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Post by yeegrek on Mar 15, 2017 0:11:48 GMT
John Walker is generally a pretty good reviewer, and gives his honest opinion. If he doesn't like it, he doesn't like it. That's life. Well he seems to really not like it. Yeah it's life, no one is disputing it. I think anyone in the thread commenting about the review is more or less commenting on his style of writing. Guy seems to be trying waay too hard for a first impression review. That's my take. Kotaku's seems a little more what I was expecting.
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Post by mikeymoonshine on Mar 15, 2017 0:12:42 GMT
It seems a bit over the top, like the writer has something to prove or whatever, I'd suggest people wait for the actual reviews, or don't even. Like reviews tend to be either overly favourable or overly negative these days anyway.
There's plenty of stuff out there showcasing the early parts of the game, seems like some of it is good and some of it is not so good from what I have seen. No need for me to go off someone else's opinion.
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 15, 2017 0:13:05 GMT
Preview, not a review. Kotaku seems to have really liked it. I guess this game might be divisive. Or it might just be that John Walker has odd tastes. He really loved Kingdoms of Amalur for some reason. Sloppy of me. Thread title edited.
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Post by caldain on Mar 15, 2017 0:15:04 GMT
Well, it was bound to happen sooner or later. Like everything, its a matter of opinion. I'm sure the haters will quote this line for line as to why Bioware is surely dead this time. But for me, I like what I've seen of the game so far. I watched a youtuber stream a couple hours of gameplay and it just screams Mass Effect to me. The gameplay looks fun and the characters are interesting. For my money, Bioware's got my attention.
So one bad preview doesn't dissuade me in the slightest.
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Post by malgus on Mar 15, 2017 0:16:11 GMT
Well seth mcfarlanse have something to say :
It does not make it a bad movie because he said it,just like this guy from rock paper shotgun is not going to change my idea about MEA.
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Post by vonuber on Mar 15, 2017 0:16:55 GMT
That's my take. Kotaku's seems a little more what I was expecting. Doesn't that bias you against alternate opinions though? You expect it to be good and thus dismiss things which say to the contrary?
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Post by dazzarlok on Mar 15, 2017 0:21:42 GMT
Welp, if the guy doesn't like it, then it doesn't like it. No big deal. I won't decide to not buy the game from one negative preview. I watch gameplay videos, look through critic and user reviews, see what the general pros and cons are, and then decide for myself if the cons will bother me enough to not want to play. The game being from a franchise I already enjoy is also a point in its favor. I also find that when many say that the writing in a game is atrocious or whatever, it never really seems to bother me as much as others. Perhaps my standards just aren't as high or I have a higher tolerance
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Post by aard on Mar 15, 2017 0:23:57 GMT
Just wanted to leave the Kotaku Article here for anyone who wants to read it: kotaku.com/five-hours-in-mass-effect-andromeda-is-overwhelming-1793268493Its interesting how different those two people seem to experience the same Game... Subjectivity is always a huge part but its rare that you get totally contradictinary statements. The Kotaku Writer says the Characters are Interesting, as are the Side Quests. Its exactly the opposite.. interesting..
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Post by drclawixp on Mar 15, 2017 0:25:18 GMT
Welp, if the guy doesn't like it, then it doesn't like it. No big deal. I won't decide to not buy the game from one negative preview. I watch gameplay videos, look through critic and user reviews, see what the general pros and cons are, and then decide for myself if the cons will bother me enough to not want to play. The game being from a franchise I already enjoy is also a point in its favor. I also find that when many say that the writing in a game is atrocious or whatever, it never really seems to bother me as much as others. Perhaps my standards just aren't as high or I have a higher tolerance Agreed. From all the actual previews I've been watching, the game looks pretty great in the beginning. Can't wait to see how it opens up.
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Post by Tetrabytes101 on Mar 15, 2017 0:27:48 GMT
Have you not seen the gamespot 45 min gameplay review of Andromeda that's all I needed, Looks dam good I only just took a peep at the combat from an air ship drop, and well it looks amazing!!
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Post by Madflavor on Mar 15, 2017 0:30:41 GMT
I'm beginning to think this is going to be a pretty divisive game. Might actually end up scoring in the low 80s or high 70s on Metacritic.
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Post by vonuber on Mar 15, 2017 0:34:15 GMT
As I commented on the article, a lot of the criticisms can be levelled at DA:I too, which they are using as a template/inspiration.
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Mar 15, 2017 0:43:21 GMT
Watched a couple of let's play's of the game - seems interesting. I'm no cheerleader for their non-lore-friendly approach to the story, either.
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Post by yeegrek on Mar 15, 2017 0:47:00 GMT
That's my take. Kotaku's seems a little more what I was expecting. Doesn't that bias you against alternate opinions though? You expect it to be good and thus dismiss things which say to the contrary? Yep. I've historically like Bioware games so, in my mind, they're good until they're proven not to be (by me ). I know you weren't attacking me, Vonuber (your question was perfectly reasonable), but it's like when I got called a "Naughty Dog fanboy" on another site. You're friggin right I am. They make great games. Ditto Bioware. I'm fully open to the idea that MEA will be a dud, but from my POV, that'll be going against a long list of great games. I don't approach games from the point of view of a critic, and I'm not looking to punch holes in the end result like this reviewer. I just want to be entertained. If MEA can do that, I'll be happy.
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Post by azarhal on Mar 15, 2017 0:48:21 GMT
I'm beginning to think this is going to be a pretty divisive game. Might actually end up scoring in the low 80s or high 70s on Metacritic. I don't think it's going to be that divisive. That previewer sound pissed the game wasn't a total remodeling of mass effect or BioWare modus operandis, while technically most of them should want more BioWare. He calls it "BioWare Paint by Numbers". I've been using that term since Jade Empire released and that's actually why I like them. I know I'm going to get cheese + endearing + badass characters.
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Post by stardog89 on Mar 15, 2017 0:48:51 GMT
Your own review is the only one that really counts.
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Post by slimgrin on Mar 15, 2017 0:59:30 GMT
Why diss it this hard when you're only a few hours in? I can't disregard his criticism since I haven't played, but damn it's unusual for a reviewer to do this. They at least wait till they finish.
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Post by Madflavor on Mar 15, 2017 1:07:37 GMT
I'm beginning to think this is going to be a pretty divisive game. Might actually end up scoring in the low 80s or high 70s on Metacritic. I don't think it's going to be that divisive. That previewer sound pissed the game wasn't a total remodeling of mass effect or BioWare modus operandis, while technically most of them should want more BioWare. He calls it "BioWare Paint by Numbers". I've been using that term since Jade Empire released and that's actually why I like them. I know I'm going to get cheese + endearing + badass characters. Well he's not the only one. Peter Brown on the Bombcast today was pretty down on the game too.
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Post by Revan Reborn on Mar 15, 2017 1:08:00 GMT
Was I the only one laughing at this "preview"? I'm sorry, but it was hard for me to take anything this guy said seriously. Not as if I care about previews or reviews from "gaming critics" anyway. I'll play the game in early access in two days and decide whether it's amazing or not.
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Post by snook on Mar 15, 2017 1:11:14 GMT
Why diss it this hard when you're only a few hours in? I can't disregard his criticism since I haven't played, but damn it's unusual for a reviewer to do this. They at least wait till they finish. Like others have said...this seems like the kind of thing that happens when the reviewer has some kind of personal vendetta against the game/company in question.
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Post by Adhin on Mar 15, 2017 1:22:31 GMT
Sounds like the guy wants to be Zero Punctuation but is doing the wrong job for it. It's fun watching ZP try to shit on a game he actually likes. But his whole thing exists 'to' be entertaining, not to be an actual thing to try to base an opinion off of.
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Post by smilesja on Mar 15, 2017 1:33:09 GMT
"The first few hours of Andromeda are a gruesome trudge through the most trite bilge of the previous three games, smeared out in a setting that’s horribly familiar, burdened with some outstandingly awful writing, buried beneath a UI that appears to have been designed to infuriate in every possible way." Just from that little part I dismiss everything this person has to say. He is out to smear not review. He's trying too hard imitating Smudboy.
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Post by warbaby2 on Mar 15, 2017 1:33:10 GMT
Why diss it this hard when you're only a few hours in? I can't disregard his criticism since I haven't played, but damn it's unusual for a reviewer to do this. They at least wait till they finish. Like others have said...this seems like the kind of thing that happens when the reviewer has some kind of personal vendetta against the game/company in question. Funny thing is, RPSG always was very well on BW's side in the past... still this preview had some salt in it. That being said, I can see where he is coming from in parts: After watching the first view game hours from more then one LPer now, I can relate to some of the problems he paraded around. The UI - and the planet scanning - do look as if they could get cumbersome after a couple of hours, and the writing seams indeed to be very dodgy in places. Still, he isn't commenting much about the clearly atmospheric exploration... I mean, boring planets or not, but BW at least has the mood set right, that shows already.
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Post by Madflavor on Mar 15, 2017 2:14:45 GMT
Relevant:
Same guy btw.
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Post by farsight on Mar 15, 2017 2:15:28 GMT
He is free to his opinion. From what I've seen I've enjoyed it. However the stuff I've seen and liked is later in the game. For all I know he is right at the opening is tedious. I'll wait for more reviews.
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