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Post by FireAndBlood on Mar 17, 2017 15:20:42 GMT
Except that in Codex of the mother, she is also dark skinned... Two dark skinned parents do not biologically produce white children. One white and one dark skinned parent certainly can.. but not two. Not true, my parents are white but my dad's dad was brown and that's how we ended up being a family with two white sons and two brown sons.
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Post by hathur on Mar 17, 2017 15:21:03 GMT
Alec has a different preset that corresponds to which preset you use, and it doesn't really change to match your customizations. It's an immersion breaker, sure, but Alec and his wife seem to have fairly minor roles (in person) so I can suspend my disbelief enough regarding the whole racial mismatch deal. Yeah it's a minor issue really, just found myself a bit confused going "uhh.. were Scott and I adopted".. but basically shrugged and moved on.. not as if we see him more than a total of a combined 8 minutes of "screen" time anyway. Would be distracting if he was a regular character though.
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Post by Saboru on Mar 17, 2017 15:23:53 GMT
How in the hell did you make a caucasian character? By customising the preset. While presets don't allow changes to shapes/angles of facial features you can alter skin tone and widths, length, height, depth of aspects of the face.
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Post by hathur on Mar 17, 2017 15:25:47 GMT
Except that in Codex of the mother, she is also dark skinned... Two dark skinned parents do not biologically produce white children. One white and one dark skinned parent certainly can.. but not two. Not true, my parents are white but my dad's dad was brown and that's how we ended up being a family with two white sons and two brown sons. Fair enough, genes can and certainly do skip generations.. it's just exceedingly rare and mildly distracting. Though the skin tone is far less distracting than the facial structure of Alec vs my Scott and Sara. Alec looks like an average male born somewhere in Africa.. but scott and sara look like they were from europe (facial features-wise.. ignoring skin tone). Apparently the only thing that passes from your character to your father is eye color (as Alec has bright blue eyes like my character does.. a feature exceedingly rare in people of African origin)
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Post by midnight tea on Mar 17, 2017 15:26:15 GMT
Let me guess...was it sister, head preset 9? Same here, my slavic\european-looking twins got the 'Very Wrong' daddy. And it's not a bug (I've seen the video with the different heads\dads - that's what he is supposed to be for the preset of my choice). They've dropped the ball with this one, imo. At the very least default Alec should have been an option. Yeah, well, either this or mother had cheated on poor old Alec. Except that in Codex of the mother, she is also dark skinned... Two dark skinned parents do not biologically produce white children. One white and one dark skinned parent certainly can.. but not two. Wrong. It really depends which genes are going to be activated. A great deal of dark-skinned people across a lot of parts of the world has a white ancestor there somewhere - and there are likely a ton more people with mixed ancestry in world of ME.
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Post by Mihura on Mar 17, 2017 15:27:39 GMT
Noticed a weird thing.. I made a white / caucasian character (skin tone all the way left), yet Alec Ryder appears as a man of African ethnicity and in the codex the mother appears to be brown / dark skinned as well (east indian descent, etc). Scott was also made caucasian (default scott in fact)... so I'm not sure what's going on. Not really an issue, but it does seem peculiar seeing a blonde haired white character having an african man for a father, and a dark skinned mother as well. Guess I'll just have to head-canon that Sara and Scott were adopted? Not always true for latinos, both my parents are dark skinned latinos and me and my sister are white as ghosts with light eyes. Genetics are funny that way, it is more about facial features than skin color. Although I still think we should be able to customize the Dad too.
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Post by Eshaye on Mar 17, 2017 15:28:07 GMT
I can hear Manveer Heir laughing as he's reading this thread. I just bet......
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Mar 17, 2017 15:29:29 GMT
I can hear Manveer Heir laughing as he's reading this thread. Our savior, heil,
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 17, 2017 15:30:00 GMT
I can hear Manveer Heir laughing as he's reading this thread. I just bet...... If it means anything, I'm also laughing as I read this thread.
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Post by Elsariel on Mar 17, 2017 15:30:08 GMT
How in the hell did you make a caucasian character? By customising the preset. While presets don't allow changes to shapes/angles of facial features you can alter skin tone and widths, length, height, depth of aspects of the face. While this is true, let's be fair. The lightest white in the CC isn't nearly as light as default Ryder's skin tone. They need the slider for Ryder to get a little lighter and whiter. (Yeah, I'm a nerd)
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Mar 17, 2017 15:30:23 GMT
Except that in Codex of the mother, she is also dark skinned... Two dark skinned parents do not biologically produce white children. One white and one dark skinned parent certainly can.. but not two. Not true, my parents are white but my dad's dad was brown and that's how we ended up being a family with two white sons and two brown sons. That person has a BSN Medicine degree, don't argue back.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2017 15:34:37 GMT
Yeah, caucasian people got screwed in Andromeda. Too bad Bioware, you wait...
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Post by Petroshenko on Mar 17, 2017 15:37:02 GMT
How in the hell did you make a caucasian character? Google what caucasian means.
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 17, 2017 15:39:09 GMT
Not true, my parents are white but my dad's dad was brown and that's how we ended up being a family with two white sons and two brown sons. That person has a BSN Medicine degree, don't argue back. What a waste of internet rupees. My BSN law degree is way more valuable.
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Post by NRieh on Mar 17, 2017 15:40:40 GMT
Dad's skin tone always matches that of the unedited preset. And there's no fucking way to know about that while you're at the CC! You only see Alec after you're already ~15 mins into the game. Not to mention that those are the editable presets, it makes no sense to allow creation of the white siblings for the hard-locked black dad. Now, don't get me wrong, it's not like I have a problem with the people of color, it's just a totally fucked up feature, that had already brought extra confusion and annoyance. It did not work well with DA2 (which had much more simple models), and there were no reasons to believe that it would work now, with FB, which has plenty of facial issues 'as is'. I'm on the PC, and I'm pretty sure that the first mod to come on Nexus is going to be the 'dad replacer'.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2017 15:41:05 GMT
Except that in Codex of the mother, she is also dark skinned... Two dark skinned parents do not biologically produce white children. One white and one dark skinned parent certainly can.. but not two. Wrong. It really depends which genes are going to be activated. A great deal of dark-skinned people across a lot of parts of the world has a white ancestor there somewhere - and there are likely a ton more people with mixed ancestry in world of ME. OMG, so cute... I am sorry for being totally off-topic, but my womanly side just went all aww! and ah! and oww! It's just so adorable, I think I am gonna be smiling for the rest of the morning.
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Post by Saboru on Mar 17, 2017 15:43:33 GMT
By customising the preset. While presets don't allow changes to shapes/angles of facial features you can alter skin tone and widths, length, height, depth of aspects of the face. While this is true, let's be fair. The lightest white in the CC isn't nearly as light as default Ryder's skin tone. They need the slider for Ryder to get a little lighter and whiter. (Yeah, I'm a nerd) Ah I hadn't tried them all, limited time and that. I did one with a light skinned caucasian appearance though. True I don't think they were as white as me for example. But I'm like that Billy Connolly joke, I'd have to sunbathe to get white, I'm more a pale blue.
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Post by slimgrin on Mar 17, 2017 15:47:14 GMT
How in the hell did you make a caucasian character? Google what caucasian means. Uhm ok. White-skinned; of European origin. The one preset I'd use for Caucasian looks like she got baked by radiation. The rest have nearly the same brown skin tone - and with all you have limited tone adjustment.
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Mar 17, 2017 15:49:43 GMT
Your father is actually the mailman.
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Post by NRieh on Mar 17, 2017 15:50:59 GMT
Oh please! I can headcanon that they had gene-programmed their kids to match granny's favourite movie cast if I want to. There are 100001 possible answesr on this 'Why?..'
The sloppy feature IS sloppy. It's not working as intended. It was supposed to provide us with the 'proper and fitting' parents, and not to annoy us.
It's like you buy a pair of shoes and find them mismatched, you're very unlikely to accept manager's talks about the 'seasonal trends of high fashion'.
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Post by Elsariel on Mar 17, 2017 15:53:07 GMT
While this is true, let's be fair. The lightest white in the CC isn't nearly as light as default Ryder's skin tone. They need the slider for Ryder to get a little lighter and whiter. (Yeah, I'm a nerd) Ah I hadn't tried them all, limited time and that. I did one with a light skinned caucasian appearance though. True I don't think they were as white as me for example. But I'm like that Billy Connolly joke, I'd have to sunbathe to get white, I'm more a pale blue. I'm not white white but my skin tone is lighter than anything they offer in the CC. I mean, it's not a deal breaker or anything but it is a little irksome.
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Post by ellehaym on Mar 17, 2017 15:58:15 GMT
It's been a while since playing Dragon Age 2, but I recall that your family will be roughly the same skin tone your character regardless of presets?
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Post by Petroshenko on Mar 17, 2017 15:59:30 GMT
Google what caucasian means. Uhm ok. White-skinned; of European origin. The one preset I'd use for Caucasian looks like she got baked by radiation. The rest have nearly the same brown skin tone - and with all you have limited tone adjustment. No, actually google it instead of saying you did when you clearly did not. Darker skinned people in India, Middle East, Northern Africa, Southern Europe, Hispanics, Caucasus region etc are also all caucasian. Sure, there's no very light preset like default Scott/Sara, but that's a different thing.
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Post by Rannik on Mar 17, 2017 16:05:33 GMT
Google what caucasian means. Uhm ok. White-skinned; of European origin. That's not what caucasian means...
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Post by Jurus on Mar 17, 2017 16:10:12 GMT
How in the hell did you make a caucasian character? Bioware's idea of diversity. 50 Shades of Brown
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