Remember the Prize: Jacob Discussion

I really don't envy her, but geez, that was epic level trolling she did!

Ohhh, you are so right! That mission makes me really salty towards her. There was a YouTube video of a modded Femshep taking a biotic swing at her and while it didn't fix everything, was very fitting to how a lot of people felt. I'd be a lot happier and far more satisfied though with Femshep giving her the "Reasons Why You Suck" speech and repeatedly reminding her of what a bitch she is.

For that matter, why would she do something so stupid and petty as that? Why would developers egg players on with that?

I'd place the blame on the writers Jacob. He's the one who chose to cheat, and imagine if Brynn knows their history. She might feel uncomfortable (though she seems as cool as a cucumber) considering her "opposition" is none other than Shepard. But I really don't like the idea of pitting these two women against each other when the fault is on the writers Jacob.

I never "officially" romanced Jacob because I saw the result in ME3 so I never bothered. One thing I'll say about his romance in ME2, though, is that I HATE that Shep's only chance to flirt with him is in, like, their second conversation. We've barely started the game, don't know much about anything, how the previous crew is doing and Shep is already throwing out "We'll bang, ok?" And then if that flirt is not taken there's no way to have a romance with him later in the game. Such crap.

Oh, my. I wasn't trying to scold anyone. It was more on how the situation was presented -- like they wanted to instigate conflict with Brynn rather than the person who started the mess. Even Joker afterward says something like "Well, I hate her too. For you." Uh. JACOB. Be mad at JACOB.

It does make me wonder if Brynn knows about Jacob being with Shepard? Like I said I've never pursued his "romance" in 3 so I don't a lot of the details. Watched it on youtube but don't remember that ever being mentioned and I never got around to watching his "romance" Citadel DLC meet up either.

And I see you're a "God" now, opuspace... heheh.

It's sad, but given the ME3 situation it's better to brynn Jacob before you get brynned by him.
I'm not a fan of Jacob's romance in ME2 to begin with. I felt all my Shepards act like out of character. I mean, Jacob's romance manage to get at the same time:

a) horny Shepard
one night stand Shepard
Those two things are not necessarily bad, you can create a motivation for your Shepard like... well, sex before a Suicide Mission, That's totally Shepard

BUT, at the same time you have:
c) romantic Shepard, who wants Jacob to love her and she wants to love Jacob, and suddenly she is all horny and sentimental with a Cerberus guy she barely knows.

It has no sense. It's like to mix two types of romance. Thane's romance is more nuanced. Hell, Garrus' is not nuanced at all ( ) , but at least you knew him from before.
Jacob? You didn't know him and your Shepard wants to bang him, have a love story, have a only sex romance, have sharing moments, not have sharing momments because I'm a tough girl too.. ALL AT THE SAME TIME (btw, I really hate how dismissive and humourless rough Jacob gets when you continue the romance. He seems like a completely different person you met the first time, that cool headed guy with some humour, all chill... )

Maybe other people have managed to make a reasonable background for Jacob romances

Apart from the romance, Jacob's character is fine. And his loyalty mission was creepy as fuck.

Spirit Vanguard
That made my night. Thank you.
I'm glad I haven't made too much of an ass of myself.

Dalinne
I do agree, it's hard to roleplay certain romances in Mass Effect with a serious tentative concern about the LI's feelings. Too often Femshep has to chase the guys so aggressively that I was hoping someone not an asari would show Femshep that she was desirable.
Jacob's romance was one of my favorites only because he fit so well for a specific Shepard I had. My Infiltrator was a narcissistic renegade so having that emphasis on just casual sex was perfect for her as it developed into something more than she expected. So for her to lose him to Brynn was an interesting character twist because she changed in a way I didn't expect.
The flirt line to start a romance with Garrus was awkward to the point of having to headcanon some stuff. But at least it quickly turns serious enough to lose the sleazy streak for Shepards who don't want to just bag him and tag him.

I'm getting more use out of him for this current playthrough. I modded him with assault rifles (so sue me!) and then changed Samara to shotguns, just to be fair. Plus, he saves me from using squad Incendiary myself, when I need it.

I kind of wish he wasn't a biotic though. It'd have been just as cool, if he was a soldier, and a more direct male counterpart to Ashley.

They didn't made the brother wear the tight ass suit for nothing, and he does look like a stripper with that suit. His stage name might as well be Captain Tight Suit or Chocolate Thunder.

That's way I love talking with you guys. That Infiltrator narcissistic renegade Shepard sounds like a very interesting gameplay (what happened in Citadel DLC? She gets a new relationship by ME3 or she gets a Javik?   godIlovethisgamesomuch). 
Her flirt line to start a romance with Garrus is beyond awkward the first time you play it. It helps we know in ME3 the relationship has so much and so good content, because that writing in ME2...

Shepard's blunt way of flirting is canon. She is veeeery "where I put my eye, I put my bullet" kind of flirting. 
Maybe ot's part of her. Maybe is the way earthlings from the XXII century flirt.
Or maybe it's a cultural thing from colonies such as Mindoir.
Or probably she inherited that personality from her vanguard happy father. Hannah Shepard says his dead husband used to approach any personal thing like a Krogan.

Ah, Jacob! I'm quite late to the Mass Effect universe but I must say I was actually glad to get spoiled about his "surprise" in Mass Effect 3. Then in Mass Effect 2 I avoided him like the plague just not to suffer the heartbreak in Mass Effect 3. It's not like I hate or dislike him though. He's a nice person IMO but only if there's enough distance between him and captain's cabin!

I think he's his own person.. don't think he's a Cerberus man exactly either. Nor Alliance, like you say. Besides, he just calls himself a soldier. He criticizes the Alliance just as much. It's not like he's trying to put up a front. He just has the same problem as Garrus: "Red tape". Both of them are kind of wannabe Spectres lol.

And when Miranda recruits him, he's pretty wary at first (in the comics). He doesn't join out of strong ideology or anything.