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Post by bigbad on Mar 19, 2017 14:27:29 GMT
The weapons in BF1 are limited to bang bangs and boom booms and the weapons in MEA go zap, zzzzing, whuum-whuum, ba da BOOM and bang bang too so the visuals can be insanely different and large.
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Post by Ivory Samoan on Mar 19, 2017 14:35:11 GMT
Holy shit, all those people on Neogaf who are butthurt about the whole thing. I get it, what happened to that woman wasn't very nice. I'm not going to deny that and I certainly don't condone it. But damn Neogaf takes it to whole new level saying stuff like saying the "gamers are misogynists", "I don't want to be a gamer anymore!" and my favorite; "It's the GamerGate boogeyman". Kek. It really is a fucking scene, man. As a proud GAF poster, it saddens me to see this witch hunt start on the site. It's had it's share of victims, Shinobi probably has left GAF for good, a shining light of positivity in the Mass Effect community, and this has all snowballed out of everyone's need to pick holes in something we should be celebrating: the release of a new Mass Effect game. I'm ashamed of us as a group right now, gamers, adventurers....this is some sad shit, and the way we deal with it has to change.
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Post by Elessar on Mar 19, 2017 14:41:38 GMT
BF1 has some really nice graphics and done with Frostbite, too. That's great, it shows what can be done with Frostbite. That being said, there are multiple significant differences between the two games. BF1 SP is a short game. That means less time spent on story, more time spent on graphics. MEA has a long SP campaign and much more open world to explore. BF1 is a WW1 game that has explosions and etc, but the effects are not as large and varied as the many visuals you get in MEA. The weapons in BF1 are limited to bang bangs and boom booms and the weapons in MEA go zap, zzzzing, whuum-whuum, ba da BOOM and bang bang too so the visuals can be insanely different and large. Similarly, when you look up reviews of BF1 (I haven't played it yet- it looks fun and I think I will), you see that it has a lot of bugs too. Developers will place priorities on different things and it seems some childish gamers just think its all so easy to make the perfect bug free game exactly how THEY want it. It seems more of the MEA Devs efforts was on the environments and the effects and the open worlds, not on making the most realistic looking faces and an infinite number of details in CC. I am fine with that. I don't play the CC and don't live for the cutscenes. I want good gameplay and environments to play in. I firmly believe that cyberbullying should be looked at more harshly. Cracking a few jokes is one thing, but when the jokes turn vicious and into to bullying- just plain getting out of hand, action should be taken against these people. It doesn't matter if its a 12 year old kid threatening someones life over something as childish as a game, or a 30 year old doing the same, there should be punishment. There seems to be no punishment for any vile or criminal actions anymore. I am all for proper punishment for the crime committed. I am seeing so many people hiding behind the anonymity of the internet and being as vile and threatening as possible and that its just wrong. I am also seeing the pack mentality of some that will gang up and stalk and repeatedly attack or threaten someone, which is also just wrong. The internet has become no more than a high school with its childish cliques and gangs and bullies and drama. Its really sad how with all of this technology and advancements, the world has become so much LESS civilized. . I agree with you for the most part (especially this whole part about the internet and the awful scumbags behind it). However, one could argue Bioware's biggest assets have been its characters. Cinematic storytelling, believable characters, digital actors, all that has been high on their list for years. All the more surprising that they didn't invest more in that to keep pace with the times, on their flagship franchise above all. And again, i don't expect Battlefield level animations and assets but still somewhat better than what the game largely offers. Some efforts have been made (a few scenes were made with motion capture as far as i understand) but i feel like it only highlights how subpar some of the other stuff is. That said, it still is not as bad as the internet would want you to believe, it's okay for the most part.
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Post by Dabrikishaw on Mar 19, 2017 14:51:35 GMT
There's noting wrong with tying to figure out why an element the game turned out the way it did. Looking into development can be a fun way to pass the time and increase your knowledge of the industry. The real problem here was the neckbeard harassment campaign that started because way too many people on the internet lack any sense and prefer hurting anyone they please first and for most. And even the non-harassers are so unemphatic to the situation (and others like it) that they see nothing wrong with this brand of "criticism" and champion it on.
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Post by pantherdane on Mar 19, 2017 15:37:34 GMT
BF1 has some really nice graphics and done with Frostbite, too. That's great, it shows what can be done with Frostbite. That being said, there are multiple significant differences between the two games. BF1 SP is a short game. That means less time spent on story, more time spent on graphics. MEA has a long SP campaign and much more open world to explore. BF1 is a WW1 game that has explosions and etc, but the effects are not as large and varied as the many visuals you get in MEA. The weapons in BF1 are limited to bang bangs and boom booms and the weapons in MEA go zap, zzzzing, whuum-whuum, ba da BOOM and bang bang too so the visuals can be insanely different and large. Similarly, when you look up reviews of BF1 (I haven't played it yet- it looks fun and I think I will), you see that it has a lot of bugs too. Developers will place priorities on different things and it seems some childish gamers just think its all so easy to make the perfect bug free game exactly how THEY want it. It seems more of the MEA Devs efforts was on the environments and the effects and the open worlds, not on making the most realistic looking faces and an infinite number of details in CC. I am fine with that. I don't play the CC and don't live for the cutscenes. I want good gameplay and environments to play in. I firmly believe that cyberbullying should be looked at more harshly. Cracking a few jokes is one thing, but when the jokes turn vicious and into to bullying- just plain getting out of hand, action should be taken against these people. It doesn't matter if its a 12 year old kid threatening someones life over something as childish as a game, or a 30 year old doing the same, there should be punishment. There seems to be no punishment for any vile or criminal actions anymore. I am all for proper punishment for the crime committed. I am seeing so many people hiding behind the anonymity of the internet and being as vile and threatening as possible and that its just wrong. I am also seeing the pack mentality of some that will gang up and stalk and repeatedly attack or threaten someone, which is also just wrong. The internet has become no more than a high school with its childish cliques and gangs and bullies and drama. Its really sad how with all of this technology and advancements, the world has become so much LESS civilized. . I agree with you for the most part (especially this whole part about the internet and the awful scumbags behind it). However, one could argue Bioware's biggest assets have been its characters. Cinematic storytelling, believable characters, digital actors, all that has been high on their list for years. All the more surprising that they didn't invest more in that to keep pace with the times, on their flagship franchise above all. And again, i don't expect Battlefield level animations and assets but still somewhat better than what the game largely offers. Some efforts have been made (a few scenes were made with motion capture as far as i understand) but i feel like it only highlights how subpar some of the other stuff is. That said, it still is not as bad as the internet would want you to believe, it's okay for the most part. I can get behind valid arguments like you pointed out. Unfortunately most of the arguments haven't been about real things. I do expect several standalone patches and DLC with patches (fixing issues after release - common in the industry today) and I expect those patches to at least ATTEMPT to address the issues so many are concerned with and voicing right now. There are issues to be fixed, no doubt at all. I hope they can make a CC that has 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 different facial tweaks and I hope their future models have individual pores in their skin you can count when you zoom in and hair that flows and looks more real than real hair. Even if that happens some perpetual complainers will just move on to a new complaint. There is sometimes good that comes from complaints on Twitter and in forums, but I watched the D3 forum for years and watched the vocal people complain constantly and watched the Devs address many those issues and THEN watched the same crybabies cry and cry about NEW issues that they claimed were just GAMEBREAKING fatal flaws. It can be a neverending cycle of a few individuals that are NEVER satisfied and seem to be just playing the Devs. "No green M&Ms or I quit. It's in my contract" lol
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Post by degs29 on Mar 19, 2017 15:50:54 GMT
Everytime I drive by the "KotakuInAction" GamerGate thing on Reddit I can feel my whole body curling up in cringe. They best rename that shit to "DisingenousDetectives" but for what it's worth they do dig up good info. Too bad they all use it to make hiveminded threats or e-assaults. In honor of my new name I should also say I have a feeling, that is I "guess", this is some of her work But I can't be sure and it's all baseless speculation. But it would explain why the game goes from having really well animated "gestures" to really puzzling, half-done, scrambled eye expressions in every other scene. Who knows! Haha, it's like they saw the Shrek memes from the EA Play demo and decided to make her even more Shrek-like!
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Post by degs29 on Mar 19, 2017 15:53:27 GMT
Holy shit, all those people on Neogaf who are butthurt about the whole thing. I get it, what happened to that woman wasn't very nice. I'm not going to deny that and I certainly don't condone it. But damn Neogaf takes it to whole new level saying stuff like saying the "gamers are misogynists", "I don't want to be a gamer anymore!" and my favorite; "It's the GamerGate boogeyman". Kek. It really is a fucking scene, man. As a proud GAF poster, it saddens me to see this witch hunt start on the site. It's had it's share of victims, Shinobi probably has left GAF for good, a shining light of positivity in the Mass Effect community, and this has all snowballed out of everyone's need to pick holes in something we should be celebrating: the release of a new Mass Effect game. I'm ashamed of us as a group right now, gamers, adventurers....this is some sad shit, and the way we deal with it has to change. Just remember the loudest people are often the minority. I think most of us realize the game has flaws, some significant, but we appreciate what the game got right and certainly aren't directing hate at anyone.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 16:08:53 GMT
Holy shit, all those people on Neogaf who are butthurt about the whole thing. I get it, what happened to that woman wasn't very nice. I'm not going to deny that and I certainly don't condone it. But damn Neogaf takes it to whole new level saying stuff like saying the "gamers are misogynists", "I don't want to be a gamer anymore!" and my favorite; "It's the GamerGate boogeyman". Kek. Sounds accurate. She was subjected to misogynistic harassment and the guy this nonsense originated with was part of GamerGate.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 17:31:22 GMT
Holy shit, all those people on Neogaf who are butthurt about the whole thing. I get it, what happened to that woman wasn't very nice. I'm not going to deny that and I certainly don't condone it. But damn Neogaf takes it to whole new level saying stuff like saying the "gamers are misogynists", "I don't want to be a gamer anymore!" and my favorite; "It's the GamerGate boogeyman". Kek. Sounds accurate. She was subjected to misogynistic harassment and the guy this nonsense originated with was part of GamerGate. Still doesn't turn all gamers into misogynists. Only the ones that harassed her, right? Neogaf would have you believe that 80% of the gaming community is full of these kind of people.
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Post by ebevan91 on Mar 19, 2017 17:37:30 GMT
Holy shit, all those people on Neogaf who are butthurt about the whole thing. I get it, what happened to that woman wasn't very nice. I'm not going to deny that and I certainly don't condone it. But damn Neogaf takes it to whole new level saying stuff like saying the "gamers are misogynists", "I don't want to be a gamer anymore!" and my favorite; "It's the GamerGate boogeyman". Kek. You should just stop visiting Neogaf altogether. I got banned from there during the US presidential election for posting something from a conservative point of view. You can be 99% liberal (I actually lean right more than left but my point still stands) but if 1% of you is conservative you'll be called a hateful bigot sexist racist nazi like I was.
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Post by ToLazy4Name on Mar 19, 2017 17:40:23 GMT
OH MY GOD THE EVIL GAMERGATE IS AT IT AGAIN
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 17:43:33 GMT
Holy shit, all those people on Neogaf who are butthurt about the whole thing. I get it, what happened to that woman wasn't very nice. I'm not going to deny that and I certainly don't condone it. But damn Neogaf takes it to whole new level saying stuff like saying the "gamers are misogynists", "I don't want to be a gamer anymore!" and my favorite; "It's the GamerGate boogeyman". Kek. You should just stop visiting Neogaf altogether. I got banned from there during the US presidential election for posting something from a conservative point of view. You can be 99% liberal but if 1% of you is conservative you'll be called a hateful bigot sexist racist nazi like I was. Oh I know what you mean, I don't have an account there but it's a crazy place. I've visited a lot of forums and I have never seen moderators who are so sensitive and overly controlling like the ones on there. If you even slightly disagree with what is considered "normal" on that site you immediately get banned. The mods here are pretty based compared to the crazy people over there. The reason I visit that place is because seeing their reaction on some events is downright amusing.
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Post by The Arbiter on Mar 19, 2017 17:47:21 GMT
When people get angry on silly things instead of corruption, endless wars, foreign invasions and god knows what... I'd rather see this planet get obliterated by the Reapers, the Flood or the enslavement of the human race by the combine.
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Mar 19, 2017 18:04:26 GMT
Disgusting behaviour and to be honest, expected since so many fucktards are fanning the flames with this shit. If you've jumped on the hate bandwagon and revelled in exciting the riot, you human, you are a blight on galactic purity! This is why I fucking love you.
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Post by smilesja on Mar 19, 2017 18:22:32 GMT
More like it was tactfully derailed by the accused(media) including one of Polygon's own editors who openly supported adultery. Still would of faded out in the long run due to the AAA industries practices being effectively accepted at this point. You and others are correct though that Bioware and others will be able to leverage these trolls behaviors against critics.Which is a damn shame too... Critic: "So BioWare let us talk about MEA's animations?" BioWare: "More importantly we need to discuss the harassment, and abuse female devs face, LGBQT, and intersectional feminism." Critic: BioWare: And nothing gets done because people don't know when to dial it down.
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Post by smilesja on Mar 19, 2017 18:27:09 GMT
Besides isn't Ralph going to jail soon?
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Post by abedsbrother on Mar 19, 2017 18:34:00 GMT
Don't really care who made the animations in Andromeda - they're bad, even compared to DA:I. Doesn't seem like the kind of thing that's a simple and easy fix, either. Assuming the (poor) quality of the animations is consistent throughout the game, that's a ton of content to check & tweak. So people can rant, rave, and blame as much as they want, a fix will come later rather than sooner (if at all). "If at all" because while BioWare has shown willingness to fix their past games, it's not clear what effect this will have. Hard to imagine it will completely torpedo the launch, but EA has to be watching - and they have been known to close studios following a massive failure...
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Post by Lorn on Mar 19, 2017 19:20:10 GMT
So, as some of you probably know there's another controversy about this game . Comes with being a sequel to Mass Effect 3 I think. Apparently a lot of so-called KotakuInAction'ers are attacking a former EA employee on twitter with hate and sexually derogatory crap because she revealed herself to be the "Lead Facial Animator" for Andromeda. This is actually true according to her Linkedin, but her Twitter info was out of date. She left Montreal and EA in Feburary 2016. Her other credentials makes it seem like she's professional actually. So she's not responsible for making crap animations. I think what happened is that she left and BioWare's had to compensate ever since, but it's just a guess based on what I saw on Linkedin and what I read up on the controversy. But do me or BioWare a favor and don't jump on this bandwagon please. I aim to inform you of this whilist clearing the air for misconceptions, hopefully, because it seems there's plenty of them right now including some very transparent damage control. For safety reasons I'm not linking to her profile but there's plenty of info about this shit elsewhere. Whatever you do, don't tweet crappy things. So she lists that she is the "Lead Animator" for Mass Effect Andromeda, leaves the company in February of 2016, and doesn't update her twitter info for over a year? How is that "GamerGates" problem exactly? Flynn released a statement stating "A former member of BioWare was MISIDENTIFIED...", which I suppose is true seeing as she is the one that misidentified her in the first place. The fault for this seems to lie entirely with her. On a side note, her LinkedIn states that she is currently working for EA, so something's fishy with this story... Frostbite isn't the best game for facial animations, and animations in general are hard unless you're using mocap, which a lot of larger companies do nowadays. Honestly I think everyone's freaking out too much about it. I come from the era of square boobs and flat faces. I'll make fun of the animating errors or the seemingly low quality, and i do expect better quality in the future, but as long as we don't get a repeat of Unity's 'missing faces', I'm good. Yes, BioWare, which owns three separate studios, makes AAA games with large budgets (that usually do not correspond with the quality of the end product), is a "smaller" studio. My stance is that there is a problem with journalism the way it has been cultivized in gaming, and it's even worse in my own country's game journalism just comparing their article quality, the bias, the advertisement to actual journalism that isn't about gaming or multi-subject journalism that covers gaming as part of a bigger agenda, it's something that needed to be called into action (or whatever the flying fuck it means) but just not in this way. I know half of the GG crowd are just B-tards who jumped on an opportunity-bandwagon for mayhem and the real GG'ers just shot themselves in the foot by starting something akin to anarchy... oh well, I've said enough, but really, there's so much bullshit involved with everthing KIA is, let alone the entire gamergate fiasco. So what you're saying is, you're a member of GamerGate. I'm glad that's been settled. My stance is that there is a problem with journalism the way it has been cultivized in gaming, and it's even worse in my own country's game journalism just comparing their article quality, the bias, the advertisement to actual journalism that isn't about gaming or multi-subject journalism that covers gaming as part of a bigger agenda, it's something that needed to be called into action (or whatever the flying fuck it means) but just not in this way. I know half of the GG crowd are just B-tards who jumped on an opportunity-bandwagon for mayhem and the real GG'ers just shot themselves in the foot by starting something akin to anarchy... oh well, I've said enough, but really, there's so much bullshit involved with everthing KIA is, let alone the entire gamergate fiasco. GG was a short lived consumer revolt with no staying power, whose corpse is continually reanimated by their political enemies in order to serve as a Scooby Dooesque boogeyman for their clickbait articles, while KIA are Reddit boy scouts who have been irrelevant for years now. Those clowns who are harassing that former Bio employee are reminiscent of the ones who attacked Hepler and seem like lone wolves . And I'm just quoting this hoping more people actually read it.
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Post by vonuber on Mar 19, 2017 19:25:52 GMT
So she lists that she is the "Lead Animator" for Mass Effect Andromeda, leaves the company in February of 2016, and doesn't update her twitter info for over a year? How is that "GamerGates" problem exactly? Flynn released a statement stating "A former member of BioWare was MISIDENTIFIED...", which I suppose is true seeing as she is the one that misidentified her in the first place. The fault for this seems to lie entirely with her. No, no, a thousand times no. THERE IS NO FAULT WITH HER. AT ALL. She was an employee. That's it. That does not give anyone - and certainly not a bunch of fucktard neckbeards - any right whatsoever to harass her, especially over a bloody computer game. I can't believe I even have to write this. What is wrong with you people.
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Post by ToLazy4Name on Mar 19, 2017 19:28:34 GMT
So she lists that she is the "Lead Animator" for Mass Effect Andromeda, leaves the company in February of 2016, and doesn't update her twitter info for over a year? How is that "GamerGates" problem exactly? Flynn released a statement stating "A former member of BioWare was MISIDENTIFIED...", which I suppose is true seeing as she is the one that misidentified her in the first place. The fault for this seems to lie entirely with her. No, no, a thousand times no. THERE IS NO FAULT WITH HER. AT ALL. She was an employee. That's it. That does not give anyone - and certainly not a bunch of fucktard neckbeards - any right whatsoever to harass her, especially over a bloody computer game. I can't believe I even have to write this. What is wrong with you people. >game is shit >people want to complain to who they think had a part in making the game shit >idiot dumbfuck on Twitter has her bio saying she's the one they should complain to >gets upset when people complain to her lol
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Post by Lorn on Mar 19, 2017 19:33:40 GMT
So she lists that she is the "Lead Animator" for Mass Effect Andromeda, leaves the company in February of 2016, and doesn't update her twitter info for over a year? How is that "GamerGates" problem exactly? Flynn released a statement stating "A former member of BioWare was MISIDENTIFIED...", which I suppose is true seeing as she is the one that misidentified her in the first place. The fault for this seems to lie entirely with her. No, no, a thousand times no. THERE IS NO FAULT WITH HER. AT ALL.She was an employee. That's it. That does not give anyone - and certainly not a bunch of fucktard neckbeards - any right whatsoever to harass her, especially over a bloody computer game. I can't believe I even have to write this. What is wrong with you people. Really? How is it not her fault she forgot to update her work information, or worse yet that she falsely claimed to be the Lead Animator for MEA? If Flynn is to be believed she was "MISIDENTIFIED" (again by herself) to be the Lead Animator, someone didn't go onto her Twitter and type in "Lead Animator for MEA" for her, she did that herself knowing that she wasn't the lead animator to begin with. Of course, BioWare could just go out and state who the Lead Animator ACTUALLY is or to state what her actual role on MEA was in order to actually deflect the criticism of BioWare's work, but that wouldn't fit the narrative that BioWare is currently pushing about the state of the animations. BioWare is perfectly happy with using this poor woman as a scapegoat for the state of the animations, and the only thing they're willing to do about it is to blame their audience. Clearly BioWare hates women. And now, this: www.gamesradar.com/no-fix-incoming-for-mass-effect-andromedas-animation-says-lead-designer-youre-seeing-the-day-one-game/
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Mar 19, 2017 19:35:13 GMT
So, as some of you probably know there's another controversy about this game . Comes with being a sequel to Mass Effect 3 I think. Apparently a lot of so-called KotakuInAction'ers are attacking a former EA employee on twitter with hate and sexually derogatory crap because she revealed herself to be the "Lead Facial Animator" for Andromeda. This is actually true according to her Linkedin, but her Twitter info was out of date. She left Montreal and EA in Feburary 2016. Her other credentials makes it seem like she's professional actually. So she's not responsible for making crap animations. I think what happened is that she left and BioWare's had to compensate ever since, but it's just a guess based on what I saw on Linkedin and what I read up on the controversy. But do me or BioWare a favor and don't jump on this bandwagon please. I aim to inform you of this whilist clearing the air for misconceptions, hopefully, because it seems there's plenty of them right now including some very transparent damage control. For safety reasons I'm not linking to her profile but there's plenty of info about this shit elsewhere. Whatever you do, don't tweet crappy things. So she lists that she is the "Lead Animator" for Mass Effect Andromeda, leaves the company in February of 2016, and doesn't update her twitter info for over a year? How is that "GamerGates" problem exactly? Flynn released a statement stating "A former member of BioWare was MISIDENTIFIED...", which I suppose is true seeing as she is the one that misidentified her in the first place. The fault for this seems to lie entirely with her. On a side note, her LinkedIn states that she is currently working for EA, so something's fishy with this story... My stance is that there is a problem with journalism the way it has been cultivized in gaming, and it's even worse in my own country's game journalism just comparing their article quality, the bias, the advertisement to actual journalism that isn't about gaming or multi-subject journalism that covers gaming as part of a bigger agenda, it's something that needed to be called into action (or whatever the flying fuck it means) but just not in this way. I know half of the GG crowd are just B-tards who jumped on an opportunity-bandwagon for mayhem and the real GG'ers just shot themselves in the foot by starting something akin to anarchy... oh well, I've said enough, but really, there's so much bullshit involved with everthing KIA is, let alone the entire gamergate fiasco. So what you're saying is, you're a member of GamerGate.I'm glad that's been settled. Thanks for putting words in my mouth. No, I'm very hands off about the GamerGate issue. I didn't even understand half of it when it was going back in... 2015? I know enough to know it's bullshit because a bunch of 4channers exploited the issue going on about games journalism to destructively target and harrass people; that was genuine. The need to look into ethics of journalism however was sound IMO and still is (unless game journalism dies because of the internet and entrepeneurs). As for the bolded in the first quote and your response, I don't buy Aaryn's statement as far as the "she was misidentified" statement goes. The Linkedin is accurate and for reference, Chris Schlerf also left in feb 2016 but his Twitter did not update for more than 6 months until fans found out he had been removed from the blog and then once the cat was out of the bag he announced it officially. Same situation here. I don't understand what you say about it being "GamerGate's problem". I'll leave it at that for now.
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Post by smilesja on Mar 19, 2017 19:38:10 GMT
No, no, a thousand times no. THERE IS NO FAULT WITH HER. AT ALL. She was an employee. That's it. That does not give anyone - and certainly not a bunch of fucktard neckbeards - any right whatsoever to harass her, especially over a bloody computer game. I can't believe I even have to write this. What is wrong with you people. >game is shit>people want to complain to who they think had a part in making the game shit >idiot dumbfuck on Twitter has her bio saying she's the one they should complain to >gets upset when people complain to her lol In your opinion.
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Post by ToLazy4Name on Mar 19, 2017 19:41:17 GMT
>game is shit>people want to complain to who they think had a part in making the game shit >idiot dumbfuck on Twitter has her bio saying she's the one they should complain to >gets upset when people complain to her lol In your opinion. who you think you steppin to best getcho low tier opinions outta here
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Post by Lorn on Mar 19, 2017 19:42:18 GMT
So she lists that she is the "Lead Animator" for Mass Effect Andromeda, leaves the company in February of 2016, and doesn't update her twitter info for over a year? How is that "GamerGates" problem exactly? Flynn released a statement stating "A former member of BioWare was MISIDENTIFIED...", which I suppose is true seeing as she is the one that misidentified her in the first place. The fault for this seems to lie entirely with her. On a side note, her LinkedIn states that she is currently working for EA, so something's fishy with this story... So what you're saying is, you're a member of GamerGate.I'm glad that's been settled. Thanks for putting words in my mouth. No, I'm very hands off about the GamerGate issue. I didn't even understand half of it when it was going back in... 2015? I know enough to know it's bullshit because a bunch of 4channers exploited the issue going on about games journalism to destructively target and harrass people; that was genuine. The need to look into ethics of journalism however was sound IMO and still is (unless game journalism dies because of the internet and entrepeneurs). As for the bolded in the first quote and your response, I don't buy Aaryn's statement as far as the "she was misidentified" statement goes. The Linkedin is accurate and for reference, Chris Schlerf also left in feb 2016 but his Twitter did not update for more than 6 months until fans found out he had been removed from the blog and then once the cat was out of the bag he announced it officially. Same situation here. I don't understand what you say about it being "GamerGate's problem". I'll leave it at that for now. I'll say it again, besides her Twitter, there is no indication that she was the lead animator for MEA. If we take part of what Flynn said as is, her being misidentified, then that would indicate that she was never the lead animator at all. Again, the fault for all of this lies with her either misrepresenting herself on Twitter, or not updating her Twitter account. My bet is on the former.
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