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Post by ATR16 on Mar 17, 2017 5:45:31 GMT
Hey OP, I agree with your points. I would've also liked a little line about how he comes from a specific region which is why he has an accent and sounds different from all the other Salarians we've met. It obviously isn't that big of a deal. I just made up some background story in my head to explain the accent. Well, hell, we've only had preliminary conversations with the guy. Maybe it'll come out? Possibly? Hopefully? Why are we even focusing on a Salarian with an accent? What about the impossibility of gene therapy in cryostasis? Or the fact that we're supposed to believe that Cora served with Asari Commandos when Jack is canonically the strongest human biotic and the best she got was a gig at a human school that Liara sort of scoffed at? But mostly, it's the Krogan thing. The SUPER CONVENIENT KROGAN THING. Or the surprise that the planets have changed since the initiative left the Milky Way, 600 years ago. "HOW COULD THIS BE?" Well, earth has been totally glassed since you guys left and that was in like a year and a half. Stuff happens man.
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Post by Steelcan on Mar 17, 2017 5:45:45 GMT
tbf Jack should have been locked back up by the Alliance, not sent to be a teacher.
Helping out a covert terrorist organization in a paramilitary operation shouldn't wipe her record of piracy, murder, and so on
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Post by nickles on Mar 17, 2017 5:56:20 GMT
Well, hell, we've only had preliminary conversations with the guy. Maybe it'll come out? Possibly? Hopefully? Why are we even focusing on a Salarian with an accent? What about the impossibility of gene therapy in cryostasis? Or the fact that we're supposed to believe that Cora served with Asari Commandos when Jack is canonically the strongest human biotic and the best she got was a gig at a human school that Liara sort of scoffed at? But mostly, it's the Krogan thing. The SUPER CONVENIENT KROGAN THING. Or the surprise that the planets have changed since the initiative left the Milky Way, 600 years ago. "HOW COULD THIS BE?" Well, earth has been totally glassed since you guys left and that was in like a year and a half. Stuff happens man. I can sort of rationalize that with the fact that on a galactic scale, 600 years isn't really that long. The Krogan and Asari can also outlive that lengthy span of time by at least twofold, so... I mean, definitions of a "long time" in Mass Effect are about as subjective as you can get. Also, pfft, Shepard killed 300,000 Batarians. Let that be your perspective for how severely the Alliance deals with crimes against likely-non-Citadel-aligned species.
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Post by Steelcan on Mar 17, 2017 5:57:44 GMT
most of those crimes were involving the Hanar or Turians as I recall
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 17, 2017 5:58:46 GMT
Well, hell, we've only had preliminary conversations with the guy. Maybe it'll come out? Possibly? Hopefully? Why are we even focusing on a Salarian with an accent? What about the impossibility of gene therapy in cryostasis? Or the fact that we're supposed to believe that Cora served with Asari Commandos when Jack is canonically the strongest human biotic and the best she got was a gig at a human school that Liara sort of scoffed at? But mostly, it's the Krogan thing. The SUPER CONVENIENT KROGAN THING. Or the surprise that the planets have changed since the initiative left the Milky Way, 600 years ago. "HOW COULD THIS BE?" Well, earth has been totally glassed since you guys left and that was in like a year and a half. Stuff happens man. Provided that they were somehow able to scan the planets as they were at that very moment from that distance, 600 years is actually not very long on a geologic scale. The general climate should not have made any drastic changes, pending any kind of cataclysmic event that could happen within that time frame.
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Post by ATR16 on Mar 17, 2017 6:00:04 GMT
Or the surprise that the planets have changed since the initiative left the Milky Way, 600 years ago. "HOW COULD THIS BE?" Well, earth has been totally glassed since you guys left and that was in like a year and a half. Stuff happens man. I can sort of rationalize that with the fact that on a galactic scale, 600 years isn't really that long. The Krogan and Asari can also outlive that lengthy span of time by at least twofold, so... I mean, definitions of a "long time" in Mass Effect are about as subjective as you can get. Also, pfft, Shepard killed 300,000 Batarians. Let that be your perspective for how severely the Alliance deals with crimes against likely-non-Citadel-aligned species. Yeah but compare earth now to 600 years ago, and who the heck can predict what it would be like in 2754 or whenever it would line up with Andromeda. Things change fella. The fact that apparently there was no Plan B on this sort of initiative is stunning.
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Post by ATR16 on Mar 17, 2017 6:01:22 GMT
Or the surprise that the planets have changed since the initiative left the Milky Way, 600 years ago. "HOW COULD THIS BE?" Well, earth has been totally glassed since you guys left and that was in like a year and a half. Stuff happens man. Provided that they were somehow able to scan the planets as they were at that very moment from that distance, 600 years is actually not very long on a geologic scale. The general climate should not have made any drastic changes, pending any kind of cataclysmic event that could happen within that time frame. No plan B? No "we did the scan, but there was x% room for error"? "We did a scan before we left, shit's perf yo!" Come on...
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Post by nickles on Mar 17, 2017 6:04:16 GMT
I can sort of rationalize that with the fact that on a galactic scale, 600 years isn't really that long. The Krogan and Asari can also outlive that lengthy span of time by at least twofold, so... I mean, definitions of a "long time" in Mass Effect are about as subjective as you can get. Also, pfft, Shepard killed 300,000 Batarians. Let that be your perspective for how severely the Alliance deals with crimes against likely-non-Citadel-aligned species. Yeah but compare earth now to 600 years ago, and who the heck can predict what it would be like in 2754 or whenever it would line up with Andromeda. Things change fella. The fact that apparently there was no Plan B on this sort of initiative is stunning. Yeah, but Earth is a colonized world. The Golden Worlds were uninhabited as far as anyone could tell (I assume from the surprise in their seeing structures on the planet's surface). Evolution is a slow process, and they were right to anticipate that barring some cataclysmic development (which happened), the world would have been in a very similar state to what they expected. I mean, hell, the cave with a lush, living tree is proof enough of this. Had the Krett or whatevertheelsemightberesponsible not come onto the scene, the plan would have gone along swimmingly. At least with Ark Hyperion. No idea yet what's up with the others.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2017 6:05:49 GMT
Ahh, the desperate rhapsody of the final gasps of a dying political culture cursing reality. Such sweet music they make. A footnote in history will remember the passing of gas that gave breath to the OP. Logic will always win against political correctness. Sorry, but you guys are the ones losing right now. You'll also lose again in 2020. If you didn't believe your politics was being marginalized you wouldn't be needing to insert your illiberal insular political thinking into a discussion about accents and alien races, would you?
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 17, 2017 6:06:12 GMT
I can sort of rationalize that with the fact that on a galactic scale, 600 years isn't really that long. The Krogan and Asari can also outlive that lengthy span of time by at least twofold, so... I mean, definitions of a "long time" in Mass Effect are about as subjective as you can get. Also, pfft, Shepard killed 300,000 Batarians. Let that be your perspective for how severely the Alliance deals with crimes against likely-non-Citadel-aligned species. Yeah but compare earth now to 600 years ago, and who the heck can predict what it would be like in 2754 or whenever it would line up with Andromeda. Things change fella. The fact that apparently there was no Plan B on this sort of initiative is stunning. Yeah, Earth now, but what about the periods that predate technologically advanced life of any sort?
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Post by ATR16 on Mar 17, 2017 6:08:23 GMT
Yeah but compare earth now to 600 years ago, and who the heck can predict what it would be like in 2754 or whenever it would line up with Andromeda. Things change fella. The fact that apparently there was no Plan B on this sort of initiative is stunning. Yeah, Earth now, but what about the periods that predate technologically advanced life of any sort? Like the ice age and dinosaurs and the meteor and whatever else?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2017 6:11:33 GMT
Isn't Tann that...suspect salarian that has that crazy lisp? He sounds high AF when you lispen to him.
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 17, 2017 6:13:17 GMT
Yeah, Earth now, but what about the periods that predate technologically advanced life of any sort? Like the ice age and dinosaurs and the meteor and whatever else? Save for the meteor (the aforementioned cataclysmic event), these things would span over millions of years.
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Post by ATR16 on Mar 17, 2017 6:15:25 GMT
Like the ice age and dinosaurs and the meteor and whatever else? Save for the meteor (the aforementioned cataclysmic event), these things would span over millions of years. So the Ark left without a plan B should one of those events happen and sewer the entire initiative?
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Post by nickles on Mar 17, 2017 6:16:06 GMT
Isn't Tann that...suspect salarian that has that crazy lisp? He sounds high AF when you lispen to him. Lispen. You rogue!
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Post by nickles on Mar 17, 2017 6:18:56 GMT
Save for the meteor (the aforementioned cataclysmic event), these things would span over millions of years. So the Ark left without a plan B should one of those events happen and sewer the entire initiative? This is really a scenario where having a "Plan B" is quite difficult. I mean, they're in spaceships with thousands of people in cryosleep, 2.something million light years from home. They signed on knowing it was possibly a suicide mission. The initiative was basically "this is how it's going to go." Maybe if every member of leadership wasn't MIA or dead (including the founder!), things would have panned out differently; but the narrative, as well as characters like Tann, paint a very clear picture of a people heaping all their problems onto the shoulders of the Pathfinders because there is really no other option.
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 17, 2017 6:19:22 GMT
Save for the meteor (the aforementioned cataclysmic event), these things would span over millions of years. So the Ark left without a plan B should one of those events happen and sewer the entire initiative? The meteor is the only thing that could suddenly pop up in that span of time, and the vast majority of the time, anything that does hit the planet would not have the mass to create a cataclysm. The earth is hit by meteors all the time, and most don't even make it to the surface. It's more likely that the ship would simply suffer catastrophic failure on the trip.
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 17, 2017 6:28:27 GMT
Save for the meteor (the aforementioned cataclysmic event), these things would span over millions of years. So the Ark left without a plan B should one of those events happen and sewer the entire initiative? Well, the probability that multiple planets would have catastrophic events within 600 years was probably considered low. And it's not like the mission was ever risk-free.
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Post by stysiaq on Mar 17, 2017 6:57:05 GMT
So the Ark left without a plan B should one of those events happen and sewer the entire initiative? The meteor is the only thing that could suddenly pop up in that span of time, and the vast majority of the time, anything that does hit the planet would not have the mass to create a cataclysm. The earth is hit by meteors all the time, and most don't even make it to the surface. It's more likely that the ship would simply suffer catastrophic failure on the trip. What about planning for Andromeda sentient species coming to the planets during the 600 years period and calling dibs on them? Didn't the plot telescopes acknowledge any signs of planets already having inhabitants?
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Post by ATR16 on Mar 17, 2017 7:00:08 GMT
The meteor is the only thing that could suddenly pop up in that span of time, and the vast majority of the time, anything that does hit the planet would not have the mass to create a cataclysm. The earth is hit by meteors all the time, and most don't even make it to the surface. It's more likely that the ship would simply suffer catastrophic failure on the trip. What about planning for Andromeda sentient species coming to the planets during the 600 years period and calling dibs on them? Didn't the plot telescopes acknowledge any signs of planets already having inhabitants? Oh my god, I didn't even think of that. Seriously "We found habitable planets in this galaxy! Let's move in!" "Are there aliens over there we should maybe worry about?" "Don't be stupid. Why would there be aliens?" "..."
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Post by stysiaq on Mar 17, 2017 7:08:03 GMT
What about planning for Andromeda sentient species coming to the planets during the 600 years period and calling dibs on them? Didn't the plot telescopes acknowledge any signs of planets already having inhabitants? Oh my god, I didn't even think of that. Seriously "We found habitable planets in this galaxy! Let's move in!" "Are there aliens over there we should maybe worry about?" "Don't be stupid. Why would there be aliens?" "..." How could ANY aliens make the technological jump to space flight in a relatively small period of time and began colonizing the planets we deemed perfect for harboring organic life? Puh-leeease, don't be a fucking moron, Jim.
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Post by alihou on Mar 17, 2017 7:19:22 GMT
I agree with OP. I just hear Dinesh from silicon valley, like he's not even trying to be different. We've encountered how many Salarians? This is the first Indian sounding Salarian we've heard. They could've put him in any other role. The same can be said for Natalie Dormer playing an Asari. I don't remember encountering Asari with English accents if my memory is correct.
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 17, 2017 7:24:28 GMT
600 years is not all that long a time for a non technological species to become technological and start colonizing everything in sight, even assuming that there's intelligent life in the area.
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Post by ATR16 on Mar 17, 2017 7:29:01 GMT
600 years is not all that long a time for a non technological species to become technological and start colonizing everything in sight, even assuming that there's intelligent life in the area. Right, it only took humans like 30 to discover the rest of the galaxy once getting to Mars. Or 150 game years from present day to Mass Effect, where you're travelling all across the galaxy at FTL speeds and covering light years of distance in like no time flat.
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Post by SwobyJ on Mar 17, 2017 8:03:12 GMT
I really like aliens having more accents.
I so far do not like this character's voice acting though.
Perhaps the worst of the trial so far for me.
I'm willing to give him a shot for the rest of the game, but not a great impression.
The whole Nexus leadership is suspect for quality voicing, but I can more easily excuse the rest. Even Kesh.
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