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Post by Treacherous J Slither on Mar 25, 2017 2:08:09 GMT
I bet you have trouble distinguishing the animals from the aliens too, OP. Nope. Not even a little bit.
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Post by Treacherous J Slither on Mar 25, 2017 2:11:51 GMT
IIRC, all the asari in the trilogy had Liara's face when they were not that important. It seems we've just hit another level. No they didn't. Play through ME2 again and pay closer attention to every asari you see. Every. Single. One.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2017 2:13:52 GMT
IIRC, all the asari in the trilogy had Liara's face when they were not that important. It seems we've just hit another level. No they didn't. Play through ME2 again and pay closer attention to every asari you see. Every. Single. One. Yes, poor choice of words, my bad. Like I said, If I was able to recall correctly, which I didn't. Not all of them, no.. but... some of them do have her face, oh yes. And I can recall that in ME3, like I posted. But that wasn't a big deal for me. Human npcs in the trilogy seems to have been made using the CC as well, and most turians have Garrus's face (not all of them, sure). Or salarians, or krogan (Wrex is reused for a lot of krogan, except for his scars) or quarians (even the admirals). Their textures are the only change. Saren was unique, Tali, Grunt, Mordin, Legion, and most of our squad. Also I think Feron was a retexture of Thane (don't really remember). Kolyat was a little different. However, seeing this game, in 2017, with pretty important asari characters sharing the same facial features, yes, it's disappointing.
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Post by The Twilight God on Mar 25, 2017 8:39:54 GMT
I have to wonder... What were they doing in those 5 years? That's plenty of time to develop a game, even with a new engine. They couldn't even be bothered to cut and paste older face models? How long can it really take to throw together face models? Clearly they threw together the CC defaults in like 1 minute. Five years and in all that time you couldn't even convert these over. s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/9e/75/b9/9e75b95a5fce93bdbfa3ba2737bda396.jpgThat would be lazy. Andromeda sounds like it's beyond lazy.
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Post by ryerye17 on Mar 25, 2017 8:57:54 GMT
Not just same face. Same bodies too! Matriarchs are supposed to have big breasts but Ishara has the same body model as any non-Peebee Asari.
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Post by smellycatbutts on Mar 25, 2017 9:48:23 GMT
I always thought most of the aliens looked the same. Isn't there something in game that says humans are special bc they're so diverse? Personally, I'd rather be practically immortal like the asari, but I do wonder how the angaaran, asari, etc can tell each other apart--face paint?
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Post by Ahriman on Mar 25, 2017 11:04:05 GMT
It bugs me out, because this problem shouldn't even be there. They have human faces, so was it that hard to adapt CC for asari and then put one guy to mess with their faces for a day?
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Post by boyaki on Mar 25, 2017 11:34:05 GMT
I don't think it's that big of a deal honestly, Witcher 3 reused the same faces quite a bit. They did. They also did a good job making them look different by using different costumes, makeup, and hairstyles, and colors. Also, all of those reused faces were very attractive. Not really, they did not have different costumes, etc...that is one of the few weak points. They had either complete different skin or the exact same one. They had litteral clones. Look for the guy wearing green clothes and a red hat, he appears in 6 places during the cutscene and he is not the only one appearing several time in that cutscene. Funny considering the scene is about creatures who can copy other people.
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Post by glitch89 on Mar 25, 2017 11:53:07 GMT
Nope for the most part they all look the same. I think probably two different face models/designs were use and that's it.
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Post by geoffreyomega on Mar 25, 2017 11:53:09 GMT
It's always been the case in every game, the difference being, they didn't have the face of one of the main character. Liara was singular and so was Samara. They were then two differents face models for every hundred asari which with unique skin could either give Matriarch, very young Asari, soldier badass looking etc. The point being, they didn't all have Samara's head which would have felt weird because she's in your team and you expect her to look singular.
They made the mistake in Mass Effect andromeda to have all the Asari's face based on Lexi. So whenever you see an Asari, your brain can't help to notice how weird it feels. If it was just a generic face that neither pebee nor Lexi had, it would have been fine, but since you're constantly reminded that all Asari looks like Lexi, it feels very disturbing, especially when they went really soft with Asari's tattoos and colors in this one.
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Post by The Arbiter on Mar 25, 2017 11:59:48 GMT
They did. They also did a good job making them look different by using different costumes, makeup, and hairstyles, and colors. Also, all of those reused faces were very attractive. Not really, they did not have different costumes, etc...that is one of the few weak points. They had either complete different skin or the exact same one. They had litteral clones. Look for the guy wearing green clothes and a red hat, he appears in 6 places during the cutscene and he is not the only one appearing several time in that cutscene. Funny considering the scene is about creatures who can copy other people. What settings did he has this on? If you crank up the NPC setting it will spawn more unique npc kinda like in GTA V
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Post by auu on Mar 25, 2017 12:11:50 GMT
Now that you mentioned it...when I first started the game I was confused why I couldn't talk to Lexi...it wasn't Lexi.
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Post by Treacherous J Slither on Mar 25, 2017 15:34:42 GMT
They did. They also did a good job making them look different by using different costumes, makeup, and hairstyles, and colors. Also, all of those reused faces were very attractive. Not really, they did not have different costumes, etc...that is one of the few weak points. They had either complete different skin or the exact same one. They had litteral clones. Look for the guy wearing green clothes and a red hat, he appears in 6 places during the cutscene and he is not the only one appearing several time in that cutscene. Funny considering the scene is about creatures who can copy other people. I've seen beggars, whores, drunks, nobles, peasants, soldiers, and drunks share faces and costumes and there are multiple costumes for each of these. Of course there are clones like the video demonstrates but not everyone in that costume will have that face or share the same colors.
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Post by The Twilight God on Mar 25, 2017 16:02:03 GMT
It's always been the case in every game, the difference being, they didn't have the face of one of the main character. Liara was singular and so was Samara. They were then two differents face models for every hundred asari which with unique skin could either give Matriarch, very young Asari, soldier badass looking etc. The point being, they didn't all have Samara's head which would have felt weird because she's in your team and you expect her to look singular. They made the mistake in Mass Effect andromeda to have all the Asari's face based on Lexi. So whenever you see an Asari, your brain can't help to notice how weird it feels. If it was just a generic face that neither pebee nor Lexi had, it would have been fine, but since you're constantly reminded that all Asari looks like Lexi, it feels very disturbing, especially when they went really soft with Asari's tattoos and colors in this one. There were multiple asari faces in the original trilogy. Asari are basically human in terms of design. You can get away with having the same face and different paintjobs with salarians, turians, krogan and other "true aliens", but not with near-humans like asari or unmasked quarians. No, it would not be acceptable if they used a different face than Lexi's. It would be very noticeable if every single asari you interacted with had the same base model. We're not just talking background dressing characters that are just there to make the place look populated, but NPCs you actually interact with.
Imagine if Emily Wong, Chloe Michel, Khalisah al-Jilani, Gianna Parisini and Mako Matsuo all had the same face with a skin and hairstyle/color swapped about. And that includes every female character either just walking around or with sidequest interactions on Noveria, The Citadel and Feros all sharing that single face model as well.
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Post by Iakus on Mar 25, 2017 16:10:06 GMT
Not just same face. Same bodies too! Matriarchs are supposed to have big breasts but Ishara has the same body model as any non-Peebee Asari. I think that was largely a joke based on Benezia and Samara's...assets...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2017 18:49:49 GMT
I will be crucified for this, but I was never fond of the Asari design, even in the original games. They're just a "hot blue girl" race. I dunno. They weren't all that varied to begin with, but no they didn't have the same faces at least. It would have been cool to see vastly different skin colors. I know some might be more light blue or blue green than others - but still. Also, couldn't their tentacle-heads have more variation? Different shapes, sizes, I dunno. There has to be something else.
Also... an all female race. lol. I dunno. That setup always felt way too "Amazon women on the moon" to me. Haha - "...oh it's an all female race, they don't need males." And there really was no all male race that reproduced on its own - was there?
I haven't played ME:A yet, but people are saying the Asari all look the same in the face now. That's a shame.
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Post by maximusarael020 on Mar 25, 2017 19:06:34 GMT
Would someone who is good with in-game captures and whatnot get some photos to compare? You all might be right, but I swear the Asari I have seen have different faces.
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Post by panzerwzh on Mar 25, 2017 19:12:14 GMT
Compared to human NPCs, Asari NPCs are much more acceptable.
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Post by aionis on Mar 25, 2017 20:05:56 GMT
yeah, this actually really bugged me to be honest.
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Post by wijse on Mar 26, 2017 0:19:37 GMT
Dr. Lexi T'Perro's clones finally arrive at the Nexus
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Post by sky on Mar 26, 2017 0:31:25 GMT
I don't think it's that big of a deal honestly, Witcher 3 reused the same faces quite a bit. They did. They also did a good job making them look different by using different costumes, makeup, and hairstyles, and colors. Also, all of those reused faces were very attractive. Half the traders and peasants in the game looked like this guy
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Post by Treacherous J Slither on Mar 26, 2017 0:38:31 GMT
They did. They also did a good job making them look different by using different costumes, makeup, and hairstyles, and colors. Also, all of those reused faces were very attractive. Half the traders and peasants in the game looked like this guy I found the women attractive. Not the men lol
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Post by wijse on Mar 26, 2017 1:09:54 GMT
The problem here is that every major and minor asari npc have the exact same face. The Asari Pathfinder Sarissa/Vederia has the same face as Lexi T'Parro. The only unique face is the face of Peebee.
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