not worth the money to an investor when they will not be even communicating with the Milky Way for hundreds if not thousands of years. Odds are going to be that the investor is long dead before any return on that investment comes back, even if they're a longer lived species like a Krogan or Asari. There being people still exploring the Milky Way doesn't mean that it's all tapped out and there is nothing left for another exploration project, especially one suited for long voyages considering how dependent we are in the original trilogy on the mass relays to get around. In Star Trek the Enterprise was typically exploring the unexplored areas inside the Federation, which is basically what I'm saying the Initiative should have done rather than fly all the way out to the Delta quadrant simply because it's there. The one ship that did go to the Delta quadrant, Voyager, was only there because of an accident that resulted in them being stranded there. The series is about them trying to get back home rather than colonizing the area. In Deep Space 9, the addition of the wormhole removes all of the problems in traveling incredible distances. I'm all for exploration and if we were heading out into deep space I'd be one of the first to sign up for it, but from a logistics point of view it still doesn't make a whole lot of sense to go to Andromeda unless there is something there that we can't find in the Milky Way that's valuable. This isn't just a little bit further than we've ever been before or even weeks or months further. This is a massive one way trip, and it takes about 6 Human lifespans to even get there. What I meant was that there are people left in the MW to explore it. We CAN profit by exploring and colonizing in Andromeda and sometime in the future we can establish a route back. Not worth an investor's money?!?! crankycoder.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/What-Meme-13.jpg
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Post by Cyonan on Mar 8, 2017 2:16:02 GMT
Okay, let's assume I'm some rich guy in the Mass Effect universe. Human life span is expanded and about 150 from what I remember. Go ahead and convince me of where the profit is for me in giving up billions of my own credits for a project that will be at best about 25% of the way to where it's going by the time I'm dead. Even for an Asari, 600 years is a not insignificant percentage of their life span just to get there before they can begin setting up the operation and sending anything back which is another 600 years unless we invent a faster method of getting there.
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Post by Ivory Samoan on Mar 8, 2017 2:17:35 GMT
Im starting to get tilted by all the people saying that the Ai makes no sense and that the purpose for it existing is poorly thought out. I honestly don't understand why people are saying this. The purpose, at least on an official level, is for exploration and colonisation. BOTH of these were primary reasons for expeditions in Human history and will be primary reasons for us to leave Earth at some point in our far future so how the fuck does it not make sense for the Ai to exist within the ME universe? I don't understand why so many people feel as though Cerberus must be involved or that there HAS to be some ulterior motive behind Ai's existence. Believe it or not, but exploration and colonisation are good enough reasons each on their own for an expedition like this. Not everything has to be some super secret plot at universal domination. I like your vibe OP, but I would back the farm that there's ulterior motives going down for sure: too many small things point to dodgy stuff in the AI (which I think is a great premise for the game, since it seems a little haphazard that races like the Krogan would jump on this for the base reasons...). I would actually lmao too if Kai Leng's twin brother, Guy Leng, is stowed aboard the Nexus for a new round of Cerberus shenanigans
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Post by armass81 on Mar 8, 2017 2:22:27 GMT
Yes, one of the more intresting questions will be indeed who ponied up the dough for this trip, and more importantly why.
Part of me dreads, well never know, it just happened.
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Well, maybe the AI just wants to beat XYZ company to Andromeda so it's their names that go down in history as the ones who proved that intergalactic travel was possible. Possible! I would take that for a reason... it's not a much better reason to be honest, but it would be something. Maybe that's even the case, we don't know yet... for now, though, no tangible reason has been given. I'm glad you seem to be happy with that reason but I'm at a loss as to why, logically, you would be. One rich guy deciding to mount an expedition to Andromeda for the sake of becoming famous isn't an OK reason, but somehow having two of them racing the other towards the same objective for the same reason makes it an OK reason??? Isn't the chance to profit still essentially zero and the costs are just doubled?
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Post by bryanky5 on Mar 8, 2017 2:26:32 GMT
Yes, one of the more intresting questions will be indeed who ponied up the dough for this trip, and more importantly why. Part of me dreads, well never know, it just happened. I have a feeling it might be an illusive man.
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Post by SKAR on Mar 8, 2017 2:32:58 GMT
Okay, let's assume I'm some rich guy in the Mass Effect universe. Human life span is expanded and about 150 from what I remember. Go ahead and convince me of where the profit is for me in giving up billions of my own credits for a project that will be at best about 25% of the way to where it's going by the time I'm dead. Even for an Asari, 600 years is a not insignificant percentage of their life span just to get there before they can begin setting up the operation and sending anything back which is another 600 years unless we invent a faster method of getting there. Funds go to exploration and colonization. I assume Jien Garson has gave a huge portion. This is her project.
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Post by themikefest on Mar 8, 2017 2:36:59 GMT
They were also able to build it right at Arcturus... and neither the Reapers nor Cerberus every found out it's location. Is that where it was built?
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Post by armass81 on Mar 8, 2017 3:00:50 GMT
Yes, one of the more intresting questions will be indeed who ponied up the dough for this trip, and more importantly why. Part of me dreads, well never know, it just happened. I have a feeling it might be an illusive man. Let's hope not, that guy already seems to be everywhere and also the richest man/being in the damn universe, for some reason.... MAC!
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Mar 8, 2017 3:24:09 GMT
If you accepted that Shepard did die at the start of ME2 and was actually revived from being brain-dead for 2 years then going to Andromeda is possible too, but I'd prefer it if BioWare only sparsely use these insane plot-jumps.
Speaking of "MAC". If this game fails they have to fire him. They have to. I won't stand anymore of his work because I could totally see this being so seemingly mismanaged beacuse of his leniency. He does not seem particularly concerned over how bad the development seems to have gone of this game in any of the interview in which he causally brings up that they're simply "polishing". whilist showing off unfinished assets for the third time at E3.
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They were also able to build it right at Arcturus... and neither the Reapers nor Cerberus every found out it's location. Is that where it was built? Well, at least they stage it before the attack at Arcturus. Hackett meets with Shepard on board the Normandy, gives his speech and leaves the ship. Afterward, Joker indicates that they are approaching the Sol Relay in 30 seconds. The Sol (Charon) Relay connects to Arcturus (since that's where Jon Grissom discovered it led). Hackett is escorting the Crucible with Shield fleet, but they are keeping it back, hidden from the battle until after the Citadel arms start opening. Once they open at Hackett declares that the Crucible is on the move, it is stated to be a mere 10 seconds before it is docked. It may well just be an oversight not to at least imply that the crucible came from farther away through some other relays first if it was built farther away, but I'm more inclined to believe they built it very near to earth right under the reapers noses. What better location that a place they thought they had already completely destroyed?
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Post by laughingbanana on Mar 8, 2017 3:51:30 GMT
It's logical to think that the most powerful Human-centric organization with seemingly limitless resources tried to embed themselves in some way to a project as massive and ambitious as the Andromeda Initiative, especially the project was launched during the time when Cerberus was still active. In fact, to say otherwise was just simply illogical, really. It's one of those 2+2 is 4 situations, like "duh, water is wet" kind of thing. I don't know why simply pointing this out would irritate people.
Unless Bioware wrote a retcon or something explaining why Cerberus didn't try.... I would love to hear their explanation for this if they chose this route.
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Post by jalis on Mar 8, 2017 4:02:27 GMT
The new mass effect take place in Andromeda, because it is not possible for Bioware it takes place in milky way without causing an other drama.
Logic and credible reasons are out of that, and lot of conjecture I have read are close to intellectual useless construction. It is very simple, who want to play will have to accept it... or be coherent and play something else.
Well, yes you can always argue about reason to go to Andromeda, except it will lead nowhere.
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Post by themikefest on Mar 8, 2017 4:26:14 GMT
Is that where it was built? Well, at least they stage it before the attack at Arcturus. Hackett meets with Shepard on board the Normandy, gives his speech and leaves the ship. Afterward, Joker indicates that they are approaching the Sol Relay in 30 seconds. The Sol (Charon) Relay connects to Arcturus (since that's where Jon Grissom discovered it led). Hackett is escorting the Crucible with Shield fleet, but they are keeping it back, hidden from the battle until after the Citadel arms start opening. Once they open at Hackett declares that the Crucible is on the move, it is stated to be a mere 10 seconds before it is docked. It may well just be an oversight not to at least imply that the crucible came from farther away through some other relays first if it was built farther away, but I'm more inclined to believe they built it very near to earth right under the reapers noses. What better location that a place they thought they had already completely destroyed? Just an assumption. The only one's who know for sure is Bioware
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Post by danishgambit on Mar 8, 2017 5:04:07 GMT
How many conversations were there about refugees, evacuations, etc? Yes, this is a retcon. Bioware frakked up the Milky Way with their "artistic" ending so bad the entire setting was wrecked. It was unavoidable. But that doesn't make it a good retcon. It's clumsy, it messes with the entire power dynamic of the Citadel Council, and the project itself is insane. And I'm going to call them on this. Exactly... everything about this game just screams: We have learned nothing, we still think we never did anything wrong with this franchise, and this new direction is absolutely the best and only way to go, because we say so... it's the arrogance of amateurs - backed by a team of professionals that make their asinine ideas work - that is oozing from everything we saw since ME3 wrapped up. It's not like they have any good alternatives apart from inventing time travel and redoing the ending. AI being a backup plan against the reapers seemed like the best idea to me but even so it's hard to believe that they could pull this off without TIM knowing and ultimately Harbinger knowing about it and screwing it up. It's just hard to believe that TIM could sneak spies into the Alliance, find out who the Shadow Broker was, (Wrex found out too but unless Mordin told him, which is pretty messed up, it doesn't make sense to me) start up an entire army and somehow beat Shepard to the punch every single time and not know about this. They made him too powerful for me to believe otherwise. The only reason they even found TIM's base in the first place was because Kai Lang let himself get tracked like an amateur. Still making AI a kind of backup plan seems like the only alternative even though, as one poster noted, might not be possible in the timeline.
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Post by Cyonan on Mar 8, 2017 5:41:44 GMT
Okay, let's assume I'm some rich guy in the Mass Effect universe. Human life span is expanded and about 150 from what I remember. Go ahead and convince me of where the profit is for me in giving up billions of my own credits for a project that will be at best about 25% of the way to where it's going by the time I'm dead. Even for an Asari, 600 years is a not insignificant percentage of their life span just to get there before they can begin setting up the operation and sending anything back which is another 600 years unless we invent a faster method of getting there. Funds go to exploration and colonization. I assume Jien Garson has gave a huge portion. This is her project. That doesn't explain what I as an investor would get out of giving my money to the project, which if the investor isn't a long lived species then they're going to have died of old age before the arks even get to Andromeda. Given how expensive the project would be I don't see a single person being able to fund it. Especially with experimental things like the ODSY drives they're using.
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Post by Sanunes on Mar 8, 2017 5:49:50 GMT
Funds go to exploration and colonization. I assume Jien Garson has gave a huge portion. This is her project. That doesn't explain what I as an investor would get out of giving my money to the project, which if the investor isn't a long lived species then they're going to have died of old age before the arks even get to Andromeda. Given how expensive the project would be I don't see a single person being able to fund it. Especially with experimental things like the ODSY drives they're using. I think there could be a few reasons, one thing we don't know is in the future how much that money is really worth. Billions is a lot right now, but people might be worth Trillions in the future. 1) The possibilities of incidental research to reuse in the Milky Way Galaxy. Such as using the ODSY drives to get to other areas for mining. 2) They hate their heirs and don't want them to see a penny of their fortune. 3) They are interested in the idea of going to Andromeda and are giving it patronage. Think Elon Musk who keeps investing in outlandish ideas and makes them a reality.
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