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Post by Croatsky on Mar 26, 2017 9:21:23 GMT
The final mission and ending are one of the most beautiful things I have ever seen in video games.
The story, the combat, the characters. All of it was done amazingly well. And your choices, things you did in side quests, sure as hell at least feel they matter. Too see people you aided and saved helping you in final mission, not just in super amazing cutscenes, but also come and fight alongside you. To see your squadmates that you didn't select still come and aid you in final boss fight, is just... my jaw dropped and I nearly cried how happy I was.
This is what I wanted in ME3, yet it took us a whole new galaxy to get to this point. This is, without a shadow of the doubt, the best final mission and ending to all ME games. And to not speak of the post-ending epilogue stuff that was never seen before from ME games. My God, I loved it!
Also to add to it. Played on Insanity, 87 hours, 96% completion.
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Post by geoffreyomega on Mar 26, 2017 15:16:09 GMT
A copy / paste of ME3 ending with a unification that I didn't care of with the same old cliché to solve. I didn't even considered Archon being a villain until the very end of the game where he capture your sister/brother. So far he did things previously that shown no real threat or impact on me beside turning Angaran to Kett but I'm an Alien too compared to them so I don't know the whole story behind it, nor it would be really developed beside "they conquer andromeda bit by bit" bad guy cliché that doesn't look bad guy at all. I have no motive to go after him since the first 50% of the game. He didn't kill my dad. He attacks probably because I'm foreign Alien to him and he's more warlike than the Angaran. So when I finally get his plan at the end I'm like: "oh seriously? It's already the end? I thought the game was only started to look like Mass Effect. Ya know, cinematic, sf story, characters that actually do something" but nah, it was already the end
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Post by noviere on Mar 26, 2017 15:25:58 GMT
Finished the game this morning -- 90% completion, 70.5 hours played, normal difficulty.
Overall, very happy with how it ended.
I think I'd be fine with a new protagonist and a time jump for the next game though. This game did a great job of setting a foundation for the future.
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Post by prism28 on Mar 26, 2017 18:26:54 GMT
I'm glad that Captain Dunn can survive the final mission if you have the other three Pathfinders. While she is a minor character, I like her so glad to see her death not be mandatory. Curious though, wouldn't it be enough if you save and side with Sarissa? She's the one that saves her after all
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 26, 2017 18:45:42 GMT
I'm glad that Captain Dunn can survive the final mission if you have the other three Pathfinders. While she is a minor character, I like her so glad to see her death not be mandatory. Curious though, wouldn't it be enough if you save and side with Sarissa? She's the one that saves her after all From how the cutscene before goes, the Salarian and Turian Pathfinders are able to clear away the Kett fighters to give Sarissa or Vederia an opening to save her. Where if you don't have those two, they can't get close enough to help.
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Post by SwobyJ on Mar 27, 2017 1:39:15 GMT
yep, him. I mean I see why it would be better to keep it open but the "I wanna know everything!!!!!!" part of me really wants it to be confirmed I doubt it is the Illusive Man, considering Bioware said Cerberus wasn't involved with the project due to focusing on other things. I suspect the Benefactor is actually a group of individuals, sort of like the Illuminati in the Deus Ex franchise. That's something Bioware hasn't done before in terms of villains. Now TIM may have been a member, but I don't think he was involved personally. In any event, the whole Benefactor plot screams sequel or maybe DLC to me so we'll know sooner or later. I'm glad that the fans predicted the real reason why the Andromeda Initiative was created, or at least the repurposed reason. Yeah. Like, I think TIM may be involved in things, or especially related to things (even seeing so much of Cora's story I'm still not convinced she isn't related to him in some way), but its okay if he's a 'trilogy-focused character' to say the least. While 'benefactor' could instead be a 'andromeda focused character(s)'. Even a personification of elite circles off screen in the trilogy who knew more about the Reapers, and more, than the public would know. Would have to be too secret and/or irrelevant for entities like the Shadow Broker and others to prioritize though.
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Post by SwobyJ on Mar 27, 2017 1:42:23 GMT
I enjoyed Andromeda but I wish the main story was longer. It was most reminiscent of ME1, which I wasn't expecting. The story isn't very intricate but I don't think the original trilogy was either. I'm kind of tired of Bioware having all these mysteries that you have to wait years to find anything about as in DA. I'm hoping this thing with the Jardaan and the Kett won't be dragged on to the point where it's more annoying than interesting. I think the ending wasn't bad. I'm hoping for DLC soon. NOTE: I've only played the first parts of the game and watched a lot more. I hope Kett focus goes on only 1-2 games more at max. Big antagonists but I hope never the big big central ones, at least beyond a next game? I hope 'Remnant' focus ends with DLC here and it becomes Jardaan stuff later. I hope Angarans, other than maybe a DLC aspect, don't get focus again at least until its a very good idea. They got their arc and they should only matter relatively more if it makes a lot of sense and can be done in a compelling way. Scourge will be a big deal and hopefully expanded and a bigger deal than the Kett (which can get expanded too - its just, uh, we had Archon and all that jazz). Nexus can be a hub, even major hub, though I'd prefer if it gets more the ME2 treatment and goes relatively limited while we get more urbanized and metropolitan environments throughout more regions (I want this for DA4 too). I'd also like relatively more separation of story between existing races. I'm good with a 'we are unified, lets grow and progress together' story, but now I'm more interested in the future of HOW this happens. I also suspect that there's more relation to the trilogy/Milky Way than meets the eye, and I want follow up there. Maybe Bioware indeed could release a MET remaster in the meantime to remind players, if so. *shrug*
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2017 2:36:50 GMT
The Jardaan pretty much are remnant now. It sounds like they all got killed off by the scourge. What I want to know in future dlc is where the hell did the kett come from and what created the scourge. The scourge is more interesting to me than the Kett.
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Post by dadithinkimgay on Mar 27, 2017 3:03:08 GMT
It was cute, but in my opinion, too many questions left up in the air that didn't do much justice to the plot. Like, it would have been nice to learn more about Meridan, or the original Kett, or more about their motivations. Each revelation in this game just garnered more questions, which was exciting and made the story an enjoyable experience, but I think there should have been less of that for the ending. With that being said I'm looking forward to the next game. The story is intriguing and I love the notion that Mass Effect 1-3 centers around destruction of life on a grand scale and how Andromeda is centered around creating and sustaining life on a grand scale. Really interested to see where the story goes.
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Post by SwobyJ on Mar 27, 2017 3:03:50 GMT
The Jardaan pretty much are remnant now. It sounds like they all got killed off by the scourge. What I want to know in future dlc is where the hell did the kett come from and what created the scourge. The scourge is more interesting to me than the Kett. Yeah but... come on, new games 'reveal' all sorts of stuff. Heleus Cluster is an isolated story section of Andromeda galaxy by very intentional design. Its the intro, even fringes, of what's 'really' going on.
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Post by TheEmptyRoad on Mar 27, 2017 3:30:16 GMT
I liked that not everything was resolved.
Obvious DLC/Sequel-bait is obvious, but I knew that going in.
For those saying it was a 'too-happy' ending and there was no tension...Seriously? Besides the Krogan thing and the Angara still not completely trusting you (Read between the lines during Jaal's and the Moshae's conversations during the epilogue. Seeds for future tension. Especially a remark about 'What will happend when we no longer have a common enemy.), not to mention the Roekkar and the fact that the Exiles are still Exiled. My Ryder is already planning some shady shit in regards to Tann - just wish a DLC/Sequel will let me act on it.
Oh, also. Primus there at the end, and the fact that the Archon was just one piece of a MUCH larger puzzle.
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Post by blanks on Mar 27, 2017 4:06:09 GMT
There's a terminal entry about the Angara possibly being some sort of sleeper agents that could be activated somewhere in that Meridian epilogue scene. Whatever comes next, Bain Massani needs to join the squad.
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Post by kastrenzo on Mar 27, 2017 4:29:27 GMT
I liked that not everything was resolved. Obvious DLC/Sequel-bait is obvious, but I knew that going in. For those saying it was a 'too-happy' ending and there was no tension...Seriously? Besides the Krogan thing and the Angara still not completely trusting you (Read between the lines during Jaal's and the Moshae's conversations during the epilogue. Seeds for future tension. Especially a remark about 'What will happend when we no longer have a common enemy.), not to mention the Roekkar and the fact that the Exiles are still Exiled. My Ryder is already planning some shady shit in regards to Tann - just wish a DLC/Sequel will let me act on it. Oh, also. Primus there at the end, and the fact that the Archon was just one piece of a MUCH larger puzzle. for all intents and purposes I believe they have a sequel planned, and I hope they make one. This game had a lot of speedbumps and problems, but it wasnt a bust as far as im concerned. more mass effect is good. For what its worth though, Primus was just a rehashed-recoloring of the same model as the Cardinal. I dont think Primus was supposed to be a superior to the Archon, but it makes me question that post ending scene on whether it was genuinely supposed to imply a sequel, or just a way of explaining why the kett are still active post game. judging by a lot of other actions though, I think a sequel is planned, I just hope they'll weather the shitstorm of rage to make another game, and they'll no doubt focus on improving the setbacks next time around.
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Post by jamiecotc on Mar 27, 2017 4:49:06 GMT
I have mixed feelings about the ending. The final was great w/ all the factions pitching in. A Dyson sphere? So glad I didn't get spoiled on that, as a science geek, that really blew me away. A lot of crazy combat, switching from one profile to the next was just a joy. I have one caveat. I find the Kett uninspired and the Archon was a total bore. Visually, then final cinematic was what I wished ME3 ending had been.
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Post by Ianamus on Mar 27, 2017 5:18:20 GMT
I really liked the ending. It was very reminiscent of ME1, in a good way. Huge DLC bait with the quarian ark though. I'm not complaining, if they deliver.
But what was up with that human woman with a quarian name? That was... very odd. Were those the three fan voice actors?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 27, 2017 5:28:27 GMT
I really liked the ending. It was very reminiscent of ME1, in a good way. Huge DLC bait with the quarian ark though. I'm not complaining, if they deliver. But what was up with that human woman with a quarian name? That was... very odd. Were those the three fan voice actors? Her godparents are quarians and grew up in the Flotilla so she took some of their culture.
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Post by aionis on Mar 27, 2017 5:33:56 GMT
All I want is that meridian DLC tbqh
Oh and more planets to explore looking forward to seeing some drell hopefully a drell crewmate for the next game
Also it seems that cerberus may surface when everything with meridian and finding homeworlds settle.
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Post by ladiesman777 on Mar 27, 2017 5:50:33 GMT
Okay I finally beat it. 5+ Hours each day and wanting to do many sidequests in my first playthrough b4 the end. Fem Ryder, quick Peebee sex then Vetra romance, funny and smart personality. Good at all skills and N7 pathfinder armor for unique look.
Combat was good, enemys, unique skills. But things I hate are the quests that require you to visit multiple planets or scan in many system orbits. I would wait for a planet to have me need to go there for parts in 7+ sidequests just so I could go to planets efficently.
Asari ark mission I exposed the current pathfinder to get a new one. She should of helped her friend and been honest n not cover it up. Turian ark mission was so stupid n short. Thought it would be a horror mission but nope, just a quick stroll. And the Turian guy didnt even want to be the new pathfinder and was so upset that his boyfriend died I just said fine if you dont even want it I wont force you. Doesnt even show the new eventual Turian pathfinder, just shows the guy that noped out drunk on Kadara.
Which leads to Dunn dying somehow which is dumb. Was cool to drive Nomad on Meridian but short, reminded me of Illos ME1. Then just tons n tons of enemys. Final fight was kinda contrived. Hold off and defend 2 terminals while you fight everything and a Architect. No boss lifebar or anything, didnt even try to shoot Mr.Archon even though he was hooked up dangling and in control of the place. Wish he had a shield or something you take down and then shoot him. When he dies we dont even go up to him and stomp his face, lame. Primus or whatever his name is that was Archons second n command looks angry n will finally get his in a dlc. I refused his offer in that dissent quest n hope he dies.
Guess the humans have a shield world now. Maybe they will combine it with the Nexus to make a super Citadel. Dunno how I feel about a Andromeda 2 now, feels so weird and I miss the Milky way
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2017 6:24:47 GMT
I really liked the ending. It was very reminiscent of ME1, in a good way. Huge DLC bait with the quarian ark though. I'm not complaining, if they deliver. But what was up with that human woman with a quarian name? That was... very odd. Were those the three fan voice actors? If you talk to her further when revisiting Meridian she has some details on that. You can talk to everyone once more if you go back to Meridian and they will have new things to say.
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Post by Croatsky on Mar 27, 2017 9:00:25 GMT
I really liked the ending. It was very reminiscent of ME1, in a good way. Huge DLC bait with the quarian ark though. I'm not complaining, if they deliver. But what was up with that human woman with a quarian name? That was... very odd. Were those the three fan voice actors? If you talk to her further when revisiting Meridian she has some details on that. You can talk to everyone once more if you go back to Meridian and they will have new things to say. I have to say, I really love the epilogue stuff we get. Just amazing.
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Post by linksocarina on Mar 27, 2017 13:47:53 GMT
Ended on a good note for sure, tying up most of the adventures of this game quite well.
Have a lot of unanswered questions going forward, namely the Primus as a major antagonist, the murder of Jien Garsen, the Quarian Ark, and more.
BioWare is setting up future games and DLC for this one rather deftly.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2017 14:17:43 GMT
The most important thing for me with the ending was just getting to talk to everyone and get that sense of accomplishment. Bioware hasn't had an ending like that in the original game since Dragon Age Origins. Maass Effect just ends, ME2 on a cliffhanger and lets not talk about ME3. Dragon Age II rushed ending never finished, Inquisition paid ending with Trespasser. This has an actual ending, while having enough things going for it to get a sequel.
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Post by themikefest on Mar 27, 2017 15:49:28 GMT
Finished my first playthrough a few hours ago.
Ending? Yeah. Sure. Why not? Whatever. Overkill on fighting the robots to stop the archon villian. Why didn't archon take the Nexus? That's what I would have done. Or better yet, destroy the Nexus while flying away with the Hyperian? That would be awesome. Just like it would've been awesome if Harbinger fired at the Normandy during the what-the-crap evac scene.
The epilogue stuff was alright.
I give it a 6/10.
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Mar 27, 2017 16:44:49 GMT
So, just finished it. The whole part leading up to the Archon's location was pretty darn cool. It was nice seeing everyone I helped assisting me with the assault. When the soundtrack kicks in, it's even cooler.
Now, the Archon boss fight was a letdown... because there was no boss fight. And it's a shame since Bioware seemed to have learned how to make a boss fight with this game.
I really did the montage with the "A Trail Of Hope" in the background. The theme has gotten stuck in my mind. It was such a different hopeful ending in contrast to the trilogy. I enjoyed it. The negative is that it ended to quickly.
Credits - mid credits aside, I'm eager for more Mass Effect in Andromeda, and definitely more Ryder. Great game in my books, not perfect, but I enjoyed my time with it. Feels good to be back.
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Post by dannybates on Mar 27, 2017 17:30:21 GMT
Copy and pasted from someone else however I think it's a pretty interesting take on who the benefactor could be.
"I think the "Secret Benefactors" will turn out to be the KETT... Remember what Gian Garson said before she was killed. She started to feel that the transporting of 100,000 Humans as part of the Andromeda Initiative was something very sinister on part of the Benefactors. Cerberus would merely be doing this to save the human race from the impending Genocide of the Reapers. No Cerberus plan could warrant such foreboding and concern for the benefactor's plans in Andromeda. Alec Ryder (from one of his final logs) also says he fears for the true reason behind the benefactor's motives. And bear in mind that both Alec & Jian were already aware of the Reaper threat prior to leaving the Milky Way.
Also, bear in mind that by the time that Gian Garson was assassinated, the illusive man and Cerberus would have been long destroyed from the ending events of Mass effect 3. However, The Kett would be the likely race with the most sinister reasons to want to ship a large number of the most sentient Milky Way races directly to them in the Andromeda Galaxy (to "Exalt" them - meaning to add their genetics to the to the Kett race to make themselves stronger - much like they are doing in Andromeda with the Angara - and have done with thousands of previous races). The reason they may have wanted to speed this process up is because they also found out about the imminent Reaper invasion and devised a way to orchestrate the shipment of the major Milky Way species to them - via the Andromeda Initiative. The Kett clearly have a massive presence across of most of Andromeda, (near the end of the game, you will see that the Archon discusses with one of his Ministers, that there are many "superiors" that are displeased with his progress of Exaltation in the Helius cluster - meaning that he is not by any means near the top of the hierarchy of the Kett race, and that it is much much larger) not just the Helius cluster regions where the game takes place, so their absence at that time doesn't necessarily reflect the fact that they hadn't planned their future presence there.?
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