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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 16:14:27 GMT
In any case, in the coming weeks there'll tons of reviews and streams of the game, so everyone can check out of the game's writing holds up after the access gate, as well as other features. A good thing for the open world structure, which was stated not only by some previewers, but by some people on GAF that is reviewing the game, is that the quests are more narrative based then Inquisition, so the game shouldn't be composed of mostly MMO type of quests. I hope so. The planets look fairly empty DAI style in the gameplay videos. Or at least the desert one. But if quests have a narrative and don't feel like a chore, that's an improvement, definitely. I just don't get my Bioware decided once again to make the dullest planet the starting one. AND then limit the trial to this planet. It's the Hinterlands all over again then. It's not good marketing. People might get turned off again like with DAI and miss a decent overall experience. At the time you could tell, those who hated the game and gave up quickly were those that never left the Hinterlands. The map was not intended to be cleared right away. I left quickly and found other maps a lot cooler. I remember how awesome the Storm Coast was. I just stood there looking at the waves for five minutes. It didn't help that the game didn't have a compelling start. Or that the main story was pretty meh. And Corypheus was just embarrassing. The companions however were my favorite ones of the three games. The banter was glorious. I've always loved Bioware's humor. MEA's humor seems very very different. Maybe I'll get used to it. Maybe it's an acquired taste. Like Japanese comedies. *g* But in fairness it is following the formula of ME1 and I think they wanted to win back the hearts and minds of ME1 fans. While ME2/3 attracted a much wider base, they took criticism for getting to far from its predecessor and they were pretty valid criticisms. Gone were the days of explore. Here in MEA, Eros would be equivalent to Therum I think which was meant to be the first planet though you could go to any. You land there and ride in the mako a little shooting a few geth along the way. You find the spot that looks to be where she is and big attack for where you are level wise happens, then you go inside. My guess is here you may pick up the krogan after some oooh and aaahhhhhs and maybe a puzzle and some impressive surroundings with a bit of story to those monoliths or whatever we are calling them. That makes it pretty dead on beat for beat to ME1. Here we have more we can do. I didn't get a chance to really scout abaout but it looked like I missed a side quest I think and probably a few other things which gives it more to do than therum, but it still is keeping with ME1 beats yet it does give us more to do already along with puzzles to solve. I don't mind if eros is sort of low key and even if another is sort of low key. As long as they have things to do while we are there. I would like it even more if they could evolve when we get the viability up. I would imagine this isn't going to take us only a month but maybe more like a year across all planets or several months I would think of in game time (their time not ours) and over the course of our gameplay where we are waking people up and improving viability, I wonder if the planets will become more populated and show more signs of life. There was that element in DAI, while not super impressive, that first zone, once you cleared it of mage/templar combat you got more population there and people now asking you to help them. Since it looks like we have some DAI mixed into MEA, I wonder if that happens as the planet becomes more viable.
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Post by capn233 on Mar 18, 2017 16:19:09 GMT
My main problem with Addison in not the bad writing or animations... its that horrible makeup. Who leaves the house like that? I haven't played the trial, so I assumed that character was a clown. Is that not the case?
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Post by Hier0phant on Mar 18, 2017 16:34:12 GMT
There's always that one person who'll spot an issue.
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Post by fiannawolf on Mar 18, 2017 16:36:50 GMT
That is a thing of beauty there Hier....hehehehe. A most excellent laugh before going to work today.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 16:37:54 GMT
One of my favorite reviewers played the open beta their doing now. He's never played an ME game before, but he wasn't impressed by this game. Though he's a bit harder on games then most reviewers are. So take his opinion with a grain of salt. No offense, but if the "guy" is one of your favorite reviewers... you really shouldn't be judging the writing quality in ME:A. This "guy's" writing of his own reivew script is a real mess and his voice delivery sucks waaay more than the voice acting he's so adamently criticizing in the game. I had never seen one of his reviews before this one (therefore, I was completely unbiased)... but as a result of trying to watch this incoherent diabtribe, I won't be watching any more of his reviews in the future. Here's one of the comments on that video: "The characters all look like hipsters, metrosexuals and 3rd year gender studies students." That's similar to my early impressions.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 16:53:13 GMT
No offense, but if the "guy" is one of your favorite reviewers... you really shouldn't be judging the writing quality in ME:A. This "guy's" writing of his own reivew script is a real mess and his voice delivery sucks waaay more than the voice acting he's so adamently criticizing in the game. I had never seen one of his reviews before this one (therefore, I was completely unbiased)... but as a result of trying to watch this incoherent diabtribe, I won't be watching any more of his reviews in the future. Here's one of the comments on that video: "The characters all look like hipsters, metrosexuals and 3rd year gender studies students." That's similar to my early impressions. ... and that makes it a well written, well presented review... how??? It doesn't. Also, he's clearly not unbiased... just using the excuse of not having played a Mass Effect game in order to claim that's he's unbiased. His diatribe about EA and AAA games in general near the end of the video clearly reveals a bias.
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Post by bigbad on Mar 18, 2017 16:56:27 GMT
No offense, but if the "guy" is one of your favorite reviewers... you really shouldn't be judging the writing quality in ME:A. This "guy's" writing of his own reivew script is a real mess and his voice delivery sucks waaay more than the voice acting he's so adamently criticizing in the game. I had never seen one of his reviews before this one (therefore, I was completely unbiased)... but as a result of trying to watch this incoherent diabtribe, I won't be watching any more of his reviews in the future. Here's one of the comments on that video: "The characters all look like hipsters, metrosexuals and 3rd year gender studies students." That's similar to my early impressions. It's 2017, not 2002. Anybody who uses the word "metrosexual" should have their opinion immediately disregarded.
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Post by jediguardian on Mar 18, 2017 16:56:47 GMT
MEA may have some problem BUT I am still enjoy playing ... like really enjoy.
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Post by The Elder King on Mar 18, 2017 17:01:35 GMT
No offense, but if the "guy" is one of your favorite reviewers... you really shouldn't be judging the writing quality in ME:A. This "guy's" writing of his own reivew script is a real mess and his voice delivery sucks waaay more than the voice acting he's so adamently criticizing in the game. I had never seen one of his reviews before this one (therefore, I was completely unbiased)... but as a result of trying to watch this incoherent diabtribe, I won't be watching any more of his reviews in the future. Here's one of the comments on that video: "The characters all look like hipsters, metrosexuals and 3rd year gender studies students." That's similar to my early impressions. I honestly don't see how you can have that impression. Regardless if you think characters and their animations are well done or not, I don't see how that comment can be qualified as reasonable.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Mar 18, 2017 17:42:41 GMT
There's always that one person who'll spot an issue. The scope is not in 1st person, it's 3rd person with zoom. God passed this rifle down to Ryder to watch over his sheep. No wait, that was Shepard's job. Nevermind. It's 2017, not 2002. Anybody who uses the word "metrosexual" should have their opinion immediately disregarded. What term has replaced "metrosexual"? I'm not up to date anymore. (I really am not, you hipster kids are all weird to me anyway.)
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Post by bigbad on Mar 18, 2017 17:47:28 GMT
It's 2017, not 2002. Anybody who uses the word "metrosexual" should have their opinion immediately disregarded. What term has replaced "metrosexual"? I'm not up to date anymore. (I really am not, you hipster kids are all weird to me anyway.) No term that I know of, thankfully. It was a silly idea in the first place.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 18:44:22 GMT
Here's one of the comments on that video: "The characters all look like hipsters, metrosexuals and 3rd year gender studies students." That's similar to my early impressions. I honestly don't see how you can have that impression. Regardless if you think characters and their animations are well done or not, I don't see how that comment can be qualified as reasonable. That's one of the first impressions I got. I wouldn't word it that way necessarily, just had similar thoughts.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 18:54:06 GMT
What term has replaced "metrosexual"? I'm not up to date anymore. (I really am not, you hipster kids are all weird to me anyway.) I'm not up to date either. It would be nice to see a protagonist that's not 18 1/2 years old for a change...
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Post by The Elder King on Mar 18, 2017 18:56:23 GMT
What term has replaced "metrosexual"? I'm not up to date anymore. (I really am not, you hipster kids are all weird to me anyway.) I'm not up to date either. It would be nice to see a protagonist that's not 18 1/2 years old for a change... Well, they're 22 I don't disagree with that, I'd have preferred at least a few years older, but what does have to do with being metrosexual?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 19:13:28 GMT
I'm not up to date either. It would be nice to see a protagonist that's not 18 1/2 years old for a change... Well, they're 22 I don't disagree with that, I'd have preferred at least a few years older, but what does have to do with being metrosexual? Nothing really. I was responding more to the second sentence about myself not being up to date anymore or a hipster kid either.
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Post by panzerwzh on Mar 18, 2017 19:13:52 GMT
Yup a relatively objective analysis of current state of MEA.
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Post by timebean on Mar 18, 2017 20:41:02 GMT
I liked the game in general, but there are some issues that. It depends on what is important to you versus what isn't. - Good voice acting, There are characters and themes I am excited to learn more about, etc. There is some occasional cheesy dialogue and rushed exposition, but overall it's pretty good.
- The combat is hella fun, imo.
- I think it is a pretty game. The NPC's do have those thousand yard stares, but the lip syncing is not as bad as folks are making out. Honestly, the overall animations, while a bit low level, kinda grew on me during the trial and I am OK with them.
- The CC sucks, especially if you want to create and attractive white woman. But there are other options if you don't care about that.
- The menus are REALLY unintuitve and a mess. I don't know about consoles, but on PC, sometimes ESCAPE means ENTER and other times it means ESCAPE and the same with SPACEBAR. It is really stupid. The journal for quests is set up in a completely unintuituve way (ie, you have to open different folders to find different quests...UGGG!). You can kind of keep track of quests with the map, but then you have to hit escape twice to get out of the map, which is beyond annoying.
- RPG aspect - well, I have a feeling it will be like DAI. IE, four different tones for the exact same response. I miss the paragon/renegade set up, which actually had weight. But still, it is a different game, and I don't expect it to be exactly like the trilogy. Perhaps there will be deep choices later, but in the 10 hours I played, I did not get the impression that my choice of tone meant anything.
The game was purchased for me as a gift, so I will play it. However, I would have honestly cancelled my own order after the trial because of the limited CC (which means alot to me, personally, though other folks could care less). But for free? Sure, I'll play.
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Post by theorigcylonhybrid on Mar 18, 2017 20:58:10 GMT
The game was purchased for me as a gift, so I will play it. However, I would have honestly cancelled my own order after the trial because of the limited CC (which means alot to me, personally, though other folks could care less). But for free? Sure, I'll play. Really? You would have cancelled the game because of limited character creation? Despite the fact its only one of a few games that has character creation. Tomb raider didn't The Witcher 3 didn't Horizon zero dawn didn't Bioshock didn't etc Would you not play any of these games because its doesn't even give you the option of CC because its so important?
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Post by ToLazy4Name on Mar 18, 2017 21:05:37 GMT
So, hit me. What's wrong with Andromeda? Try to keep it all legible. Spare me the spoilers and keep it simple. It's shit.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Mar 18, 2017 21:07:58 GMT
So, hit me. What's wrong with Andromeda? Try to keep it all legible. Spare me the spoilers and keep it simple. It's shit. Back your crap up.
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Post by theorigcylonhybrid on Mar 18, 2017 21:08:10 GMT
So, hit me. What's wrong with Andromeda? Try to keep it all legible. Spare me the spoilers and keep it simple. It's shit. We've got people playing 18 hours of it saying its a really good game.
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Post by timebean on Mar 18, 2017 21:10:38 GMT
The game was purchased for me as a gift, so I will play it. However, I would have honestly cancelled my own order after the trial because of the limited CC (which means alot to me, personally, though other folks could care less). But for free? Sure, I'll play. Really? You would have cancelled the game because of limited character creation? Despite the fact its only one of a few games that has character creation. Tomb raider didn't The Witcher 3 didn't Horizon zero dawn didn't Bioshock didn't etc Would you not play any of these games because its doesn't even give you the option of CC because its so important? What about that game called...umm...Red Herring? The Witcher was not an RPG. It was a story where you played as Geralt. Also...it was beyond beautiful, had amazing characters, and was fun as hell. Bioshock was not an RPG - it was an FPS and was one of the coolest stories of all time. Never played the other two. Prolly won't. BIOWARE games do not have the graphic quality of the Witcher or the storytelling quality of Bioshock. Not even in the same ballpark. But I play Bioware games because I like to roleplay and meet fun characters that I can interact with. In this game, I cannot create my character either through the CC or through the dialogue tree. I could in their previous games (or at least, could do one of those things). So...why the hell would I buy it if it does not deliver on the two things that I personally go to a Bioware game to get? This is just my opinion, BTW, based on why I PERSONALLY play these games. You don't have to agree. If you have different things you want outta the game and it delivers for ya, then enjoy!
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Post by ToLazy4Name on Mar 18, 2017 21:10:56 GMT
We've got people playing 18 hours of it saying its a really good game. it's shit tho
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Post by theorigcylonhybrid on Mar 18, 2017 21:10:56 GMT
I normally completely ignore other people's opinions because there are too many salty retards in the gaming scene. I've preordered the deluxe edition, have NOT touched early access and have NOT watched any streams or vids aside from official gameplay ones released by EA/Bioware. BUT - I'm hearing A LOT of negative feedback pretty much across the board. Due to personal reasons, I'm not feeling much excitement in general so I don't have high expectations, deciding to make up my mind after I play it myself. So, hit me. What's wrong with Andromeda? Try to keep it all legible. Spare me the spoilers and keep it simple. Let me explain what is happening with this example: The witcher 3 is shit. It animations are buggy as hell and it shouldn't have been released And afterwards it became game of year and won the most awards in 2015.
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Post by vilegrim on Mar 18, 2017 21:11:55 GMT
It's not a terrible game, but it isn't a great one either, Ryder feels far more preset than any BW protag so far, except maybe the inquis, you select the tone of your agreement, rather than whether you agree, or if you object but do it anyway. You can't be an idealist, or a brutal pragmatist, it feels like a shooter with a skill tree at times, but for all of that, and the known issues with characters looking frankly awful, it's a fun game, a little mindless but fun.
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