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Post by Fredward on Mar 15, 2017 6:19:44 GMT
RPS is a pretty well-established review site so the people making it sound like he's trying to prove something/trying to imitate someone: eh. It's funny, I visit three sites talking about Andromeda, this one, Reddit and the Codex (yes). Reddit is being its usual echo chambery self while remaining sublimely unaware of it, here is mooostly the same with some dissenting voices that don't go away just cuz you click a button, and the Codex, which hates RPS, suddenly does an about face cuz it fits their narrative.
For my sake I like RPS; I don't always agree with their reviews, which I think they'd be fine with. Bioware's game wind up being more than the some of their parts for me, some bits can irk me immensely (coughfaces&eyescough) but at the end of the day they make the kind of game, with certain elements and focuses, that no one else does. And I wound up with net enjoyable experiences pretty consistently so far.
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Post by MattMan031 on Mar 15, 2017 7:17:27 GMT
Ya know what? With this review, (and ignore all of his grunts and groans) I'm really not impressed. Sorry. But this game sucks. Except for you console newbs. Who'll accept anything. See : Zelda : Breadth Of The Wild. I mean, you've got to talk to an asari and a turian right after, both of which send you on fetch quests. JUST LIKE IN DAI.
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Post by Reznore on Mar 15, 2017 7:38:36 GMT
I saw some nice things during Streams but also not so good. The first zone looks worst than the Hinterlands and frankly the "side quests" are on the same level...no really you have to put something on someone grave just like you did in DAI.... There's a lot of things reused from ME but also DAI and it's kind of comical because they reused the Breach just they just painted it blue... For people who've never played ME or DAI , it's great. But otherwise it's a lot of been there , done that.
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Post by fredvdp on Mar 15, 2017 7:50:58 GMT
Preview, not a review. Kotaku seems to have really liked it. I guess this game might be divisive. Or it might just be that John Walker has odd tastes. He really loved Kingdoms of Amalur for some reason. Is that the game that has two separate dialog systems for no apparent reason?
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Post by vonuber on Mar 15, 2017 7:56:27 GMT
Anyone accusing RPS of hunting for clicks really doesn't know that site. It'seems one of the best sites out there - certainly no IGN exclusive preview 10/10.
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Post by Kantr on Mar 15, 2017 8:01:34 GMT
Having seen his tweets about the ending of ME3 and The Witcher 3. I'm more inclined to ignore his review of the preview. He does make a few good points about the side quests but then Bioware never really gets the small ones right.
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Post by fredvdp on Mar 15, 2017 8:11:43 GMT
I don't want to dismiss his opinion, because after all he has played the game and I haven't, but some of his critiques could be articulated better. Using "really?!" as an argument just doesn't fly with me.
Most of it seems like valid criticism, though. I'll play the trial tomorrow before I decide whether or not I agree with it.
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Post by stysiaq on Mar 15, 2017 8:13:58 GMT
The author is clearly out for blood. Even the quick video of "companion AI" didn't show anything preposterous, just some awkward idle movement. I believe that making Ryder a revered Pathfinder within an hour indeed happens and it sucks, but right now I can't see anything more that wouldn't be THE END IS NIGH clickbait.
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Post by stysiaq on Mar 15, 2017 8:15:08 GMT
I'm beginning to think this is going to be a pretty divisive game. Might actually end up scoring in the low 80s or high 70s on Metacritic. At least BioWare enthusiasts won't crucify any reviewer for giving it a 7/10 like Zelda cult.
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Post by stysiaq on Mar 15, 2017 8:16:55 GMT
Ok, now I know what everyone is talking about. Who is this? Vampire lady from Skyrim? and what is that hair color? I cannot believe that this lady is from the game. Captain! another anomaly here, toss her out of the airlock. 100% it's a custom Ryder that he made in the image of some random neon hair ugly feminist stereotype for more clickbait.
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Post by stysiaq on Mar 15, 2017 8:19:08 GMT
I don't want to dismiss his opinion, because after all he has played the game and I haven't, but some of his critiques could be articulated better. Using "really?!" as an argument just doesn't fly with me.Most of it seems like valid criticism, though. I'll play the trial tomorrow before I decide whether or not I agree with it. You probably have a condition called "expecting good writing style from people who call themselves reviewers". Keep in mind that video game journalism is little more than blogging.
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Post by ArmoredPsycho on Mar 15, 2017 8:20:10 GMT
Ok, now I know what everyone is talking about. Who is this? Vampire lady from Skyrim? and what is that hair color? I cannot believe that this lady is from the game. Captain! another anomaly here, toss her out of the airlock. 100% it's a custom Ryder that he made in the image of some random neon hair ugly feminist stereotype for more clickbait. Yeah that makes sense now Oops, I already toss her out of the airlock...
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Post by Ahriman on Mar 15, 2017 8:22:36 GMT
I'm beginning to think this is going to be a pretty divisive game. Might actually end up scoring in the low 80s or high 70s on Metacritic. At least BioWare enthusiasts won't crucify any reviewer for giving it a 7/10 like Zelda cult. Well, I've already seen counter-preview to this one. Counter. Freaking. Preview. Some dude got journalist access and not just makes preview out of it (I bet you'll never guess it's tone), but feels the need to defend the game from other reviewers. What a time to be a gamer.
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Post by Ocelot on Mar 15, 2017 8:25:43 GMT
Yeah he opinions just became completely non legit for me.
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Post by dazzarlok on Mar 15, 2017 8:26:29 GMT
I'm beginning to think this is going to be a pretty divisive game. Might actually end up scoring in the low 80s or high 70s on Metacritic. At least BioWare enthusiasts won't crucify any reviewer for giving it a 7/10 like Zelda cult. I certainly hope not. That crap was just disgusting. Since when is a 7/10 a bad score? The guy even said that he liked the game...
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Post by stysiaq on Mar 15, 2017 8:28:38 GMT
At least BioWare enthusiasts won't crucify any reviewer for giving it a 7/10 like Zelda cult. Well, I've already seen counter-preview to this one. Counter. Freaking. Preview. Some dude got journalist access and not just makes preview out of it (I bet you'll never guess it's tone), but feels the need to defend the game from other reviewers.What a time to be a gamer. More and more I feel that reviewing games should be done after your second child so you have a shot at not being a fanboy brand loyalist that white knights for corporations.
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Post by stysiaq on Mar 15, 2017 8:30:03 GMT
Yeah he opinions just became completely non legit for me. No, he is just a contrarian. Armond White wannabe, just without the education.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 8:34:01 GMT
OK. They've had 5 years to get this right. Look at the Hair and the lighting effects. Surely you get the basics right before anything else? THe GFX look 3 years dated FFS. Better texturing and hair animations can be found on The Last of us on the PS3!!
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Comparing the GFX on the Character creation against any other top notch game is like comparing the Oblivion character creator to Skyrims.... Chalk and cheese.
My god their faces look like Plastic.
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Post by flyingovertrout on Mar 15, 2017 8:35:38 GMT
So this cat is sorta the video game industry version of Armond White.
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Post by ioannisdenton on Mar 15, 2017 8:52:12 GMT
I really do not know anymore guys . I am too patient when it comes to bugs and animations BUT seriously after what i saw yesterday the faces look dull, DEAD, the eys are awful. What the hell bioware was doing all these years?? I hate to be that guy but face it: CDpr a polish studio with its own graphical engine nailed the presentation and the quests and voice acting while bioware with FROSTBYTE and previous experience gives us this shit. Now i really like Sara from the start, peebee , i really wanna punch the negatie people bashing the game for crap like this , yet my problem is not with the beauty or the plastic hair but with the souless interactions. I like the voice acting a lot but man the faces.. FRICKING TECHNOMANCER had similar faces and this game has the 1/10 budget of andromeda. AM I GOING INSANE?
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Post by noviere on Mar 15, 2017 9:02:36 GMT
Generally speaking, I love RPS. But John Walker has become a hyperbolic crank over the last few years. I think it started when he told off Peter Molyneux in an interview, and has snowballed from there. There is no nuance... If he doesn't love it, it's the worst thing ever made.
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Post by aard on Mar 15, 2017 9:06:14 GMT
So looks like the fetch quests are making a return? Goody. The thing is.. he is the only one saying this.. Every other Previewer says the Side quests are Interesting. But we have to remember even The Witcher 3 has Fetch Quests.. they just are clad in interesting Stories. I mean he likes the ME3 Ending and really dislikes The Witcher 3. Everybody is totally entitled to their own opinion.. but it is obvious that he seems to have a very, very different taste from most of us. Most RPG Fans adore The Witcher 3 because while not perfect has proven that Great Main Quest, Good Side Quests, great Characters and Open World can totally exist in one Game. Maybe as someone said Walker just does not like Open World RPGs at all.. But to be honest then he is the wrong guy to Preview Andromeda. You can put a guy who does not like Racing Games in front of Forza Horizon 3 and he will propably tell you it is a horrible Game.. And while thats his valid Opinion its clear that he is propably not best suited to judge a Game in the Genre.
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Post by aard on Mar 15, 2017 9:19:54 GMT
The thing is.. he is the only one saying this.. Every other Previewer says the Side quests are Interesting. But we have to remember even The Witcher 3 has Fetch Quests.. they just are clad in interesting Stories. I'm yet to see a review/preview claiming that ME:A's side quests are comparable to TW3. www.trustedreviews.com/mass-effect-andromeda-reviewHere you go A few quotes "The brilliant thing about Andromeda is that every mission on offer has weight – there’s no filler on offer" "After two hours exploring this side-quest, it suddenly dawned on me that I hadn’t even finished the main mission – that poor prisoner was still holed up in the slums back on Kadara. But I’d become so enthralled by the Krogan story that I’d forgotten about everything else" Sounds pretty The Witcher 3 esque to me. Now that of course is not to say that EVERY little Side Activity is that way.. but the bigger Side Quests seem to be. And lets be fair even the Witcher has Monster Nests, Question Marks,Bandit Camps,Person in Danger and other random Stuff without much Story..
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Post by yeegrek on Mar 15, 2017 9:21:03 GMT
The dude does seem like he's one of those contrarian types. "If it's popular, I hate it". Although I don't necessarily disagree with the Witcher comment he made. It was a great game in its own right, very well made, but it just didn't light my world on fire like it did for (seemingly) everyone else.
Still, as Zero Punctuation once said, sometimes something is popular because it's mass produced, endlessly focus grouped, lowest common denominator garbage, and sometimes something is popular because it's actually good. This guy seems to confuse the two. I can respect the idea that it's not his cup of tea, but he seems like he wanted to hate it right out of the gate.
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