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Post by cotheer on Mar 24, 2017 11:57:55 GMT
I don't hate/dislike the game, i just hate/dislike some aspects of it. -Lack of polish in almost every aspect of the game (facial animations are the worst offender) -Lackluster CC (i mean, this forum's CC has more variety ffs) -Lack of emotions in conversations like when they tell you your father died and your "choices" are: "He died a hero" and "I didn't know him", just -what the actual fuck -Asari all look the same (and they're all ugly tbf), except for Peebee -To use any biotic you need to draw your weapons first (personal pet-peewe) -Scanning planets and accompanying animation(s), do i need to say more ("look, we found some cool satellite, oh it's 50 iron") -...and so on I dunno, there is something about the game that's just not THAT engaging, but i don't hate it. Also, i don't thinks it's fair to blame it all on EA this time, because they said they were willing to give ME:A another 5 months of development if needed.
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Post by Liara on Mar 24, 2017 12:00:20 GMT
I miss them all so much, i feel like crying
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Post by Liara on Mar 24, 2017 12:09:22 GMT
-Asari all look the same (and they're all ugly tbf), except for Peebee Peebee is not butt ugly? ahahahahaah
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Post by cotheer on Mar 24, 2017 12:16:17 GMT
-Asari all look the same (and they're all ugly tbf), except for Peebee Peebee is not butt ugly? ahahahahaah She is, but compared to the rest of them, not so much, just my opinion.
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Post by Reznore on Mar 24, 2017 12:18:33 GMT
I don't mind cheesy dialogue, I can live with "my face is tired" just fine...Problem is world building and in Andromeda imho , it's plain bad. Story spoilers There's first the Initiative who went to Andromeda, just because. The reason you're given is that Jill something was a visionary and excentric, but anyway it doesn't matter because as far as I know she's dead. After asking for the 100th time "Why do you came to Andromeda" to random npcs , I can sum up by "yeah well you know ...I felt like it". Then it turns out this big project randomly took whoever wanted to be part of it. There's no talk of financial stuff, or being extremely hard to be part of ...npcs says "it wasn't like this on the brochure".
Then there is some mutinity, it make sense but you end up with a pirate faction who live in a place that looks exactly like the slums back in the Milky Way. The ex security chief of Andromeda sounds like your typical annoying gang leader but that lady was a high profile of the AI a bit more than a year ago ...Besides it's hard to feel the desperation when she already build a small town with bars and dancers and the likes.
Then there's Andromeda itself. The Angara are boring. They are "emotional", well if you say so...At one point I was talking with one, the lady taking care of the museum, and it just occurs to me how very human like they were and nothing in there felt alien at all.
They have close to zero interesting lore. The remnants ? They don't know much about those. Their own pasts they don't know about this either. The excuse is the ketts destroyed everything ...but they didn't because they still have their Aya city and they still have a foothold on their planet of origin...and oral history is still a thing and the ketts have just been here for 80 years ! In only one generation the Angara forget everything about their past somehow. This is bad writing.
The remnants...basically beyond the terraforming no one care much, you decipher some glyph and language but only use those in puzzle and no one tries to understand who builds the vaults and why they are gone. That's not interesting of course.
The ketts , they are somewhat of a cult like alien race interested in DNA...so they farm the Angara. Who let me remind you can't even be bothered to remember their own history after a generation of warfare, so clearly not the brightest bunch.And they never really figured out the Remnants either.
But of course the humans did with the genius AI who can do everything ...but mostly it's Sudoko puzzles.
So yes I stopped playing because I find nothing interesting in there at all.
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Post by vonuber on Mar 24, 2017 12:28:52 GMT
I miss them all so much, i feel like crying You are either 6 years old or this is poor trolling, in which case I'll bump you up to 8.
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Post by The Arbiter on Mar 24, 2017 12:29:01 GMT
your opinion is shite then That's the idea. Congrats for getting there. Welcome. Let us all now delete the forums since everyone's opinion is shite
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Post by cooldude on Mar 24, 2017 12:33:51 GMT
I think ME:A is a decent game, but in all likelihood I probably will not finish it. it doesn't really have that hold on me that I need to finish a game. The only mass Effect game I was able to play all the way through was Mass Effect 1, and I played and beat that one multiple times; It's the same with the Dragon Age games. i played and beat Origins multiple times, but could not bring myself to complete the others once. I think that is in large part due to the fact these newer titles are becoming busy work.
In Mass Effect 1, you didn't need to mine for resources to craft gear. You just needed to simply play the game and level up which increased the amount of credits and improved loot drops; gearing was a no issue. In Origins, you just needed to play the game and sell your loot that you didn't want, and you could augment your weapons and armor, because the dwarf vendors updated their stuff based on your level, and usually had everything you needed to stay up to date on your gear.; there was zero busy work. I cannot say that about Mass Effect Andromeda.
In Mass Effect Andromeda, you need to go to planets and mine resources if you want to augment your gear or craft new gear rather than just doing side quests to get money and simply buy whatever you want don't; it's busy work.
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Post by heathenoxman on Mar 24, 2017 13:07:58 GMT
I'm an adult and I like it. Go figure. But are you mature? It sounds like you are missing/missed something in your life, and the amatureish cheesy-teen-awkward writing somehow fulfills something for you. I'm not saying that's bad or anything, I'm saying that's not the type of writing I expect from bioware. If I wanted this kind of "experience", there is fanfiction (which is sometimes way better, and it's free). Hhhmmm.... It's a fucking videogame. So far, I like it, mostly, because I get a nice Star Trek-y vibe from the whole exploration thing. Don't care if others don't like it, but I don't feel the need to go around insulting people who disagree with me, or acting like my subjective opinions are objective facts. And, I can assure you, I'm a mature adult. Dude who wrote the OP hated it, and that's cool. Some people love it. Ditto. Crap like this reminds me why, as I get older, I'm drawing further and further away from internet "fandoms." Too much fighting over petty nonsense.
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Post by goishen on Mar 24, 2017 13:09:25 GMT
It's like someone at BioWare (or rather multiple someone's) likes filling out paper work. Just ho humming the day away, "Just sitting here filling out these insurance forms! Oh, and then I've got the doctor's form next! And the dentist form after that!" Just humming along.
Happy as a lark. I've gotta theory. People who haven't had to work in the real world... Can't write shit. By "In the real world" I mean at a low wage job or a minimum skill job. Because those jobs are simply the hardest, because you're consistently put to the test with other people.
If you've been sheltered all your life, then it's gonna show. And I think that's the case in Andromeda. They've been told that their writing is good, and it might be from a technical standpoint (IE, they know where to put commas and periods), but it's thirteen year old fan fiction for everybody else.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2017 13:11:06 GMT
I don't mind cheesy dialogue, I can live with "my face is tired" just fine...Problem is world building and in Andromeda imho , it's plain bad. Story spoilers There's first the Initiative who went to Andromeda, just because. The reason you're given is that Jill something was a visionary and excentric, but anyway it doesn't matter because as far as I know she's dead. After asking for the 100th time "Why do you came to Andromeda" to random npcs , I can sum up by "yeah well you know ...I felt like it". Then it turns out this big project randomly took whoever wanted to be part of it. There's no talk of financial stuff, or being extremely hard to be part of ...npcs says "it wasn't like this on the brochure".
Then there is some mutinity, it make sense but you end up with a pirate faction who live in a place that looks exactly like the slums back in the Milky Way. The ex security chief of Andromeda sounds like your typical annoying gang leader but that lady was a high profile of the AI a bit more than a year ago ...Besides it's hard to feel the desperation when she already build a small town with bars and dancers and the likes.
Then there's Andromeda itself. The Angara are boring. They are "emotional", well if you say so...At one point I was talking with one, the lady taking care of the museum, and it just occurs to me how very human like they were and nothing in there felt alien at all.
They have close to zero interesting lore. The remnants ? They don't know much about those. Their own pasts they don't know about this either. The excuse is the ketts destroyed everything ...but they didn't because they still have their Aya city and they still have a foothold on their planet of origin...and oral history is still a thing and the ketts have just been here for 80 years ! In only one generation the Angara forget everything about their past somehow. This is bad writing.
The remnants...basically beyond the terraforming no one care much, you decipher some glyph and language but only use those in puzzle and no one tries to understand who builds the vaults and why they are gone. That's not interesting of course.
The ketts , they are somewhat of a cult like alien race interested in DNA...so they farm the Angara. Who let me remind you can't even be bothered to remember their own history after a generation of warfare, so clearly not the brightest bunch.And they never really figured out the Remnants either.
But of course the humans did with the genius AI who can do everything ...but mostly it's Sudoko puzzles.
So yes I stopped playing because I find nothing interesting in there at all.
I actually think the world building is the main strength of the game, which is weird considering its Bioware. The weak link is the main story and some of the characters, not companions, but "I can't believe my face is that tired Addison". Then again i find all the things they added Interesting, and there is some nice exploration and questing going on. Way better than Inquisition and it retains the Mass Effect feel for me. A shame that you didn't get into it, are you going for a refund?
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 24, 2017 13:15:59 GMT
I'm an adult and I like it. Go figure. But are you mature? It sounds like you are missing/missed something in your life, and the amatureish cheesy-teen-awkward writing somehow fulfills something for you. I'm not saying that's bad or anything, I'm saying that's not the type of writing I expect from bioware. If I wanted this kind of "experience", there is fanfiction (which is sometimes way better, and it's free). "It's not bad or anything....but yeah it's pretty bad, and your life is empty and sad." ~translation
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 24, 2017 13:19:17 GMT
I hate the fact that there is not a single attractive character in the game. SJW assholes, feminists, deviant homosexuals and minorities pressured Bioware into making ridiculous looking characters. Are there any normal white people in the game? (no) Animations are ridiculous and look about ~20% finished. Dialogs written by 16 year olds. Story line is dumb as a pile of rocks. Deviant homosexuals and minorities, clearly these are truly the scourge of this game. Wew lad.
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Post by vilegrim on Mar 24, 2017 13:27:30 GMT
I hate the fact that there is not a single attractive character in the game. SJW assholes, feminists, deviant homosexuals and minorities pressured Bioware into making ridiculous looking characters. Are there any normal white people in the game? (no) Animations are ridiculous and look about ~20% finished. Dialogs written by 16 year olds. Story line is dumb as a pile of rocks. I suppose they could have listened to MRAs and evangelicals and made it about raping 12 year olds
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Post by vilegrim on Mar 24, 2017 13:35:48 GMT
.Firefly et al. Worked because of the charisma and passion of the leads, as Ryder shows 0 passion and has the charisma of a bored supply teacher, that doesn't occur here, where is the rage? The idealism? The brutality? The callousness? The intensity? NONE if those things show up, and because they do not, because of this lack of urgency and passion, I just can't care, even in events where violent rage is an understandable response you can't show it only either a version of 'professionalism' that is anything but or an 'emotional response' that is never angry, or idealistic but stays in this narrow band of 'mild interest' or 'slight frustration' It may have been the dialogue options you've been selecting because so far, my Ryder has been pretty consistently emotive. . hmm giving examples would be spolerific, lets just say picked emotional responses and they are lacking, like Capt America boring, little boy scout without any if Sheps bite, rage, hate and charismatic delivery
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Post by joglee on Mar 24, 2017 13:40:46 GMT
Were you expecting an outpouring of support? Actually what I expected was well thought out posts to meet my own. Not garbage posts of a single sentence of LOL DIDN'T READ XXDDDD!!!!!! No offense meant, but you joined this site with the sole purpose of **** posting on this game. This thread is literally the only place you seem to post.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2017 13:50:52 GMT
I'm an adult and I like it. Go figure. But are you mature? It sounds like you are missing/missed something in your life, and the amatureish cheesy-teen-awkward writing somehow fulfills something for you. I'm not saying that's bad or anything, I'm saying that's not the type of writing I expect from bioware. If I wanted this kind of "experience", there is fanfiction (which is sometimes way better, and it's free). Some of the writing at Bioware has always struck me as immature. That's one of their drawbacks to me.
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Post by cmdshep on Mar 24, 2017 14:00:36 GMT
My opinion is that this game is not close to being as good as the previous games. ME:A is okay, nothing more, nothing less. It's not as bad as many of the user reviews on metacritics are saying, but it's not even close of being a 8,9 or 10 as some people on this forum is claiming (my opinion). I don't agree with the user reviews giving the game a 2 or 3 out of 10, but I actually have a bigger understanding for their thoughts than the people giving the game a 9 or 10. We are talking about a game that had five years of developing time. They didn't have to build a franchise from scratch. They had a 40 million dollar budget. They had a solid foundation, but instead of making it stronger, they made some cracks in it. But, I'm not a hater, so I can admit that the combat is fun, the planets are really beautiful and the multiplayer is fun. But this is not enough for me. I will finish it, because the game has it moments. But I will problably not start a new save as I did in the previous games. I will problably play something else after I'm done with my first playthrough.
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Post by primalrose on Mar 24, 2017 14:01:29 GMT
18 hours in and getting that Inquisition vibe. A bit too much quantity over quality problem. The focus on exploration is all good and well, but the game really could've done better with a tighter storyline from the beginning and some more epic soundtracks to kick in the epicness. I've just met Jaal and its only now I feel interested in the storyline. Of course...no need to even mention those animations.
All and all I'm sure I'll at least enjoy one playthrough.
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Post by keldaur on Mar 24, 2017 14:20:27 GMT
I enjoy it, but sure as hell it has a lot of issues, so i can understand why for some(or maybe a lot of people) it might scale the balance towards dissappointment rather than enjoyment. To each their own.
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Post by mordrek on Mar 24, 2017 14:21:19 GMT
The entire beginning story is such an epic failure, I can't believe it was published. The game gets better, but dear god the beginning is so incredibly bad. For anyone who's had a close friend or family member die... the complete lack of emotion, and I don't give a shit attitude displayed in the game is unforgivable. These people are supposed to be professional writers. Shame on you. i don't know where you are getting this no emotion from. My Ryder has gotten to show off emotion at that particular event numerous times... Maybe you just did not pick the right dialog options? lol, Do you know what Ryder says? This is the exact quote, you have two options but I assume you didn't go douche bag and say I never knew my dad. "He made the ultimate sacrifice, he got the team out of danger, we all owe him for that." Then your character says, "What are we doing in SAM Node?" One of the most important people in your life dies, and you give them a single sentence. And now it's back to business!
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Post by stupidmaniac on Mar 24, 2017 14:46:29 GMT
I never have high expectations for video games anymore. I've been burned out by so many that I even stopped preordering after Rome 2 because of how much of a mess that game was. It needs to be said that I haven't played DA:I barely (and I mean that, I think 2-3 hours?) to see similarities between that and ME:A.
I've been doing research about ME:A and more and more it reminded me of Mass Effect 1. Just a much better version of the game which I do believe I got from it. I'm enjoying the hell out of the game, I think the pace of it is solid, I enjoy the characters and the story so far. I felt like I was on a new journey at the start of the game and it has kept me engaged. Back this up with good combat and good main character customization and this game has me hooked. However, there are things that I just have to ask me myself "why did Bioware choose to do this?" For example;
1 - No manual save during priority missions. I'm not sure who thought this would be a good idea, but this is just a really bad concept that doesn't make any sense. I was so angry during a certain part of the game (I don't want to list spoilers) and because I chose to explore and die (playing insanity) I was sent back nearly 20 minutes? I feel punished as a player at such a hard difficulty that I feel discouraged to explore because of time wasters like this. Please change this ASAP. Just to add, why isn't there a quick save? Why?
2 - No squad customization. I feel that this is a big blow for the game that has such a large crafting system. I really love the similarities with load outs, as it again, has the ME:1 elements to it, which is fantastic in allowing me to craft and research. However, why can't I make equipment for my squad mates? This is an RPG, picking skills for my squads and not their equipment to me is just silly. I never liked this in ME:2 and I don't like it in ME:A. The crafting system is far too bloated for just 1 character. Why go to all of this effort if it's just for 1 person? It's just a waste of time that could have been spent on other things.
I'm not going to go into the CC or face animations. Answer is I could care less. Any game that involves having the main character with a voice makes me want to be their default look.
There are some good things that I just love, the game size. I enjoy MASSIVE games with so much to do and I enjoy feeling overwhelmed. I like the new conversation wheel. I like it that when I explore, it get's added into conversations. There are good things that I seriously like about this. However, I do remain a bit concerned as fans that are unhappy have clearly mentioned their dislikes in DA:I and to see these occurring again makes me concerned if Bioware is listening or not.
Overall I'm enjoying this game a lot.
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Post by heathenoxman on Mar 24, 2017 14:47:32 GMT
It's like someone at BioWare (or rather multiple someone's) likes filling out paper work. Just ho humming the day away, "Just sitting here filling out these insurance forms! Oh, and then I've got the doctor's form next! And the dentist form after that!" Just humming along. Happy as a lark. I've gotta theory. People who haven't had to work in the real world... Can't write shit. By "In the real world" I mean at a low wage job or a minimum skill job. Because those jobs are simply the hardest, because you're consistently put to the test with other people. If you've been sheltered all your life, then it's gonna show. And I think that's the case in Andromeda. They've been told that their writing is good, and it might be from a technical standpoint (IE, they know where to put commas and periods), but it's thirteen year old fan fiction for everybody else. Back at the old old BW forum, when the Devs still actually participated, they pretty much admitted they just follow "The Hero's Journey" and paint in the numbers. It's one of the reasons why I don't exactly get it when people act like the MET was some sort of masterpiece. It was a fun, cheese-y, space opera....nothing more.
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Post by Elsariel on Mar 24, 2017 14:53:00 GMT
i don't know where you are getting this no emotion from. My Ryder has gotten to show off emotion at that particular event numerous times... Maybe you just did not pick the right dialog options? lol, Do you know what Ryder says? This is the exact quote, you have two options but I assume you didn't go douche bag and say I never knew my dad. "He made the ultimate sacrifice, he got the team out of danger, we all owe him for that." Then your character says, "What are we doing in SAM Node?" One of the most important people in your life dies, and you give them a single sentence. And now it's back to business! Yeah, I'm loving the game overall but that whole conversation gave me serious DA2 flashbacks from the beginning where one of the twins die. It was really bad. Thankfully, you can expound on how you feel later but by then the moment is gone.
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Post by Fogg on Mar 24, 2017 15:02:58 GMT
The Angaran monitors use human numbers
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